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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Just Another Sunny day in California on March 27, 2006, 05:02:00 PM
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today in my Music class for college we watched his preformances from Woodstock and the Monterey Pop Festival, which is funny since i happened to wear my Jimi Hendrix shirt. Anywho Jimi, IMO, is the greatest guitarist we have ever seen, the man was amazing if you don't know what i'm talking about check out some of his concerts or check out his music.
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I like Stevie Ray Vaughan better and I think that Clapton could be put on the same level. But Jimi is one of the greatest, no doubt about that.
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that's weird...i'm listenin to jimi as i checked out the thread. he's real OG man, i wish he coulda stayed alive caus he was a genius.
do u hav any videos of his performances? i'd appreciate
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Jimi was a good bass player too, this is a good article I recently read:
http://www.djnoble.demon.co.uk/ints/JimionBass.html
He played organ and drums on Electric Ladyland too but I don't know if it's confirmed what songs he plays them on.
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If people like Jimi I would recommend that they check out the people who influenced Jimi: Freddie King, Buddy Guy, Albert King, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf (Hubert Sumlin on guitar), John Lee Hooker.
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jimi is amazing, just watching his woodstock videos and every performance hes done
the way he could milk the sounds out of the guitar were fucking revolutionary.
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yeah man i never appreciated his music until recently the man was a genius no doubt. it's a shame he died but he left his mark on the world. My music professor saw Jimi preform at Woodstock and he said Jimi was nuts on the guitar. He said "Jimi could play with his teeth or behind his back better than most people could play throughout their entire life." And what's amazing is that he was lefty and while watching the Moneterry Pop Festival video in class i saw him covering his eyes and playing "wild thing" with one hand i was like fuuuuuuuuck.
H Cottie: i'm trying to look for some on ebay or on the net i'll let you know if i get some.
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I like Stevie Ray Vaughan better and I think that Clapton could be put on the same level. But Jimi is one of the greatest, no doubt about that.
yeah clapton is nice, and carlos santana is a god damn good player 2
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It's hard to say. In my opinion, yes, Jimi is the greatest guitarist of all time, but not because he could outplay everyone. He probably couldn't.
Eric Clapton is one of the most naturally talented guitarists ever, probably THE most naturally talented guitarist ever. He loves his guitar, and he's like a great athelete, only musically. He'd be like the Mozart of the guitar world. God Given, natural talent.
There's lots of other guys, Steve Vai, etc. Carlos Santana could probably play more virtuoso than Jimi, and Carlos is very soulful, the soul of latin music runs through his blood, very soulful guitarist.
Stevie Ray Vaughn could eat anybody alive on a guitar. The man was incredible. The stories about his playing are legendary, again he had nothing but soul, he lived breathed slept a guitarist. Probably the most talented guitarist to ever live.
Jimi, though, takes the 'greatest' card for me because of several things. First, he truly was a gifted guitarist, just on technical merit alone you could make a case he was one of the best, although like I said Clapton and Vaughn were probably technically better. Jimi also had Stevie Ray's love for his instrument, Jimi famously slept with his guitar and even kicked women out of bed to sleep with his strat.
The two things that set Jimi above everyone else, though, are that he was such an individual, had so much flair and PASSION that it bled into his music. Really nice guy, soft spoken, a flower child, etc. and was colorful, intelligent, interesting... basically a larger-than-life figure walking through the music industry. Somebody like Clapton on the other hand has little to no personality that bleeds into his music.
The other thing about Jimi is that he was extremely creative, from his passion and his heart. Stevie Ray Vaughn played with plenty of passion... and his guitar was a natural extention of his soul and what he heard in his head, he basically played. Eric Clapton is probably the most technically sound guitarist ever, if he hears a melody in his head, he can instantly play it in any key at a second, he knows every note on the guitar, and knows every key, every scale, and can play licks for hours without repeating himself. Jimi, though, played with so much passion that sometimes he was sloppy. He'd play out of tune, he'd play choppy and drop notes, he'd play notes out of key, he'd fuck up constantly... but his heart and his passion bled out of every note he played. So I think although Vaughn and Clapton would never fuck up a note, Jimi's sloppiness shows even more heart and soul, and that's why I would call him the greatest guitarist to ever live.
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To Me, My list goes like this
1. Eric Clapton
2. Jimi Hendrix
3. Tom Morello
4. Stevie Ray Vaughn
5. Carlos Santana
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jimi is one of my favs, the other jmmy is possibly my number 1
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He's probably number 1 in my book. Even though there are guitarists out there that are more technical and can do more virtuoso shit (Vai, Satriani, Malmsteen) he stood out. Especially coming out as a leading black figure in those times was an accomplishment. Dude was crazy, you see his live stuff, he perfectly synchronizes his wah effect with his playing, if you know what that is, its fucking crazy to do. Playing solos perfectly with your teeth? Yeah.
