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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Thirteen on July 21, 2005, 04:16:56 PM
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Sorry Kain but China has retracted statements about using nuclear weapons.... looks like they had a change of heart.... USA wins again
China Affirms 'No First Use' Nuke Policy By JOE McDONALD, Associated Press Writer
Thu Jul 21, 3:02 PM ET
BEIJING - China will not use nuclear weapons first in a military conflict, the foreign minister said Thursday as he tried to quell an uproar over a general's remark that Beijing might use atomic bombs against U.S. forces in a conflict over Taiwan.
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Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing said China "will not first use nuclear weapons at any time and under any condition," according to the official Xinhua News Agency. Li said China has embraced that stance since it developed nuclear weapons in 1964, and it "will not be changed in the future."
Li made the comments to a group of academics from the United States, Japan and China, Xinhua said.
Beijing has been trying to reassure the United States and its Asian neighbors since Maj. Gen. Zhu Chenghu, a dean at China's National Defense University, told foreign reporters last week that Beijing might use nuclear weapons if U.S. forces attacked China in a conflict over Taiwan.
According to Xinhua, Li said the general's comment was "only his personal view."
The State Department on July 15 criticized the remarks as "highly irresponsible" and asked for Chinese assurance that it did not reflect official thinking.
China claims Taiwan, which split from the mainland in 1949, as part of its territory and has threatened to invade if the self-governing island declares formal independence or puts off talks on unification.
Despite its efforts at diplomatic damage control, Beijing also has reaffirmed its insistence that it will not tolerate formal independence for Taiwan — a step the mainland has said could lead to war.
Beijing said Saturday that China would "never tolerate Taiwan independence" and would not allow "anybody with any means to separate Taiwan from the motherland."
The three-sentence Xinhua report on Li's pledge Thursday did not mention Taiwan.
Li's comments came a day after Beijing angrily rejected a new U.S. government report that says growing Chinese military ambitions could threaten other Asia-Pacific nations.
Li said Wednesday that China is "not a threat to anyone" and is intent on "developing in a peaceful way."
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"developing in a peaceful way."
USA doesnt win...the World does
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lol if they shoot missles at us, we got the patriot missles anyway. now thats gangsta. we could nuke them 10 times and we wouldnt get hit once.
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let's not forget the 7 carrier battle groups we have floating in the ocean, loaded with jets
the numerous bases we have between us and china. loaded with jets
the satillite technology, to see them fueling these massive missles
we'd be pretty fine
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I laughed at the title.
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I laughed at China's feeble attempt to prove their gangsta only to take things back like bitches. Now maybe they can go back to being quiet, unassuming little people who steal americans jobs for lower wages.
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Let's see them invade Taiwan 8)
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I laughed at China's feeble attempt to prove their gangsta only to take things back like bitches. Now maybe they can go back to being quiet, unassuming little people who steal americans jobs for lower wages.
feeble? watch your power deminish as china grows america would lose any war with china, but if it stayed in taiwan i dunno
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feeble? watch your power deminish as china grows america would lose any war with china, but if it stayed in taiwan i dunno
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I laughed at China's feeble attempt to prove their gangsta only to take things back like bitches. Now maybe they can go back to being quiet, unassuming little people who steal americans jobs for lower wages.
lol
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The only people who gonna destroy america are americans.
E.G Like the fuckers that put bad shit in your milk (recombinant bovine growth hormone ( helps cancer grow)) and bribe the the health organisatioins.
Plus any country that fires a nuke is definately gonna get nuked back, its sucide.
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The only people who gonna destroy america are americans.
E.G Like the fuckers that put bad shit in your milk (recombinant bovine growth hormone ( helps cancer grow)) and bribe the the health organisatioins.
Plus any country that fires a nuke is definately gonna get nuked back, its sucide.
lol you heard about that cancer shit in milk too? me and a friend were talking about that the other day
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Im American, but you guys are complete fuckin idiots to think that China wouldnt be a FORCE if we were to go to war with them. I can guarantee you America wants NOTHING to do with a war with China. We might flex our muscles and be "tough" with a country like Iraq. But the US would not attack China unless China attacked us. We couldnt implement a draft strong enough to even equal half of their army. If the US was stupid enough to put ANY men on the ground, theyd be completely demolished there. You guys are like little kids who think theyre daddy is the toughest guy in the world! lol "my dad could beat up your dad!". Until your dad gets his ass knocked out...
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Im American, but you guys are complete fuckin idiots to think that China wouldnt be a FORCE if we were to go to war with them. I can guarantee you America wants NOTHING to do with a war with China. We might flex our muscles and be "tough" with a country like Iraq. But the US would not attack China unless China attacked us. We couldnt implement a draft strong enough to even equal half of their army. If the US was stupid enough to put ANY men on the ground, theyd be completely demolished there. You guys are like little kids who think theyre daddy is the toughest guy in the world! lol "my dad could beat up your dad!". Until your dad gets his ass knocked out...
exactly they've got 1/6th of the worlds population for fucks sake, secreative goverment, strong control over their population and the determination to fight to the end, whereas the only thing america has got going for them is advanced technoligy and could probably disrupt chinas economy but america could never successfully invade china an attempt like that would be suicide
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poeple, please do a search of china's military capabilities. the majority of their equipment is from ww2 handed down to them from the russians, they are equipped with relics.
they have a million man army.
american war ships would sit off the coast of japan, launch jets and bombers and destroy china's navy and airforce with minimal casualties on america's side, crippling the ability of china to engage the war on any other front besides thier homeland. then with months of more missle strikes at key targets, china's army would be a sitting duck. we would have no need to invade. the loss of the war would destroy their economy and china would be set back a few decades
it' a fact we have 3 times china's military power. common sense leads me to believe that china doesn't stand a chance. but of course this is the perfect scenario with a war between just china and the us
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the eu embargo is about to be lifted and there capabilities are ever increasing it won't take them long to surpass america in military and fiscal terms and thus will hold the title of superpower in 30 years or so and america will be knocked down a peg or 2, i'm not saying this is a good thing or anything its just fact, this is one of the oldest empires and they achieved what many other failed to do and that it bring all terrirtories into 1 country they have enough resources to be self sufficient and the same sort of mentality the japs had in ww2. america could weaken them but never defeat them and then china would just come back to bite them in the arse when they are strong enough.
