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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 17, 2009, 09:17:22 PM
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i could see this being bettr than tem or mmlp if you cut out a couple songs *like 4or 5. listen to it now if u been sleepin on it since it dropped, that shit bangs hard.
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Never
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No
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Guess im one of the few who actually likes it.
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Its not a horrible album by any means.Theirs just some really terrible songs on it that really bring it down.
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I"ll give it another listen tonight
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be real.....judging by his work since,em should have retired after mmlp
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Tracks I'm still feelin are:
"Never Enough"
"Spend Some Time"
"Mockingbird"
"One Shot 2 Shot"
"Encore"
Still a weak album but it's not terrible. I'll probably bump this again in a couple yrs.
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No, it had 5,6 dope tracks but the rest was bullshit with no concrete theme.
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fuck that hatin on it bcuz of whatever the last guy said about it. I gave Encore anutha lissen last nite (which iz y i made this) and that shit goes hard. It's classic Eminem. There was only like 4 or 5 mediocre/bad tracks on the entire project (including the bonuses, which you could easily substitute the bad tracks off).
"Evil Deedz"
"Rain Man"
"Big Weenie"
"Ass Like That" - i like this track tho
those just fuck up Encore. all wasted beats. i think when people heard tracks like those it just killed the whole "hype" on Eminem which made people not like it like his previous efforts. Shit, even "Just Lose It" isn't so bad (neither is "we made you"). There's more than 12 bangers on Encore, if you paid for it you got your money's worth.
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be real.....judging by his work since,em should have retired after mmlp
Why would you say that?
I think he still had not reached his peek. I think Eminem's greatest album was The Eminem Show. That album is flawless from beginning to end, and he even produced the majority of the tracks on there. Slim Shady LP and MMLP were both great records as well, but they were shorter and reflected an earlier period is his career, I think Eminem Show is when he came full circle.
Then his most successful song ever and the song I believe he will be most remembered for 20 years from now is "Lose Yourself" off the 8 Mile Soundtrack. Also, "8 Mile" rd. is my personal favorite of his. Also, his work on 50's first album and jump starting his career early on can not be forgotten. Then after Get Rich Or Die Trying jumped off Eminem fell off after that and has never been the same since. That's when you really start to notice a difference. But from 1998 to 2003 everything Eminem put out was excellent.
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No, it had 5,6 dope tracks but the rest was bullshit with no concrete theme.
Exactly.
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Listening to it now again. I never knew it was so hated here until relapse. Sure some songs I dont get "Rain Man, Big Weenie, Puke" the rest is sick. Evil Deeds, Never Enough, Just Lose It, Ass Like That, Encore shit theres more!
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Lol how can you only talk about 4 weak tracks what about the steaming pile of shit which is Puke!, my first single is not much better followed closely by Just Lose It.
I am a massive fan of Eminem I think he is arguably the best rapper to ever grace a mic, take note, I said arguably but he is deluding himself if he was ever happy with Encore.
A few really good songs including the bonus tracks but that's about it, no hating involved.
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Encore has always sucked and it will always suck.
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oh and FACK LOL
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I have to disagree that Encore is "the shit", but Yellow Brick Road is one of my favorite Eminem tracks. His flow at parts is crazy.
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Encore is the album that gets hated on because it arrived after a period of completely direct serious music. The majority of The Eminem Show followed this pattern as did the 8 Mile tracks like Lose Yourself or Rabbit Run. Encore continued this but it also had tracks dressed comically with serious undertones (most people don't pick up them.)
Like tracks 1-6 are directly serious, people seem to not mind those.
From track 7 and until about track 14 they become more comical but they're still serious. Puke is about his relationship with Kim. My 1st Single is a play on the traditional single for rap albums. Rain Man is about his critics and his career. Big Weenie continues to address his critics.
The rest of the album goes back to the serious format.
This content is simple to understand. I don't understand how you don't understand what he's spitting about.
I'll say this, it's his worst album. It's a collection of tracks not supported by a conceptual backbone other than it might be his last effort. It's not comical like Em was in SSLP. Most of the album was serious despite the comical added for the middle of the album. There's plenty of tracks that I won't listen to on repeat but that doesn't make them bad tracks. I can see how people find the flow of the album off putting. Transitioning from Mosh to Puke is jolting. The first half of the album is superior to the second half with the exception of Encore. Still a dope album.
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It's not about it not having a concept to it, it's just most of the songs I just shit, pure and simple lol
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Damn, I've always liked puke, maybe because of the line:
"You're a fucking coke head slut I hope you fucking die
I hope you get to hell and Satan sticks a needle in your eye "
That always made me laugh hard :D
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It's not about it not having a concept to it, it's just most of the songs I just shit, pure and simple lol
You just shit? I don't understand that comment and I don't understand how you can hate on this album. Comments like yours convince me that you're not listening to the music and you shouldn't post because you're just going to say the same thing over and over again instead of proving any real information. I understand we like what we like but if you're going to post you might as well elaborate on why you don't like it and stating "I just shit, pure and simple" don't add up.