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1. Jimmy
2. Clapton
3. Slash
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i woudln't say that jimi is the BEST or most talented guitartist......in his time he DEFINATELY was, but i think once the mid 80's hit, there were artists that were just as good technically and ect. but i'd definately say that Jimi is the most well rounded guitarist ever....blues he had it down, rock he had it down, jazz he had it down, country he had it down, flamenca, steel string, hell he even taught us all how to use a wah pedal....which gave funk it's sound, he was definately a major player in the influence of metal from his use of feedback reverberation and distortion, also IMO he was the most purest artist, like trauma said he had a great creative mind, the dude thought in colors and feelings.
so in a box i'd say yes he's the greatest guitar figure, the most influencial guitar player and definately the most well rounded guitar player but not the absolute BEST.
i think when artists started moving away from blues and more to a boroque style we got our great guitar technitions
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Somebody like Clapton on the other hand has little to no personality that bleeds into his music.
I can see how one could easily come to that conclusion, but the Derek and The Dominoes album is one of the most beautiful albums as far as emotional guitar is concerned. If you've never heard it I would recommend it because it's Clapton's most personal and emotional album by far in my opinion.
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I don't think you'd ever hear someone protest to saying Jimi was the best and that marks it for me. If not one personwould say "No way" then it's good enough to make him the best.
As for techinical skills; watch this guy;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1wBzA-xUe8&search=Michael%20Angelo
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yep^....that's what i was talkin about in my post 8)
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If people like Jimi I would recommend that they check out the people who influenced Jimi: Freddie King, Buddy Guy, Albert King, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf (Hubert Sumlin on guitar), John Lee Hooker.
Muddy Waters is the shit..... 8)
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But to be honest I didn't hear much Jimi Hendrix....
Carlos Santana is good on guitar...
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Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Tom Morello, Eric Clapton probably my pics
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Hendrix woz dope! Santana is also 1 of the best! 8)
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Somebody like Clapton on the other hand has little to no personality that bleeds into his music.
I can see how one could easily come to that conclusion, but the Derek and The Dominoes album is one of the most beautiful albums as far as emotional guitar is concerned. If you've never heard it I would recommend it because it's Clapton's most personal and emotional album by far in my opinion.
I love Eric Clapton. I think he's great, I like a lot of his music. I've heard a lot of that album, and I know Eric loves and lives for the blues, and where his heart is. ... but. Compared to Jimi Hendrix? It's just not even similar, if you're talking about personality.
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Jimi is great but nobody is better than Carlos Santana.
My list
1.Carlos Santana
2.Jimi Hendrix
3.Eric Clapton
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See, i can't even entertain the notion that Carlos Santana is the greatest ever. He has 1 style. He's great at what he does and we all love him, but he's not the greatest guitarist ever.
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Loads of guitarists better than santana
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didnt jimi only miss notes because he was so fucked up ?
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What's the standard to which you can judge a person on who's the best? There's no way to know. Shredding as they call it, cannot be judged as being great. Because, alot of guitarist can shred. (Eddie van halen, Steve vai, and Malmsteen). Classical guitar is the hardest to play. I can't say he was the best. It's all in what you believe. I happened to think Guthrie Govan is one of the best guitarist to live. Jimi could play. But... he was also a showman and could do revolutionary things with sounds. That doesn't make you the best. So again, what's the standard?
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Hendrix is the standard.
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Hendrix is the standard.
Agreed. Hendrix set the standard that modern day guitar players play by.
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Hendrix is the standard.
Can't be. 1 reason is, Hendrix was never around to show the diversity of his playing. 2nd, by being the best, does that mean he's the fastest player? can he play all forms of guitar? I.E. Classical, Country, Jazz, and to be the best, he'd have to be the best in all three of those fields. That's impossible to judge. Playing a chord with your teeth doesn't make you the best. Also, in the form of rap... people say Eminem, rakim, or ras kass is the best rapper. You could no longer proove that. Because, who's to say there's not some person underground who could be better. Same with Jimi. In order to be the best you have to set some standard that "QUALIFIES" him the best. Not just because he's jimi hendrix. Music is the beginning of the standard. But, all else is cannot pe prooven. I'm not knocking Jimi. however, if you talk to any guitarist who teaches they will tell you, it can't be prooven.
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Hendrix is the standard.
Can't be. 1 reason is, Hendrix was never around to show the diversity of his playing. 2nd, by being the best, does that mean he's the fastest player? can he play all forms of guitar? I.E. Classical, Country, Jazz, and to be the best, he'd have to be the best in all three of those fields. That's impossible to judge. Playing a chord with your teeth doesn't make you the best. Also, in the form of rap... people say Eminem, rakim, or ras kass is the best rapper. You could no longer proove that. Because, who's to say there's not some person underground who could be better. Same with Jimi. In order to be the best you have to set some standard that "QUALIFIES" him the best. Not just because he's jimi hendrix. Music is the beginning of the standard. But, all else is cannot pe prooven. I'm not knocking Jimi. however, if you talk to any guitarist who teaches they will tell you, it can't be prooven.
