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Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on January 18, 2006, 10:25:09 AM ---Your analogy is flawed.
Europeans who came to colonize America already had national homes/countries.
Europeans who came to colonize America weren't persecuted because they didn't have a national home.
Europeans who came to colonize America wanted to force their culture and religion on the native population.
Jews came back to their Historical homeland, from which they were exiled, to save themselves from Anti-semitism.
Jews didn't have a national home
Jews were persecuted for centuries because they didn't have a national home
Jews didn't come with an intention to force anything on the native population
--- End quote ---
The reasons you have provided.... none of them justify killing and removing an indigenous population off their land and not allowing them to return.
You're right about one thing... they didn't force anything on the native population... what are they gonna force on them if they drive them off their own land?
I TO DA GEEZY:
So it's about justification now.
Does the fact Jews came to settle on the same piece of land, give people the right to kill Jews?...If that's your ideology, I'm not surprised we're still having this debate.
When it is a question of survival.
When Jews are being slaughtered in the only place in the world where they expected to live in peace, after years of persecution and oppression in Europe.
When for the first time in 2000 years the Jewish People can finally establish a national home- A REFUGE, first and formost due to persecution elsewhere.
Aggression can't be tolerated.
virtuoso:
In reality we all know that jews have massacred the palestinians before, we know that sharons infamous squad bulldozed peoples homes with the people stay inside them, we know that israel has deliberately destroyed palestinian water supplies before, we know that israel has driven the natives off their land and we know that sharon allowed the massacres in refugee camps. Your absolutely right aggression shouldnt be tolerated if the so called civilised world gave a shit they would have put a stop to israels sickening abuses but they dont they just bankroll them all the more, provide them with yet more military hardware.
The prime example of this was Israel massacring the members on board the USS LIberty that in itself is an act of war and yet the U.S reward them with yet more "aid". The collusion is disgusting, no one seems to give a fuck if a palestinian dies or lives.
I TO DA GEEZY:
Thing is, you assume or try to convince yourself some of the tragic accidetns that occured, during certain military operations by the IDF, were premeditated.
Whether Palestinian Militants are targeting civilians isn't even debated, it's a fact!
Every and each one of your posts comes to indoctrinate terrorism! You're trying to justify the murder of civilians through assumptions, and misonconceptions you've got, about the IDF and Israel's Agenda.
I'm a first person witness to IDF's moral code, from inside. You don't have to believe me since what I'm saying is factual- it makes no difference whether you believe me or not, THE IDF, AS AN INSTITUTION, IS AMONG THE MOST MORALLY AWARE MILITARY ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD!
How many armies in the world can claim to have a warning mechanism for civilians at times of war.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on January 19, 2006, 02:33:28 AM ---So it's about justification now.
Does the fact Jews came to settle on the same piece of land, give people the right to kill Jews?...If that's your ideology, I'm not surprised we're still having this debate.
When it is a question of survival.
When Jews are being slaughtered in the only place in the world where they expected to live in peace, after years of persecution and oppression in Europe.
When for the first time in 2000 years the Jewish People can finally establish a national home- A REFUGE, first and formost due to persecution elsewhere.
Aggression can't be tolerated.
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1. Jews didn't simply come to "settle" the land. Are you now going to deny the whole definition of Zionism?
2. The Jews were carrying out attacks on Palestinians.
3. Palestinian people have the right to defend THEIR land. If some group of European colonizers is trying to steal the land and create their own country on it, then yes, the Palestinian people have the right to do so. Your own faggot Zionist leaders of the past have acknowledged this.
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