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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: bouli77 on August 10, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
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... since it's featuring Dead Prez and it's fucking dope. plus i'm sure you can relate to the lyrics ;D
http://www.youtube.com/v/TVjZwDZrh8g
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that album is still a personal classic to me
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sorry, refuse to listen on principal.
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sorry, refuse to listen on principal.
but Stic Man of Dead Prez is on it, don't sleep
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sorry, refuse to listen on principal.
why do u hate messy marv?
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video doesnt work in america, anyways.
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Try this one then, the version's a little bit different, but not that much...
http://www.youtube.com/v/ec7rCCDeHYw
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I don't listen to "My Generation" off of Nas and Damian's Distant Relatives album. Because Lil Wayne is on that track
why do u hate messy marv?
I don't particularly like or represent my city. I like to listen to music that takes me to another place. Messy Marv is really popular in my city right now.
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Messy Marv is from San Francisco, CA... not Kansas City, MI
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"baby" is my favorite Messy Marv song. He needs to do more songs like that.
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I don't listen to "My Generation" off of Nas and Damian's Distant Relatives album. Because Lil Wayne is on that track
why do u hate messy marv?
I don't particularly like or represent my city. I like to listen to music that takes me to another place. Messy Marv is really popular in my city right now.
lmao
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Messy Marv is from San Francisco, CA... not Kansas City, MI
No shit. I didn't say he was from here, I just said he was popular here. And judging what little I have seen of him, he reminds me a lot of the rappers here.
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infant your pussification has reached a new level. messy marv kinda sucks now but death on a bitch and both of the explosive modes with quinn are personal classics to me. playin wit my nose is a good song too
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why do u hate messy marv?
I'd be open to checkin him out, sometime when I'm outside of the midwest. But definitely not while I'm submerged in this subterfuge
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^^^ this guy is a complete retard, what's up with all the idiots on the forums lately
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^^^ this guy is a complete retard, what's up with all the idiots on the forums lately
Principal of Relativity
My not wanting to listen to Messy Marv may sound stupid to you, but my reasons are totally valid. Let me explain, because Marc Landus wrote a great article about this one time in the Source. In fact it's the best fucking article I've ever read in my entire life. He wrote it as the editorial piece on the Source issue where Dre's featured for leaving Death Row, and it was at the height of the East/West beef...
He wrote about how perspective and environment plays a huge role in the music that we like. Ever wonder why you could be out at a club with a girl your really feeling at the moment, the vibe of the club is great, and right at that moment a song comes on and the club goes into euphoria and you think it's the dopest shit you ever heard But yet, weeks later you finally get around to buying the cd and pop it into your stereo, and your like, "what the fuck is this trash", and it doesn't even seem like the same song? What changed? L
In the world of physics, this is called the PRINCIPLE OF RELATIVITY.
What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does.
Take the East/West beef for example. How dope would Warren G's laid back flow sound on "This D.J." if you were over on the East Coast riding on a stinky as subway? Contrast that with the grimeyness of Method Man's "Bring The Pain" while your cruising 15 miles an hour on a slow sunny day in LA!
The songs in question don't change, what changes is ones point of reference. And our point of reference, and our perspective, is shaped by many factors such as our environment and our experiences positive and negative. This doesn't make either person wrong, it just makes everyone different.
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Okay, so now that you have been educated on the subject of perspective, point of reference, and the Principal of Relativity; let's get back to the original discussion, which was about why I won't listen to Messy Marv. If you are in an environment you don't like, and you are around people that you don't like. Then the music enjoyed there will not sound that dope to you. But if you are in a place that you like, and around people that you like, and you hear the same song you may see that song from a different perspective and enjoy it.
...this is actually a fascinating subject that I could go into a great detail about. Because it has implications into everything in life, from what we believe in, to who we choose as friends, to how we choose to live, and so on.
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^^^ this guy is a complete retard, what's up with all the idiots on the forums lately
Principal of Relativity
My not wanting to listen to Messy Marv may sound stupid to you, but my reasons are totally valid. Let me explain, because Marc Landus wrote a great article about this one time in the Source. In fact it's the best fucking article I've ever read in my entire life. He wrote it as the editorial piece on the Source issue where Dre's featured for leaving Death Row, and it was at the height of the East/West beef...
