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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Elano on January 14, 2009, 12:58:26 AM
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Manchester City blew the January transfer window wide open last night when they launched a world-record bid of €100 million (£91 million) for Kaká, the AC Milan forward.
Officials from the Barclays Premier League club met their counterparts from the Serie A team in Milan yesterday and, according to reports, were armed with a salary offer from Sheikh Mansour, their billionaire owner from Abu Dhabi, that would result in the 2007 Fifa World Player of the Year earning £13.6 million a year after tax.
On a day of frantic transfer activity, Harry Redknapp, the Tottenham Hotspur manager, was also spotted at the San Siro watching Adriano, Inter Milan’s out-of-favour striker, in a 3-1 Coppa Italia victory over Genoa.
Tottenham are prepared to offer Gareth Bale as part of any deal, which could pave the way for Inter to let Adriano go and allow them to pursue their interest in signing Carlos Tévez, the Argentina forward, from Manchester United.
Garry Cook, the City chief executive, met Ariedo Braida, the Milan sporting director, and Adriano Galliani, the Italian club’s executive vicepresident, to discuss the offer for Kaká. Two agents were also present: Ernesto Bronzetti, who advises Milan on transfer activity, and Kia Joorabchian, who has strong links with Brazilian players and acted on behalf of City in the deals that brought Robinho — a British-record signing at £34.2 million — and Jô to the City of Manchester Stadium last summer. Kaká’s agent, Gaetano Paolillo, and the player’s father, who is involved in his son’s business affairs, were not present.
Milan tried to explain the arrival of the City delegation by saying they were there to discuss Dida, the 35-year-old Brazil goalkeeper, but it is unlikely that it would take the top brass of both clubs to discuss the transfer of an ageing reserve. Silvio Berlusconi, the Milan owner, said: “I don’t know anything about any offer, but I do hope Kaká is not for sale and that he stays.”
Unlike Juventus, who parted with Zinédine Zidane for a world-record fee of £48 million in 2001, Milan have never sold any of their star players while still in their prime. Moving Kaká, 26, would be quite a departure and a blow to the ego of Berlusconi, Italy’s Prime Minister and one of the wealthiest men in Europe. However, when faced with Sheikh Mansour’s chequebook and an offer that would just about cover Milan’s wage bill for an entire season, even an ego as big as Berlusconi’s might be ready to concede.
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
but remember.....everytime you make fuel ;D
It'll be nice to know that every gallon of petrol a Manchester United fan buys is going into our transfer kitty."
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00153/Noel_Gallagher_153238a.jpg)
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
but remember.....everytime you make fuel ;D
It'll be nice to know that every gallon of petrol a Manchester United fan buys is going into our transfer kitty."
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00153/Noel_Gallagher_153238a.jpg)
Maybe so but the oil is gonna run out .
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
but remember.....everytime you make fuel ;D
It'll be nice to know that every gallon of petrol a Manchester United fan buys is going into our transfer kitty."
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00153/Noel_Gallagher_153238a.jpg)
Maybe so but the oil is gonna run out .
c'mon,for once don't you like to have a great derby with the City full of great players ?
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Not happening.
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Not happening.
non ne sarei cosi sicuro.
io spero di no,perchè con quei soldi si rifanno mezza squadra
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
but remember.....everytime you make fuel ;D
It'll be nice to know that every gallon of petrol a Manchester United fan buys is going into our transfer kitty."
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00153/Noel_Gallagher_153238a.jpg)
Maybe so but the oil is gonna run out .
c'mon,for once don't you like to have a great derby with the City full of great players ?
Not really i remember when we got whopped 5-1 by them, i prefer reminding them they have not won a trophy in over 30 years.
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
but remember.....everytime you make fuel ;D
It'll be nice to know that every gallon of petrol a Manchester United fan buys is going into our transfer kitty."
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00153/Noel_Gallagher_153238a.jpg)
Maybe so but the oil is gonna run out .
c'mon,for once don't you like to have a great derby with the City full of great players ?
Not really i remember when we got whopped 5-1 by them, i prefer reminding them they have not won a trophy in over 30 years.
a real derby must be between two strong teams imo
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
but remember.....everytime you make fuel ;D
It'll be nice to know that every gallon of petrol a Manchester United fan buys is going into our transfer kitty."
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00153/Noel_Gallagher_153238a.jpg)
Maybe so but the oil is gonna run out .
c'mon,for once don't you like to have a great derby with the City full of great players ?
Not really i remember when we got whopped 5-1 by them, i prefer reminding them they have not won a trophy in over 30 years.
a real derby must be between two strong teams imo
I see what you are saying but spurs and arsenal have had some great matches these last few years and arseanl are always higher than spurs
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
but remember.....everytime you make fuel ;D
It'll be nice to know that every gallon of petrol a Manchester United fan buys is going into our transfer kitty."
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00153/Noel_Gallagher_153238a.jpg)
Maybe so but the oil is gonna run out .
c'mon,for once don't you like to have a great derby with the City full of great players ?
Not really i remember when we got whopped 5-1 by them, i prefer reminding them they have not won a trophy in over 30 years.
a real derby must be between two strong teams imo
I see what you are saying but spurs and arsenal have had some great matches these last few years and arseanl are always higher than spurs
spurs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>city
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
but remember.....everytime you make fuel ;D
It'll be nice to know that every gallon of petrol a Manchester United fan buys is going into our transfer kitty."
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00153/Noel_Gallagher_153238a.jpg)
Maybe so but the oil is gonna run out .
c'mon,for once don't you like to have a great derby with the City full of great players ?
Not really i remember when we got whopped 5-1 by them, i prefer reminding them they have not won a trophy in over 30 years.
a real derby must be between two strong teams imo
I see what you are saying but spurs and arsenal have had some great matches these last few years and arseanl are always higher than spurs
spurs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>city
probably not at the mo unfortunatly
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fucking idiots throwing around with ridiculous amounts of money.
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Kuruption u sad RAG Had a bit more respect for u, but not bin on here 4 a while.
Stop getting jealous just because u lot cant afford Hermon Munster AKA Teves.
WILL BUY YA CLUB AND BURN IT DOWN, WILL BUY YA CLUB AND BURN IT DOWN
M.C.F.C FOOTBALL KILLERS muhahahaha
All this hate by the media is making me laugh, do u think if United had the money they would not want to buy him????
United have bin buying the league for years, but no mention of that.
Now it's our fuckin turn
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Manchester City assistant manager Mark Bowen says Brazilian superstar Kaka is "very close" to a world record-breaking transfer from Italian giants AC Milan.
A City delegation travelled to Italy and reportedly bid about 100m euros for the 26-year-old attacking midfielder.
Kaka has said he intends to stay at Milan but Bowen told BBC Sport Wales: "We believe the deal is very close.
"We are selling the future plans of the club to the player."
Kaka's adviser Diogo Kotscho said the 2007 Fifa World Player of the Year would be open to a move to City if Milan wanted to sell.
And Mark Hughes' right-hand-man Bowen revealed: "I've read a lot about his love of AC Milan - and that goes without saying - but even when people said the deal was dead, that was not our understanding.
"We are still hopeful of still signing Kaka.
"The situation has been a surprise to everyone but obviously negotiations have been going on for a fair while.
"How close we are I don't know but our understanding is that it is very much a strong possibility that Kaka will be coming to Manchester City."
Some media outlets reported that the deal was off because Man City had decided to withdraw their offer to Milan.
But Hughes told a news conference on Thursday that the club were continuing their pursuit of the player, insisting that "negotiations are still taking place".
Hughes also said he was very much part of discussions to bring Kaka to Eastlands.
"It would be naive to think I have not been involved in discussions over this transfer. I have had meetings about it and have had an input," said the Welshman.
"It is impossible to say whether it will go through or not but we will let everyone know when there is something to say."
An AC Milan spokesman told BBC Sport on Thursday that they would not be making any further comment on the "special situation".
Kaka's representative insists any move to Manchester City would be done for the right reasons and not just for the reported £500,000-a-week wages.
"It is not impossible, if Milan let us talk, then we will see what City have to offer," Kotscho told BBC 5 Live.
"Kaka knows about the offer but the club did not give authorisation for talks, so we did not meet.
"It was a great proposal but it's not about only money.
"We have to see if Manchester City have a project to become a Champions League team and become one of the top teams in the world, and to stay there long term."
"Kaka wouldn't do anything based on money," Kotscho earlier told Italian newspaper Corriere dello Sport.
Previously Kaka had told the website of Mediaset, a TV company owned by Milan owner Silvio Berlusconi how he wanted to stay at the club for life.
"I want to grow old at Milan," he said.
"I repeat what I have always said. Other clubs can make all the offers they want but it all depends on Milan.
"As I have said before, as long as Milan share my goals, I would like to stay here. Then if one day the club wants to sell me, than that would be a different matter altogether.
"My aim is to become at some point in the future the captain of this team."
With Paolo Maldini currently holding the AC Milan skipper's armband, Kaka added: "I know there is a hierarchy and Maldini and (Massimo) Ambrosini are before me, but after..."
AC Milan confirmed that their chief executive Adriano Galliani had met officials from City on Tuesday to discuss Kaka's future.