I think it's pretty much a given that we are talking subjectively. Jimi is considered the best guitairt subjectively. Artistic skill cannot be judged objectively. It's like judging two painters. You can't objectively say that Picasso was better than Michaelamgelo. To an extent you can objectively determine who can create more life like images as it pertains to what each is drawing, just like you can compare guitar speed, but as far as over all talent it can't be done.
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Hendrix is the standard.
Can't be. 1 reason is, Hendrix was never around to show the diversity of his playing. 2nd, by being the best, does that mean he's the fastest player? can he play all forms of guitar? I.E. Classical, Country, Jazz, and to be the best, he'd have to be the best in all three of those fields. That's impossible to judge. Playing a chord with your teeth doesn't make you the best. Also, in the form of rap... people say Eminem, rakim, or ras kass is the best rapper. You could no longer proove that. Because, who's to say there's not some person underground who could be better. Same with Jimi. In order to be the best you have to set some standard that "QUALIFIES" him the best. Not just because he's jimi hendrix. Music is the beginning of the standard. But, all else is cannot pe prooven. I'm not knocking Jimi. however, if you talk to any guitarist who teaches they will tell you, it can't be prooven.
You asked, "what's the standard" and I'm just telling you, Jimi Hendrix made himself the standard by which all other guitarists are measured. You defeated yourself with your own objection.
Shallow's ultimately right, of course it's all subjective to who we are what we like, etc. 8 times out of 10, though, you're gonna get "Jimi Hendrix" when you ask someone who was the best guitarist. That says something.
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What's the standard to which you can judge a person on who's the best? There's no way to know. Shredding as they call it, cannot be judged as being great. Because, alot of guitarist can shred. (Eddie van halen, Steve vai, and Malmsteen). Classical guitar is the hardest to play. I can't say he was the best. It's all in what you believe. I happened to think Guthrie Govan is one of the best guitarist to live. Jimi could play. But... he was also a showman and could do revolutionary things with sounds. That doesn't make you the best. So again, what's the standard?
Jimi was light years ahead of his time. He did what most guitarists did in the 80s only doing it 15 years earlier. Give the man some fuckin credit and respect, you say say Jimi didn't show any diversity are you kidding me?? Jimi's roots stem from rock, jazz, blues, & country. Jimi began his career as a jazz & blues player playing behind Little Richard. He did everything from rock, jazz, blues, to even folk so don't argue that Jimi didn't have any diversity to him. Now i know you have your opinion but lets think of a better agruement for Jimi not being considered the GOAT. I believe Rolling Stone named him #1, i'm not saying just because they said he was, he automatically is but it does say something. Jimi passed away in 1970 lets try to imagine what he would have done in the 70s or 80s, considering Jimi was so damn talented before his passing.
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Yeah, who's seen that performance of Jimi Hendrix acoustic? He plays "Long Train Coming" or something like that, I only saw it once. Jimi played, and could play, everything. Even something like "Highway Child" is kind of country sounding. DEFINATELY a very diverse well rounded guitarist. He pretty much played equal measures rock blues jazz and folk, and then other stuff from there.
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Yeah, who's seen that performance of Jimi Hendrix acoustic? He plays "Long Train Coming" or something like that, I only saw it once. Jimi played, and could play, everything. Even something like "Highway Child" is kind of country sounding. DEFINATELY a very diverse well rounded guitarist. He pretty much played equal measures rock blues jazz and folk, and then other stuff from there.
true that
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I dont think there's no question that there never has been a guitarist better than Jimi. This guy changed the sound of rock music FOREVER and he couldnt even read or write music.
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that was actually true to and extent ^ he knew how to read a few notes but like SRV said once if he tried to think about the music (reading notes) it wouldn't come out as well, he played all from his heart.
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Jimi played fuckin sitars and shit, he totally redifined playing the guitar, like rakim changed hip hop from the RunDMC/LLCOOLJ style of rap.
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Jimi played fuckin sitars and shit, he totally redifined playing the guitar, like rakim changed hip hop from the RunDMC/LLCOOLJ style of rap.
Sitars were brought into the mainstream by George Harrison and Brian Jones, so I'd give them credit for bringing that onto the Western music scene.
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I don't know. You got Slash and Dimebag Darrell up there.
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Jimi played fuckin sitars and shit, he totally redifined playing the guitar, like rakim changed hip hop from the RunDMC/LLCOOLJ style of rap.
Sitars were brought into the mainstream by George Harrison and Brian Jones, so I'd give them credit for bringing that onto the Western music scene.
Yup. George Harrison is hella underrated. He also was the first to use a version of the Wah pedal, he called his the volume tone control pedal. A few changes, and they had the wah pedal.