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Riddle(WARNING:invovles logic).
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on January 10, 2006, 08:17:30 AM ---So there is no Palestinian nation now lol...this is great, you finally admit it. It's funny that there is Palestinian nationalism while there isn't a Palestinian nation though. Easier to see the ploy now? Would you call Hamas civilians? Maybe the Jihad or the PLO are civilians?
The UN is in support of this ploy therefore you get these double standard resolutions.
Nothing is being contradicted, if we lived in a world that didn't persecute people because of their origin we could do without borders and live anywhere we wanted, currently this is not the case.
--- End quote ---
Nationalism can exist prior to the existence of an actual sovereign state... and it's often one of the running motives for the establishment of one... just in the same way that Zionism existed before the establishment of Israel...
Do you really mean to tell me that you consider "the West Bank" and the "Gaza Strip" a sovereign state? LOL... I guess if you're a Zionist that is the same thing as "ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED TERRITORIES".
Your statements are in complete contradiction. You believe people should live wherever they choose... you say people of Middle Eastern origin should be allowed to live anywhere in the Middle East... yet you say that Palestinians should not be allowed to return to their homes. Now tell me that I'm selective in my principles. Not only are you quite dumb and ignorant, you're also a hypocrite.
I TO DA GEEZY:
J you seem to have a problem.
1.We weren't even talking about sovereign states, we were talking about the Palestinian nation- as in people. May I remind you that you have just said it doesn't exist, not me-YOU!
You also haven't answered whether you view Hamas, Jihad and PLO as civilians?...lol
2.The fact the West Bank and Gaza aren't formally regarded as a state or as states is not because of Israel. Do you remember who was the one to declare Israel and on what portion of the land?
3.I believe that in a world with no racial hatred people could live anywhere they wanted. As you may have heared this is not the world we are living in today.
Do you see the distinction between the desirable and the available now?
P.S
The only contradiction here is you being able to type without a brain.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on January 11, 2006, 10:44:03 AM ---J you seem to have a problem.
1.We weren't even talking about sovereign states, we were talking about the Palestinian nation- as in people. May I remind you that you have just said it doesn't exist, not me-YOU!
You also haven't answered whether you view Hamas, Jihad and PLO as civilians?...lol
2.The fact the West Bank and Gaza aren't formally regarded as a state or as states is not because of Israel. Do you remember who was the one to declare Israel and on what portion of the land?
3.I believe that in a world with no racial hatred people could live anywhere they wanted. As you may have heared this is not the world we are living in today.
Do you see the distinction between the desirable and the available now?
P.S
The only contradiction here is you being able to type without a brain.
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I was referring to nation as in nation-state... an established country... not "a people"... if you were able to comprehend simple English, you would know that because I said there was no Palestinian nation and used the contrast of describing the lands as occupied territories... how you made the parallel of territory to "a people" rather than what it is, also doesn't come as a surprise because you're as dumb as they get
So the fact that Israel is illegally occupying the West Bank is not Israel's fault? LOL.. yeah, okay... you're a bright one.
Yeah... so you believe that Jews should be able to take the land and make it their own, and the people kicked off shouldn't be allowed to return... Zionism is great... and you're a genius.... the sky is pink.
And you should be the last person speaking on intelligence... if you want proof, take a look at my sig. LOLLL typical Zionist retard
I TO DA GEEZY:
LMAO ;D
The Palestinians aren't a Nation, International Law applies to relations among Nations ERGO International Law doesn't apply to the Palestinians.
This is what you have just said.
The fact West Bank and Gaza haven't been proclaimed as a state has nothing to do with Israel. Israel itself was proclaimed under threats of war and on a very small portion of the land. In fact things are much more stable for the Palestinian Authority right now than they were for Israel when it was declared.
PS.
Jamal, if you don't see how a specimen research not showing certain findings doesn't imply these findings aren't possible under different demographics, there's not much I can do to help you.
coola:
i wonder if anyone bothered reading their bickering ? dudes should just pm eachother...
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