West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Just Another Sunny day in California on April 10, 2006, 07:05:43 PM
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i always wondered why this was. is there any background info on this?
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"So who that East Coast groupie from the West
Transforming, lying and bitch kissing New York dick
Oh it's Alchemist
See real is real and fake is gay and traitors get their pass revoked" :laugh:
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i always wondered why this was. is there any background info on this?
Who cares, his beats are weak anyway.
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i dont like his production anyway, sampling for the lose
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because he gets paid....you want him to sit around Cali somewhere hoping Snoop Dogg picks up the phone and wants a beat?
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"So who that East Coast groupie from the West
Transforming, lying and bitch kissing New York dick
Oh it's Alchemist
See real is real and fake is gay and traitors get their pass revoked" :laugh:
It ain't Alchemist's fault that too many West Coast rappers refuse to move past the G-Funk era, and that he's WAY the fuck ahead of them in that respect. Besides, nobody can deny that Alchemist's beats and Mobb Deep go together really well.
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because he gets paid....you want him to sit around Cali somewhere hoping Snoop Dogg picks up the phone and wants a beat?
He's been producing for the East years before the West lost it's shine.
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"So who that East Coast groupie from the West
Transforming, lying and bitch kissing New York dick
Oh it's Alchemist
See real is real and fake is gay and traitors get their pass revoked" :laugh:
those lyrics doesnt rhyme at all :-\
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i dont like his production anyway, sampling for the lose
LMAO @ Sampling for the lose. So you're saying: Dre, Quik, Muggs, DJ Khalil, RZA, etc. are weak? Cuz they all sample heavy.
Alchemist got his start with Cypress Hill, but moved to NY and started working out there with cats like Mobb Deep. The love he got was crazy, so he just stayed out there. He always worked with cats like Dilated, Cypress and the such, but it wasn't until recently the WEST opened their arms to him. His beats were too Hip Hop for most of these "gangstas" in the West.
LOL @ Ras for dissing ANYONE for being on the East. Rassy used to live in New York himself. He works heavy with a lot of East Coast cats. Hell, he probably gets more love out there than he does here.
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i always wondered why this was. is there any background info on this?
Who cares, his beats are weak anyway.
weak?? listen to some of his productions on the past mobb deep albums or to his 1st infantry album, i think dude is pretty talented. Jadakiss' "we gonna make it" nd Lloyd Banks "bangers" are fuckin sick.
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Ras Killed The Alchemist with that "Kiss u" track
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Ras Killed The Alchemist with that "Kiss u" track
The hell he did, muh'fucka. I like Ras' music, but dude has a big mouth sometimes and needs to learn to shut the fuck up, and this is one of those times. Like SGV and I pointed out, none of the West Coast gangstas would show him love, so he got in where he fit in. Is Ras gonna call Cube a traitor for working with the Bomb Squad so much in his early career, too?
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Ras Killed The Alchemist with that "Kiss u" track
The hell he did, muh'fucka. I like Ras' music, but dude has a big mouth sometimes and needs to learn to shut the fuck up, and this is one of those times. Like SGV and I pointed out, none of the West Coast gangstas would show him love, so he got in where he fit in. Is Ras gonna call Cube a traitor for working with the Bomb Squad so much in his early career, too?
Thats weak man no need for me to respond, Ras killed him
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C'Mon... Ras went at ALC knowingly he wouldn't respond. I mean, yea, he raps, but his focus is too produce. So, by default he "destroyed" him. But, at the end of the day, Ras is cool with Alchemist now.
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i dont understand why there is hate going towards him for working with east coast artists. like sgv said, hes done tracks with cypress, dilated, soul assassins, defari, snoop and others as well.. and why confine yourself to one region? thats just limiting your potential and talent. why just cater to one set of audience?
Ras just got pissed at him cos of the beat situation, which seemed to be a clear misunderstanding. You think someone like alchemist would have to do something like that just to make a little extra money. This guy has produced for damn near everyone. I really doubt Alchemist was placing a few thousand dollars in front of his business credibility.