In a statement, the Serie A club said: "Galliani received a delegation from Manchester City yesterday in Milan as a gesture of courtesy like always in these cases. There are no talks at the moment."
The current record for a player's signature is £46m when France's Zinedine Zidane moved from Juventus to Real Madrid in 2001.
Kaka joined Serie A giants Milan from Sao Paulo in 2003 and has since won the league title, Champions League and Club World Cup.
The attacking midfielder has scored 86 goals in 244 appearances for Milan. He has also picked up 62 caps for Brazil and scored 23 goals.
Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, estimated to be worth £15bn, took over as City owner in September 2008 and extensive funds have been made available to Hughes.
However, he has only secured the services of Wayne Bridge in January's transfer window, with bids rejected for West Ham forward Craig Bellamy and Blackburn striker Roque Santa Cruz.
The four-man delegation that travelled to Italy to initiate talks with the Milan officials is believed to have AC Milan confirmed that their chief executive Adriano Galliani had met officials from City on Tuesday to discuss Kaka's future.
In a statement, the Serie A club said: "Galliani received a delegation from Manchester City yesterday in Milan as a gesture of courtesy like always in these cases. There are no talks at the moment."
The current record for a player's signature is £46m when France's Zinedine Zidane moved from Juventus to Real Madrid in 2001.
Kaka joined Serie A giants Milan from Sao Paulo in 2003 and has since won the league title, Champions League and Club World Cup.
The attacking midfielder has scored 86 goals in 244 appearances for Milan. He has also picked up 62 caps for Brazil and scored 23 goals.
Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, estimated to be worth £15bn, took over as City owner in September 2008 and extensive funds have been made available to Hughes.
However, he has only secured the services of Wayne Bridge in January's transfer window, with bids rejected for West Ham forward Craig Bellamy and Blackburn striker Roque Santa Cruz.
The four-man delegation that travelled to Italy to initiate talks with the Milan officials is believed to have included executive chairman Garry Cook and two representatives of the Sheikh.
BBC Radio 5 Live's senior football reporter Ian Dennis says the move underlines Sheikh Mansour's "desire to transform Manchester City", although he added "actually pulling off what would be an incredible coup is another matter entirely".
With the club struggling in 15th position in the Premier League, it would give City an incredible boost if they were to seal the deal for one of the world's best players.
However, it is thought the move to target Kaka is being driven by the club's top officials rather than Hughes himself.
Kaka is under contract at the San Siro until 2013, and although he stated last February that he wanted to remain at Milan for the rest of his career, he did hint at a desire to play in the Premier League - which he has described as the "best championship in the world".
Italian football expert Gabrielle Marcotti told BBC Radio 5 Live he believed the City delegation had begun conversations with Milan representatives talking about signing goalkeeper Nelson Dida.
"As I understand it, they went to Milan supposedly under the ruse of talking about another player and in the course of the conversation they brought up Kaka and said they would be prepared to spend this much," Marcotti said.
(bbc)
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Failed in there attempt.
As the chant goes "Citys going down with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank."
but remember.....everytime you make fuel ;D
It'll be nice to know that every gallon of petrol a Manchester United fan buys is going into our transfer kitty."
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00153/Noel_Gallagher_153238a.jpg)
Maybe so but the oil is gonna run out .
c'mon,for once don't you like to have a great derby with the City full of great players ?
Not really i remember when we got whopped 5-1 by them, i prefer reminding them they have not won a trophy in over 30 years.
a real derby must be between two strong teams imo
I see what you are saying but spurs and arsenal have had some great matches these last few years and arseanl are always higher than spurs
spurs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>city
lol
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Manchester City get permission to speak to Kaka
Manchester City’s attempt to sign Kaka, the AC Milan midfielder, moved a significant step closer tonight after the Italian club gave the Brazilian permission to speak to City's representatives having considered – and reportedly accepted - an improved world record bid of £107 million.
A statement read out on Milan’s official TV channel earlier this evening said the bid was “being considered”, with the Associated Press subsequently stating permission had been granted for the Premier League side to negotiate directly with the player. Kaka and the men who represent him — his agent, Gaetano Paolillo, and his father, Bosco — had been expected to open talks with City on Monday, though with Milan’s apparent acceptance of their offer, that meeting may well be brought forward.
Earlier in the day, Mark Hughes, the Manchester City manager, had reassured the club’s supporters that the audacious move for the 2007 World Player of the Year remained on course, despite reports in Abu Dhabi having earlier today claimed the deal was dead.
"I've seen these reports but you have to bear in mind that the people who are being given a platform to speak do not represent the Sheikh Mansour [the owner] or Khaldoon Al Mubarak [the chairman]," Hughes said.
"In my opinion they should not be given a platform to say what they have because in this instance it is completely untrue because negotiations are still taking place."
Hughes also rejected claims that he had no input in the decision to try and bring the Brazilian to Eastlands for a world-record fee. "It would be naive to think I have not been involved in discussions over this transfer," he added. "I have had meetings about it and have had an input. It is impossible to say whether it will go through or not but we will let everyone know when there is something to say.
"It has been well documented that we have expressed an interest in the player," Hughes added. "Our people went to Milan in the week with a view to getting an understanding of the situation. But to really add any more to that would be wrong. As soon as we have news on any player we will bring that to you. But speculating on different players, is wrong.
"I am always interested in good players. If good players become available, then I'm interested."
Arabianbusiness.com had earlier reported that a senior source close to the club’s owners had said the offer, which amounted to around £13.6m a year in wages after tax, was no longer on the table and Hughes was close to completing the signing of another player.
“The deal is off, and the offer is no longer on the table," the source said. "The club is now pursuing another striker which it is very close to signing. Manchester City is about to unveil a new striker, but he is not called Kaka.”
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Oh Jesus Christ, it IS happening. :o :o :o :o
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City is about to spend something like 600 million euros,its not only about kaka :o
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Kaka just one piece in the Manchester City jigsaw
Early next week, after he and his father, Bosco, have met Manchester City officials, Kaká will have to decide whether to buy into Garry Cook’s pitch. If the chief executive can sell the Barclays Premier League club to the AC Milan forward, he could be at the City of Manchester Stadium a week today.
One of Kaká’s requirements is that City put together a side capable of finishing in the top four next season, with an eye towards the Champions League in 2010-11. How far away are they? Maybe not as far as some seem to think, especially with the Brazil star on board. For a start, there is Kaká himself. If, as many suggest, he is one of the top three players in the world, alongside Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, there is little question that his transition to England is likely to be smooth.
Much is made of the physical nature of the English game and, in that sense, Kaká, 26, has a clear edge over Messi, the Barcelona forward. At 6ft 1in and weighing nearly 12½st, he is big and solid, the kind of player who rarely gets outmuscled. He is also extremely durable. He has not suffered a significant injury since he was 16 and has featured in more than 90 per cent of Milan’s Serie A and Champions League matches in his 5½ years at the club.
Contrast this with Messi, 21, who is seven inches shorter and some 20lb lighter. While the Argentina player is surprisingly compact and strong for a man his size, he is less robust. He has featured in fewer than three quarters of Barcelona’s league matches since becoming a regular in the 2006-07 season.
Ronaldo, 23, has a similar build to Kaká and is probably more athletic. But if you judge the impact he had upon joining Manchester United from Sporting Lisbon in 2003 and compare it with what Kaká would offer City now, the Brazilian probably has the edge.
For a start, he is eight years older and considerably more mature than Ronaldo was when he moved to England. More important, there is a directness and a simplicity to Kaká’s game that the early Ronaldo lacked. “From the moment he arrived at Milan, I was struck by how quickly he adapted to a European mentality,” Carlo Ancelotti, the Milan coach, said of Kaká last year. “He is, above all, direct. He will always try to go vertically rather than horizontally. And he will never take the extra, unnecessary touch.”
Those qualities, along with a physical presence, are essential in the perpetual-motion machine that is the Premier League. One would expect Kaká to settle quickly and productively — although his experience at Fratton Park in November, when he failed to impose himself against Portsmouth, will give the doubters ammunition. However, the real questions should be about the rest of the side.
It is true that City have underachieved and that some purchases have not worked out, yet the squad is stronger than people realise. With Kaká and Wayne Bridge, who joined from Chelsea this month, it probably would not take more than another four signings to give City a starting XI capable of reaching the top four.
Joe Hart is a promising goalkeeper, but he is only 21. A more experienced player who could provide stability until Hart is ready to take over would be one building block. Another might be a versatile defender, equally confident at centre half or full back, who could provide competition for Micah Richards, Richard Dunne and Pablo Zabaleta. A strong holding midfield player would free up Vincent Kompany to do what he does best, play in the back four, and provide the defensive cover to City’s core of attacking midfield players. Finally, a prolific centre forward would help to convert into goals the many chances that Kaká, Robinho and Co would create.
Who should they sign? If they were to plug Gianluigi Buffon, Pepe, Michael Essien and Fernando Torres into the gaps, they would be instant contenders. But that quartet would cost in excess of £250 million and so it is not going to happen (at least not for now). Yet there are cheaper solutions for each of those positions. And if City can fill them in the right way, they could give Kaká the assurances he needs.