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be real.....judging by his work since,em should have retired after mmlp
Why would you say that?
I think he still had not reached his peek. I think Eminem's greatest album was The Eminem Show. That album is flawless from beginning to end, and he even produced the majority of the tracks on there. Slim Shady LP and MMLP were both great records as well, but they were shorter and reflected an earlier period is his career, I think Eminem Show is when he came full circle.
Then his most successful song ever and the song I believe he will be most remembered for 20 years from now is "Lose Yourself" off the 8 Mile Soundtrack. Also, "8 Mile" rd. is my personal favorite of his. Also, his work on 50's first album and jump starting his career early on can not be forgotten. Then after Get Rich Or Die Trying jumped off Eminem fell off after that and has never been the same since. That's when you really start to notice a difference. But from 1998 to 2003 everything Eminem put out was excellent.
I agree. While "The Slim Shady LP" will probably always be my personal favorite, I think "The Eminem Show" was his best album. I know a lot of people disagree with me on this, but I think of all his albums "The Eminem Show" showed the most growth as an artist. Where I think Eminem went wrong with "Encore," is it seemed like they were not trying to cover any new ground. (At least not in any way that the fans liked). It seemed like they knew the blue print they used for "The Eminem Show" had been a winning formula, and because of that, they tried to duplicate it. Personally, I don't hate "Encore" but I do think that it's the weakest solo album in his discography right now. There were some songs on there that I still really like and some where I thought that it just really didn't sound like his heart was in it. I actually hated the first single "Just Lose It," because it seemed so derivative of every other first single he had. But there were a lot of other songs like "Spend Some Time," and "Never Enough" that I thought were real tight tracks.
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Encore gets hated on way to much. I'll agree that it is his worst album, but it is not a poor or pointless album. There's an abundance of technical originality on that album, as well as some thematic originality. Granted, there are several quite annoying tracks on it, but most of them have some redeeming qualities: My First Single has that insane Justin & Britney verse, Big Weenie is fuckin' hilarious and I'll never get why Rain Man is hated on - that is a killer track in every way.
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Encore is his worst album.
i have already said in other threads that it gets too much hate, but it's because it is an average album; but compared to his great shit, this album looks TERRIBLE.
i saw you threw this in the "Classic Albums that you don't think are classic" thread as a "heavily slept on album".
are you trying to imply that this is somewhere near a classic album?!? :laugh:
debating whether it is an average album or not is a whole argument itself. :laugh:
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Encore is HORRIBLE in every sense. Any sane hiphop head will know this. Sure you'll get a few cats who like it but in general the album is horrible. backstory or concepts dont matter, the shit is weak, has no replay value, the lyrics are terrible in general, the music is wack, this album will always be known as one of the worst released albums by a major cat.
People who like this album im convinced will like anything eminem drops regardless because the album is a joke. Its that bad. 2-3 decent songs on the whole album. Pretty much sums it all up.
Only hardcore eminem fans will tell you they like this and i'll usually just laugh. Most cats who understand music and hiphop know this shit is garbage on every level. Even relapse with alot of dodgy moments is still a better album than encore.
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Fav track.....Rainman
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Fav track.....Rainman
favorite beat, probably.
but lyrically that track is awful.
his flow is SICK though lol.
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Fav track.....Rainman
favorite beat, probably.
but lyrically that track is awful.
his flow is SICK though lol.
8) "I killed Superman, I killed Super----Man"
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I guess we'll be fighting til tha end of time with this album... i fuck wit it, and 4 million other people fuck with it too. it's not like they didn't hear the album before they brought it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlyxP4gN2jw
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I guess we'll be fighting til tha end of time with this album... i fuck wit it, and 4 million other people fuck with it too. it's not like they didn't hear the album before they brought it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlyxP4gN2jw
I actually bought it before I heard it :D I had only heard few singles and bought it bcause it didn't cost that much back then. A dissapointing album.
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since when did sales represent the quality of an album... ::)
Dudes name is eminem. He could fart, shit speak of nothing and make a wack album and it would have wnt multiplatinum....oh wait... ;)
Eminem will sell regardless of the quality of his music, encore pretty much sums that up. I copped encore. I def dont fuck with the album though.
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People have to realize that everyone has an opinion, & just because you hate it dont mean its right. This whole argument that "Any sane hiphop head will know this. " is bullshit, basically an elite-is opinion, that some how because you think its crap means it is crap.
