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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: M Dogg™ on January 31, 2006, 03:00:20 PM
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I wrote a whole Junkyard about Game, but I do have some shit I am worried about him. I have no questions he can rap now, as since The Documentry came out, his done nothing but improve. But he has spent 660 bars dissing G-Unit in one form or another. That's more bars than most rap albums have. He has some great lines, and I think his proving that 50 Cent greatest mistake is dumping Game. BUT, whatelse does he have. His proving to be a great battle rapper, but so is Jadakiss, but Jada struggles to go platnum. I think his on his path to be the westcoast Jada, great battle rapper, but wouldn't take off like it was thought he would. He was 50's best G-Unit partner. Lloyd Banks flopped, Young Buck was second to Game, Yayo is wack, Olivia is not dropping, Spider is worst than Yayo, Mobb Deep is as wasted up as the Dogg Pound with Prodigy falling off harsh, and MOP needs major work to be commerical. 50 should have never dropped Game, but is Game draining himself trying to win this senseless battle with a crew that is obviously falling off? What you think?
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some very good points, but I hope you are wrong. I guess we will have to wait till Doctor's Advocate drops. I have a feeling this is the album that is gonna will make or break Game cuz he has to prove he actually has something to say and he can stand on his two feet witout gunit.
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I feel like dude is pigeon holeing himself... he should focus on what he says 50 didnt do for him which is make a fuckin song... the documentary has been done and released over a year now and there has been 660 bars of disses, and 4 side artist appearances but nothing new to radio from this guy.... i dont understand it... he's still rappin over other peoples beats... why nt use NJ Devil beats if he's so hot??? All he can do is prove everybody wrong by making some banging ass music for dolo... which after 12 months he has yet to do without 50....
And on a side not... 50/Interscope is gonna leak the original version of "hate it or love it" which has 50 rapping the entire song which was the demo for Game to learn the lyrics to record the song... i think somoething like that will be the last nail in the coffin for ol boy
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if u listen carefully to game.. 50 never dropped him.. 50 is claiming to have dropped him to make himself seem bigger.. but game was never signed to him in the first place... its all PR, politricks, and bullshit
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I feel like dude is pigeon holeing himself... he should focus on what he says 50 didnt do for him which is make a fuckin song... the documentary has been done and released over a year now and there has been 660 bars of disses, and 4 side artist appearances but nothing new to radio from this guy.... i dont understand it... he's still rappin over other peoples beats... why nt use NJ Devil beats if he's so hot??? All he can do is prove everybody wrong by making some banging ass music for dolo... which after 12 months he has yet to do without 50....
And on a side not... 50/Interscope is gonna leak the original version of "hate it or love it" which has 50 rapping the entire song which was the demo for Game to learn the lyrics to record the song... i think somoething like that will be the last nail in the coffin for ol boy
My Lowrider is getting a good amount of airplay here in LA. And how do you know that 50 didn't just record the song after Game left. Anyways Game's gotten way better since leving G-Unit while they are on a major decline.
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some very good points, but I hope you are wrong.
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I wrote a whole Junkyard about Game, but I do have some shit I am worried about him. I have no questions he can rap now, as since The Documentry came out, his done nothing but improve. But he has spent 660 bars dissing G-Unit in one form or another. That's more bars than most rap albums have. He has some great lines, and I think his proving that 50 Cent greatest mistake is dumping Game. BUT, whatelse does he have. His proving to be a great battle rapper, but so is Jadakiss, but Jada struggles to go platnum. I think his on his path to be the westcoast Jada, great battle rapper, but wouldn't take off like it was thought he would. He was 50's best G-Unit partner. Lloyd Banks flopped, Young Buck was second to Game, Yayo is wack, Olivia is not dropping, Spider is worst than Yayo, Mobb Deep is as wasted up as the Dogg Pound with Prodigy falling off harsh, and MOP needs major work to be commerical. 50 should have never dropped Game, but is Game draining himself trying to win this senseless battle with a crew that is obviously falling off? What you think?
How did Banks Flop when he sold almost 2MILLION Units, AND he do got good rymez??
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50 should have never dropped Game, but is Game draining himself trying to win this senseless battle with a crew that is obviously falling off? What you think?