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fucking oil arabs who have no business in euro soccer ruining it... this is horrible. this sport should be about marketing your team and using OWN money to buy niggas. not having a shit load of oil randomly and spending it on niggas. this shouldn't even be legal. fucking camel jerkers
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this shouldn't even be legal.
why not ? ::)
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so bill gates going all in and buying the 3 best players in the world at each position, that is how soccer is supposed to be according to you? teams should only spend money they acquired in their business, from real sponsors and shit, not from camel jerkers
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so bill gates going all in and buying the 3 best players in the world at each position, that is how soccer is supposed to be according to you? teams should only spend money they acquired in their business, from real sponsors and shit, not from camel jerkers
this camel jerker is the new LEGIT owner of the manchester city.
"teams should only spend money they acquired in their busines"
WELCOME TO 30 YEARS AGO
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so bill gates going all in and buying the 3 best players in the world at each position, that is how soccer is supposed to be according to you? teams should only spend money they acquired in their business, from real sponsors and shit, not from camel jerkers
this camel jerker is the new LEGIT owner of the manchester city.
"teams should only spend money they acquired in their busines"
WELCOME TO 30 YEARS AGO
he's fucking right- these guys ruin football, how you can call it a fair competition when some rich fucks keep foobtall clubs as a toy? A football club belongs to the fans, and not to some oil arabs who doesn't even identify. But I don't expect a Inter fan to understand this... If Manchester City wins a national trophy in 2 years only because some dude give them let's say 500m €, how can you call that an achievement?
But professional football as a sport died a long time ago anyway. It's all about money and business, fuck it.
They drive real fans out of the stadiums -those that create the atmosphere- with horrible prices and replace them with wealthy wannabe fans, just to raise the wager of those moneywhores and their greedy agents.
It's pretty amusing tho, look at Chelski, Abramovic invested nearly 800 million in 5 years, and they haven't even won the CL. Now that he's lost so much money, he won't buy them new players, and soon as he loses interest, he'll leave them with so much debts they'll never recover. Man City has destiny.
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Elano is just happy because the best player of the team he hates most gets taken away from them. If they bought Zlatan I doubt he would love it all that much ;)
Whoever touches Ribery, Ima kill him
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^^ yeah only that they can buy atleast 2 Kaka's with the money
I think he's mad that his hero is no longer the highest paid bitch in the world.
Whoever touches Ribery, Ima kill him
I give him another 1 1/2 years. Maybe Kaka will be his teammate in 2 years.
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Elano is just happy because the best player of the team he hates most gets taken away from them. If they bought Zlatan I doubt he would love it all that much ;)
Whoever touches Ribery, Ima kill him
No,i'm just happy to see another big team in manchester :P
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so bill gates going all in and buying the 3 best players in the world at each position, that is how soccer is supposed to be according to you? teams should only spend money they acquired in their business, from real sponsors and shit, not from camel jerkers
this camel jerker is the new LEGIT owner of the manchester city.
"teams should only spend money they acquired in their busines"
WELCOME TO 30 YEARS AGO
he's fucking right- these guys ruin football, how you can call it a fair competition when some rich fucks keep foobtall clubs as a toy? A football club belongs to the fans, and not to some oil arabs who doesn't even identify. But I don't expect a Inter fan to understand this... If Manchester City wins a national trophy in 2 years only because some dude give them let's say 500m €, how can you call that an achievement?
But professional football as a sport died a long time ago anyway. It's all about money and business, fuck it.
They drive real fans out of the stadiums -those that create the atmosphere- with horrible prices and replace them with wealthy wannabe fans, just to raise the wager of those moneywhores and their greedy agents.
It's pretty amusing tho, look at Chelski, Abramovic invested nearly 800 million in 5 years, and they haven't even won the CL. Now that he's lost so much money, he won't buy them new players, and soon as he loses interest, he'll leave them with so much debts they'll never recover. Man City has destiny.
You are a borussia dortmund fan,your club is shit and will always be SHIT.
I don't expect a Borussia fan to understand anything
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Hahaha Im loving all this hate ;D
Accusations that we are ruining the game are rubbish. We did not invent this playing field, we are merely outplaying the others at the game they started. :D
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Hahaha Im loving all this hate ;D
Accusations that we are ruining the game are rubbish. We did not invent this playing field, we are merely outplaying the others at the game they started. :D
don't pay attention to a borussia dortmund supporter :D
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Disgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.
Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.
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Disgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.
Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.
Trust me mate the guy is here for a long time,
Manchester City are running the club within it's means.
Unlike other clubs that are full of debt (cough cough United)
I think FIFA should look into owners who cant afford, what they have bought.
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so bill gates going all in and buying the 3 best players in the world at each position, that is how soccer is supposed to be according to you? teams should only spend money they acquired in their business, from real sponsors and shit, not from camel jerkers
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so bill gates going all in and buying the 3 best players in the world at each position, that is how soccer is supposed to be according to you? teams should only spend money they acquired in their business, from real sponsors and shit, not from camel jerkers
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I think FIFA should look into owners who cant afford, what they have bought.
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^ For example the one of Internazionale F.C. who has more than 400 millions of € in debts?
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^ For example the one of Internazionale F.C. who has more than 400 millions of € in debts?
Antonio moratti ogni hanno ripiana di tasca sua,cosi come quel ladro del berlusca.
Non attaccarti a ste cose dai ;)
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MANCHESTER City owner Sheikh Mansour lost £440MILLION yesterday — nearly DOUBLE what he is set to spend on Brazilian soccer ace Kaka.
The Arab tycoon, who hopes to sign AC Milan’s Kaka in a £243million deal, was stunned as Barclays shares crashed by 25 per cent — wiping £27BILLION off the bank’s market value.
The Sheikh, 38, had plunged £3.5billion of his estimated £33billion fortune into Barclays last October, giving him a 16.3 per cent stake.
But a banking insider said last night: “It’s fair to say Sheikh Mansour had a day from hell.
“Talk about being in the Kaka. He must have watched the news with his head in his hands.
“You wake up preparing to make history with the biggest ever offer to a footballer. Hours later, you’re down £440million.”
Hopes
A £440million loss is equivalent to the gross domestic product of African nation Gambia.
Abu Dhabi royal Mansour bought Man City, managed by Mark Hughes, last September — raising hopes of an influx of star players.
The Sun revealed yesterday that he hopes to take Kaka, 26, to the club by splashing £108million on a transfer, another £108million on the attacker’s wages and £27million in fees.
He bought into Barclays when it raised £7billion from investors rather than lose independence in a British government bail-out. His stake is now worth £1.3billion.
Barclays insisted last night it was not in any financial difficulty.
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Outrageous.” “Crass.” “Vulgar.” “Insensitive.” “Not in the real world.” Just some of the appalled reviews of Manchester City’s alleged willingness to pay Kaká £500,000 a week.
We agree. It’s way too little.
Half a mill? This is Kaká we’re talking about. And — more importantly — Manchester City. Do the basic sums, bearing in mind those circumstances, and it just doesn’t add up. Indeed, £500,000 a week could almost be construed as an insult.
We’ve done some number-crunching of our own and our considered opinion, based on an appropriately cautious view of the marketplace and taking into account the likely volatility of the global economy, going forward, is that City need to be offering Kaká about 15 times as much as that before the all-important “personal terms” aspect of this proposed deal begins to make any sense for the Brazilian at all.
For illustration purposes, we have drawn up our own salary and benefits package, which we firmly believe represents a more realistic valuation of the player’s services.
Our calculations begin with a basic non-negotiable sum of £1 million a week, offered in lieu of Champions League appearances. Let’s face it, Champions League action is what the big-name players live for. And Kaká isn’t going to be seeing any at City — obviously not this season, certainly not next season, and, most likely, not in any season. Allowing for the inevitable disappointment and sense of thwarted ambition, £1 million a week seems a reasonable enough non-performance clause.
Related to this, we also propose a further £800,000 a week against the possibility, in two or three years’ time, that City may again end up in the Uefa Cup. Now, that really would be a disaster for the world’s richest club and footballer. There’s an old saying: if God had intended football to be played on a Thursday night, He would have invented the Uefa Cup. But He didn’t. Uefa did. We believe £800,000 a week would help to ease any embarrassment to the player.
We move on to the additional fee of £1.4 million a week, offered in good faith as a kind of apology for sinking possibly the greatest player in the world directly into a relegation dogfight, with the real prospect lying uneasily ahead of testing and tasty battles with the likes of West Bromwich Albion, Blackburn Rovers and Stoke City. Call it parachute money, if you like.
We then add in another £500,000, calculated as ongoing reimbursement because Kaká is going to be spending his weekends watching crosses from Shaun Wright-Phillips disappear into the stands at heights in excess of 25 feet. And we lob in a further £25,000 petty cash, under the general bracket “Stephen Ireland”.
We allow another £1.6 million a week “opprobrium” payment, designed to reflect the amount of stick Kaká will get, purely as a consequence of his transfer fee and wages. And we incorporate an “Oliver Hardy clause”, worth £750,000 a week, to offset the tiresome fact that nearly everyone who isn’t a City fan will be hoping to see him fall flat on his face.