The fact is I know many people who either like rap or don't, who like this album, hell people who still listen to "Just Lose It" & "Ass Like That" to this very day! If you don't like it thats cool no problem thats your opinion. My opinion is it isn't a bad album, I've heard plenty of worse albums that Encore. Theres a few lame songs, but overall theres enough quality on there to warrant my purchase of it IMO. Heres my own personal break down of what I like on it
Great songs
2. "Evil Deeds" Dr. Dre 4:20
3. "Never Enough" (feat. Nate Dogg, 50 Cent) Dr. Dre, Mike Elizondo 2:40
4. "Yellow Brick Road" Eminem, Luis Resto 5:46
5. "Like Toy Soldiers" Eminem, Luis Resto 4:57
13. "Just Lose It" Dr. Dre, Mike Elizondo 4:09
14. "Ass Like That" Dr. Dre, Mike Elizondo 4:26
16. "Mockingbird" Eminem, Luis Resto 4:11
20. "Encore/Curtains Down" (feat. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent) Dr. Dre, Mark Batson 5:48
Average but listenable songs
6. "Mosh" Dr. Dre, Mark Batson 5:18
15. "Spend Some Time" (feat. Obie Trice, Stat Quo, 50 Cent) Eminem, Luis Resto 5:11
17. "Crazy in Love" Eminem, Luis Resto 4:02
18. "One Shot 2 Shot" (feat. D12) Eminem, Luis Resto 4:27
Songs I don't like
7. "Puke" Eminem, Luis Resto 4:08
8. "My 1st Single" Eminem, Luis Resto 5:03
10. "Rain Man" Dr. Dre 5:14
11. "Big Weenie" Dr. Dre 4:27
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Just lose it and ass like that are terrible terrible songs possibly the two worst songs in his entire career.
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Awful songs:
Puke
My 1st Single
Rain Man
Big Weenie
Just Lose It
Ass Like That
None of those songs are better than maybe a 3/10....
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Rain Man is easily one of Em's best songs.
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Change I to are....the world of typos ;D
This verse is the second one from Big Weenie :o it's got it all don't you think lol
Alright now I, I just flubbed a line
I was going to say something extremely important
But I forgot who or what it was, I fucked up
Psych, I'm kidding again you idiot, no I didn't
That's just what you wanted to hear from me
Is that I fucked up ain't it?
But I can bust one take without lookin' at no paper
It doesn't take a bunch of takes
Or me to stand here in this booth all day
For me to say the truth, ok?
You're droolin, you have tooth decay
Your mouth is open, you're disgusting
What the fuck you eat for lunch
A bunch of sweets or something, what?
You munch a bunch of Crunch 'N Munch?
Your tooth is rotten to the gum
Your breath stinks, wanna chew some gum?
Yes I do sir, what am I on?
You sir are on chew syrum
Marshall I'm so jealous of you
Please say you won't tell nobody
I'd be so embarrassed, I'm just absolutely terrified
That someone's gonna find out why I'm saying
All these terrible, evil and awful mean things
It's my own insecurity!
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Fav track.....Rainman
favorite beat, probably.
but lyrically that track is awful.
his flow is SICK though lol.
Action! made a good post about the lyrics of rainman and how it completely went over peoples heads, makes you think about the track in a different way
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Rain Man is such a dope track. Clever as hell. Went over most people's heads.
how so?
In my experience when talking to people about the song they dismiss it as "that comical track where he disses Christopher Reeves." The song is so much more then that. It's basically Em's summary of his current career and his rebuttal to the critics.
Rebuttal to critics:
You find me offensive? I find you offensive
For finding me offensive
Hence if I should draw a line on any fences
If so to what extense if
Any, should I go? 'Cause it's getting expensive
Being on the other side of the courtroom on the defensive
They say that I cause extensive
Psychological nerve damage to the brain when I go to lengths this,
Far at other people's expenses
I say your all just too god damn sensitive
It's censorship
And it's down right blasphemous
Listen to shit now cause I won't stand for this
Rebuttal against social conservatives:
Now in the Bible it says
Thou shalt not watch two lesbians in bed,
Have homosexual sex
Unless of course you were given the consent to join in
Then of course, it's intercourse
And it's bi-sexual sex
Which isn't as bad, as long as you show some remorse for your actions
Either before, during or after performing the act of that which
Is normally referred to have such, more commonly known phrases
That are more used by today's kids
In a more derogatory way but
Who's to say, what's fair to say, and what not to say?
Points out the double standard if not the hypocrisy of his critics:
Let's ask Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre? (What up?)