He wrote about how perspective and environment plays a huge role in the music that we like. Ever wonder why you could be out at a club with a girl your really feeling at the moment, the vibe of the club is great, and right at that moment a song comes on and the club goes into euphoria and you think it's the dopest shit you ever heard But yet, weeks later you finally get around to buying the cd and pop it into your stereo, and your like, "what the fuck is this trash", and it doesn't even seem like the same song? What changed? L
In the world of physics, this is called the PRINCIPLE OF RELATIVITY.
What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does.
Take the East/West beef for example. How dope would Warren G's laid back flow sound on "This D.J." if you were over on the East Coast riding on a stinky as subway? Contrast that with the grimeyness of Method Man's "Bring The Pain" while your cruising 15 miles an hour on a slow sunny day in LA!
The songs in question don't change, what changes is ones point of reference. And our point of reference, and our perspective, is shaped by many factors such as our environment and our experiences positive and negative. This doesn't make either person wrong, it just makes everyone different.
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Okay, so now that you have been educated on the subject of perspective, point of reference, and the Principal of Relativity; let's get back to the original discussion, which was about why I won't listen to Messy Marv. If you are in an environment you don't like, and you are around people that you don't like. Then the music enjoyed there will not sound that dope to you. But if you are in a place that you like, and around people that you like, and you hear the same song you may see that song from a different perspective and enjoy it.
...this is actually a fascinating subject that I could go into a great detail about. Because it has implications into everything in life, from what we believe in, to who we choose as friends, to how we choose to live, and so on.
so basically, if we were chillin out in cali and we were smokin a blunt to a nice view and i put on some dope messy marv shit, u would feel it based on environment? i totally understand the concept. in fact, i kinda get upset when people let environment and moods dictate how they perceive a song, because to me, that's just not listening with an open-mind, it's letting ur emotions control ur ears. but I get it, it happens to every1. i just think it's optimal to listen to music while judging it from a logical standpoint, as opposed to judging it based on relativity. if that were the case, I would NEVER bump Mobb Deep, Nas, Wu, etc. then again, I do feel west coast shit a whole lot more than east coast shit, so the principle applies to me, as well. i just think the principle is more of a flaw than it is a gift. feel me?
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^^^ this guy is a complete retard, what's up with all the idiots on the forums lately
Principal of Relativity
My not wanting to listen to Messy Marv may sound stupid to you, but my reasons are totally valid. Let me explain, because Marc Landus wrote a great article about this one time in the Source. In fact it's the best fucking article I've ever read in my entire life. He wrote it as the editorial piece on the Source issue where Dre's featured for leaving Death Row, and it was at the height of the East/West beef...
He wrote about how perspective and environment plays a huge role in the music that we like. Ever wonder why you could be out at a club with a girl your really feeling at the moment, the vibe of the club is great, and right at that moment a song comes on and the club goes into euphoria and you think it's the dopest shit you ever heard But yet, weeks later you finally get around to buying the cd and pop it into your stereo, and your like, "what the fuck is this trash", and it doesn't even seem like the same song? What changed? L
In the world of physics, this is called the PRINCIPLE OF RELATIVITY.
What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does.
Take the East/West beef for example. How dope would Warren G's laid back flow sound on "This D.J." if you were over on the East Coast riding on a stinky as subway? Contrast that with the grimeyness of Method Man's "Bring The Pain" while your cruising 15 miles an hour on a slow sunny day in LA!
The songs in question don't change, what changes is ones point of reference. And our point of reference, and our perspective, is shaped by many factors such as our environment and our experiences positive and negative. This doesn't make either person wrong, it just makes everyone different.
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Okay, so now that you have been educated on the subject of perspective, point of reference, and the Principal of Relativity; let's get back to the original discussion, which was about why I won't listen to Messy Marv. If you are in an environment you don't like, and you are around people that you don't like. Then the music enjoyed there will not sound that dope to you. But if you are in a place that you like, and around people that you like, and you hear the same song you may see that song from a different perspective and enjoy it.
...this is actually a fascinating subject that I could go into a great detail about. Because it has implications into everything in life, from what we believe in, to who we choose as friends, to how we choose to live, and so on.
so basically, if we were chillin out in cali and we were smokin a blunt to a nice view and i put on some dope messy marv shit, u would feel it based on environment? i totally understand the concept. in fact, i kinda get upset when people let environment and moods dictate how they perceive a song, because to me, that's just not listening with an open-mind, it's letting ur emotions control ur ears. but I get it, it happens to every1. i just think it's optimal to listen to music while judging it from a logical standpoint, as opposed to judging it based on relativity. if that were the case, I would NEVER bump Mobb Deep, Nas, Wu, etc. then again, I do feel west coast shit a whole lot more than east coast shit, so the principle applies to me, as well. i just think the principle is more of a flaw than it is a gift. feel me?