Inevitably, our figure incorporates £450,000 per week “Shevchenko weighting” — danger money offered in the light of the known phenomenon wherein a player arrives with a gobsmackingly large price tag attached to his ankles and finds that the weight of it causes an instant, drastic and ultimately irreparable collapse of form.
Finally, there is the umbrella payment, designed to acknowledge, and, in as far as possible, financially compensate for the fact that, if Kaká goes to City, he will be required to live for the rest of his career with the reputation of being a player who joined a club purely for the money. Nothing wrong with that, of course. But the money had better be good. So we suggest another £1.35 million a week in respect of that.
Which brings our final salary to £7.875 million a week. Before tax, of course.
One can understand why City have opened negotiations so conservatively. All of us are, in our different ways, cutting our cloth carefully in this new era of prudence. For you or me, that might mean reining back slightly on takeaway coffees at £2.40 a pop. For City, that means going in at a mere £500,000 a week for Kaká.
At the same time, with the deal on a knife edge, this is no time for the club to be holding back. Do they really want the Brazilian? It’s time for them to come down off the financial fence and make it emphatically clear, if so. City should at least do the player the honour of acknowledging the full extent of what they are asking of him.
The price of that seems to us to be £7.875 million a week, bottom line. Go get him, City.
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^ For example the one of Internazionale F.C. who has more than 400 millions of € in debts?
Antonio moratti ogni hanno ripiana di tasca sua,cosi come quel ladro del berlusca.
Non attaccarti a ste cose dai ;)
Petta. Se vuoi ti scrivo un intero libro sui giochini contabili che avete fatto, eh. Come creare una sotto-società che si "compra" tutti i vostri debiti, e cose simili. Così è facile.
La realtà è che c'avete oltre 400 mln di debiti, punto e basta. Tanto che Moratti è da anni che cerca di vendere l'Inter ma col cazzo che trova un acquirente.
Poi per carità, tifo Juventus e Arsenal, e ho imparato da entrambe che non importa quanti soldi hai, ma come li spendi. Non sono invidioso.
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^ For example the one of Internazionale F.C. who has more than 400 millions of € in debts?
Antonio moratti ogni hanno ripiana di tasca sua,cosi come quel ladro del berlusca.
Non attaccarti a ste cose dai ;)
Petta. Se vuoi ti scrivo un intero libro sui giochini contabili che avete fatto, eh. Come creare una sotto-società che si "compra" tutti i vostri debiti, e cose simili. Così è facile.
La realtà è che c'avete oltre 400 mln di debiti, punto e basta. Tanto che Moratti è da anni che cerca di vendere l'Inter ma col cazzo che trova un acquirente.
Poi per carità, tifo Juventus e Arsenal, e ho imparato da entrambe che non importa quanti soldi hai, ma come li spendi. Non sono invidioso.
i "giochini contabili" li fanno tutti e lo sai benissimo anche tu.
inter e milan sono indebitate è vero ma perchè spendono tanto tra ingaggi e acquisti,però ogni anni moratti e il nano ripianano di tasca loro.
se moratti volesse veramente vendere l'inter,CREDIMI,troverebbe la fila fuori dalla saras
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^ For example the one of Internazionale F.C. who has more than 400 millions of € in debts?
Antonio moratti ogni hanno ripiana di tasca sua,cosi come quel ladro del berlusca.
Non attaccarti a ste cose dai ;)
Petta. Se vuoi ti scrivo un intero libro sui giochini contabili che avete fatto, eh. Come creare una sotto-società che si "compra" tutti i vostri debiti, e cose simili. Così è facile.
La realtà è che c'avete oltre 400 mln di debiti, punto e basta. Tanto che Moratti è da anni che cerca di vendere l'Inter ma col cazzo che trova un acquirente.
Poi per carità, tifo Juventus e Arsenal, e ho imparato da entrambe che non importa quanti soldi hai, ma come li spendi. Non sono invidioso.
i "giochini contabili" li fanno tutti e lo sai benissimo anche tu.
inter e milan sono indebitate è vero ma perchè spendono tanto tra ingaggi e acquisti,però ogni anni moratti e il nano ripianano di tasca loro.
se moratti volesse veramente vendere l'inter,CREDIMI,troverebbe la fila fuori dalla saras
Mah. Resta il fatto che c'avete 400 mln di debiti, e che prima o poi sia Moratti che il nano dovranno pagarli.
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400 non credo proprio
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400 non credo proprio
Tanto è. Ma tanto dormi tranquillo: ormai comandate voi.
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400 non credo proprio
Tanto è. Ma tanto dormi tranquillo: ormai comandate voi.
fidati che non sono 400 milioni.
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DAMN,even the owner of acmilan silvio berlusoni said this morning that kaka will leave milan for manchester city :o
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Yeah, it's done.
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I hope City misses the CL next year. That would be the shit. Can you imagine anything funnier than the owner losing interest after 3-4 whack years and leaving the team fucked up with Kaka wasting his prime there? I'd love that.
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I hope City misses the CL next year. That would be the shit. Can you imagine anything funnier than the owner losing interest after 3-4 whack years and leaving the team fucked up with Kaka wasting his prime there? I'd love that.
Of course they won't be in CL next season.
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Let's make the dream even better: let's dream about City going to Championship this season. ;D ;D
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I hope City misses the CL next year. That would be the shit. Can you imagine anything funnier than the owner losing interest after 3-4 whack years and leaving the team fucked up with Kaka wasting his prime there? I'd love that.
why so much hate towards the city ? ::)
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Disgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.
Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.
Trust me mate the guy is here for a long time,
Manchester City are running the club within it's means.
Unlike other clubs that are full of debt (cough cough United)
I think FIFA should look into owners who cant afford, what they have bought.
Nearly every football club is in debt, as are nearly every major business worldwide. Football is a business. But really, do you honestly think spending 100million on a player is good for our beautiful sport? It think its an outrage. I would honestly feel that way about it if Everton had that sort of money and was going to buy Kaka. I wouldn't want us to. Its a disgrace.
Kaka doesn't want to play for you, as Robinho doesn't. They dont give a fuck about Man City, they give a fuck about money. At least players like Torres has always said he wanted to play for Liverpool. Look at Arteta and Cahill for Everton. They are on less than 40 grand a week and they play their heart and soul out for us, thats the way it should be. Kaka probably hadn't even heard about Man City until the other day. I wouldn't want a player playing for my team who I knew couldn't give a fuck about being there. Absolute disgrace. Blatter needs to get his head sorted, a.s.a.p.
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i dont care if they get kaka if they do im waited for the odds on relegation to rise then waking £20 on them going down
west ham nearly went down with tevez and mascherano there two players will not make that big a difference...like robinho has settled instantly and there still at the bottom end...and theres no saying kaka will settle instantly the premiership is played at a very different pace to Serie A(ask shevchenko)
plus how tight the league is this year theirs no favourites for relegation...wba aside lol
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At least players like Torres has always said he wanted to play for Liverpool.
and do you really believe him ? :D
c'mon....
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i dont care if they get kaka if they do im waited for the odds on relegation to rise then waking £20 on them going down
west ham nearly went down with tevez and mascherano there two players will not make that big a difference...like robinho has settled instantly and there still at the bottom end...and theres no saying kaka will settle instantly the premiership is played at a very different pace to Serie A(ask shevchenko)
plus how tight the league is this year theirs no favourites for relegation...wba aside lol
they'll not buy just kaka....
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Kaká deal makes it Christmas time for some agents
Kaká is not the only person who will benefit financially if he completes his proposed transfer from AC Milan to Manchester City before the transfer window closes next month.
Agents are the men who make deals happen and one said that “it’s Christmas again” when he was asked to sum up the mood among his colleagues yesterday.
Football finance is a murky world and it becomes even more impenetrable when two of the richest clubs in the world try to cut a deal for one of the best players in the world.
Depending on who you believe, City are prepared to pay anywhere between £95 million and £107 million for the Brazil forward. They are also said to have offered to pay the 26-year-old £500,000 a week, which would mean that their total investment will be more than £200 million if he signs a four-year deal.
Unconfirmed reports in Italy on Thursday evening suggested that middlemen in the deal could be paid as much as ¤35 million (about £31 million) to convince Kaká to swap Milan for Manchester, although some agents believe that figure is too high.
Agents would normally expect to be paid about 5 per cent of a player’s wages and they frequently expect a lump sum for their work. A 5 per cent commission on wages of £500,000 a week would net an agent £5.2 million over four years. Agents and businessmen who are working on the Kaká deal include Kia Joorabchian, an independent mediator, Ernesto Bronzetti, an Italian agent, Bosco, Kaká’s father, Gaetano Paolillo, the player’s agent, and Diogo Kotscho, his spokesman.
Even if City are left with a bill for the services of all these middlemen, their total outlay may be less than the figures that are being bandied around. “I doubt that they will have to pay anywhere near as much as £30 million to agents,” Jon Smith, the chief executive of First Artist, the football agent and entertainment group, said. “Milan will make the deal happen if they want it to and City will pay the agents what they want to pay. No club can turn down £100 million for one of their players. Every club has to listen at that level.”
