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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: herpes on January 11, 2007, 03:31:44 PM
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It turns out he failed a drug test for amphetamines, not that really bothers me conisdering they have been in baseball for about 40 years. But the fact he tried to pin the failed drug test on a team mate. What a piece of fuckin shit. Can anyone support this piece of shit.
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I was just about to post this. Muthafuckin' snitch. Dudes a fuckin' asshole.
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I posted this by accident in the Entertainment section
check it out, the article from espn.com
I feel bad for any Barry fans but nah, what a bunch of fuckin morons
Barry Bonds is the scum of the earth, greatest cheater ever and a true snitch and true asshole and liar
lol @ The Giants!
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this upcoming season, Giants > Dodgers
Im upset that Bonds ratted out Sweeney, however Bonds = top 5 player ever steroids or not
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Why don't people get on Merriman from the Chargers for taking steriods? He was still voted into the Pro bowl and all this shit. I think it's BS how everybody just goes at Barry.
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Why don't people get on Merriman from the Chargers for taking steriods? He was still voted into the Pro bowl and all this shit. I think it's BS how everybody just goes at Barry.
Couldnt agree more
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Why don't people get on Merriman from the Chargers for taking steriods? He was still voted into the Pro bowl and all this shit. I think it's BS how everybody just goes at Barry.
B/C Barry is about to break one of the most cherished records in all of sports by cheating his way there. And the fact he has been a classless scumbag his entire life dont help him any. Also you are hearing more and more about what a joke the NFL drug testing program is and more people are calling for tougher testing and harsher penalties now.
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Why don't people get on Merriman from the Chargers for taking steriods? He was still voted into the Pro bowl and all this shit. I think it's BS how everybody just goes at Barry.
B/C Barry is about to break one of the most cherished records in all of sports by cheating his way there. And the fact he has been a classless scumbag his entire life dont help him any. Also you are hearing more and more about what a joke the NFL drug testing program is and more people are calling for tougher testing and harsher penalties now.
But Merriman is said to be on the best linebackers in the NFL and you don't see the media jumping on his dick like they do on Barry's. I'm not defending Barry I'm just stating how it's bullshit.
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Why don't people get on Merriman from the Chargers for taking steriods? He was still voted into the Pro bowl and all this shit. I think it's BS how everybody just goes at Barry.
B/C Barry is about to break one of the most cherished records in all of sports by cheating his way there. And the fact he has been a classless scumbag his entire life dont help him any. Also you are hearing more and more about what a joke the NFL drug testing program is and more people are calling for tougher testing and harsher penalties now.
But Merriman is said to be on the best linebackers in the NFL and you don't see the media jumping on his dick like they do on Barry's. I'm not defending Barry I'm just stating how it's bullshit.
There is no possible way in hell you can compare breaking one of the most cherished records in all of sports to being called one of the best LB's in football. And another reason why you dont hear as much bull shit thrown towards Merrimans way is b/c you would have to be stupid to believe the NFL is steroid free. Half that league is juiced up beyond belief but no one says anything about it b/c its just one of those things that is accepted.
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Why don't people get on Merriman from the Chargers for taking steriods? He was still voted into the Pro bowl and all this shit. I think it's BS how everybody just goes at Barry.
B/C Barry is about to break one of the most cherished records in all of sports by cheating his way there. And the fact he has been a classless scumbag his entire life dont help him any. Also you are hearing more and more about what a joke the NFL drug testing program is and more people are calling for tougher testing and harsher penalties now.
But Merriman is said to be on the best linebackers in the NFL and you don't see the media jumping on his dick like they do on Barry's. I'm not defending Barry I'm just stating how it's bullshit.
There is no possible way in hell you can compare breaking one of the most cherished records in all of sports to being called one of the best LB's in football. And another reason why you dont hear as much bull shit thrown towards Merrimans way is b/c you would have to be stupid to believe the NFL is steroid free. Half that league is juiced up beyond belief but no one says anything about it b/c its just one of those things that is accepted.
I wasn't comparing the title of him being a good LB and Barry breaking a record. I'm just stating that you have to be fair to all the athletes in professional sports if you're gonna accuse only one. You know what I'm saying?
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this upcoming season, Giants > Dodgers
Im upset that Bonds ratted out Sweeney, however Bonds = top 5 player ever steroids or not
LOL...I am willing to bet accounts that the Dodgers will be better than the Giants.