I gotta question if I may? (Yeah)
Is it gay to play Putt-Putt golf with a friend (Yeah)
And watch his butt-butt when he tees off? (Yeah)
But, but! I ain't done yet
In football the quarterback yells out hutt-hutt
While he reaches in another grown man's ass
Grabs on his nuts but just what if
It was never meant it was just an accident
But he tripped, fell, slipped and his penis went in
His teeny tiny little round hiney but he didn't mean it
But his little weenie flinched just a little bit
And I don't mean to go in into any more details but
What if he pictured it as a females butt?
Is that gay? I just need to clear things up
Till then I'll just walk around with a manly strut because...
Career reflection:
Anyway, anyway I don't know how else to put it
This is the only thing that I'm good at
Another rebuttal to critic while admitting his product isn't the same:
And I don't gotta make no god damn sense
I just did a whole song and I didn't say shit
Rain Man is for all the listeners complaining about his content. they bitch that he's not saying something but he is saying something and they totally miss it.
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How can that have gone over anyones heads? I know what it meant, the lyrical content and the rhymes were complete shit. The first verse was alright but after that it just descends into mindless childish trash. If it wasn't for the fact that Eminem had 3 fantastic albums before this, then Eminem would not have lasted long. The album was horrible and as for the line at the end, he didn't say shit, or certainly nothing that was worth hearing anyway. You could also say that in knowing that the line laughs at those who will swallow this crap and proclaim it to be something great.
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Change I to are....the world of typos ;D
This verse is the second one from Big Weenie :o it's got it all don't you think lol
Alright now I, I just flubbed a line
I was going to say something extremely important
But I forgot who or what it was, I fucked up
Psych, I'm kidding again you idiot, no I didn't
That's just what you wanted to hear from me
Is that I fucked up ain't it?
But I can bust one take without lookin' at no paper
It doesn't take a bunch of takes
Or me to stand here in this booth all day
For me to say the truth, ok?
You're droolin, you have tooth decay
Your mouth is open, you're disgusting
What the fuck you eat for lunch
A bunch of sweets or something, what?
You munch a bunch of Crunch 'N Munch?
Your tooth is rotten to the gum
Your breath stinks, wanna chew some gum?
Yes I do sir, what am I on?
You sir are on chew syrum
Marshall I'm so jealous of you
Please say you won't tell nobody
I'd be so embarrassed, I'm just absolutely terrified
That someone's gonna find out why I'm saying
All these terrible, evil and awful mean things
It's my own insecurity!
i love that verse! ;D 8)
the flow is absurd! :o
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How can that have gone over anyones heads? I know what it meant, the lyrical content and the rhymes were complete shit. The first verse was alright but after that it just descends into mindless childish trash. If it wasn't for the fact that Eminem had 3 fantastic albums before this, then Eminem would not have lasted long. The album was horrible and as for the line at the end, he didn't say shit, or certainly nothing that was worth hearing anyway. You could also say that in knowing that the line laughs at those who will swallow this crap and proclaim it to be something great.
i can't c how anybody can call "Encore" that bad. It may not be 'that' shit for you, but it goes hard. like the homie said b4, after 8 mile came out ppl were expecting something different/more mature but they got the same Eminem, just better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCUOmFSu4FM
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How can that have gone over anyones heads? I know what it meant, the lyrical content and the rhymes were complete shit. The first verse was alright but after that it just descends into mindless childish trash. If it wasn't for the fact that Eminem had 3 fantastic albums before this, then Eminem would not have lasted long. The album was horrible and as for the line at the end, he didn't say shit, or certainly nothing that was worth hearing anyway. You could also say that in knowing that the line laughs at those who will swallow this crap and proclaim it to be something great.
i can't c how anybody can call "Encore" that bad. It may not be 'that' shit for you, but it goes hard. like the homie said b4, after 8 mile came out ppl were expecting something different/more mature but they got the same Eminem, just better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCUOmFSu4FM
do you seriously think Encore >>> all his albums before? ???
i thought you were trying to just make the argument it was a good album; that was at least acceptable lol. :P
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How can that have gone over anyones heads? I know what it meant, the lyrical content and the rhymes were complete shit. The first verse was alright but after that it just descends into mindless childish trash. If it wasn't for the fact that Eminem had 3 fantastic albums before this, then Eminem would not have lasted long. The album was horrible and as for the line at the end, he didn't say shit, or certainly nothing that was worth hearing anyway. You could also say that in knowing that the line laughs at those who will swallow this crap and proclaim it to be something great.
i can't c how anybody can call "Encore" that bad. It may not be 'that' shit for you, but it goes hard. like the homie said b4, after 8 mile came out ppl were expecting something different/more mature but they got the same Eminem, just better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCUOmFSu4FM
I totally agree with you. The flow and wordplay was above par and Encore had some bangin' ass beats on it. Yellow Brick Road was personally my favorite. The only flaw that song had was it didn't have a video to go with it. Even My First Single does it for me even though he's playing alot in the song because of that damn wordplay even when he ain't saying much of anything. By the way, did anybody hear Redman murder that beat on his Live From the Bricks mixtape-- one word FIRE!