Yes.
some very good points, but I hope you are wrong.
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Lloyd Banks flopped,
Nah man, the guy sold almost 2 mill in the US, almost as much as Game. Don't make up shit. And I'm I the only one who thinks game is getting worse? Every track is taking shots at g-unit, and with no results. Maybe he should get back to his roots and start rapping like a real west coast artist.
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game was signed to g-unit for a one album deal. the reason why he's getting pulled from appearances and can't put shit out is that he's technically a g-unit artist until his next album drops. this is why 50 can use little clauses in the contract to block song and video appearances.
and yeah, he needs to stop dissing and NJD needs to become a more diverse producer.
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mobb deep & mop have put out nothin but heat on g-unit
game needs to forget about g-unit though, or he will turn into the westcoast jadakiss
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game needs to forget about g-unit though, or he will turn into the westcoast jadakiss
I doubt that
"The Documentary">>>>Any Jadakiss album>>>>Any 50 Cent album
Im expecting the Dr. Advocate to be superior to The Documentary since Game has grown so much as a lyricist. You know that Game is gonna get the dopest beats for his next album.
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I wrote a whole Junkyard about Game, but I do have some shit I am worried about him. I have no questions he can rap now, as since The Documentry came out, his done nothing but improve. But he has spent 660 bars dissing G-Unit in one form or another. That's more bars than most rap albums have. He has some great lines, and I think his proving that 50 Cent greatest mistake is dumping Game. BUT, whatelse does he have. His proving to be a great battle rapper, but so is Jadakiss, but Jada struggles to go platnum. I think his on his path to be the westcoast Jada, great battle rapper, but wouldn't take off like it was thought he would. He was 50's best G-Unit partner. Lloyd Banks flopped, Young Buck was second to Game, Yayo is wack, Olivia is not dropping, Spider is worst than Yayo, Mobb Deep is as wasted up as the Dogg Pound with Prodigy falling off harsh, and MOP needs major work to be commerical. 50 should have never dropped Game, but is Game draining himself trying to win this senseless battle with a crew that is obviously falling off? What you think?
This is really pessemistic. Just because he chooses to diss G-Unit on mixtapes doesn't mean he's Jadakiss. The Documentary sold around 5 million copies worldwide, and the majority of the people who bouht it thought it was dope. If Game still has Dre executive producing his album and providing beats his next album will sell. And why the hell would he waste his real songs on mixtapes, of course he's just using the mixtapes to diss.
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agreed 100% that he should stop wasting his time on this sadass bullshit beef. its like wit all westocoast cats, these sad lil beefs r just straight up pathetic. hopefully the doctors advocate is dope. i doubt itll out sell documentary cuz 50's sadass wont be on it so them white gurls aint gonna buy it but i just hope its better lyrically and beat wise most likely will be good cuz dre is on it.
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as long as Game is in some way still connected to Aftermath/Interscope he will be fine.I have a feeling though i think Dre isnt down with the gangstat shit anymore and may just let Game go.I hope Everything works out for game cuz dude is getting better everytime.
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as long as Game is in some way still connected to Aftermath/Interscope he will be fine.I have a feeling though i think Dre isnt down with the gangstat shit anymore and may just let Game go.I hope Everything works out for game cuz dude is getting better everytime.
What makes you think that about Dre?
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I wrote a whole Junkyard about Game, but I do have some shit I am worried about him. I have no questions he can rap now, as since The Documentry came out, his done nothing but improve. But he has spent 660 bars dissing G-Unit in one form or another. That's more bars than most rap albums have. He has some great lines, and I think his proving that 50 Cent greatest mistake is dumping Game. BUT, whatelse does he have. His proving to be a great battle rapper, but so is Jadakiss, but Jada struggles to go platnum. I think his on his path to be the westcoast Jada, great battle rapper, but wouldn't take off like it was thought he would. He was 50's best G-Unit partner. Lloyd Banks flopped, Young Buck was second to Game, Yayo is wack, Olivia is not dropping, Spider is worst than Yayo, Mobb Deep is as wasted up as the Dogg Pound with Prodigy falling off harsh, and MOP needs major work to be commerical. 50 should have never dropped Game, but is Game draining himself trying to win this senseless battle with a crew that is obviously falling off? What you think?
