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most Jews are descendants of those who were exiled from this land,
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.
It was a threat to the indigenous population, today known as Palestinians. You can't make an argument saying "all Arabs are the same" and that these people had so many countries to go to.Also, if you claim that all Jews are descendants of the same Jews who were sent into exile, then prove it.
Semite-Jews are, meaning that most Jews are.
Gotcha. Check the statistics on what proportion of Jews are "Semite-Jews"... and what proportion are Ashkenazi. According to the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs... about 80% of the world's Jews are Ashkenazi...
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 19, 2005, 05:12:32 PMGotcha. Check the statistics on what proportion of Jews are "Semite-Jews"... and what proportion are Ashkenazi. According to the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs... about 80% of the world's Jews are Ashkenazi... LMFAO, truly man, this is one of the most brilliant things you've ever contributed to this debate."Most Jews are Ashkenazi not Semite" Now this is real simple homie, the Semitic group is a racial group-Arabs also belong to this group, Ashkenazi Jews are Semite Jews who have lived in Europe just like there are Arabs nowadays that live in Europe and in the USA, this does not stop them from being semites... There's a diff between the racial group and the geographic location, there are blacks that don't live in Africa as you might've heared. Second, the fact these people have never before shown national identity under all kinds of occupations(a number of Empries ruled this land as you know) proves that their nationalism was eventually used merely as a tool to remove the Jews from the land and not to provide prosperity to the indigenous population, it resulted in harming this population.
1. lol Ashkenazi Semite Jews are, based on the fact they are Jews,a Jew is not only someone who followes Judasim(especially when there is secularization) but it is also an ethnic origin indication- people who come from Judea(the segregation throughout the centuries made the Jewish people to be the best preserved people), 2. Khazzars (and any other likely to have been converted) aren't semitic...Point 1 contradicts Point 2 because converted around the 8th century... and spread around Europe.... meaning the descendants are today considered Ashkenazi. Point 1 says these people are Semites... Point 2 says they aren't. LOLLLL typical Zionist... doesn't know the info, has been fed bullshit his entire life, and when he tries to argue, gets caught up in his own bullshit and lies.And again, the one who's missing the point is you man because when it comes to Palestinian refugees you seem to disregard the idea of geographic origin by accepting every registered refugee as Palestinian(what is factualy untrue), according to this idea all Arabs should live in the Arab peninsula because that's were they originate from and since other land they possess nowadays was occupied, and I agree, but we're living in the real world.Be it 10 Palestinian refugees, or 1 million... what difference does it make? They're victims of Zionism.P.S Funny how Hitler and other anti-semites(hence the term itself) identified Jews as semites when it served their goals to point out Jews had no place in Europe based on their place of origin(Jewish diaspora) and how nowadays anti-Israeli propagandists disclaim Jewish semitism to serve theirs.Well I'm sorry to not have taken into account the views of people like Hitler... I'll leave that job up to the Zionists who are committing crimes against the Palestinians.
This only showes how grounded this whole Khazzar theory is.You can't trace it, you don't even know how many of them intermixed with Jews- and if they did their children are also descendants of exiled Jews...lol fucked yourself up, you can't bring figures, you're assuming just like you've assumed Palestinians are descendants of Canaanites to establish some sort of claim to the land. The Jewish people is the only people that was persecuted based on the claim it didn't belong anywhere else.
You're right, I can't trace it, nor can I determine how many of them "intermixed" with Jews (Two Jews mixing = intermix?... LOL.. buy yourself a dictionary bitch)....
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 20, 2005, 02:33:55 PM You're right, I can't trace it, nor can I determine how many of them "intermixed" with Jews (Two Jews mixing = intermix?... LOL.. buy yourself a dictionary bitch)....Exactly...so why the fuck mention it if it has no point? Since you don't know I'll let you in on a little fact, a convert to Judasim according to the Halacha is not a Jew but a Gior(from the word Giur-convertion to Judaism) an intermix between a semite Jew and a non semite Gior still makes their offspring a descendant of an exiled Jew, or are you assuming that the original Jews simply died out? lost your point mate p.s Seems like you forgot that article you brought dicussing the Palestinian "Canaanite Origin" among other points that came to reinforce Palestinian entitlement. And if we're basing this on who was where first, Jews were on this land long before Arabs left the Arab peninsula in their conquest in the name of Islam that also didn't exist at the time.
Fact is that a certain proportion of today's Ashkenazi Jews are therefore descendant of the converted Khazars... not those who were exiled. 1+1=2.
3. There is no debate on whether the Khazar population converted to Judaism or not. The only thing that's debated is if Ashkenazi Jews are PRIMARILY descendant of the Khazars.... meaning it is fact that a certain proportion are.... meaning I'm right, you're wrong... as always.
"While these studies also show that some Ashkenazim have non-Jewish, Eastern European ancestors, they contradict claims that the Ashkenazim were primarily descended from Khazars."
Current genetic studies show that "Jewish Y-DNA tends to come from the Middle East, and… studies that take into account mtDNA show that many Jewish populations are related to neighboring non-Jewish groups maternally". While these studies also show that some Ashkenazim have non-Jewish, Eastern European ancestors, they contradict claims that the Ashkenazim were primarily descended from Khazars.
Genetic researches on Ashkenazi Jews don't show any Khazar bloodline
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 21, 2005, 08:30:43 AM"While these studies also show that some Ashkenazim have non-Jewish, Eastern European ancestors, they contradict claims that the Ashkenazim were primarily descended from Khazars."THEY CONTRADICT CLAIMS THAT THEY WERE PRIMARILY DESCENDED FROM KHAZARS... that means that a PROPORTION of them are.It's funny how you're flip-floping man trying to rely on people not noticing how you've stepped on your own toes, you've quoted exactly what reinforces my point. Check out what you said before:Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 20, 2005, 03:05:57 PMFact is that a certain proportion of today's Ashkenazi Jews are therefore descendant of the converted Khazars... not those who were exiled. 1+1=2.Here's what the full quote sayes:QuoteCurrent genetic studies show that "Jewish Y-DNA tends to come from the Middle East, and… studies that take into account mtDNA show that many Jewish populations are related to neighboring non-Jewish groups maternally". While these studies also show that some Ashkenazim have non-Jewish, Eastern European ancestors, they contradict claims that the Ashkenazim were primarily descended from Khazars.Now look what I said:Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on December 21, 2005, 06:37:34 AMGenetic researches on Ashkenazi Jews don't show any Khazar bloodlineCLOWN.This you got right... you are a fucking clown... you don't know the definition of the word fact, and now you don't even know what the fuck the word primarily means... and you're gonna try to step to a boss... you're not even close to being on my level.. Meaning that even Jews who maternally weren't semite still didn't have any Khazar traces.Your original statement was: "Genetic researches on Ashkenazi Jews don't show any Khazar bloodline." NOW YOU GOT OWNED.