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How can that have gone over anyones heads? I know what it meant, the lyrical content and the rhymes were complete shit. The first verse was alright but after that it just descends into mindless childish trash. If it wasn't for the fact that Eminem had 3 fantastic albums before this, then Eminem would not have lasted long. The album was horrible and as for the line at the end, he didn't say shit, or certainly nothing that was worth hearing anyway. You could also say that in knowing that the line laughs at those who will swallow this crap and proclaim it to be something great.
I guess we just don't agree on a lot. I don't think the rhymes are complete shit. What makes them complete shit? What do you mean worth hearing? How the hell do you decide what artist should spit about? What other artist does material like this?
Your legacy comment is moot. It's true for any artist and isn't particular just to Eminem.
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Encore is a wack album but it's getting too much hate from some people. The saddest thing is, it's equal to most of the mainstream albums that drop these days.
Dope tracks: Evil Deeds, Never Enough, Yellow Brick Road, Like Toy Soldiers, Mosh, Rain Man, Spend Some Time, Mockingbird and Encore. That's 9 out of 16 (not counting the skits). Not to mention the 3 bonus tracks.
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The first verse on my first single was actually dope but... after that it's just wack rhymes in the song
Erra Erra Eric swallowed some generic sleeping pills
And woke up in bed next to his best friend Derick bare naked
chicka chicka chicka ..
Janean just turned 16 and used a fake id
To sneak in V.I.P. to see R. Kelly
Hehehehehe, to be so young and naive
Oh what I wouldn't give to live so Kim and care free
Paris and Nikki's parents must be so tickled to cherish
Every picture with their kids with hickeys all over their necks
Hickory Dickory Dirk Diggler
Look at me work wizardry with these words
Am I a jerk or just jerk chicken
Or Chicka chicka chicka chicka jer jer jerkin the chain
22 jerks and a jerk circle
Or is it a circle jerk or wait a minute
What am I sayin, allow me to run it back and rewind it
rrrbb lemme ask you again
Am I just jerkin the chain
Am I bizerk or insane
Or am I just one of them damn amateurs
Workin the damn camera filmin one of them
Paris Hilton home made pornos
Who keeps tiltin the lens at an angle
Chicka Chicka
Just recently somebody just discovered
Britney and Justin videotapes of them fuckin
When they were just mouseketeers in the Mickey Mouse club
And dusted them and went straight to The Source with them
Cause they coulda sworn someone said Nuh-
And then tried to erase and record over it
But if you listen close enough to it you can hear the
Ga-Uh and then the come to find out it was Justin
Sayin 'I'm done-uh!' Come on
And this was suppose to be
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How can that have gone over anyones heads? I know what it meant, the lyrical content and the rhymes were complete shit. The first verse was alright but after that it just descends into mindless childish trash. If it wasn't for the fact that Eminem had 3 fantastic albums before this, then Eminem would not have lasted long. The album was horrible and as for the line at the end, he didn't say shit, or certainly nothing that was worth hearing anyway. You could also say that in knowing that the line laughs at those who will swallow this crap and proclaim it to be something great.
i can't c how anybody can call "Encore" that bad. It may not be 'that' shit for you, but it goes hard. like the homie said b4, after 8 mile came out ppl were expecting something different/more mature but they got the same Eminem, just better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCUOmFSu4FM
do you seriously think Encore >>> all his albums before? ???
i thought you were trying to just make the argument it was a good album; that was at least acceptable lol. :P
You must have 1 fucked up brain processing process. where and when do i ever say tha shit you always put out there. stop tryna make me look like a lame, it won't happen
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but they got the same, just better
I think this bit leads one to believe that you think Encore was superior then his past material.
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How can that have gone over anyones heads? I know what it meant, the lyrical content and the rhymes were complete shit. The first verse was alright but after that it just descends into mindless childish trash. If it wasn't for the fact that Eminem had 3 fantastic albums before this, then Eminem would not have lasted long. The album was horrible and as for the line at the end, he didn't say shit, or certainly nothing that was worth hearing anyway. You could also say that in knowing that the line laughs at those who will swallow this crap and proclaim it to be something great.
I guess we just don't agree on a lot. I don't think the rhymes are complete shit. What makes them complete shit? What do you mean worth hearing? How the hell do you decide what artist should spit about? What other artist does material like this?
Your legacy comment is moot. It's true for any artist and isn't particular just to Eminem.
Again it wasn't anything to do with the concept or the content matter, what sucks is the weak rhymes and the mindless bordering on just child like lyrics. It wasn't clever, it wasn't deep, it wasn't witty, the rhymes were so base level that it literally sounded like something which would be concocted from just fucking around in the studio, not something which should find it's way onto the record shelves.