This is really pessemistic. Just because he chooses to diss G-Unit on mixtapes doesn't mean he's Jadakiss. The Documentary sold around 5 million copies worldwide, and the majority of the people who bouht it thought it was dope. If Game still has Dre executive producing his album and providing beats his next album will sell. And why the hell would he waste his real songs on mixtapes, of course he's just using the mixtapes to diss.
Many bought it because 50 Cent was on the first 2 singles. His beef with 50 and G-Unit has stayed in the underground, where the MTV/106 and Park crowd doesn't hear it, and that's who buys the CDs. They see 50 diss Game, and just trash him on his interviews saying how much of a wannabe he is, and the MTV girl is agreeing. And without Game on MTV, his not defending himself against the people that buy the record. The streets say Game got G-Unit, and that his taking them down, BUT, they also support Jada, and Jada can diss people all day. Game is turning into Jada, not that it's a bad thing because Game has improved so much that the streets are supporting him. It's a matter of selling, and representing the west. He needs to do what Dre did with Eazy and release a hit single dissing the shit outta 50, and get the young kids on his side.
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whoever said. m.o.p an m.o.b.b av only dropped hot since joinin..
have u heard 300 bars....
fanze sorta rips it...everyone else was awful...the beat didnt really help though....
an game has internatinal recognition....llyod banks gets no luv watsoeva over here...he created a li buzz wit on fire then lost it wit im so fly...
an young buck an yayo were hardly even acknowledged....
games shit is still gettn plays on the radio here too....
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game needs to forget about g-unit though, or he will turn into the westcoast jadakiss
I doubt that
"The Documentary">>>>Any Jadakiss album>>>>Any 50 Cent album
Im expecting the Dr. Advocate to be superior to The Documentary since Game has grown so much as a lyricist. You know that Game is gonna get the dopest beats for his next album.
since when was the documentary better than power of the dollar or GRODT?
oh wait
it wasnt
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whoever said. m.o.p an m.o.b.b av only dropped hot since joinin..
have u heard 300 bars....
fanze sorta rips it...everyone else was awful...the beat didnt really help though....
an game has internatinal recognition....llyod banks gets no luv watsoeva over here...he created a li buzz wit on fire then lost it wit im so fly...
an young buck an yayo were hardly even acknowledged....
games shit is still gettn plays on the radio here too....
by "here too" do u mean the UK?
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game needs to forget about g-unit though, or he will turn into the westcoast jadakiss
I doubt that
"The Documentary">>>>Any Jadakiss album>>>>Any 50 Cent album
Im expecting the Dr. Advocate to be superior to The Documentary since Game has grown so much as a lyricist. You know that Game is gonna get the dopest beats for his next album.
since when was the documentary better than power of the dollar or GRODT?
oh wait
it wasnt
And lol at saying Lloyd Banks and Buck flopped.They went 2x platinum.
Someone explain to me how is GUnit falling?Maybe music wise but they are still selling a lot.GRODT Ost went platinum in 2 weeks.
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yep....50's totally over-saturated over here....he still gets play but no-one else from unit does...an most of the radio dj's hate him lol...i think jo wileys pretty keen on him tho...
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the last time i heard one of the games songs on the radio was just after put you on the game came out, it was on some rubbish local radio station and got played about twice
whereas radio1, which can get about 8 million listeners, plays 50 cent daily
50 cent releases new music, unlike the game whos still stuck on mixtapes which dont get heard by the people who he wants to buy his record(which wont come out)
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power of the dollar shits all over doc.... you can't denie that.... buck + banks didn't flop, Mobb will go platinum... the rest is true though, o ye and game needs to put sum mo effort in his rhymes, no wack ass name dropping shit or covering his own songs (A Playa's Game)
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game was signed to g-unit for a one album deal. the reason why he's getting pulled from appearances and can't put shit out is that he's technically a g-unit artist until his next album drops. this is why 50 can use little clauses in the contract to block song and video appearances.
and yeah, he needs to stop dissing and NJD needs to become a more diverse producer.
nope.. he was NEVER signed to g-unit as an artist. or for an album.. Dre+50 put something together for promo.. but game never signed a damn thing.. game/dre/interscope 'used' 50/g-unit as a promotional tool..
