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President of Iran says Israel should be moved to Europe.....
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on December 18, 2005, 01:19:58 PM ---most Jews are descendants of those who were exiled from this land,
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Khazars, Edomites, Ethiopians, Arabs in Yemen, Persians, etc... are you gonna deny and try to argue historic facts?
Can you see the difference between what you said and what I'm presenting? Yours is a conclusion you have reached based on your assumptions, limited knowledge, and common sense (which you obviously lack)... mine = FACT. If you don't believe me, do your own reseach. I'll even give you the name of the king under which the Khazars converted... Bulan. Next time don't step to a boss, you chump.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 19, 2005, 11:28:43 AM ---It was a threat to the indigenous population, today known as Palestinians. You can't make an argument saying "all Arabs are the same" and that these people had so many countries to go to.
Also, if you claim that all Jews are descendants of the same Jews who were sent into exile, then prove it.
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Semite-Jews are, meaning that most Jews are. According to the Halacha a person whose mother is Jewish is considered as Jewish.I'm saying that there were Arab states by the time Israel was created, meaning the Arab Nation's existence didn't depend on Zionism or on sovereignty over Eretz Yisrael in anyway,Palestinian Arab peasants are part of the Arab Nation and they never minded overlords(Life under colonization for centuries without opposition, Life as servants of wealthier Arabs), suddenly Zionism comes and they start seeking national identity in resistance of Zionism(a paradox of it's own- how can you both seek Palestinian self determination and Arab Unity at the same time?! Early Leader of the Palestinian Arabs recognizes the Zionist movement as a companion to their national movement before resistance erupts ) even though many Zionists support such ideas as a binational state and of two sovereign states .
Zionism appeared as a result of persecution of Jews.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on December 19, 2005, 12:37:16 PM ---Semite-Jews are, meaning that most Jews are.
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Gotcha. Check the statistics on what proportion of Jews are "Semite-Jews"... and what proportion are Ashkenazi. :) According to the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs... about 80% of the world's Jews are Ashkenazi... LOL I wonder how you're gonna try to blame this one on Palestinian leadership.
"Palestinian Arab peasants are part of the Arab Nation and they never minded overlords(Life under colonization for centuries without opposition, Life as servants of wealthier Arabs)"
Do your research on the mandates. The whole point was to create new states... Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and Palestine. At first the Arabs of the Palestine mandate wanted to allign themselves with Greater Syria, but once Syria was established, and the increase in Zionist terrorists/colonizers... created a new Palestinian nationalism. What the fuck does it even matter if they never minded overlords before? They were living under the Ottoman Empire.. that's not colonization. Get your definitions straight, dumbfuck. You don't even know what the hell a fact is, and here you are talking about colonization. Servants of wealthier Arabs... again so what? Next time some Palestinian blows up some Jews in a bus, I should say "well Jews shouldn't mind that, they're used to anti-Semitism and persecution... what's the big fuss" ? Seriously, the way you try to justify an injustice is amazing. You're a fucking tool.
"Zionism appeared as a result of persecution of Jews."
Yeah, and you even tried to deny that those Zionists were European... LOLLLL get the fuck outta here
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 19, 2005, 05:12:32 PM ---Gotcha. Check the statistics on what proportion of Jews are "Semite-Jews"... and what proportion are Ashkenazi. :) According to the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs... about 80% of the world's Jews are Ashkenazi...
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LMFAO, truly man, this is one of the most brilliant things you've ever contributed to this debate."Most Jews are Ashkenazi not Semite" ;D Now this is real simple homie, the Semitic group is a racial group-Arabs also belong to this group, Ashkenazi Jews are Semite Jews who have lived in Europe just like there are Arabs nowadays that live in Europe and in the USA, this does not stop them from being semites...:) There's a diff between the racial group and the geographic location, there are blacks that don't live in Africa as you might've heared. :)
Second, the fact these people have never before shown national identity under all kinds of occupations(a number of Empries ruled this land as you know) proves that their nationalism was eventually used merely as a tool to remove the Jews from the land and not to provide prosperity to the indigenous population, it resulted in harming this population.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on December 20, 2005, 07:28:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 19, 2005, 05:12:32 PM ---Gotcha. Check the statistics on what proportion of Jews are "Semite-Jews"... and what proportion are Ashkenazi. :) According to the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs... about 80% of the world's Jews are Ashkenazi...
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LMFAO, truly man, this is one of the most brilliant things you've ever contributed to this debate."Most Jews are Ashkenazi not Semite" ;D Now this is real simple homie, the Semitic group is a racial group-Arabs also belong to this group, Ashkenazi Jews are Semite Jews who have lived in Europe just like there are Arabs nowadays that live in Europe and in the USA, this does not stop them from being semites...:) There's a diff between the racial group and the geographic location, there are blacks that don't live in Africa as you might've heared. :)
Second, the fact these people have never before shown national identity under all kinds of occupations(a number of Empries ruled this land as you know) proves that their nationalism was eventually used merely as a tool to remove the Jews from the land and not to provide prosperity to the indigenous population, it resulted in harming this population.
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Smart one, you missed the whole point... there is no proof that those Ashkenazi Jews are all descendants of those who were sent into exile.... however there is evidence of entire populations converting to Judaism since. Get it? You tried to deny that. Go do some research on the Khazars, the Arabs in Yemen, the Ethipians, then come back and apologize to your teacher.
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