Kaká has lucrative sponsorship deals with companies such as Sony, adidas and Armani Jeans in Italy and experts are divided on whether the proposed deal makes sense from a marketing point of view for the player and his brand. On the one hand, moving from one of the most famous clubs in the world to a club who have not won their domestic title for 41 years makes little sense, but the Premier League has a much higher profile in the world than Serie A and Kaká’s squeaky-clean image will be broadcast to more than a billion people if he decides to move to England.
“Moving clubs should not have an impact on the agreements he has with the brands he represents,” Henry Chappell, chief executive of Pitch PR, said. “In theory, moving from one of the top-five clubs in the world to a club that is not even in the top five in the UK might not appeal, but on the plus side we are talking about the potential of him going down as the world’s first £100 million player. That will be a watershed and will mark him out as a man who has made history. He will move up to a different level if this deal does happen.”
While Kaká’s arrival in England would be welcomed by agents and sponsors, his impact on Manchester’s other club is more difficult to gauge. If City do sign Kaká for anywhere near £100 million, United could demand at least as much if Cristiano Ronaldo decides to leave Old Trafford in the summer.
However, if the Portugal winger stays, he can demand to be paid as much as Kaká, especially because he beat the Brazilian to become the Fifa World Player of the Year this week. “As far as agents are concerned,” Smith said. “It’s Christmas time again.”
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So has Kaka accepted? I really hope not, nothing to do with City i just really like Kaka at Milan, think he's perfect for that club. I wonder who MIlan will bring in to replace him with 100 Mill!? Ronaldo and Messi if they wanted to...
Oh, and while 100 mill is completely ridicolous, Donnelly is right City are just outplaying the bigger teams at their own game. 100 million is fuckin crazy, but so is 30 mill for Rooney, so is paying fat Frank 150 grand a week or whatever he is on, so is 32 million for Tevez, 20 mill for Keane. No player is worth these amounts...
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I doubt Messi will leave for Milan.
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Im loving all these Green eyed Monsters ;D
And Bez what fuckin footballer does not play for the money???
ffs welcome to 2009
Stop hating on us, worry about your own clubs What are probaby in debt.
Oh and i would just like to say Thank you to everyone who keeps filling there car up with fuel
M.C.F.C are forever greatful ;D
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I doubt Messi will leave for Milan.
In the future Messi could be in milan (the city) with f.c. inter,however i highly doubt he will leave barcelona in the next 4/5 years
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I wonder who MIlan will bring in to replace him with 100 Mill!? Ronaldo and Messi if they wanted to...
ronaldo....cristiano ? he costs 100 million alone.
and messi even more.
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At least players like Torres has always said he wanted to play for Liverpool.
and do you really believe him ? :D
c'mon....
Torres talks to Martin Samuels
There is a line in a song by West Coast rappers, The Pharcyde. ‘I gotta kick somethin’ that means somethin’,’ they say.
Different cultures, true, a world between south central Los Angeles and Liverpool, via the working class town of Fuenlabrada, on the outskirts of Madrid, but Fernando Torres would surely recognise the sentiment.
In an age when footballers are willingly traded like precious commodities, to win elections or put a business on the map, Torres is different. He is not comfortable being merely an expensive gun for hire. His first club, Atletico Madrid, is the subject of a lifelong devotion to the extent that he cannot imagine playing for another team in Spain.
On signing for his second, Liverpool, he was motivated to make a similar connection, and now pledges the same career loyalty. A cynic would argue that he is merely trying this red shirt on for size, that the commitment of a player imported for a club record transfer fee cannot compare to that of a stalwart such as Steven Gerrard or Jamie Carragher.
Perhaps this is true; but Torres has a manner that seems sincere. He is not so desperate to fit in that he has betrayed his birthright. When he speaks (excellent) English he still sounds more Spanish than scouse, but the words that tumble out reveal a man who is looking for kinship with more than just a random millionaires’ club.
Torres, too, wants to kick something that means something.
"Imagine 10 years after you stop playing, you go back, you look around, you are not in any picture, you have no medals, no trophies; it is like you played for nothing," he said. "You may have a fantastic car, a fantastic home, but what does it matter?
"The biggest ambition in my career is still to win the European Cup. I want to have a picture of that to look at later; I want to have that medal. You can have a contract that is better than your friends, but no player looks back and says: "I won more money".
Not that Torres is blase about financial matters. He was brought up in Fuenlabrada, a small city on the outskirts of Madrid, most famous in macho Spain for putting skirts on the stick man signs that indicate pedestrian crossing routes, in an attempt to make them gender-friendly.
Torres' father, Jose, worked but his mother, Flori, devoted her day to making sure 10-year-old Fernando got to and from Atletico Madrid's training camp at Orcasitas, an arduous trip.
"We had to get a train, then a bus, then walk through a park and she did it two times a day," he recalled.
Torres took his devotion to Atletico from his grandfather and was well schooled in what it meant to follow the underdog. "It was more about the feeling than the results," he said. Just as well, really, for the club living in the shadow of mighty Real Madrid.
"It was very hard to go through life as a small boy supporting Atletico."
Torres said: "For all the other kids at the end of the season, their team was on parade with trophies. For Atletico, it was different, but I thought we represented something else: the workers of the city, the people that did not have a lot of money, who had it hard and then, when work was over, went to watch their team.
"That was wonderful. Since then, what my club represents is very important. Sometimes Atletico felt small, because next door there was Real Madrid, probably the best club in the world for trophies and fame.
"But when you were at our stadium it was different. There you could see that everybody was so proud of their team, they were on our side in that moment and then Monday - wake up, back to work.
"Real Madrid represented something else. Glamour, big stars. But I came from a working-class family. Real did not mean as much to me. My father worked every day, my brother and sister had to travel many hours to study, so Atletico were for people like us.
"Still, I do not think I could play for Real Madrid. I feel if you have the chance to play for Real Madrid you probably have a chance to play for a lot of other clubs, too — so I would pick another club.
"It would be hard for me to live in Madrid with all the Atletico fans. I understand that. I still feel like an Atletico fan and when Liverpool go back to play Real Madrid in the Champions League, I will play as if I am an Atletico fan."
Considering this, one might think Torres would connect more with the lot of Evertonians on Merseyside, but on signing for Liverpool he tapped instantly into the DNA of the club and the city, the way it contrives to be big, but not flash.
Torres has a highly marketable image, a website, and a brand logo which cockily inserts the number nine between his first and last names, but such paraphernalia is pretty standard for a leading sportsman these days. On all other fronts he remains grounded, unblinkingly in tune with his adopted home.
"Liverpool is a massive club in reputation, but as soon as I came here it felt like Atletico to me," he said. "It is a working city, an honest city. The people work all week, and on Saturday they want to go to Anfield and watch the best team in the world. I had many offers in football, I had many big clubs to choose from, so I decided on something more than football.
"The people here, the history, the way everybody comes together, I looked at that and I thought we have the chance to make this one of the greatest clubs in the world, again.
"Now I feel Liverpool is my English club, the way Atletico is my Spanish club. I would not like to play for another English or Spanish club. This feeling is very important to me."
One is immediately reminded of Ruud Gullit who, as manager of Newcastle United, dismissed the significance of the Tyne-Wear derby because Sunderland was a different city. No chance of Torres making a similar mistake about the importance to Liverpool fans of, say, any match against Manchester United.
If anything, Liverpool's imported players can become too aware of the passions around certain games, as Javier Mascherano's performance at Old Trafford last season indicated.
In an era when players kiss the badge one week and ask for a transfer the next, however, it is hard to discourage one who is attempting to turn a contracted job into a vocation.
"When I arrived I knew that Liverpool were a massive club, but that is all I knew," Torres added. "I could not tell you the history or what we stood for; but then my first three days were spent in an apartment. I couldn't go out because I was waiting for my medical and it was all a big secret, so the club sent me a lot of DVDs and books about Liverpool's history.
"I was there with my girlfriend and we were watching and trying to read, because it was all in English, and that is how I found out it was so much bigger than I knew. I read about Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush, and I felt so proud to be sharing in this club.
"When I was with Atletico I was made captain at the age of 19, which was too soon really. It mattered a lot to me and I was disappointed when people came in who knew nothing about us, nothing of our history; they did not understand what made our club different.
"Looking back, we should have done what Liverpool did, because if you know your club, if you know what it stands for and if you are proud of it, you will play better because it will mean something to you.
"You have to know what club you are playing for or you just play for yourself. Every time I put on a Liverpool shirt, I know it is more than just a football game."
The nuances are gleaned over time. Torres said that when he arrived his target was to win the Champions League, but the locals quickly put him straight.
"They would say, "No, no, the Premier League, we must win the Premier League"," he recalled. "So now I feel that way, too. I know about this club. I know how important it is to win the Premier League after 19 years. I know that if Manchester United win the League this season it will be 18 titles for us and 18 for them, so we cannot let that happen.
"I know that even though Chelsea and Arsenal are top teams, our biggest match of any season is with Manchester United. I know how important it is to win against Everton, too.
"I imagine to win the League here would be like winning the European Championship with Spain after 44 years. We became heroes of the country, just 23 people.
"There were 15 kilometres from the airport to the heart of Madrid and it was like a red sea, millions of people in the city centre all with Spanish flags, people stopping dead on the opposite side of the motorway to cheer us as we went by, getting out of their cars, standing on their cars.
"It was strange. After the first game when we beat Russia 4-1, I did think it could be like every other tournament for us, when we start by playing well, but then nothing happens.
"Then when we won our other group games we began to believe in ourselves and the turning point was against Italy in the quarter-finals. Throughout history, Italy beat Spain. We have the game, we have the players, but we always lose.
"And then, when we beat Italy, and on penalties, I think we celebrated more than we did when we won the Final, because we knew. That was the key.
"It is the same with Liverpool. Winning at Chelsea, winning against Manchester United, these are the results that give us belief — then, if we get a result at Old Trafford in March, it will be our Italy game."
And it will, for Fernando Torres, most certainly kick something that means something.
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Im loving all these Green eyed Monsters ;D
And Bez what fuckin footballer does not play for the money???
ffs welcome to 2009
Stop hating on us, worry about your own clubs What are probaby in debt.
Oh and i would just like to say Thank you to everyone who keeps filling there car up with fuel
M.C.F.C are forever greatful ;D
Hard to say if you're being serious or just winding posters up..
It's safe to say that City is quickly ruining Football when they're placing bids exceeding a total of £100 mill and offering £500K in weekly wages.
And now they've nearly signed the highly average Dutch midfielder De Jong for the laughable amount £15 mill, when he's worth maybe £5-6 ?
Arab negotiations must start with: "How much would you like for this player?"
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Im loving all these Green eyed Monsters ;D
And Bez what fuckin footballer does not play for the money???
ffs welcome to 2009
Stop hating on us, worry about your own clubs What are probaby in debt.
Oh and i would just like to say Thank you to everyone who keeps filling there car up with fuel
M.C.F.C are forever greatful ;D
Arab negotiations must start with: "How much would you like for this player?"
Yeah thats right because we can
Now shut up fuckin moaning
MCFC Football killers muhahaha
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Ahh, so you were being serious.. I thought you were smarter, my mis-judgment.
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Ahh, so you were being serious.. I thought you were smarter, my mis-judgment.
Just sick of people having a pop at my club, Just because it's not United or Chelsea with all the money.
Fuck me there even blaming us for the fuckin credit crunch now.
like i say, people should worry about owners who cant afford there club.
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At least players like Torres has always said he wanted to play for Liverpool.
and do you really believe him ? :D
c'mon....
Torres talks to Martin Samuels
There is a line in a song by West Coast rappers, The Pharcyde. ‘I gotta kick somethin’ that means somethin’,’ they say.
Different cultures, true, a world between south central Los Angeles and Liverpool, via the working class town of Fuenlabrada, on the outskirts of Madrid, but Fernando Torres would surely recognise the sentiment.
In an age when footballers are willingly traded like precious commodities, to win elections or put a business on the map, Torres is different. He is not comfortable being merely an expensive gun for hire. His first club, Atletico Madrid, is the subject of a lifelong devotion to the extent that he cannot imagine playing for another team in Spain.
On signing for his second, Liverpool, he was motivated to make a similar connection, and now pledges the same career loyalty. A cynic would argue that he is merely trying this red shirt on for size, that the commitment of a player imported for a club record transfer fee cannot compare to that of a stalwart such as Steven Gerrard or Jamie Carragher.
Perhaps this is true; but Torres has a manner that seems sincere. He is not so desperate to fit in that he has betrayed his birthright. When he speaks (excellent) English he still sounds more Spanish than scouse, but the words that tumble out reveal a man who is looking for kinship with more than just a random millionaires’ club.
Torres, too, wants to kick something that means something.
"Imagine 10 years after you stop playing, you go back, you look around, you are not in any picture, you have no medals, no trophies; it is like you played for nothing," he said. "You may have a fantastic car, a fantastic home, but what does it matter?
"The biggest ambition in my career is still to win the European Cup. I want to have a picture of that to look at later; I want to have that medal. You can have a contract that is better than your friends, but no player looks back and says: "I won more money".
Not that Torres is blase about financial matters. He was brought up in Fuenlabrada, a small city on the outskirts of Madrid, most famous in macho Spain for putting skirts on the stick man signs that indicate pedestrian crossing routes, in an attempt to make them gender-friendly.
Torres' father, Jose, worked but his mother, Flori, devoted her day to making sure 10-year-old Fernando got to and from Atletico Madrid's training camp at Orcasitas, an arduous trip.
"We had to get a train, then a bus, then walk through a park and she did it two times a day," he recalled.
Torres took his devotion to Atletico from his grandfather and was well schooled in what it meant to follow the underdog. "It was more about the feeling than the results," he said. Just as well, really, for the club living in the shadow of mighty Real Madrid.
"It was very hard to go through life as a small boy supporting Atletico."
Torres said: "For all the other kids at the end of the season, their team was on parade with trophies. For Atletico, it was different, but I thought we represented something else: the workers of the city, the people that did not have a lot of money, who had it hard and then, when work was over, went to watch their team.
"That was wonderful. Since then, what my club represents is very important. Sometimes Atletico felt small, because next door there was Real Madrid, probably the best club in the world for trophies and fame.
"But when you were at our stadium it was different. There you could see that everybody was so proud of their team, they were on our side in that moment and then Monday - wake up, back to work.
"Real Madrid represented something else. Glamour, big stars. But I came from a working-class family. Real did not mean as much to me. My father worked every day, my brother and sister had to travel many hours to study, so Atletico were for people like us.
"Still, I do not think I could play for Real Madrid. I feel if you have the chance to play for Real Madrid you probably have a chance to play for a lot of other clubs, too — so I would pick another club.
"It would be hard for me to live in Madrid with all the Atletico fans. I understand that. I still feel like an Atletico fan and when Liverpool go back to play Real Madrid in the Champions League, I will play as if I am an Atletico fan."
Considering this, one might think Torres would connect more with the lot of Evertonians on Merseyside, but on signing for Liverpool he tapped instantly into the DNA of the club and the city, the way it contrives to be big, but not flash.
Torres has a highly marketable image, a website, and a brand logo which cockily inserts the number nine between his first and last names, but such paraphernalia is pretty standard for a leading sportsman these days. On all other fronts he remains grounded, unblinkingly in tune with his adopted home.
"Liverpool is a massive club in reputation, but as soon as I came here it felt like Atletico to me," he said. "It is a working city, an honest city. The people work all week, and on Saturday they want to go to Anfield and watch the best team in the world. I had many offers in football, I had many big clubs to choose from, so I decided on something more than football.
"The people here, the history, the way everybody comes together, I looked at that and I thought we have the chance to make this one of the greatest clubs in the world, again.
"Now I feel Liverpool is my English club, the way Atletico is my Spanish club. I would not like to play for another English or Spanish club. This feeling is very important to me."
One is immediately reminded of Ruud Gullit who, as manager of Newcastle United, dismissed the significance of the Tyne-Wear derby because Sunderland was a different city. No chance of Torres making a similar mistake about the importance to Liverpool fans of, say, any match against Manchester United.
If anything, Liverpool's imported players can become too aware of the passions around certain games, as Javier Mascherano's performance at Old Trafford last season indicated.
In an era when players kiss the badge one week and ask for a transfer the next, however, it is hard to discourage one who is attempting to turn a contracted job into a vocation.
"When I arrived I knew that Liverpool were a massive club, but that is all I knew," Torres added. "I could not tell you the history or what we stood for; but then my first three days were spent in an apartment. I couldn't go out because I was waiting for my medical and it was all a big secret, so the club sent me a lot of DVDs and books about Liverpool's history.
"I was there with my girlfriend and we were watching and trying to read, because it was all in English, and that is how I found out it was so much bigger than I knew. I read about Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush, and I felt so proud to be sharing in this club.
"When I was with Atletico I was made captain at the age of 19, which was too soon really. It mattered a lot to me and I was disappointed when people came in who knew nothing about us, nothing of our history; they did not understand what made our club different.
"Looking back, we should have done what Liverpool did, because if you know your club, if you know what it stands for and if you are proud of it, you will play better because it will mean something to you.
"You have to know what club you are playing for or you just play for yourself. Every time I put on a Liverpool shirt, I know it is more than just a football game."
The nuances are gleaned over time. Torres said that when he arrived his target was to win the Champions League, but the locals quickly put him straight.
"They would say, "No, no, the Premier League, we must win the Premier League"," he recalled. "So now I feel that way, too. I know about this club. I know how important it is to win the Premier League after 19 years. I know that if Manchester United win the League this season it will be 18 titles for us and 18 for them, so we cannot let that happen.
"I know that even though Chelsea and Arsenal are top teams, our biggest match of any season is with Manchester United. I know how important it is to win against Everton, too.
"I imagine to win the League here would be like winning the European Championship with Spain after 44 years. We became heroes of the country, just 23 people.
"There were 15 kilometres from the airport to the heart of Madrid and it was like a red sea, millions of people in the city centre all with Spanish flags, people stopping dead on the opposite side of the motorway to cheer us as we went by, getting out of their cars, standing on their cars.
"It was strange. After the first game when we beat Russia 4-1, I did think it could be like every other tournament for us, when we start by playing well, but then nothing happens.
"Then when we won our other group games we began to believe in ourselves and the turning point was against Italy in the quarter-finals. Throughout history, Italy beat Spain. We have the game, we have the players, but we always lose.
"And then, when we beat Italy, and on penalties, I think we celebrated more than we did when we won the Final, because we knew. That was the key.
"It is the same with Liverpool. Winning at Chelsea, winning against Manchester United, these are the results that give us belief — then, if we get a result at Old Trafford in March, it will be our Italy game."
And it will, for Fernando Torres, most certainly kick something that means something.
I would not like to play for another English or Spanish club
sure ::)
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lol at Torres spittin his dummy out
Get use to it ya twat
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Manchester City land £14m Craig Bellamy as Milan fans hold Kaka protest
AS MILAN fans mobilised last night against the sale of Kaka to Manchester City for a world record transfer fee of about £100m, it emerged that the English club were set to sign Craig Bellamy from West Ham for a fee of £14m.
The Welsh international striker walked out on his club on Friday when they refused him permission to talk to Tottenham, who were also prepared to pay the asking price. He said he would never play for West Ham again. Harry Redknapp, the Tottenham manager, said that he undestood Bellamy wanted to play for him and that Daniel Levy, the chairman at White Hart Lane, was negotiating his transfer. Last night, however, West Ham insisted that they would not do business with their principal London rivals and agreed terms with City.
Mark Hughes, City’s manager, yesterday acknowledged that signing Kaka from Milan will be more complicated. While he said that he was optimistic about landing the Brazilian, Hughes added: “We’re a million miles away from actually concluding the deal.” And there were reports that Real Madrid were also in touch with the player about a summer move.
Huge pressure was applied to Kaka last night not to leave the club where he has made his name and with whom he won the Champions League 20 months ago. Milan fans had been campaigning against his departure for more than 24 hours before last night’s kick-off against Fiorentina and prepared a raucous reception at San Siro. Smoke bombs were released and abusive chants directed at the club’s executives. Police confiscated a banner calling unofficial club president Silvio Berlusconi a “traitor”.
Berlusconi had earlier said on behalf of Milan: “It is hard to stand in the way of a lad who has his career ahead of him and might regret a decision for the rest of his life when he is being offered earnings far higher than he has now. A club like ours cannot simply double a player’s wages while we have to respect the rest of the squad.” Milan general manager Ariedo Braida was reported to have confirmed to guests in the stadium that the clubs had reached a deal.
City are expected to offer Kaka a contract worth as much as £14m a year. The player’s father, Bosco Leite, who also acts as his agent, is expected to arrive in Lombardy tomorrow to meet City representatives. Kaka is understood to want, above his basic package, a further £2.5m as compensation for the lack of imminent Champions League football, City being too low in the Premier League to qualify next season. He is also thought to have asked for a £58.6m release clause that can be triggered next January if City have not met a list of unspecified “requests”.
Milan, third in the Serie A table, had come under criticism from supporters for their strategy of supplementing an ageing squad with players such as Ronaldinho, no longer wanted at Barcelona, and David Beckham, who joined the club on a two-month loan this month. Kaka, who turns 27 in April, also expressed his discomfort at having to adjust his role in the team to accommodate Ronaldinho.
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Ahh, so you were being serious.. I thought you were smarter, my mis-judgment.
Just sick of people having a pop at my club, Just because it's not United or Chelsea with all the money.
Fuck me there even blaming us for the fuckin credit crunch now.
like i say, people should worry about owners who cant afford there club.
People weren't "popping" at Chelsea when Abramovic entered?
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Kuruption u sad RAG Had a bit more respect for u, but not bin on here 4 a while.
Stop getting jealous just because u lot cant afford Hermon Munster AKA Teves.
WILL BUY YA CLUB AND BURN IT DOWN, WILL BUY YA CLUB AND BURN IT DOWN
M.C.F.C FOOTBALL KILLERS muhahahaha
All this hate by the media is making me laugh, do u think if United had the money they would not want to buy him????
United have bin buying the league for years, but no mention of that.
Now it's our fuckin turn
Jealous of city lol . Whats there to be jealous of ? We are top of the league, current premiership/european/ world champions. Where as city are in the lower half of the league.
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Disgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.
Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.
Trust me mate the guy is here for a long time,
Manchester City are running the club within it's means.
Unlike other clubs that are full of debt (cough cough United)
I think FIFA should look into owners who cant afford, what they have bought.
We may be in debt but we were recently valued at 1.2 billion so if we had to pay up the debt it wouldnt be a problem. Where as city dont even own there ground.
In all honesty i dont care how much money city have because the limited success they have will only be short lived. Just as Chelsea found out, no idea city will buy a whole new squad (coz there current team is shit) but that doesnt mean there going to win anything.
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Just sick of people having a pop at my club, Just because it's not United or Chelsea with all the money.
Fuck me there even blaming us for the fuckin credit crunch now.
like i say, people should worry about owners who cant afford there club.
People weren't "popping" at Chelsea when Abramovic entered?
My point exactly.. people still call Chelsea Chel$ki, and they don't get any respect or bravos from rival fans when they win something.
The common attitude is "They better fuckin win something with all that cash spent"..
Best believe if United, Pool & Arse suddenly had Billions to spend, the "pops" would be exactly the same, if not bigger.
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who cares about respect or bravos from rival fans ? ::)
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who cares about respect or bravos from rival fans ? ::)
Any club with a little bit of self-respect, integrity or ambitions, just to take an example.
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Disgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.
Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.
Trust me mate the guy is here for a long time,
Manchester City are running the club within it's means.
Unlike other clubs that are full of debt (cough cough United)
I think FIFA should look into owners who cant afford, what they have bought.
We may be in debt but we were recently valued at 1.2 billion so if we had to pay up the debt it wouldnt be a problem. Where as city dont even own there ground.
In all honesty i dont care how much money city have because the limited success they have will only be short lived. Just as Chelsea found out, no idea city will buy a whole new squad (coz there current team is shit) but that doesnt mean there going to win anything.
Do u realy think our owner wont buy our ground???
your in debt no matter how u look at it.
Even ya sponsors are skint.
Anyway stop being obsessed with City, and go and support your local team.
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who cares about respect or bravos from rival fans ? ::)
Any club with a little bit of self-respect, integrity or ambitions, just to take an example.
This is football we are talking about here??
Who gives a fuck about what other fans think lol
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who cares about respect or bravos from rival fans ? ::)
Any club with a little bit of self-respect, integrity or ambitions, just to take an example.
sure ::)
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lol @ getting untold millions and buying craig bellamy
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Its not Man City's fault. They have money, thats great. I suppose let them spend it. But when youre offering 100 million for a player its about time FIFA stepped in and just put a stop to it. The only way to do it is do create a cap. Or give each team salaries or something. "You can only spent this much on these types of players, foreign, home, etc".
I respect Man City as a club but 100 million is too much money. Chelsea is the same in my opinion. I think the maximum amount you are allowed to pay for a player should be 40 million. The wage cape should be nothing over 70/75 grand a week. Thats it, simple as. No if's or buts, nothing. No player is even worth that amount of money but I think a cap is definetly necessary in order to stop this ignorant ruining of the beautiful game.
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Disgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.
Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.
Trust me mate the guy is here for a long time,
Manchester City are running the club within it's means.
Unlike other clubs that are full of debt (cough cough United)
I think FIFA should look into owners who cant afford, what they have bought.
We may be in debt but we were recently valued at 1.2 billion so if we had to pay up the debt it wouldnt be a problem. Where as city dont even own there ground.
In all honesty i dont care how much money city have because the limited success they have will only be short lived. Just as Chelsea found out, no idea city will buy a whole new squad (coz there current team is shit) but that doesnt mean there going to win anything.
Do u realy think our owner wont buy our ground???
your in debt no matter how u look at it.
Even ya sponsors are skint.
Anyway stop being obsessed with City, and go and support your local team.
Why would anyone be obsessed with city ?
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Disgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.
Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.
Trust me mate the guy is here for a long time,
Manchester City are running the club within it's means.
Unlike other clubs that are full of debt (cough cough United)
I think FIFA should look into owners who cant afford, what they have bought.
We may be in debt but we were recently valued at 1.2 billion so if we had to pay up the debt it wouldnt be a problem. Where as city dont even own there ground.
In all honesty i dont care how much money city have because the limited success they have will only be short lived. Just as Chelsea found out, no idea city will buy a whole new squad (coz there current team is shit) but that doesnt mean there going to win anything.
Do u realy think our owner wont buy our ground???
your in debt no matter how u look at it.
Even ya sponsors are skint.
Anyway stop being obsessed with City, and go and support your local team.
Why would anyone be obsessed with city ?
Well your fans are
Every 5 minutes in 1 of your games your singing 1 of ya shit nursery rhyme songs about City.
Pete Boyle must be your hero lol
Even in this thread u had to have a pop
Like i say Obsessed
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lol @ getting untold millions and buying craig bellamy
:laugh:
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Its not Man City's fault. They have money, thats great. I suppose let them spend it. But when youre offering 100 million for a player its about time FIFA stepped in and just put a stop to it. The only way to do it is do create a cap. Or give each team salaries or something. "You can only spent this much on these types of players, foreign, home, etc".