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game was signed to g-unit for a one album deal. the reason why he's getting pulled from appearances and can't put shit out is that he's technically a g-unit artist until his next album drops. this is why 50 can use little clauses in the contract to block song and video appearances.
and yeah, he needs to stop dissing and NJD needs to become a more diverse producer.
nope.. he was NEVER signed to g-unit as an artist. or for an album.. Dre+50 put something together for promo.. but game never signed a damn thing.. game/dre/interscope 'used' 50/g-unit as a promotional tool..
how do u know that?
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I feel like dude is pigeon holeing himself... he should focus on what he says 50 didnt do for him which is make a fuckin song... the documentary has been done and released over a year now and there has been 660 bars of disses, and 4 side artist appearances but nothing new to radio from this guy.... i dont understand it... he's still rappin over other peoples beats... why nt use NJ Devil beats if he's so hot??? All he can do is prove everybody wrong by making some banging ass music for dolo... which after 12 months he has yet to do without 50....
And on a side not... 50/Interscope is gonna leak the original version of "hate it or love it" which has 50 rapping the entire song which was the demo for Game to learn the lyrics to record the song... i think somoething like that will be the last nail in the coffin for ol boy
My Lowrider is getting a good amount of airplay here in LA. And how do you know that 50 didn't just record the song after Game left. Anyways Game's gotten way better since leving G-Unit while they are on a major decline.
U talkin about the song that has 10 other rappers on it... thats not hot i only heard it a cpl time sin LA im talkin about a record that gets as much attention as "How We Do" wit Game for dolo... no guest apperance no celebrity sponsors...
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game was signed to g-unit for a one album deal. the reason why he's getting pulled from appearances and can't put shit out is that he's technically a g-unit artist until his next album drops. this is why 50 can use little clauses in the contract to block song and video appearances.
and yeah, he needs to stop dissing and NJD needs to become a more diverse producer.
nope.. he was NEVER signed to g-unit as an artist. or for an album.. Dre+50 put something together for promo.. but game never signed a damn thing.. game/dre/interscope 'used' 50/g-unit as a promotional tool..
how do u know that?
watch game's dvd..
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game was signed to g-unit for a one album deal. the reason why he's getting pulled from appearances and can't put shit out is that he's technically a g-unit artist until his next album drops. this is why 50 can use little clauses in the contract to block song and video appearances.
and yeah, he needs to stop dissing and NJD needs to become a more diverse producer.
nope.. he was NEVER signed to g-unit as an artist. or for an album.. Dre+50 put something together for promo.. but game never signed a damn thing.. game/dre/interscope 'used' 50/g-unit as a promotional tool..
how do u know that?
watch game's dvd..
so says game
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game was signed to g-unit for a one album deal. the reason why he's getting pulled from appearances and can't put shit out is that he's technically a g-unit artist until his next album drops. this is why 50 can use little clauses in the contract to block song and video appearances.
and yeah, he needs to stop dissing and NJD needs to become a more diverse producer.
nope.. he was NEVER signed to g-unit as an artist. or for an album.. Dre+50 put something together for promo.. but game never signed a damn thing.. game/dre/interscope 'used' 50/g-unit as a promotional tool..
how do u know that?
watch game's dvd..
the dvd also blurred out HIS OWN CD, just like it did the lloyd banks ones, and the yayo ones
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game was signed to g-unit for a one album deal. the reason why he's getting pulled from appearances and can't put shit out is that he's technically a g-unit artist until his next album drops. this is why 50 can use little clauses in the contract to block song and video appearances.
and yeah, he needs to stop dissing and NJD needs to become a more diverse producer.
nope.. he was NEVER signed to g-unit as an artist. or for an album.. Dre+50 put something together for promo.. but game never signed a damn thing.. game/dre/interscope 'used' 50/g-unit as a promotional tool..