I agree.
It is kinda cool tho when you're with your friends and 'that song' comes on and you're all hyped to hear it. But if you were by yourself you'd be like 'meh'.
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so basically, if we were chillin out in cali and we were smokin a blunt to a nice view and i put on some dope messy marv shit, u would feel it based on environment?
exactly! 8) ...and I actually enjoy listening to music I don't normally listen to when I'm in a different environment, cause it opens me up to new sounds.
i totally understand the concept. in fact, i kinda get upset when people let environment and moods dictate how they perceive a song, because to me, that's just not listening with an open-mind, it's letting ur emotions control ur ears. but I get it, it happens to every1. i just think it's optimal to listen to music while judging it from a logical standpoint, as opposed to judging it based on relativity. if that were the case, I would NEVER bump Mobb Deep, Nas, Wu, etc. then again, I do feel west coast shit a whole lot more than east coast shit, so the principle applies to me, as well. i just think the principle is more of a flaw than it is a gift. feel me?
Good point. That's a more fair, objective way of listening to music. Whereas, the method I was describing was from a much more selfish perspective...
...but think of it like this... Why do people sometimes smoke a cigarette after they smoke a joint? Or after they have had sex? It's to make the high last longer. I see music as a way to ride out whatever mood you are in. Just like you ride out whatever high the weed puts in you. Sometimes the high makes you happy, sometimes it makes you reflective, sometimes it makes you angry. But we enjoy riding that high whatever it is. So it's not so much that I'm letting my mood affect my taste in music, as it is me wanting to let the music compliment my moods and whatever feeling (high) I'm experiencing at the moment. And I'm sure you've had a good high ruined before, and that's something you have to watch out for.
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to. Now sometimes environment can affect mood (ie like the example of being drunk at a party and jamming to dance music, doesn't take a genius to figure out). Most of the time environment is separate from mood. I've lived in Cali all my life, it doesn't stop me from bumping music from a wide variety of places.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
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I agree.
It is kinda cool tho when you're with your friends and 'that song' comes on and you're all hyped to hear it. But if you were by yourself you'd be like 'meh'.
Right. And the opposite is true as well. Like I've been a fan of Phil Collins my whole life. But imagine bumping that shit in a car full of guys, lol.
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
Now sometimes environment can affect mood (ie like the example of being drunk at a party and jamming to dance music, doesn't take a genius to figure out).
...and btw, that wasn't the article that I posted. I was just paraphrasing the article and putting it into my own words
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Infinite makes good points...Spice-2 didn't really get it.
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
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i'm pretty much with nik on the whole issue. i understand infinite's logic but i think it's a bit reaching to do that though. and def not open minded. but society makes people do that. like listening to ja rule is not the thing to do if you want to be cool (random example), yet i'm sure if some rappers they like had dropped "livin it up" or "always on time" instead of ja, some people would have liked the track better.
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
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However, Infinite, if you're in a city you don't like, around people you don't like you should listen to the song all the more. It's melancholic music-wise but with an uplifting message.
BTW, you're missing out if you don't know the Outlawz/Dead Prez album.
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.
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either way Infinite, you are sleeping on Stic Man (of Dead Prez) by sleeping on this record by Messy Marv
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.
Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.
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Honestly, the silliest shit I ever heard.
Yeah, maybe I'd be more inclined to blast some Dre or Pac if I was in California. Or when I'm rollin' around here, I'll blast Illmatic. But that doesn't mean I just turn off everyone else.
Based on your theory, you should never listen to Nas because there are not circumstances where Illmatic fits your situation. Where are you where classic, East Coast music comes into play?
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Honestly, the silliest shit I ever heard.
Yeah, maybe I'd be more inclined to blast some Dre or Pac if I was in California. Or when I'm rollin' around here, I'll blast Illmatic. But that doesn't mean I just turn off everyone else.
Based on your theory, you should never listen to Nas because there are not circumstances where Illmatic fits your situation. Where are you where classic, East Coast music comes into play?
Another idiot who didn't get it.
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^You're a fucking idiot. You just said three posts above "it's about the envoirment you're in". What West Coast envoirment would make you listen to East Coast music?