Ras only said that verse out of spite as well. Shit, Ras never felt that way originally. Obviously, Ras felt that Alchemist beats were ill, he wanted a few on his album.. but just taking it too personal cos it was an east coast artist that eventually took it. What if another west coast artist had taken it instead of jadakiss. There goes Ras' whole statement... he'd be pissed at anyone who had the beat, regardless what coast it was on.
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i always wondered why this was. is there any background info on this?
Who cares, his beats are weak anyway.
weak?? listen to some of his productions on the past mobb deep albums or to his 1st infantry album, i think dude is pretty talented. Jadakiss' "we gonna make it" nd Lloyd Banks "bangers" are fuckin sick.
His style is monotonous and boring, not my cup of tea.
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i dont understand why there is hate going towards him for working with east coast artists. like sgv said, hes done tracks with cypress, dilated, soul assassins, defari, snoop and others as well.. and why confine yourself to one region? thats just limiting your potential and talent. why just cater to one set of audience?
Ras just got pissed at him cos of the beat situation, which seemed to be a clear misunderstanding. You think someone like alchemist would have to do something like that just to make a little extra money. This guy has produced for damn near everyone. I really doubt Alchemist was placing a few thousand dollars in front of his business credibility.
Ras only said that verse out of spite as well. Shit, Ras never felt that way originally. Obviously, Ras felt that Alchemist beats were ill, he wanted a few on his album.. but just taking it too personal cos it was an east coast artist that eventually took it. What if another west coast artist had taken it instead of jadakiss. There goes Ras' whole statement... he'd be pissed at anyone who had the beat, regardless what coast it was on.
nicely put
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What's boring or monotonous about beats like "We Gon Make It" "Latin Thugs" "Hold U Down" etc.????
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To answer the thread title:
[Alchemist]
I'm Westcoast, I'ma rep it forever
But I had to move to the East to get all of my respect and my cheddar
To tell the truth, the only thing I really left was the weather
All of my friends, the same, we always kept it together
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My man Bugs introduced me to you, Knitty and G.O.D., brought me to the studio to play music for Hav and P (Twin: You can't forget about my duns Noyd and Gotti)
I was a nobody, they showed me love, told me they got me
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Oh, and: Alchemist >>> Any producer on the Westcoast, save maybe 2 or 3 producers.
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how can u hate on Alchemist??!
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"So who that East Coast groupie from the West
Transforming, lying and bitch kissing New York dick
Oh it's Alchemist
See real is real and fake is gay and traitors get their pass revoked" :laugh:
It ain't Alchemist's fault that too many West Coast rappers refuse to move past the G-Funk era, and that he's WAY the fuck ahead of them in that respect. Besides, nobody can deny that Alchemist's beats and Mobb Deep go together really well.
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Kiss you was a great track. And rass was pissed that when he got locked up he got his beat for HOME SWEET HOME sold by the Alchmeist to the LOX for WE GONE MAKE IT. You cant blame Rass For dissin Alchemist that was a hot beat and The LOX made a hit out of it. Kiss and Styles that is.
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cause he was waiting for me to get my 500th post
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What makes iz beat weak?
How many average west coast producers that u know that got name out there like him.
The hommie iz out there bcoz there only bitches niggaz on the West who don't wanna push
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^^In English?
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^^In English?
+1
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rass was pissed that when he got locked up he got his beat for HOME SWEET HOME sold by the Alchmeist to the LOX for WE GONE MAKE IT. You cant blame Rass For dissin Alchemist that was a hot beat and The LOX made a hit out of it. Kiss and Styles that is.
im a fan of both... but imho... Ras is a grown ass man, thats his fault he got locked up and got his beat sold, Alchemist got food to eat and bills to pay jus like he does..its a reason alchemist is a producer and Ras is a rapper they can always make another beat.. what ras is doin is some hoe shit forreal he could easily get another beat thats betta than that..
I know for damn show if I was in Alchemist shoes, and the exact same shit happened...I will do the samething..sell the beat without a second thought all money is good money, I can always give him another beat, what I look like puttin a beat on layaway
He was workin dre once be4 right, I bet money somebody on aftermath has used a Beat dre did for him that Ras wanted and he aint said shit...
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hes beats fits eastcoastrappers perfectly..its as simple as that.