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but if there's a war with china, what about japan, australia, europe etc? wouldn't they help usa? And they got advanced technology 2.
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i'd hope we wouldn't be so foolish as to follow the only allies i can possibly see are japan and possibly australia
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israel ;D
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poeple, please do a search of china's military capabilities. the majority of their equipment is from ww2 handed down to them from the russians, they are equipped with relics.
they have a million man army.
american war ships would sit off the coast of japan, launch jets and bombers and destroy china's navy and airforce with minimal casualties on america's side, crippling the ability of china to engage the war on any other front besides thier homeland. then with months of more missle strikes at key targets, china's army would be a sitting duck. we would have no need to invade. the loss of the war would destroy their economy and china would be set back a few decades
it' a fact we have 3 times china's military power. common sense leads me to believe that china doesn't stand a chance. but of course this is the perfect scenario with a war between just china and the us
how much has our military been depleted just by the war in Iraq? You dont seem to understand how this works. A war isnt going to consist of us SOLELY sitting outside of China in war ships and shooting missles at them. At SOME point, we would have to put troops on the ground. A war in China would go for YEARS. Winning a war isnt just killin a lot of people, its accomplishing your objective which the US wouldnt be able to do...like Vietnam. Who could kill more people doesnt matter. The war would obviously be on their homeland, not ours so obviously we'd cause more destruction. But thats not the point. When the war was over, nothing would change...and nothing would be solved. The American people are a little out of touch when it comes to this stuff. Like i said, they get pumped up too much into thinking we're untouchable. You got idiots like Bush on tv that make u feel tough lol. But if you dont realize how strong China is...just see how our government handles any conflicts with China. Guarentee we'll talk them out and find a "peaceful" solution whereas a country like Iraq we'd just invade recklessly and start shooting...
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i'd hope we wouldn't be so foolish as to follow the only allies i can possibly see are japan and possibly australia
ye that would suck, but I only think Great Britain will help USA. countries like France, Germany and the Netherlands probably will give support troops for the people in the surrounding countries/china
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poeple, please do a search of china's military capabilities. the majority of their equipment is from ww2 handed down to them from the russians, they are equipped with relics.
they have a million man army.
american war ships would sit off the coast of japan, launch jets and bombers and destroy china's navy and airforce with minimal casualties on america's side, crippling the ability of china to engage the war on any other front besides thier homeland. then with months of more missle strikes at key targets, china's army would be a sitting duck. we would have no need to invade. the loss of the war would destroy their economy and china would be set back a few decades
it' a fact we have 3 times china's military power. common sense leads me to believe that china doesn't stand a chance. but of course this is the perfect scenario with a war between just china and the us
how much has our military been depleted just by the war in Iraq? You dont seem to understand how this works. A war isnt going to consist of us SOLELY sitting outside of China in war ships and shooting missles at them. At SOME point, we would have to put troops on the ground. A war in China would go for YEARS. Winning a war isnt just killin a lot of people, its accomplishing your objective which the US wouldnt be able to do...like Vietnam. Who could kill more people doesnt matter. The war would obviously be on their homeland, not ours so obviously we'd cause more destruction. But thats not the point. When the war was over, nothing would change...and nothing would be solved. The American people are a little out of touch when it comes to this stuff. Like i said, they get pumped up too much into thinking we're untouchable. You got idiots like Bush on tv that make u feel tough lol. But if you dont realize how strong China is...just see how our government handles any conflicts with China. Guarentee we'll talk them out and find a "peaceful" solution whereas a country like Iraq we'd just invade recklessly and start shooting...
why would we have to invade on the ground?....doesn't make any sense. vietnam, we were trying to get out troops. iraq, trying to get out insurgents. afghanistan, overthrowing the government. WW2 push back armies... there is not one single reason to put a large number of ground troops in china
we would just have to destroy their abilities to attack us, let asia and europe worry about the 1,000,000 man army. they're not gonna swim to the US to invade us. the aftermath of those attack would set china back a few decades to rebuild what we destroy
all these articles about china even say they aren't a threat NOW but they may be in the FUTURE...
the US military has the capabilities to swage war on 2 more well armed countries and still do well. so unless we start wars with n korea, iran, and china all at once, we have nothing to worry about.... like i said, do some research on the topic
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you think america would ever get the public confidence to wage a stupid war against china? the only reason there are tensions is because america is interfeiring with local politics (taiwan) as usual, just like it did with n ireland when clinton let the shin fein leader jerry adams go to america to raise money for the IRA, PM John Major wouldn't speak to clinton after that for ages, we never needed or wanted americas involvement although i think blair has managed to turn it in his favour a bit, but they should have never stuck their ore in the first place and even spoken to jerry adams. just like america shouldn't get involved over taiwan .