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but they got the same, just better
I think this bit leads one to believe that you think Encore was superior then his past material.
lol, thats exactly what i read & what i got from that.
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How can that have gone over anyones heads? I know what it meant, the lyrical content and the rhymes were complete shit. The first verse was alright but after that it just descends into mindless childish trash. If it wasn't for the fact that Eminem had 3 fantastic albums before this, then Eminem would not have lasted long. The album was horrible and as for the line at the end, he didn't say shit, or certainly nothing that was worth hearing anyway. You could also say that in knowing that the line laughs at those who will swallow this crap and proclaim it to be something great.
I guess we just don't agree on a lot. I don't think the rhymes are complete shit. What makes them complete shit? What do you mean worth hearing? How the hell do you decide what artist should spit about? What other artist does material like this?
Your legacy comment is moot. It's true for any artist and isn't particular just to Eminem.
Again it wasn't anything to do with the concept or the content matter, what sucks is the weak rhymes and the mindless bordering on just child like lyrics. It wasn't clever, it wasn't deep, it wasn't witty, the rhymes were so base level that it literally sounded like something which would be concocted from just fucking around in the studio, not something which should find it's way onto the record shelves.
I heard a large part of the album was rushed due the leak of those 4-6 tracks that made Straight From the Lab ep (3 of which were the bonus cuts). Basically, I agree with everyone that claims by this time he told the majority of his life story and wasn't spitting the same as he used to. I don't think that's bad. It's just how it is.
While I agree that they're not deep reflecting, soul searching lyrics they're not about nothing which a lot of the critics claim. Each song fulfills it's purpose with it's lyrics. How is that bad? I don't think it is. I don't believe that every song has to be a in your face, soul touching. Em kept being honest and telling his story, what more do you want?
If this is Em's worst effort and it's better then most albums then it's not bad or horrific. It's a disappointing release from Em but it's still good.
Answer this: who's album was released on a major commercial level that is equal to this?
Note: I can think of a few artist but I'm interested in your opinion.
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Interesting, I didn't know those bonus tracks were leaked tracks presumably from what would have been on the album. It would make sense, after the first few songs, the album just plummets downwards. Again though I didn't just say deep, I said it wasn't witty, nothing seemed to be thought out, there was nothing to do it. just fucking around in the studio like I said lol.
Now as for your question, what time frame are you talking about?
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From the time Encore was released (2004) until today (2009).
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Copy and pasting a post i made a month or so back on this album...since its all about opinions and all and how people can like this album and all... ::) heres my quick take on why i cant get into this album. Its just not music of any quality for me.
1. Evil Deeds -decent, nice beat but no replay value
2. Never Enough - 50 came great, outshone eminem, one of the better tracks but again, something missing.
3. Yellow Brick Road decent track - rigid feeling but okay
4. Like Toy Soldiers - amazingly rigid, terrible beat and eminem stutters through his flow. Not for me, nice message but so boring and rigid.
5. Mosh - this supposed to be music?
6. Puke - this called fucking music? and move the fuck on, nobody gives a shit
7. My First Single - again..this supposed to be hiphop?
8. Rain Man nice beat, dont know why they went with the track the way they did though...
9. Big Weenie - the beat was a knock off old dre beat made again pretty much for somereason...and the end product was wack, flowing to flow, nothing to say...you just did two whole songs and u never said shit...and what? am i supposed to be impressed? you a major cat, cats pay for your shit more than download it and u drop this...
10. Just Lose It - again...this supposed to be music?
11. Ass Like That -this could have been used on another artist better...not for eminem, wack
12. Spend Some Time - i cant believe this gets love from shady record fans, this is so wack. The most rigid song ever, the beat is amateur at best, this aint the type of song that needs a beat like this!!
13. Mockingbird - so we heard you love your daughter...take 1, take 2, take 3, take 4...we get the point...decent track though, but i mean...i cant hate for making a track about his daughter no matter how many times he does it but that dont mean it doesnt get boring
14. Crazy In Love - MOVE THE FUCK ON LOL
15. One Shot 2 Shot - fight music is the best d12 eminem joint imo or one of the best...this was weak
16. Encore - again rigid, horrible beat for dre, where was the funk, zero funk in a dre beat? lol...shocking...one of the worst and most forced dre and eminem collabs ever...possibly the most forced...and 50 on it just to be on it too...
That pretty much sums it up for me...maybe 2-3 decent tracks...
