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I TO DA GEEZY:
1.Yes it is based on the fact they were exiled as well. Among other things.
2.No, I meant that it would end Israel's existence.
3.Freedom- Allowes you to do anything untill you compromise someone elses freedom<Does it contradict itself? If Israel has the right to exist, if this something you accept, the return of Palestinian refugees would end its existence.
4.International Law defines what is legal and what is illegal< Selective by definition
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on January 08, 2006, 12:13:49 PM ---1.Yes it is based on the fact they were exiled as well. Among other things.
2.No, I meant that it would end Israel's existence.
3.Freedom- Allowes you to do anything untill you compromise someone elses freedom<Does it contradict itself? If Israel has the right to exist, if this something you accept, the return of Palestinian refugees would end its existence.
4.International Law defines what is legal and what is illegal< Selective by definition
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1. Haganah, Irgun, Stern, etc... Al-Abbasiyya, Beit Daras, Bir Al-Saba, Al-Kabri, Haifa, Qisarya,etc.
Then Palestinians have the right to return. Thanks for agreeing.
International law: refugees have the right to return to their homes of origin, receive real property restitution, and compensation for loss and damages. Resolution 3236 made the right of return an inalienable right.
2 & 3. No, it wouldn't end Israel's existence... it would just end its Jewish nature in existence. That's ok...
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on January 06, 2006, 02:04:04 AM ---So Middle Eastern origin doesn't make people entitled to live somewhere in the Middle East?- GOOD TO KNOW, this could have saved us a lot of time. ;D
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--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on January 06, 2006, 03:06:11 AM ---Yep, both Arabs and Jews(Or anyone else for the matter, I don't see why human beings shouldn't be able to live anywhere they want in the world.
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Thanks for the contradiction.
4. "International Law defines what is legal and what is illegal. < Selective by definition"
LMFAO. Another display of utter stupidity by our fellow Zionist.
It defines what is legal and illegal for everyone. The right of refugees to return to their homes is an inalienable right... it's EVERYBODY'S right. How is that selective? Are you really this dumb?
Let's look at some more examples of "selectivity" according to you...
"We're allowed to drive past a green light, but not a red one" < Selective
"We're not allowed to kill" < Selective
"My government says I can't steal" < Selective
You get the point... you're an idiot.
I TO DA GEEZY:
You seem to be talking to yourself being that you have disregarded my entire statement.
1.I was talking about Jews not about the refugees.
2&3.Ending it's Jewish nature would mean the end of it's existence. Israel is a Jewish democratic state. If Jews wanted to settle for being persecuted within totalitarian Arab regimes or in Europe there would be no Israel. As long as Jews are being persecuted because of their ethnic origin a Jewish state needs to exist.
4. lol For Everyone....these are the key words....What we see in reality is how certain laws are only applied to Jews while they are not being applied to Arabs.
You should be clear on the diff between International Law and regular law. International law-Customs, Treaties, agreements and rules that govern relations among nations.
If international law had been applied to the Arab world the way it is applied to Israel's defensive actions (In a legitimate response to terrorist aggression) you'd see hundreds of resolutions against Palestinian use and condonation of terrorism which are in no way defensive but are TARGETED at civilians. From that last site you hooked us up with we could see the Palestinian side was not charged with a single resolution, now isn't this the definition of selective?
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on January 09, 2006, 08:36:55 AM ---You seem to be talking to yourself being that you have disregarded my entire statement.
1.I was talking about Jews not about the refugees.
2&3.Ending it's Jewish nature would mean the end of it's existence. Israel is a Jewish democratic state. If Jews wanted to settle for being persecuted within totalitarian Arab regimes or in Europe there would be no Israel. As long as Jews are being persecuted because of their ethnic origin a Jewish state needs to exist.
4. lol For Everyone....these are the key words....What we see in reality is how certain laws are only applied to Jews while they are not being applied to Arabs.
You should be clear on the diff between International Law and regular law. International law-Customs, Treaties, agreements and rules that govern relations among nations.
If international law had been applied to the Arab world the way it is applied to Israel's defensive actions (In a legitimate response to terrorist aggression) you'd see hundreds of resolutions against Palestinian use and condonation of terrorism which are in no way defensive but are TARGETED at civilians. From that last site you hooked us up with we could see the Palestinian side was not charged with a single resolution, now isn't this the definition of selective?
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1. Exactly because there's no way to defend a country that chooses to ignore a people's right to return.
2. This contradicts your quoted statements above.
3. There is no Palestinian nation... they're occupied territories. Do you want resolutions against civlians? By the way... check what International Law says about fighting an illegal occupation.
I TO DA GEEZY:
So there is no Palestinian nation now lol...this is great, you finally admit it. It's funny that there is Palestinian nationalism while there isn't a Palestinian nation though. Easier to see the ploy now? Would you call Hamas civilians? Maybe the Jihad or the PLO are civilians?
The UN is in support of this ploy therefore you get these double standard resolutions.
Nothing is being contradicted, if we lived in a world that didn't persecute people because of their origin we could do without borders and live anywhere we wanted, currently this is not the case.
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