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Why don't people get on Merriman from the Chargers for taking steriods? He was still voted into the Pro bowl and all this shit. I think it's BS how everybody just goes at Barry.
B/C Barry is about to break one of the most cherished records in all of sports by cheating his way there. And the fact he has been a classless scumbag his entire life dont help him any. Also you are hearing more and more about what a joke the NFL drug testing program is and more people are calling for tougher testing and harsher penalties now.
But Merriman is said to be on the best linebackers in the NFL and you don't see the media jumping on his dick like they do on Barry's. I'm not defending Barry I'm just stating how it's bullshit.
There is no possible way in hell you can compare breaking one of the most cherished records in all of sports to being called one of the best LB's in football. And another reason why you dont hear as much bull shit thrown towards Merrimans way is b/c you would have to be stupid to believe the NFL is steroid free. Half that league is juiced up beyond belief but no one says anything about it b/c its just one of those things that is accepted.
I wasn't comparing the title of him being a good LB and Barry breaking a record. I'm just stating that you have to be fair to all the athletes in professional sports if you're gonna accuse only one. You know what I'm saying?
No, barry is breaking one of the most cherished records in all of sports, of course the scruntiny from fans and media is going to be 100x harsher then any other athlete.
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put that account up RIK, you're the right representative :pimp:
and Sparegeez, the dude on the Chargers has nothing to do with this
this thread is about Barry Bonds and his prick acts, not the NFL
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Why don't people get on Merriman from the Chargers for taking steriods? He was still voted into the Pro bowl and all this shit. I think it's BS how everybody just goes at Barry.
B/C Barry is about to break one of the most cherished records in all of sports by cheating his way there. And the fact he has been a classless scumbag his entire life dont help him any. Also you are hearing more and more about what a joke the NFL drug testing program is and more people are calling for tougher testing and harsher penalties now.
But Merriman is said to be on the best linebackers in the NFL and you don't see the media jumping on his dick like they do on Barry's. I'm not defending Barry I'm just stating how it's bullshit.
There is no possible way in hell you can compare breaking one of the most cherished records in all of sports to being called one of the best LB's in football. And another reason why you dont hear as much bull shit thrown towards Merrimans way is b/c you would have to be stupid to believe the NFL is steroid free. Half that league is juiced up beyond belief but no one says anything about it b/c its just one of those things that is accepted.
I wasn't comparing the title of him being a good LB and Barry breaking a record. I'm just stating that you have to be fair to all the athletes in professional sports if you're gonna accuse only one. You know what I'm saying?
No, barry is breaking one of the most cherished records in all of sports, of course the scruntiny from fans and media is going to be 100x harsher then any other athlete.
Why if a lot of other athletes have taken steroids and they have still not done anything to what Barry has done. And there is still not enough evidence to support he took steroids. And Merriman could win a shit load of Defensive player of the year and not one media channel or newspaper will criticize how he took steroids. I just find it as not fair.
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put that account up RIK, you're the right representative :pimp:
Props...yeah man I'm down, it's all up to Spice or any Gay-men fan out there.
You're still the homie Spice I just hate the Gay-men and that fag ass snitch Bonds.
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I can't stand Bonds and the fact that he snitched is just another reason not to like him, but think there is a bit of double standard cuz when white dude Mcguire was doing andro it was ok cause he was saving the game or whatevr, Bonds to me is a hall of famer even before the steroids, Mcgwire does not belong in the hall of fame, they should just not count the steroid era wipe those records off the books, it was a joke dudes hitting 65 and 70 hrs every year, that goes for Sosa too
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I can't stand Bonds and the fact that he snitched is just another reason not to like him, but think there is a bit of double standard cuz when white dude Mcguire was doing andro it was ok cause he was saving the game or whatevr, Bonds to me is a hall of famer even before the steroids, Mcgwire does not belong in the hall of fame, they should just not count the steroid era wipe those records off the books, it was a joke dudes hitting 65 and 70 hrs every year, that goes for Sosa too
Mark McGwire has HOF numbers and he didn't get voted in.
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^ and he shouldn't, he's a cheater
if McGwire really didn't do it, he'd obviously make some noise about it, not go into hiding
think about it, if you worked your whole life at baseball and put up numbers like that and then people accused you of cheating, but you didn't
you would not let that slide and dissappear and let everyone think you're hiding if you really didn't cheat
the way he's acting and the way he acted in that courtroom, that's not somebody who is telling the truth
I'm sure he'd be pissed and more animated, no doubt the guy is a fraud
to think that that 1998 season was a whole lie makes me not even care about sports really anymore all that much, shit is stupid
Sammy Sosa too, another piece of shit cheater
there's probbaly a shit load of guys out there too, probably people I root for, which disgusts me even more
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It was a juiced era, and hitters weren't the only ones doing it. He still should be there
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It was a juiced era, and hitters weren't the only ones doing it. He still should be there
yea, I mean I do get where you're coming from.... the whole thing is a mess and pretty sad tho regardless
I don't wanna be one of those fags that turns their shoulder for somethin, but it's hard not to be turned off by all this crap
I really don't care all that much about sports anymore, whether it be MLB NBA or NFL
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I can't stand Bonds and the fact that he snitched is just another reason not to like him, but think there is a bit of double standard cuz when white dude Mcguire was doing andro it was ok cause he was saving the game or whatevr, Bonds to me is a hall of famer even before the steroids, Mcgwire does not belong in the hall of fame, they should just not count the steroid era wipe those records off the books, it was a joke dudes hitting 65 and 70 hrs every year, that goes for Sosa too
Actually at the time andro wasnt a banned substance then and he actually did catch a lot of flack from the media for that. And before anyone wants to debate how steroids werent banned back then, they actually were. Thing was MLB didnt test for them but if some how you were caught doing them you got a suspension like Manny Alexander did.
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The guys cheated but for all we know half of baseball has
Fuck the Dodgers, Fuck The Mets and Everybody else that isnt a Giant.. 8)
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I can't stand Bonds and the fact that he snitched is just another reason not to like him, but think there is a bit of double standard cuz when white dude Mcguire was doing andro it was ok cause he was saving the game or whatevr, Bonds to me is a hall of famer even before the steroids, Mcgwire does not belong in the hall of fame, they should just not count the steroid era wipe those records off the books, it was a joke dudes hitting 65 and 70 hrs every year, that goes for Sosa too
Actually at the time andro wasnt a banned substance then and he actually did catch a lot of flack from the media for that. And before anyone wants to debate how steroids werent banned back then, they actually were. Thing was MLB didnt test for them but if some how you were caught doing them you got a suspension like Manny Alexander did.
either was HGH 8)
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what a douche bag i hope he lands 1 hr away from the record and has to go out with a career ending injury to both arm sockets
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what a douche bag i hope he lands 1 hr away from the record and has to go out with a career ending injury to both arm sockets
wont happen. hes gonna break the record and MLB is gonna have to deal with it!!! :nahnah2:
And LOL@ Dodgers fans, like Adrian Beltre's Steroid ass didnt bring yall a NL WEST title in 04... ::)
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Why don't people get on Merriman from the Chargers for taking steriods? He was still voted into the Pro bowl and all this shit. I think it's BS how everybody just goes at Barry.
B/C Barry is about to break one of the most cherished records in all of sports by cheating his way there. And the fact he has been a classless scumbag his entire life dont help him any. Also you are hearing more and more about what a joke the NFL drug testing program is and more people are calling for tougher testing and harsher penalties now.
But Merriman is said to be on the best linebackers in the NFL and you don't see the media jumping on his dick like they do on Barry's. I'm not defending Barry I'm just stating how it's bullshit.
There is no possible way in hell you can compare breaking one of the most cherished records in all of sports to being called one of the best LB's in football. And another reason why you dont hear as much bull shit thrown towards Merrimans way is b/c you would have to be stupid to believe the NFL is steroid free. Half that league is juiced up beyond belief but no one says anything about it b/c its just one of those things that is accepted.
I wasn't comparing the title of him being a good LB and Barry breaking a record. I'm just stating that you have to be fair to all the athletes in professional sports if you're gonna accuse only one. You know what I'm saying?
be fair to all athletes? lol...dude, fact is...Barry Bonds is an asshole...when Merriman took those steriods..everyone was talkin about it for a good week.....but he isn't an asshole...he isn't breaking any records...he just won the defensive award...and i believe they will take away that title too
Barry Bonds is an asshole...and he's lied...and hes cheated. thats the fact...he just keeps fuckin up so the media just keeps eating him up
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this is one of the reasons Baseball has fallen off, all these dudes cheating and breaking records that don't mean anything cause you know Bonds and them is juiced, I used to think 61 hrs was a big deal, then you got dudes like Ryan Howard almost hitting 60, im not saying Howard is juicing but look at the size of some of these guys they look like they should be playing in the NFL, props to Howard tho he's one of the few baseball players I like, hope he ain't juicing
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what a douche bag i hope he lands 1 hr away from the record and has to go out with a career ending injury to both arm sockets
wont happen. hes gonna break the record and MLB is gonna have to deal with it!!! :nahnah2:
And LOL@ Dodgers fans, like Adrian Beltre's Steroid ass didnt bring yall a NL WEST title in 04... ::)
Beltre on roids? Where the hell are you getting this from?
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what a douche bag i hope he lands 1 hr away from the record and has to go out with a career ending injury to both arm sockets
wont happen. hes gonna break the record and MLB is gonna have to deal with it!!! :nahnah2:
And LOL@ Dodgers fans, like Adrian Beltre's Steroid ass didnt bring yall a NL WEST title in 04... ::)
Beltre on roids? Where the hell are you getting this from?
did u look at homie's arms?
Dont you find it odd that he hits over 50 hr's one year (that summer the steroid talk gets huge) And the next year he tanks...Is that just a conisdence, from a guy that looks like a fuckin beast no homo? I dont think so..He was juicin dogg, it was obvious...
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what a douche bag i hope he lands 1 hr away from the record and has to go out with a career ending injury to both arm sockets
wont happen. hes gonna break the record and MLB is gonna have to deal with it!!! :nahnah2:
And LOL@ Dodgers fans, like Adrian Beltre's Steroid ass didnt bring yall a NL WEST title in 04... ::)
Beltre on roids? Where the hell are you getting this from?
did u look at homie's arms?
Dont you find it odd that he hits over 50 hr's one year (that summer the steroid talk gets huge) And the next year he tanks...Is that just a conisdence, from a guy that looks like a fuckin beast no homo? I dont think so..He was juicin dogg, it was obvious...
Nah homie, you're wrong. Dude was not on the barry juice. It was his contract year everyone does great on their contract year and fuck up once they get big money. Dude was always a second half player. See what scumbags like Barry and Mark did, now no one can half a good year cus they're goin to be suspected of juicing.
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what a douche bag i hope he lands 1 hr away from the record and has to go out with a career ending injury to both arm sockets
wont happen. hes gonna break the record and MLB is gonna have to deal with it!!! :nahnah2:
And LOL@ Dodgers fans, like Adrian Beltre's Steroid ass didnt bring yall a NL WEST title in 04... ::)
Beltre on roids? Where the hell are you getting this from?
did u look at homie's arms?
Dont you find it odd that he hits over 50 hr's one year (that summer the steroid talk gets huge) And the next year he tanks...Is that just a conisdence, from a guy that looks like a fuckin beast no homo? I dont think so..He was juicin dogg, it was obvious...
Nah homie, you're wrong. Dude was not on the barry juice. It was his contract year everyone does great on their contract year and fuck up once they get big money. Dude was always a second half player. See what scumbags like Barry and Mark did, now no one can half a good year cus they're goin to be suspected of juicing.
How do u know he didnt? dudes a beast? Can u prove he didnt?
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what a douche bag i hope he lands 1 hr away from the record and has to go out with a career ending injury to both arm sockets
wont happen. hes gonna break the record and MLB is gonna have to deal with it!!! :nahnah2:
And LOL@ Dodgers fans, like Adrian Beltre's Steroid ass didnt bring yall a NL WEST title in 04... ::)
Beltre on roids? Where the hell are you getting this from?
did u look at homie's arms?
Dont you find it odd that he hits over 50 hr's one year (that summer the steroid talk gets huge) And the next year he tanks...Is that just a conisdence, from a guy that looks like a fuckin beast no homo? I dont think so..He was juicin dogg, it was obvious...
Nah homie, you're wrong. Dude was not on the barry juice. It was his contract year everyone does great on their contract year and fuck up once they get big money. Dude was always a second half player. See what scumbags like Barry and Mark did, now no one can half a good year cus they're goin to be suspected of juicing.