HORRIBLE album!
pz
Anyway i feel ive pretty much said i piece in this thread as i y'all can see! haha, carry on with the encore being the 'shit' talk... :-X
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Jay-Z - American Gangster
Roots - Tipping Point
Lupe Fiasco - The Cool
Joe Budden - Padded Room
Chamillionaire - Ultimate Victory
AZ - A.W.O.L
T.I. - Paper Trail
Royce Da 5'9 - Death Is Certain
Kanye West - The College Dropout
Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Volume 2
Game - The Documentary
Those are off the top of my head, I am sure there are many others but I haven't listened to that many albums in recent years. The main reason is because there are so many underwhelming album releass.
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Jay-Z - American Gangster
Roots - Tipping Point
Lupe Fiasco - The Cool
Joe Budden - Padded Room
Chamillionaire - Ultimate Victory
AZ - A.W.O.L
T.I. - Paper Trail
Royce Da 5'9 - Death Is Certain
Kanye West - The College Dropout
Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Volume 2
Game - The Documentary
Those are off the top of my head, I am sure there are many others but I haven't listened to that many albums in recent years. The main reason is because there are so many underwhelming album releass.
those are some great/personal classic albums right there lol.
Immortal's "The 3rd World" was SICK! :o
it's a must hear. 8)
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be real.....judging by his work since,em should have retired after mmlp
Why would you say that?
I think he still had not reached his peek. I think Eminem's greatest album was The Eminem Show. That album is flawless from beginning to end, and he even produced the majority of the tracks on there. Slim Shady LP and MMLP were both great records as well, but they were shorter and reflected an earlier period is his career, I think Eminem Show is when he came full circle.
Then his most successful song ever and the song I believe he will be most remembered for 20 years from now is "Lose Yourself" off the 8 Mile Soundtrack. Also, "8 Mile" rd. is my personal favorite of his. Also, his work on 50's first album and jump starting his career early on can not be forgotten. Then after Get Rich Or Die Trying jumped off Eminem fell off after that and has never been the same since. That's when you really start to notice a difference. But from 1998 to 2003 everything Eminem put out was excellent.
I agree.. I really thought Em really upped his game on TES. To me it's his best album. MMLP is 2nd in my book. To me I could never get into SSLP and don't know what everyone sees in it when they say it's so great and it's his best..
In order of what I think is his best.
TES
MMLP
Relapse
SSLP
Infinite
Greatest Hits
ALL mixtapes
dirt under his shoes
smelly underwear
Encore..
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^personally & i would think the general public would say;
MMLP = SSLP > TES > Relapse >>> Encore.
but TES was a great album to me, but MMLP & SSLP are two REAL classic albums to me.
two of the best albums ever. 8)
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^personally & i would think the general public would say;
MMLP = SSLP > TES > Relapse >>> Encore.
but TES was a great album to me, but MMLP & SSLP are two REAL classic albums to me.
two of the best albums ever. 8)
I'm sure the general public would say... but like I said.. that's how (I)(ME)(LITTLE OLD ME) Rate them.
I've just never been able to get into SSLP as a whole.. not that there ain't good tracks on it... just from start to finish I can't listen to it. Where as MMLP & TES.. both amazing albums IMO and I bump them on the regular.. STILL.
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^personally & i would think the general public would say;
MMLP = SSLP > TES > Relapse >>> Encore.
but TES was a great album to me, but MMLP & SSLP are two REAL classic albums to me.
two of the best albums ever. 8)
both amazing albums IMO and I bump them on the regular.. STILL.
word. 8)
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Jay-Z - American Gangster
Roots - Tipping Point
Lupe Fiasco - The Cool
Joe Budden - Padded Room
Chamillionaire - Ultimate Victory
AZ - A.W.O.L
T.I. - Paper Trail
Royce Da 5'9 - Death Is Certain
Kanye West - The College Dropout
Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Volume 2
Game - The Documentary
Those are off the top of my head, I am sure there are many others but I haven't listened to that many albums in recent years. The main reason is because there are so many underwhelming album releass.
Okay, I agree all dope albums better than Encore. Now, I'm going to remove those that aren't commercially popular, that is, mainstream. I ain't hating with this process because Tech is one of my favorite artists, Rev. Vol. 2 is a personal favorite.
Jay-Z - American Gangster
Roots - Tipping Point
Lupe Fiasco - The Cool
T.I. - Paper Trail
Kanye West - The College Dropout
Game - The Documentary
Chamillionaire - Ultimate Victory
We're left with 7 albums, 7 artists.
My only point is that while Encore was a mediocre album for Eminem it wasn't exactly horrible. Understandably, a huge disappointment for a lot of people's rational expectations but still doesn't compute to being a horrible album as in a piece of shit that is complete trash and deserves to get ragged on.
Okay, I'm done voicing my opinion.
Here's my final word:
I like Encore, I like relapse, I like Kingdom Come. Eh, I really don't care. I'm happy with'em.
hate that shit, the more hate the artist gets more often the better they get
at the end of the day I like what I like, no logic can really explain why so dueces to this thread
props to those that contributed i ain't posting in this shit again
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^personally & i would think the general public would say;
MMLP = SSLP > TES > Relapse >>> Encore.