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.
Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.
right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?
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^You're a fucking idiot. You just said three posts above "it's about the envoirment you're in". What West Coast envoirment would make you listen to East Coast music?
LOL...u are so fucking dumb, son. read the post above this one. different music gives off different vibes. music with an east coast vibe, for me, i'd listen to chillin in my room in my headphones, as opposed to some upbeat west coast music, which i'd rather bump cruisin the streets with my windows down. ...different music for different moods/settings. doesnt mean i have to relate to the words or the coast the artist is from lmfao, just the vibe the song gives off. you must have a very low IQ to not understand what is being said here.
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right...and most people are stupid sheep.
your little rap group is called lamb. you know that a lamb is a baby sheep right? are you starting you realize how gay that is?
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right...and most people are stupid sheep.
your little rap group is called lamb. you know that a lamb is a baby sheep right? are you starting you realize how gay that is?
check comments on this video for further explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtDuF_XAjiU
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That's mad fake. The envoirment in California will never make you listen to East Coast music.
Just like I've never found myself in an envoirment to bump West Coast music. I just bump it because it's dope.
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right...and most people are stupid sheep.
your little rap group is called lamb. you know that a lamb is a baby sheep right? are you starting you realize how gay that is?
check comments on this video for further explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtDuF_XAjiU
we are all lambs being guided by corrupt shepherds...a real lamb knows what he is and rebels against those fraudelent individuals attempting to lead the way. LA's Most Blunted, fuckwidit.
hahaha i can see why you might feel like a baby sheep seeing as youre a pussy whos almost 25 and still lives with his parents, but i for damn sure aint no fuckin lamb
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right...and most people are stupid sheep.
your little rap group is called lamb. you know that a lamb is a baby sheep right? are you starting you realize how gay that is?
check comments on this video for further explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtDuF_XAjiU
we are all lambs being guided by corrupt shepherds...a real lamb knows what he is and rebels against those fraudelent individuals attempting to lead the way. LA's Most Blunted, fuckwidit.
hahaha i can see why you might feel like a baby sheep seeing as youre a pussy whos almost 25 and still lives with his parents, but i for damn sure aint no fuckin lamb
we're all sheeps, u dumbfuck...the system we're in owns us, and those who understand this do not comply with the system. those who actually think they are living their own life and are not being controlled by a system are retarded, such as urself.
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That's mad fake. The envoirment in California will never make you listen to East Coast music.
Just like I've never found myself in an envoirment to bump West Coast music. I just bump it because it's dope.
LOL...the concept went over your head. perhaps ur too young to understand. one day u'll get it (i hope)
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and i get what you guys mean about the environment being able to make you want to listen to certain types of music, but infant is an idiot who can only see things in black and white and just flat out rejects ever listening to messy marv because he lives in misery (missouri too)
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.
Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.
right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?
Because of mood not environment. Regardless of whether you're on the way to visit someone in the hospital or sitting on the beach getting a phone call that someone is in the hospital, you're still going to feel the same.
Music tastes change, and its not based on environment. Rap fans in California loved the Death Row sound in the 90s, now they don't. Environment is still the same. If I moved to New York for a year I guarantee you I would still be listening to the same kind of music.
And this discussion still hasn't explained why Infinite won't listen to the song. He listens to Afrocentric music (Damian Marley), NY (Nas), emo rap (Pac and Em) and gangsta pop (Snoop), most of which isn't shaped by his environment.
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.
Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.
right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?
Because of mood not environment. Regardless of whether you're on the way to visit someone in the hospital or sitting on the beach getting a phone call that someone is in the hospital, you're still going to feel the same.
Music tastes change, and its not based on environment. Rap fans in California loved the Death Row sound in the 90s, now they don't. Environment is still the same. If I moved to New York for a year I guarantee you I would still be listening to the same kind of music.
And this discussion still hasn't explained why Infinite won't listen to the song.
environments set moods, u fucking idiot...good lord. man, i tried to be patient with u, but ur just too fucking dumb, bro. do u really not get it? i'm not saying environment is EVERYTHING, but it plays its part. for some people less, for some people more. to flat out ignore this concept and brush it off as inaccurate is just straight up retarded on ur behalf.
i'll try explaining it one more time...just because u live on the west doesnt mean ur gunna listen exclusively to west coast music. but someone who is chillin on the beach will TYPICALLY be more inclined to bump Dogg Pound over Wu-Tang. someone chillin in the subways of NYC will TYPICALLY be more inclined to listen to Mobb Deep over Warren G & Nate Dogg. it's not the same for everyone, but we're speakin in general terms.