Thats not true... now they did use the 'G-Unit" brand to launch Game... but 50 being a shrewed businessman made sure it was contractual obligations made in is favor... and that is in regards to his points/percentage he earns off of Game's album... his publishing interest with regards to Game's writing which is why he can deny Game from appearing on a record because if Game writes something 50 owns more if those lyrics than GAme himself, and has the ability as the majority percentage holder to deny the song. out of 100% publishing you can own as an artist Game only owns 12.5% of his own after everyone took their share... u guys need to look past your personal emotions... this is business and dude constant lies to you fans and you guys cant even see it... lied that he owned the whole block of brazil & wilmington... lied that he's a real blood/piru, lied about being a stripper, now he wants you to beleive he call sht... on the real he wants to be 50... he does whatever 50 does... 50 do a movie ima do a movie (low budget but fuck it), shoe deal (wack but fuck it, ill lie and make people thinks its hot) Shit i aint seena nigga yet wit no hurricanes on in compton or the suburbs, shit i aint even seen it in stores!!!!)...SSSL dvd aint sellin like that... Oh do ya'll remmeber the documentary DVD that came out after the album, the videos and an unreleased track which didnt feature 50, a mystery!!! It moved NADA units... an attempt for Game to get some $ cuz he's see's so lil from his album sales. Im just pointing out the real...
Game said it himself "It took 2 months but 50 got it done, signed wit G-Unit had the hood like huh"
He was already signed to Dre, when 50 stepped in it took 2 months to negotiate his interest and get ready to roll out....
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freewayricky is right overseer, u need to stop believing this guys bullshit, 50 quite obviously has him under contract, and his second album wont get released
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GAME"S OWN CD was blurred out... know why????? Cuz 50 owns more of that disc than anyone, Dre included so he declined to clear the lkness for the DVD....
I tell you this GAme is a good lier.... he says anything but if you look alil deeper you can see whats really real...
U cant even control your own product...
but you said u never signed anything??? So can you guys figure why he cant show is own album on a DVD that he put out... or how about any music on there from his album???
Fans, stop goin for the okie doke... it's col to like dude, i bought the Documentary... but i dint like to be misled I buy my music product based on the music and the realness of the artist... but fuckin wit dude is almost like fuckin wit Rupaul...
thinking it something was but then it wasnt!!!
oh yeah and on a side note... niggaz talk all this tough talk on record but when Billborad got murdered, you did nuthin??? Not to say you had to yourself but you didnt even have the lil homies ride for dude... But you suposed to be a real nigga, a tru piru, but you will use his death on your DVD, even cry... all dramamtics & cinematix to sell your album...
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Jip, if his 2nd album Does get released it will be on Geffen like Spider said... I knwo for a fact that he has a lbum recorded that he has played industry people (at the label) and they not feeling it... on top of that it has no Dre production thus far... he had a few Dre beats that he has 2 tracked that he received for his 1st album but Dre hasnt touched them...
the album features production form the same dudes from the first album Just Blaze, Kanye, Cool & Dre... no westcoast production... Shit the whole thing to date was recorded in NYC...
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thats what i meant, if he doesnt release anything on aftermath, he isnt going to sell
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Jip, if his 2nd album Does get released it will be on Geffen like Spider said... I knwo for a fact that he has a lbum recorded that he has played industry people (at the label) and they not feeling it... on top of that it has no Dre production thus far... he had a few Dre beats that he has 2 tracked that he received for his 1st album but Dre hasnt touched them...
the album features production form the same dudes from the first album Just Blaze, Kanye, Cool & Dre... no westcoast production... Shit the whole thing to date was recorded in NYC...
game was signed to g-unit for a one album deal. the reason why he's getting pulled from appearances and can't put shit out is that he's technically a g-unit artist until his next album drops. this is why 50 can use little clauses in the contract to block song and video appearances.
and yeah, he needs to stop dissing and NJD needs to become a more diverse producer.
nope.. he was NEVER signed to g-unit as an artist. or for an album.. Dre+50 put something together for promo.. but game never signed a damn thing.. game/dre/interscope 'used' 50/g-unit as a promotional tool..