Yeah, pretty much, except I think that this might be even more correct:
MMLP = SSLP > TES = Relapse >>> Encore
On a strictly personal level I'd rank like like this:
SSLP > MMLP = Relapse > TES > Encore
With not THAT much setting the albums apart. I don't think any of his albums are true classics and I think Encore is a solid album.
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^that's all good.
Relapse was dope album, can't blame you for putting it up with TES.
i thought TES was a lot better, but fuck my opinon lol.
but point is their all better than Encore lol.
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be real.....judging by his work since,em should have retired after mmlp
Why would you say that?
I think he still had not reached his peek. I think Eminem's greatest album was The Eminem Show. That album is flawless from beginning to end, and he even produced the majority of the tracks on there. Slim Shady LP and MMLP were both great records as well, but they were shorter and reflected an earlier period is his career, I think Eminem Show is when he came full circle.
Then his most successful song ever and the song I believe he will be most remembered for 20 years from now is "Lose Yourself" off the 8 Mile Soundtrack. Also, "8 Mile" rd. is my personal favorite of his. Also, his work on 50's first album and jump starting his career early on can not be forgotten. Then after Get Rich Or Die Trying jumped off Eminem fell off after that and has never been the same since. That's when you really start to notice a difference. But from 1998 to 2003 everything Eminem put out was excellent.
I agree.. I really thought Em really upped his game on TES. To me it's his best album. MMLP is 2nd in my book. To me I could never get into SSLP and don't know what everyone sees in it when they say it's so great and it's his best..
In order of what I think is his best.
TES
MMLP
Relapse
SSLP
Infinite
Greatest Hits
ALL mixtapes
dirt under his shoes
smelly underwear
Encore..
i can see why you guys think that Eminem did a step forward with The Eminem Show, but i disagree.
he just changed his approach, in compared to the first two albums.
to me, The Marshall Mathers LP is his best work, as it perfected what the Slim Shady LP started (although the slim shady character was made earlier)
to me The Eminem Show already indicated that Eminem was past his peak ( not based on the direction!); the album is still alright though.
^that's all good.
Relapse was dope album, can't blame you for putting it up with TES.
i thought TES was a lot better, but fuck my opinon lol.
but point is their all better than Encore lol.
true, i prefer Relapse over Encore ( overall), as the weaker tracks of Encore really drag it down.
not to mention that the better tracks off Relapse top the better tracks from Encore.
but both albums are from the same level, as they have lots of filler.
plus they both showcase that Eminem can do much better
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i could see this being bettr than tem or mmlp if you cut out a couple songs *like 4or 5. listen to it now if u been sleepin on it since it dropped, that shit bangs hard.
[i :grumpy:
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saying encore is better than any of Em's previous albums is like saying Nastradamus is better than Illmatic or It Was Written
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i could see this being bettr than tem or mmlp if you cut out a couple songs *like 4or 5. listen to it now if u been sleepin on it since it dropped, that shit bangs hard.
Damn homie u just can't be putting up any old bullshit up against REAL CLASSIC ALBUMS HOMES....this lp.was his WORST of alll time cuzz(EVEN THOUGH WHITE AMERICA GAVE HIM A GRAMMY FOR THIS BULLSHIT)...what u hearing dude...how dare u!!!
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be real.....judging by his work since,em should have retired after mmlp
thank u.
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although this album includes one of the worst eminem track "big weenie" and mostly full of average songs, it has a few tracks that we can call "eminem classics" like;
evil deeds
mockingbird
one last time
we as americans
love you more
and this album is the first eminem album that has no bass brothers productions
he had a new co-producer and musician named "luis resto" and there was more dre productions then last eminem albums
actually thats why he couldnt do better then "eminem show".
he spoiled the chemistry.
now he is working with interesting names with their productions that can't fit eminem's style and however eminem is only yelling for long time
if u look at his last albums and compare, yeah encore is the shit!!!!
thats the last good thing he did for "one last time"
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I never liked Encore...I always thought MMLP was his best work but now I think TES was just as good if not better
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I never liked Encore...I always thought MMLP was his best work but now I think TES was just as good if not better
SSLP >
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I never liked Encore...I always thought MMLP was his best work but now I think TES was just as good if not better
SSLP >
Production except for the Dre tracks was off
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he was lyrically a BEAST on Infinite. He never rhymed like that again.
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"Encore" was a good album...definitely underrated, but not one of his bests.
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I never liked Encore...I always thought MMLP was his best work but now I think TES was just as good if not better
SSLP >
Production except for the Dre tracks was off
every record is fire :grumpy: :eh: