West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: MIAMI4LIFE on January 07, 2007, 06:54:45 PM
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I was just listening to this album last night and to me it's Snoop's 2nd best, just cause it was released after Doggystyle it was considered a dissapointment but it's definitely a solid 4/5, not a classic or anything but Snoop still had that dope flow, plus it had Tray Dee who killed Downtown Assassins and Wake Up, Bad Azz, Techniec, Daz, Kurupt, Soopafly all ripped it, Daz brought 3 heaters, DJ Pooh had some dope beats, I can listen to this whole album and not skip a track the only other Snoop album I can say that for is Doggystyle
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all tracks are good except for freestyle conversation, and too many skits. should have replaced those with eastside party and head doctor
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Yeah it is hard to follow up a album like Doggystyle and there was alot of hype surrounding his 2nd album. I still bump Tha Doggfather. I would say it is probably his second best with BCT and TLM close behind.
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dope album i dont think it is underrated at all.
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Its a dope album, but when compared to Doggystyle it just seemed lame. Thats why so many people hated on it, Doogystle was so great, people were expecting something at that level and they didnt get it
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this is a masterpiece..
dj pooh came with that new sound in '96
very underrated by a lot of people
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I like this record
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ah yea I've always thought it was underrated
probably my favorite or 2nd favorite Snoop album
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Doggfather was so wack.
Snoops on his second lp just sounded like a lost puppy without Dre.
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been sayin this for years
3 skippables
the rest is bangers
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I think Doggfather doesn't get the recognition it deserves, but it's third on my list behind Tha Last Meal.
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Kurupt damn near made this album his own. He murdered every appearance on here.
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I think after Dre left and 2pac showed up the motto at Death Row recording studios was quantity not quality. It seems like Suge would rather a recording artist start from scratch on the commission of an album instead of considering music already recorded. In the case of the Doggfather for example they're sooo many good songs that snoop didn’t use its almost infuriating. All the unreleased stuff with 2pac, everything later released on "At his best" and "DMW" not to mention the still officially unreleased material I think that album could have easily been 10x better without any Dre production at all.
Doggfather seems a lot better now because of the decline of hip hop and rap music quality but honestly, at the time when Doggfather came out it was a joke. I think Snoop expected it would be too that’s why he put that skit in the album about "dre not shaking the beats out" (or whatever he said - don’t have album on hand). I don't remember expecting Doggystyle pt.2 but hearing "Snoops upside ya head" as the lead single and watching that video sealed the deal in my mind that the album wouldn’t even be a priority buying. It really took me about a year+ before I even started liking it after it came out.
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Masterpiece !!!!!
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It's hard to judge....it really just depends on what you compare it to, and if you compare it to anything at all. It was a solid album for any rapper at the time, and there aren't many albums from that era that are still as listenable as this album...but it was so far from being Doggystyle that it was hard for many people to even call it average, let alone good.
Looking back at Snoop's catalogue, I can see people placing this album anywhere between his 2nd best and 6th best album. It has some dope azz songs, but many songs were just decent filler tracks, and some were worst than that...and people were expecting the second coming of Doggystyle, so it makes sense that they were dissapointed. This album reminds me of when a NBA/NFL superstar has a kid who plays....they may be better than the rest of the kids or people his age, but the fact that they aren't as amazing as their father makes people say they suck and have no skill.
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I agree. Snoops best since Doggystyle.
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It's a dope album, but not his 2nd best though...
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I guess for me I could accept Doggfather for what it is. I already knew before buying it that Dre was not on the album so I just tried to be unbaised as I could. There were some weak tracks but all in all I thought it was a dope album. It showcased a Daz Dillinger that was in a zone at that time. He made classics on AEOM and continued with this album and the few other projects he worked on before he left. Alot of people do not give DJ Pooh his just due on this record. That was shortly after he was not fuckin with Cube anymore so it was cool Snoop let him bless the album. And he put his DPGC crew all over this album. Doggfather was the blueprint of what Tha Streetz ended up being IMO.
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"She was just a groupie, sheeeeee was just a groupie"
;D
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ah yea I've always thought it was underrated
probably my favorite or 2nd favorite Snoop album
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I've had this album for about 10 years but I've never really liked it, I dont think it comes close to No Limit Top Dogg, or Tha Last Meal, I think Snoop definately was lost without Dr Dre, theres some good songs but I think its lacking.
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there are no wack songs on this album
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there are no wack songs on this album
that's what i'm saying even the filler type joints on the album are listenable, that can't be said for any other Snoop album xcept Doggystyle
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Finaly some recognition on this forum :)
Sixxx Minutes, Up Jumps Da Boogie, 2001, Tha Dogfather are all classic tracks imo!!!!!
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didnt really feel this album...i prefer top dogg over this...
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Finaly some recognition on this forum :)
Sixxx Minutes, Up Jumps Da Boogie, 2001, Tha Dogfather are all classic tracks imo!!!!!
groupie, vapours, downtown assasins 8)
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im fly like a duv , i come from up above.
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I agree. Snoops best since Doggystyle.
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this is a masterpiece..
dj pooh came with that new sound in '96
very underrated by a lot of people
G-funk wasn't new, and that was the problem a lot of people had with this album. Doggfather tried to recapture that g-funk sound but Dre and Snoop perfected it so well on Doggystle the stuff on Doggfather just sounded like second rate imitations. All in all it was still a solid album, just not as good as people were expecting.
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this is a masterpiece..
dj pooh came with that new sound in '96
very underrated by a lot of people
G-funk wasn't new, and that was the problem a lot of people had with this album. Doggfather tried to recapture that g-funk sound but Dre and Snoop perfected it so well on Doggystle the stuff on Doggfather just sounded like second rate imitations. All in all it was still a solid album, just not as good as people were expecting.
I thought Pooh's sound was more P-funk on that record than the G-Funk that Dre was doing on Chronic and Doggystyle, plus I like the fact that Snoop had a gang of producers on the record Daz, Sam Sneed, LT Hutton giving them some shine...
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this is a masterpiece..
dj pooh came with that new sound in '96
very underrated by a lot of people
G-funk wasn't new, and that was the problem a lot of people had with this album. Doggfather tried to recapture that g-funk sound but Dre and Snoop perfected it so well on Doggystle the stuff on Doggfather just sounded like second rate imitations. All in all it was still a solid album, just not as good as people were expecting.
I thought Pooh's sound was more P-funk on that record than the G-Funk that Dre was doing on Chronic and Doggystyle, plus I like the fact that Snoop had a gang of producers on the record Daz, Sam Sneed, LT Hutton giving them some shine...
daz gave sum classic beats on ther and sam sneeds production on blueberry is amazing