How do u know he didnt? dudes a beast? Can u prove he didnt?
Can you prove he did?
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Dudes have been juicing for longer then we think, look at Brady Anderson...Perfect example. Just cuz Beltres a Dodger i know you want to believe he didnt juice, but look at the guy..How can i think any different ???
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what a douche bag i hope he lands 1 hr away from the record and has to go out with a career ending injury to both arm sockets
wont happen. hes gonna break the record and MLB is gonna have to deal with it!!! :nahnah2:
And LOL@ Dodgers fans, like Adrian Beltre's Steroid ass didnt bring yall a NL WEST title in 04... ::)
Beltre on roids? Where the hell are you getting this from?
did u look at homie's arms?
Dont you find it odd that he hits over 50 hr's one year (that summer the steroid talk gets huge) And the next year he tanks...Is that just a conisdence, from a guy that looks like a fuckin beast no homo? I dont think so..He was juicin dogg, it was obvious...
Nah homie, you're wrong. Dude was not on the barry juice. It was his contract year everyone does great on their contract year and fuck up once they get big money. Dude was always a second half player. See what scumbags like Barry and Mark did, now no one can half a good year cus they're goin to be suspected of juicing.
How do u know he didnt? dudes a beast? Can u prove he didnt?
Can you prove he did?
no but we cant prove Bonds did either, and i still think he did, dont you?
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LOL at thinking Beltre didnt juice :-X
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^ he probably did... if so fuck him, he's a cheater....
this is no double standard shit dude, if my favorite player did roids or somebody on the team I like, I'd hate him too and say the same shit I'm saying about Bonds
to think these guys can do that shit and look in the mirror, really tells you what low down human beings these assholes are
hes gonna break the record and MLB is gonna have to deal with it!!! :nahnah2:
dude that doesn't look good, you sound like a 3rd grader or something
"he cheated but because I like him it doesnt matter and hes gonna win anyway!"
I think Giants fans are just having a rough time coping with this, it must be tough
its like the boy who looks up to the almighty no wrong doing priest, then the priest gets busted for child rape
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^^The whole sport is tainted, you cant just focus on Bonds that is unfair.
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^ he probably did... if so fuck him, he's a cheater....
this is no double standard shit dude, if my favorite player did roids or somebody on the team I like, I'd hate him too and say the same shit I'm saying about Bonds
to think these guys can do that shit and look in the mirror, really tells you what low down human beings these assholes are
hes gonna break the record and MLB is gonna have to deal with it!!! :nahnah2:
dude that doesn't look good, you sound like a 3rd grader or something
"he cheated but because I like him it doesnt matter and hes gonna win anyway!"
I think Giants fans are just having a rough time coping with this, it must be tough
its like the boy who looks up to the almighty no wrong doing priest, then the priest gets busted for child rape
calm down, for alll we know roids have been in baseball for years, how do we even know what records really are tainted? Thats all im saying..
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i've always said....barry bonds is a cheater
if Rose is banned then Barry should be as well.
Pete Rose>Barry Bonds
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i've always said....barry bonds is a cheater
if Rose is banned then Barry should be as well.
Pete Rose>Barry Bonds
Nope
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i've always said....barry bonds is a cheater
if Rose is banned then Barry should be as well.
Pete Rose>Barry Bonds
Nope
greatest hitter in the game>greatest HR hitter
that's what i meant, Bonds defensive plays were impressive though.
but honestly if Bonds gets into the Hall, that's bullshit on the behalf of MLB
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i've always said....barry bonds is a cheater
if Rose is banned then Barry should be as well.
Pete Rose>Barry Bonds
Nope
greatest hitter in the game>greatest HR hitter
that's what i meant, Bonds defensive plays were impressive though.
but honestly if Bonds gets into the Hall, that's bullshit on the behalf of MLB
Barry Bonds is a much better hitter than Pete Rose
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i've always said....barry bonds is a cheater
if Rose is banned then Barry should be as well.
Pete Rose>Barry Bonds
Nope
greatest hitter in the game>greatest HR hitter
that's what i meant, Bonds defensive plays were impressive though.
but honestly if Bonds gets into the Hall, that's bullshit on the behalf of MLB
Barry Bonds is a much better hitter than Pete Rose
huh? do you actually believe that?