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i thought you people figured out that you can't have a coherent argument with infant and nikkie ::)
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^yet 3 different people agreed with me in this thread...slap yaself.
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.
Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.
right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?
Because of mood not environment. Regardless of whether you're on the way to visit someone in the hospital or sitting on the beach getting a phone call that someone is in the hospital, you're still going to feel the same.
Music tastes change, and its not based on environment. Rap fans in California loved the Death Row sound in the 90s, now they don't. Environment is still the same. If I moved to New York for a year I guarantee you I would still be listening to the same kind of music.
And this discussion still hasn't explained why Infinite won't listen to the song.
environments set moods, u fucking idiot...good lord. man, i tried to be patient with u, but ur just too fucking dumb, bro. do u really not get it? i'm not saying environment is EVERYTHING, but it plays its part. for some people less, for some people more. to flat out ignore this concept and brush it off as inaccurate is just straight up retarded on ur behalf.
i'll try explaining it one more time...just because u live on the west doesnt mean ur gunna listen exclusively to west coast music. but someone who is chillin on the beach will TYPICALLY be more inclined to bump Dogg Pound over Wu-Tang. someone chillin in the subways of NYC will TYPICALLY be more inclined to listen to Mobb Deep over Warren G & Nate Dogg. it's not the same for everyone, but we're speakin in general terms.
If I'm chillin' on a beach, Tha Dogg Pound wouldn't be the first cd I'd be reaching for.
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.
Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.
right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?
Because of mood not environment. Regardless of whether you're on the way to visit someone in the hospital or sitting on the beach getting a phone call that someone is in the hospital, you're still going to feel the same.
Music tastes change, and its not based on environment. Rap fans in California loved the Death Row sound in the 90s, now they don't. Environment is still the same. If I moved to New York for a year I guarantee you I would still be listening to the same kind of music.
And this discussion still hasn't explained why Infinite won't listen to the song.
environments set moods, u fucking idiot...good lord. man, i tried to be patient with u, but ur just too fucking dumb, bro. do u really not get it? i'm not saying environment is EVERYTHING, but it plays its part. for some people less, for some people more. to flat out ignore this concept and brush it off as inaccurate is just straight up retarded on ur behalf.
i'll try explaining it one more time...just because u live on the west doesnt mean ur gunna listen exclusively to west coast music. but someone who is chillin on the beach will TYPICALLY be more inclined to bump Dogg Pound over Wu-Tang. someone chillin in the subways of NYC will TYPICALLY be more inclined to listen to Mobb Deep over Warren G & Nate Dogg. it's not the same for everyone, but we're speakin in general terms.
If I'm chillin' on a beach, Tha Dogg Pound wouldn't be the first cd I'd be reaching for.
to each his own, but u get what i mean...different music for different settings. the fact that some people dont get this concept is actually mind-boggling.
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Agreed with you? LOL. Nigga, it was Brian's point. You just attempted to explain his idiotic thought.
Still waiting for this California scenario where you'd find yourself sitting back & bumping Nas, Big L, Wu-Tang or Biggie. Opposed to listening to Dre, Snoop or Cube.
If you believed in your own theory, you shouldn't be some Euro-like, stuck in the 90's head either. The environment of a modern day club, forces you into listen to Wayne & Drake & random techno-ish songs. You should like them all, because when in that "environment", that's the musical option to fuck with. However, you don't seem to co-sign any motherfucker who came out after the turn of the millennium.
Bottom line, there is no subconcious thought process going on. You just listen to what you find to be dope. For example, if you were cruisin' around & you were listening to "Still D.R.E." & next somebody turned on "C.R.E.A.M.", you wouldn't stop & say, "Damn, this song sounds out of place. It doesn't fit the environment.". You'd bump because it's dope.
However, considering you're massively narrow-minded & don't really listen to too wide a variety of music, perhaps your theory may apply. If I only listened to six different artists, I guess I'd prefer to listen to each one in six different situations.
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Agreed with you? LOL. Nigga, it was Brian's point. You just attempted to explain his idiotic thought.
Still waiting for this California scenario where you'd find yourself sitting back & bumping Nas, Big L, Wu-Tang or Biggie. Opposed to listening to Dre, Snoop or Cube.