Thats not true... now they did use the 'G-Unit" brand to launch Game... but 50 being a shrewed businessman made sure it was contractual obligations made in is favor... and that is in regards to his points/percentage he earns off of Game's album... his publishing interest with regards to Game's writing which is why he can deny Game from appearing on a record because if Game writes something 50 owns more if those lyrics than GAme himself, and has the ability as the majority percentage holder to deny the song. out of 100% publishing you can own as an artist Game only owns 12.5% of his own after everyone took their share... u guys need to look past your personal emotions... this is business and dude constant lies to you fans and you guys cant even see it... lied that he owned the whole block of brazil & wilmington... lied that he's a real blood/piru, lied about being a stripper, now he wants you to beleive he call sht... on the real he wants to be 50... he does whatever 50 does... 50 do a movie ima do a movie (low budget but fuck it), shoe deal (wack but fuck it, ill lie and make people thinks its hot) Shit i aint seena nigga yet wit no hurricanes on in compton or the suburbs, shit i aint even seen it in stores!!!!)...SSSL dvd aint sellin like that... Oh do ya'll remmeber the documentary DVD that came out after the album, the videos and an unreleased track which didnt feature 50, a mystery!!! It moved NADA units... an attempt for Game to get some $ cuz he's see's so lil from his album sales. Im just pointing out the real...
Game said it himself "It took 2 months but 50 got it done, signed wit G-Unit had the hood like huh"
He was already signed to Dre, when 50 stepped in it took 2 months to negotiate his interest and get ready to roll out....
How the hell do you know all that?
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if u listen carefully to game.. 50 never dropped him.. 50 is claiming to have dropped him to make himself seem bigger.. but game was never signed to him in the first place... its all PR, politricks, and bullshit
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if u listen carefully to game.. 50 never dropped him.. 50 is claiming to have dropped him to make himself seem bigger.. but game was never signed to him in the first place... its all PR, politricks, and bullshit
once again, why wasnt he allowed to show his own cd on the dvd
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if u listen carefully to game.. 50 never dropped him.. 50 is claiming to have dropped him to make himself seem bigger.. but game was never signed to him in the first place... its all PR, politricks, and bullshit
yeah the funny thing is game posted that he only signed a 1 album deal with g-unit a few days before 50 dissed him on hot 97
game's flow has gotten a lot better. and his hooks are gettin there too. "The Doctors Advocate" should be interesting
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if u listen carefully to game.. 50 never dropped him.. 50 is claiming to have dropped him to make himself seem bigger.. but game was never signed to him in the first place... its all PR, politricks, and bullshit
once again, why wasnt he allowed to show his own cd on the dvd
It's not his own cd. Most record labels own the rights to the records, and in The Game's case he was just a new artist, so he definitely wouldn't have a good enough contract where he owns anything.
The company that distributed the dvd didn't want to get sued so they blurred out the image.
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WCC logic:
Game sells 2.1 million = The smash hit that brought the Westcoast back.
Banks sells 1.6 million = Flop, G-G-G-UNOT!
:D
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I wrote a whole Junkyard about Game, but I do have some shit I am worried about him. I have no questions he can rap now, as since The Documentry came out, his done nothing but improve. But he has spent 660 bars dissing G-Unit in one form or another. That's more bars than most rap albums have. He has some great lines, and I think his proving that 50 Cent greatest mistake is dumping Game. BUT, whatelse does he have. His proving to be a great battle rapper, but so is Jadakiss, but Jada struggles to go platnum. I think his on his path to be the westcoast Jada, great battle rapper, but wouldn't take off like it was thought he would. He was 50's best G-Unit partner. Lloyd Banks flopped, Young Buck was second to Game, Yayo is wack, Olivia is not dropping, Spider is worst than Yayo, Mobb Deep is as wasted up as the Dogg Pound with Prodigy falling off harsh, and MOP needs major work to be commerical. 50 should have never dropped Game, but is Game draining himself trying to win this senseless battle with a crew that is obviously falling off? What you think?
banks went double plat how is that flop'n?????, and bucc did 1 mil and you don't considered that a flop if banks double was? game is improving and he works hard got to give him his credit for that,but great battle rapper? come on you know he gets more porps for how "long" his songs are, ay we are all titled to opinions tho, so bravo on the thread my equal yell