I respect Man City as a club but 100 million is too much money. Chelsea is the same in my opinion. I think the maximum amount you are allowed to pay for a player should be 40 million. The wage cape should be nothing over 70/75 grand a week. Thats it, simple as. No if's or buts, nothing. No player is even worth that amount of money but I think a cap is definetly necessary in order to stop this ignorant ruining of the beautiful game.
It's too late for a salary cap
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so bill gates going all in and buying the 3 best players in the world at each position, that is how soccer is supposed to be according to you? teams should only spend money they acquired in their business, from real sponsors and shit, not from camel jerkers
this camel jerker is the new LEGIT owner of the manchester city.
"teams should only spend money they acquired in their busines"
WELCOME TO 30 YEARS AGO
he's fucking right- these guys ruin football, how you can call it a fair competition when some rich fucks keep foobtall clubs as a toy? A football club belongs to the fans, and not to some oil arabs who doesn't even identify. But I don't expect a Inter fan to understand this... If Manchester City wins a national trophy in 2 years only because some dude give them let's say 500m €, how can you call that an achievement?
But professional football as a sport died a long time ago anyway. It's all about money and business, fuck it.
They drive real fans out of the stadiums -those that create the atmosphere- with horrible prices and replace them with wealthy wannabe fans, just to raise the wager of those moneywhores and their greedy agents.
It's pretty amusing tho, look at Chelski, Abramovic invested nearly 800 million in 5 years, and they haven't even won the CL. Now that he's lost so much money, he won't buy them new players, and soon as he loses interest, he'll leave them with so much debts they'll never recover. Man City has destiny.
You are a borussia dortmund fan,your club is shit and will always be SHIT.
I don't expect a Borussia fan to understand anything
I dont know why you need to be such an ignorant dickhead about things m8, Inter are a HUGE club, one of the most famous and successfull in the world. But so are Dortmund and only a fool would deny that, Dortmund are now a mid table side, with no money, they even had to sell the name of their famous stadium....but they still get 80 000 in attendances. That is phenomonal. If Inter suddenly went broke, had to sell their best players and started considering a Uefa Cup spot a great season, would their fans stay loyal and still turn up in their thousands? Im not sure.
Although im sure you will just come back with some ignorant response, i think you need to do a bit of research m8, Dortmund are a massive, great club.
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SURE ::)
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Just like i thought, never mind dude. Talk to me when you hit puberty...
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it was an ignorant response ? :loco:
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ah,i forgot that y'all are forever friends ::)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc276/orgi_hoernchen/Celtic.jpg)
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I reckon Dortmund as a sleeping giant. And I'll bet they will be back in CL sometime soon.
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who gives a fuck about the b.dortmund ? this thread is about the manchester city
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Seems to me like you guys are always discussing Dortmund.
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Kaka deal: Manchester City say 'It's now or never'
A delegation from Manchester City will fly to Milan this morning to try to secure an astonishing £103 million deal to sign Kaká. Mark Hughes, the City manager, warned that the club “cannot hang about” if they are serious about their intention to acquire the former World Player of the Year.
City held a first round of negotiations with AC Milan about the proposed world-record deal on Tuesday and were encouraged to return to Italy today for a second meeting. Garry Cook, the executive chairman, and Simon Pearce, a representative of Sheikh Mansour, City's wealthy owner, are scheduled to arrive in Milan this morning for a meeting at which they hope to persuade Kaká to join a club who are four points above the relegation zone in the Barclays Premier League.
Cook and Pearce expect to hold further negotiations with Adriano Galliani, the Milan vice-president, today, but also, more critically, they hope to hold face-to-face discussions with Bosco Leite, Kaká's father and principal adviser.
Doubts have been raised about whether Kaká truly wishes to join City, who have offered him a contract that is potentially worth a staggering £500,000 a week. But, having been surprised by Milan's indication that they would sell, the Brazil forward has authorised his father to listen to City's sales pitch. If Kaká chooses to stay in Milan in the short term, Real Madrid are likely to make a renewed bid for his services at the end of the season.
City, who are also close to completing the signings of Nigel de Jong, the Hamburg and Holland midfield player, and Craig Bellamy, the West Ham United and Wales striker, are aware of this and, while Galliani insists that nothing will be decided imminently, Hughes believes that the club will not have a better chance to sign one of the world's elite players.
“It may be that in future a deal to bring Kaká to Manchester City will not present itself again, so, when it does, you have to follow it through,” Hughes said yesterday. “You can't hang about and think we'll wait until the next transfer window.
“You have to react when it presents itself. Timescales go out of the window when you are trying to do deals for players. You have to react quickly when the opportunity comes to acquire a player of that standard.
“We look at Kaká and it works for us. It works for me, it works for the club from a business point of view and we will try and make it happen.”
By far the biggest threat to the planned coup is Kaká's state of mind. While Galliani and even Silvio Berlusconi, the Milan owner, appear to have reconciled themselves to selling him, Kaká is known to have reservations about the deal and will need to be persuaded that City can live up to their grandiose plan to become the biggest club on the planet.
He will have to be persuaded about future transfer plans and, if he is to sign, he is expected to request a get-out clause in his contract that would allow him to leave at the end of next season if City have not qualified for the Champions League in 2010-11.
Milan supporters protested against the sale of Kaká during their 1-0 victory over Fiorentina on Saturday evening, but Galliani suggested last night that the club were having their hand forced by economic reality. “We could not fail to think about this [deal] during the world crisis,” he said. “A club with a healthy balance has more certainties of going forward in time, [but] don't think that those who manage Milan do not have sentiments.”
Hughes, who will take his players away on a winter training camp today, has said that, with several complicated contractual and commercial issues to be addressed, he expects the deal to rumble on. He is more confident, however, that De Jong and Bellamy will join the club within days.
In Bellamy's absence yesterday, West Ham beat Fulham 3-1 at Upton Park, while a goal from Jermain Defoe, his first since returning to White Hart Lane, earned Tottenham Hotspur a point in a 1-1 draw against Portsmouth, his former club.
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fuck man city
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Its not Man City's fault. They have money, thats great. I suppose let them spend it. But when youre offering 100 million for a player its about time FIFA stepped in and just put a stop to it. The only way to do it is do create a cap. Or give each team salaries or something. "You can only spent this much on these types of players, foreign, home, etc".
I respect Man City as a club but 100 million is too much money. Chelsea is the same in my opinion. I think the maximum amount you are allowed to pay for a player should be 40 million. The wage cape should be nothing over 70/75 grand a week. Thats it, simple as. No if's or buts, nothing. No player is even worth that amount of money but I think a cap is definetly necessary in order to stop this ignorant ruining of the beautiful game.
It's too late for a salary cap
Hows that? Fifa just say "we have introduced a salary cap. Everyone that was on 75 grand a week, you are now on 50. No player would want to move clubs because they would be on exactly the same at another. Easy.
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Just like i thought, never mind dude. Talk to me when you hit puberty...
don't waste your time and argue with this guy, it's hopeless... he seems to be obsessed with faeces, in every post you can read bla...bla....shit.... more bla
I reckon Dortmund as a sleeping giant. And I'll bet they will be back in CL sometime soon.
We won't be playing in CL anytime soon... bayern has reserved one spot out of three, then there's Hoffenheim with their billionaire, Leverkusen and Wolfsburg, two clubs without tradition and fans but who are backed by companies ( Bayer and Volkswagen), Schalke with Gazprom, plus Hamburg and bremen, who are comparable money wise but who have a better team atm.
who gives a fuck about the b.dortmund ? this thread is about the manchester city
you started that dickhead.
btw. Robinho already left the training camp yesterday, looks like he's not satisfied. Believe me, man City will not reach the Cl within the next 2 1/2 years, I predict this project will fail.
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Disgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.
Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.
Trust me mate the guy is here for a long time,
Manchester City are running the club within it's means.
Unlike other clubs that are full of debt (cough cough United)
I think FIFA should look into owners who cant afford, what they have bought.
We may be in debt but we were recently valued at 1.2 billion so if we had to pay up the debt it wouldnt be a problem. Where as city dont even own there ground.
In all honesty i dont care how much money city have because the limited success they have will only be short lived. Just as Chelsea found out, no idea city will buy a whole new squad (coz there current team is shit) but that doesnt mean there going to win anything.
Do u realy think our owner wont buy our ground???
your in debt no matter how u look at it.
Even ya sponsors are skint.
Anyway stop being obsessed with City, and go and support your local team.
Why would anyone be obsessed with city ?
Well your fans are
Every 5 minutes in 1 of your games your singing 1 of ya shit nursery rhyme songs about City.
Pete Boyle must be your hero lol
Even in this thread u had to have a pop
Like i say Obsessed
Lol so city dont sings songs about united at games ???
Of course i was gonna have a pop would you expect any difference from a fan of a rival club.
Pete Boyle has come up with some decent chants over the years like the o shea one which Liverpool have ripped off for torres but he is far from my hero !
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What's the O'Shea one mate?
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What's the O'Shea one mate?
http://uk.youtube.com/v/SSSPxg81FpE