If you believed in your own theory, you shouldn't be some Euro-like, stuck in the 90's head either. The environment of a modern day club, forces you into listen to Wayne & Drake & random techno-ish songs. You should like them all, because when in that "environment", that's the musical option to fuck with. However, you don't seem to co-sign any motherfucker who came out after the turn of the millennium.
Bottom line, there is no subconcious thought process going on. You just listen to what you find to be dope. For example, if you were cruisin' around & you were listening to "Still D.R.E." & next somebody turned on "C.R.E.A.M.", you wouldn't stop & say, "Damn, this song sounds out of place. It doesn't fit the environment.". You'd bump because it's dope.
However, considering you're massively narrow-minded & don't really listen to too wide a variety of music, perhaps your theory may apply. If I only listened to six different artists, I guess I'd prefer to listen to each one in six different situations.
u are such a dumb mutherfucker, son. there is almost no hope for u.
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You need to show more effort before admitting defeat like that.
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^^^^u are too slow for life, kid.
I agree.
It is kinda cool tho when you're with your friends and 'that song' comes on and you're all hyped to hear it. But if you were by yourself you'd be like 'meh'.
i'm pretty much with nik on the whole issue.
and i get what you guys mean about the environment being able to make you want to listen to certain types of music,
part of what makes u so dumb is that ur way too cocky for bein an illogical lil kid sharing his opinion amongst grown folks
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woah hold up, i said i can understand how your environment can make you want to listen to certain types of music but to say "i cant listen to messy marv because i live here" is straight up retarded and totally expected from infant. i mean ive lived in the same area my whole fuckin life and i dont only listen to one type of music
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woah hold up, i said i can understand how your environment can make you want to listen to certain types of music but to say "i cant listen to messy marv because i live here" is straight up retarded and totally expected from infant. i mean ive lived in the same area my whole fuckin life and i dont only listen to one type of music
i never agreed or disgareed with infinite's view... to each his own. i personally like a lot of messy marv's shit, so i do believe that's him being close-minded on his behalf. but for someone to straight up deny the possibility that environment could play a part in what type of music one would wanna hear, as young cham has done in this very thread, is straight up retarded on another level.
lmao@ur insecure ass shook 2 admit we agree on something. smh.
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to each his own, but u get what i mean...different music for different settings. the fact that some people dont get this concept is actually mind-boggling.
Yeah.. it's a pretty simple concept, I don't know how these kids can't understand it. Do they think it's just mere coincidence that country music is popular in the rural countryside of America? Or that Reggae is popular poor, black, sunny regions? Or that the environment of South Bronx played a huge role in the creation of old school hip-hop?
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NIK, stop. You dodged my shutting you up post & then just posted people agreeing with you. You been lost, honkey.
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to each his own, but u get what i mean...different music for different settings. the fact that some people dont get this concept is actually mind-boggling.
Yeah.. it's a pretty simple concept, I don't know how these kids can't understand it. Do they think it's just mere coincidence that country music is popular in the rural countryside of America? Or that Reggae is popular poor, black, sunny regions? Or that the environment of South Bronx played a huge role in the creation of old school hip-hop?
i dunno if they really believe that...perhaps they're just sayin retarded ass shit for the sake of argument, to feel like theyre taking part in grown folk discussion. nobody can really be this stupid.
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Are we really talking about simplicity with you two? LOL. How about you "simply" defend this.
Still waiting for this California scenario where you'd find yourself sitting back & bumping Nas, Big L, Wu-Tang or Biggie. Opposed to listening to Dre, Snoop or Cube.
If you believed in your own theory, you shouldn't be some Euro-like, stuck in the 90's head either. The environment of a modern day club, forces you into listen to Wayne & Drake & random techno-ish songs. You should like them all, because when in that "environment", that's the musical option to fuck with. However, you don't seem to co-sign any motherfucker who came out after the turn of the millennium.
Bottom line, there is no subconcious thought process going on. You just listen to what you find to be dope. For example, if you were cruisin' around & you were listening to "Still D.R.E." & next somebody turned on "C.R.E.A.M.", you wouldn't stop & say, "Damn, this song sounds out of place. It doesn't fit the environment.". You'd bump because it's dope.
NIK had dodged it earlier for obvious reasons of looking like a moron.
