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Quote from: Jrome The Damaja on January 09, 2006, 05:08:47 PMBlindly defending anything G-Unit. Gotta love Jome Been a Mobb fan since the mid-90's, try again.Funny how you avoided the whole post, not too updated on Mobb Deep, are we.. ??
Blindly defending anything G-Unit. Gotta love Jome
I ain't avoiding shit dog. We both know i posted a long ass time ago that i was all for M.O.P. and MOBB signing to G-Unit as long as they didn't compromise their style. Well they're already doing it, and they haven't even dropped their albums yet. You got 50 doing the lead verse, and ad-libbing G-Unit over the whole damn track. Not what i'm looking for when i check for MOBB DEEP. 50 been talking about how he got M.O.P. in the gym so he can tap that LL Cool J fanbase. Not what i'm looking for when i check for M.O.P.
Quote from: Jrome The Damaja on January 09, 2006, 08:54:17 PMI ain't avoiding shit dog. We both know i posted a long ass time ago that i was all for M.O.P. and MOBB signing to G-Unit as long as they didn't compromise their style. Well they're already doing it, and they haven't even dropped their albums yet. You got 50 doing the lead verse, and ad-libbing G-Unit over the whole damn track. Not what i'm looking for when i check for MOBB DEEP. 50 been talking about how he got M.O.P. in the gym so he can tap that LL Cool J fanbase. Not what i'm looking for when i check for M.O.P.The only thing that changed for Mobb Deep, is that they exchanged a Lil Jon cut or a 112 hook for some 50 Cent cameos, and fatter pockets.And let's not forget bigger budgets for production, promotion, videos.. Let's have a look at the other tracks Mobb put out after they signed with G-Unit:Poppin Bottles - Alchemist produced throwback cut a la "Got it twisted"L'ecole du crime feat. 113 - Dark Alchemist track feat. French rapper 113, grimey heater.Yeah - Cool little Havoc produced track about guns & crime, the usual, made for mixtapes. The Infamous ft. 50 Cent - Alchemist brings the heat again, with a wicked sample. 50 is limited to a small chorus with very few G-Unit shouts. Gangbang Music feat. Yayo - Alchemist again, dark track Mobb Deep style, Yayo only on the chorus.Talking Sideways - Once again dark beat, somewhat South influenced, made for mixtapes.We on it - Weird dark beat, not the best track imo.How you survive - Dope dark Havoc beat, shit is live, y'all don't want with H.Not hurtin nuthin - Average Havoc beat, commercial ? No.That's that feat. Alchemist - Hell yeah, crazy Alchemist sample, Alc even drops a verse, gangstashit!Champions feat. Twin - Prodigy and Twin on that grimey Infamous tip, QB style.You a shooter feat. 50 Cent - A little boring Sha Money beat, but decent track about shooting and killing.Where's the singing Where's the selling out If you can take Mobb Deep jumping around in the club in button-ups with Lil Jon, I'm sure you can take some cameos from 50 Cent as well.
I think you are kind of missing the point though Jome, all the tracks you mentioned showed up on I guess mixtapes and what ever (I'll admit to having only heard 3-4 of the tracks you listed). The first time they do a track that actually appears on a G-Unit album, and its this bullshit. I've no doubt they'll continue to drop "grimy shit" on mixtapes, but I can't help feeling that at least half of their first album on G-Unit is going to be this kind of mindless party track, which is not what I check Mobb Deep for.
I appreciate your critique of Mobb Deep's recent tracks since they signed to G-Unit, and i can't front i haven't nearly heard all of them. Problem is, your opinion on anything G-Unit is drastically different then mine, so it means nothing.
Do you understand the definition of selling out? Who gives a fuck if they have fatter pockets, bigger budgets for production, promotion, videos, etc? Congrats to them for getting $, but if they make bullshit music to do so then i have NO interest. I'll say it AGAIN - From a music standpoint it's fucking wack. You could take damn near anybody, put 50 on a verse, shout G-Unit, get a flashy video with ass everywhere. You'd probably have a hit, and that person would get "fatter pockets". But that's not what i'm supporting.
So if this is such a good move for them, are you predicting a better album than "The Infamous" or "Hell on Earth"? Did those albums have huge budgets for production, promotion, videos? Did the fact that they didn't have big budgets ruin the musicianship on those albums? FUCK NO.
Did you honestly think that getting 112 to sing lovesongs and dancing around with Lil Jon in the club wasn't about trying to cash in, that it wasn't selling out, but signing with 50 Cent is ??REALITY CHECK!
Quote from: Krayzie Jome on January 10, 2006, 05:31:35 PMDid you honestly think that getting 112 to sing lovesongs and dancing around with Lil Jon in the club wasn't about trying to cash in, that it wasn't selling out, but signing with 50 Cent is ??REALITY CHECK! you do realize that you said the exact opposite about Nas almost signing with Murder Inc? you thought that was a bad move just because you hate Ja, but you're gonna argue with people that lost respect for Mobb Deep for signing with G-Unit?another wow moment!
Mobb Deep is lucky to reach gold, obviously this is a totally different situation.Another "THINK BEFORE YOU POST AGAIN" moment.
Mobb Deep is the topic here, I don't care which label they are on, like you obviously can not get over.I would have reviewed the tracks the same way if they were still on Jive, because I don't switch opinions about artists according to which label they are on, it seems like you cannot like Mobb Deep any more, or say anything unbiased about them, since they're on 50 Cent's label, and you hate him so bad that you hate everything associated with him.
It's time for Mobb Deep to get that motherfucking paper, don't be jealous.It seemed like Jive was the solution, they promised much, but delivered not so much.
It's 2006, get with the times! Some of you fools still living in the 90s.Mobb Deep been putting in work since the early 90's, did it pay off yet ?? Did dark grimey Murda Music put them in the limelight with a HUGE loyal fanbase and global airplay ? No x 4.If they actually did put out a album in Infamous/HOE-style, people would be talking about old news, and not renewing themselves.
Can't blame them for trying to end their careers with a decent retirement fund, but by all means, continue the G-Unot bashfest if you desire.
Don't have the figures for Infamy or AN.
Regardless of what label its on, you obviously have different musical tastes than me - which is why i don't hold your reviews in a high regard.
You completely sidestepped my question here. DO YOU THINK THIS ALBUM WILL BE BETTER THAN "THE INFAMOUS" OR "HELL ON EARTH" ? Both of these albums are widely regarded as classics, or if nothing else, MOBB's best work. What the fuck does the time frame in which they came have to do with ANYTHING? I'm not talking about if the feel of the album will have that 90's grimey feeling that these two had, i'm saying: Do you think this album will be held with the high regard that these two are?
You realize when you make this statement, that you are admitting they are taking this route strictly for the paper? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MUSICAL DIRECTION THEY ARE TAKING - NOT THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
QuoteYou realize when you make this statement, that you are admitting they are taking this route strictly for the paper? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MUSICAL DIRECTION THEY ARE TAKING - NOT THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.just stop man, jome is gonna anything g-unit affiliated. he'll probably even buy a lil scrappy cd nowQuote from: Eihtball on January 10, 2006, 07:53:55 PMI'll admit I'd be pissed if the Mobb put out an entire album of songs like "Have A Party", but I know that's not gonna happen.lol aww how cute, you still have faith that g-unit is gonna come with somethin good. i lost hope after hearing yayo's album (i thought they would put out a street album to follow up with all his big shot talk).
You realize when you make this statement, that you are admitting they are taking this route strictly for the paper? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MUSICAL DIRECTION THEY ARE TAKING - NOT THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.just stop man, jome is gonna anything g-unit affiliated. he'll probably even buy a lil scrappy cd nowQuote from: Eihtball on January 10, 2006, 07:53:55 PMI'll admit I'd be pissed if the Mobb put out an entire album of songs like "Have A Party", but I know that's not gonna happen.lol aww how cute, you still have faith that g-unit is gonna come with somethin good. i lost hope after hearing yayo's album (i thought they would put out a street album to follow up with all his big shot talk).
I'll admit I'd be pissed if the Mobb put out an entire album of songs like "Have A Party", but I know that's not gonna happen.