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^I'll give u an example, idiot...on a cold, rainy day, even in cali, someone may be more inclined to bump biggie, shaq - u cant stop the reign over dove shack - summertime in the lbc...now kill urself, moron
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^I'll give u an example, idiot...on a cold, rainy day, even in cali, someone may be more inclined to bump biggie, shaq - u cant stop the reign over dove shack - summertime in the lbc...now kill urself, moron
lol... ;D
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.
Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.
right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?
Because of mood not environment. Regardless of whether you're on the way to visit someone in the hospital or sitting on the beach getting a phone call that someone is in the hospital, you're still going to feel the same.
Music tastes change, and its not based on environment. Rap fans in California loved the Death Row sound in the 90s, now they don't. Environment is still the same. If I moved to New York for a year I guarantee you I would still be listening to the same kind of music.
And this discussion still hasn't explained why Infinite won't listen to the song.
environments set moods, u fucking idiot...good lord. man, i tried to be patient with u, but ur just too fucking dumb, bro. do u really not get it? i'm not saying environment is EVERYTHING, but it plays its part. for some people less, for some people more. to flat out ignore this concept and brush it off as inaccurate is just straight up retarded on ur behalf.
i'll try explaining it one more time...just because u live on the west doesnt mean ur gunna listen exclusively to west coast music. but someone who is chillin on the beach will TYPICALLY be more inclined to bump Dogg Pound over Wu-Tang. someone chillin in the subways of NYC will TYPICALLY be more inclined to listen to Mobb Deep over Warren G & Nate Dogg. it's not the same for everyone, but we're speakin in general terms.
Environment can "help" set mood, it doesn't most of the time. I've pointed out like a million examples of this not being the case. Why the fuck would someone at the beach be bumping dpg? Lmao only if it were a beach in Europe. We don't even bump dpg in Cali anymore.
Again how does this determine what Infinite will or won't listen to? It doesn't make any sense. Since you haven't answered this I'm assuming there's no reason at all.
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^I'll give u an example, idiot...on a cold, rainy day, even in cali, someone may be more inclined to bump biggie, shaq - u cant stop the reign over dove shack - summertime in the lbc...now kill urself, moron
So you only listen to Biggie when it rains? What about the other 360 days when it's not raining & it's sunny?
You're just making this theory sound more & more retarded with each effort.
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aint nothin worse then dumb motherfuckers who think they are smart
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aint nothin worse then dumb motherfuckers who think they are smart
real spit
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lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.
The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.
Good job at contradicting yourself.
How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.
lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.
Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up: "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly. The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.). The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences. Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."
I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.
And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.
for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.
Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.
right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?
Because of mood not environment. Regardless of whether you're on the way to visit someone in the hospital or sitting on the beach getting a phone call that someone is in the hospital, you're still going to feel the same.
Music tastes change, and its not based on environment. Rap fans in California loved the Death Row sound in the 90s, now they don't. Environment is still the same. If I moved to New York for a year I guarantee you I would still be listening to the same kind of music.
And this discussion still hasn't explained why Infinite won't listen to the song.
environments set moods, u fucking idiot...good lord. man, i tried to be patient with u, but ur just too fucking dumb, bro. do u really not get it? i'm not saying environment is EVERYTHING, but it plays its part. for some people less, for some people more. to flat out ignore this concept and brush it off as inaccurate is just straight up retarded on ur behalf.
i'll try explaining it one more time...just because u live on the west doesnt mean ur gunna listen exclusively to west coast music. but someone who is chillin on the beach will TYPICALLY be more inclined to bump Dogg Pound over Wu-Tang. someone chillin in the subways of NYC will TYPICALLY be more inclined to listen to Mobb Deep over Warren G & Nate Dogg. it's not the same for everyone, but we're speakin in general terms.
Environment can "help" set mood, it doesn't most of the time. I've pointed out like a million examples of this not being the case. Why the fuck would someone at the beach be bumping dpg? Lmao only if it were a beach in Europe. We don't even bump dpg in Cali anymore.
Again how does this determine what Infinite will or won't listen to? It doesn't make any sense. Since you haven't answered this I'm assuming there's no reason at all.
cuz "Dogg Food" has a lot of feel good, west coast music. to me, it's shit i'd bump while smokin blunts on a beach...to someone else, it might be different. to each his own, meaning i may not agree with infinite, but it would be idiotic for me to shoot down his preference and disregard it as senseless. may not be open-minded, but thats what HE likes..every1 is different.
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The trolling rate is at an all-time high.
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The trolling rate is at an all-time high.
no...these muthafuckaz is just dumb as fuck.