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Yeah he's much better, the numbers speak for themselves.
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for alll we know roids have been in baseball for years, how do we even know what records really are tainted? Thats all im saying..
aight aight, and I do agree with you on that.... I guess I'm just kinda wondering why anyone would still root for him that's all
cuz like I said before, to me no matter who did it they're a bitch, even my favorite player.... so pretty much MLB = wack
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Yeah he's much better, the numbers speak for themselves.
yeah at hitting homers but hits themselves there is no question.
pete rose 23 seasons 14053 ABs 4256 Hs .303 avg during those 23 years is pretty fuckin impressive
Bonds 20 seasons 9507 ABs 2841 Hs .299 avg. Though Rose had 4500 more at bats, Bonds would need another 1500 hits to surpass Rose which means Bonds would have to hit a lil more than .300 don't let those Homeruns confuse into believing Bonds is a better hitter than Rose.
may i add, Rose never used Roids or any other drugs. And don't bring up Rose gambling on baseball because that in no way improved his performace.
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OBP and SLG > BA
We can just take a look at the statsbefore Bonds 1999 season and still point out how much better Bonds is, which is the season those sports reporters that wrote Game of Shadows said he started juicing
Career best before 1999 for Bonds
336/458/677 for a 1.135 OPS which was .399 OPS points above the league average in 1993. Throughout the entire 1990s, Bonds would at least reach a .923 OPS, and over 1.000 for 8 seasons.
Career best for Pete Rose
348/428/512 for a .940 OPS and was .211 OPS points above the league average in 1969. That was Rose's best, which was on par with Barry Bonds' worst years in the 1990s.
If you want to see Pete Rose was a better contact hitter through most of his years than Bonds, ok that's cool and even debatable but not a better hitter.
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i say better hitter as a contact hitter Rose>Bonds but like i said as for slugging/homers of course it's Bonds, though i think Henry Aaron is better.
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It isn't just SLG, OBP too.
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i say better hitter as a contact hitter Rose>Bonds but like i said as for slugging/homers of course it's Bonds, though i think Henry Aaron is better.
Of course Rose is a better contact hitter than Bonds. I'd still take Barry as the better overall player.
Also, Aaron still has a few thousand more at bats than Bonds so despite Steroid use Aaron still had way more chances though. Doesn't matter because Ruth is the best slugger in history and it's hard to deny that. 4000 more at bats for Aaron and only 40 more homeruns. When Asaron had reached the total number of at bats Ruth had Aaron wasn't even at 500 HRs. And don't give that Ruth didn't hit against black pitchers crap like many do because Aaron only hit against one or two great black pitchers and it was once in a blue moon. To this day the number of black pitchers is only like 3% of pitchers, and I think it peaked a 6% in the early 80s. Now I'm not saying there may not have been a slugger in the negroe leagues that could beat Ruth. Who knows maybe there was, but no way was Aaron a better homerun hitter.
And, I wouldn't be shocked if Rose juiced up a bit in the 80s at the end of his run. It was the thing to do.
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i say better hitter as a contact hitter Rose>Bonds but like i said as for slugging/homers of course it's Bonds, though i think Henry Aaron is better.
Of course Rose is a better contact hitter than Bonds. I'd still take Barry as the better overall player.
Also, Aaron still has a few thousand more at bats than Bonds so despite Steroid use Aaron still had way more chances though. Doesn't matter because Ruth is the best slugger in history and it's hard to deny that. 4000 more at bats for Aaron and only 40 more homeruns. When Asaron had reached the total number of at bats Ruth had Aaron wasn't even at 500 HRs. And don't give that Ruth didn't hit against black pitchers crap like many do because Aaron only hit against one or two great black pitchers and it was once in a blue moon. To this day the number of black pitchers is only like 3% of pitchers, and I think it peaked a 6% in the early 80s. Now I'm not saying there may not have been a slugger in the negroe leagues that could beat Ruth. Who knows maybe there was, but no way was Aaron a better homerun hitter.
And, I wouldn't be shocked if Rose juiced up a bit in the 80s at the end of his run. It was the thing to do.
Homerun hitters for me goes like this Ruth>Aaron>>Bonds
as for Rose juicing up, same could be said for anyone who ever played the game, the only difference between Rose and Bonds on that one is, Bonds admitted to unknowingly taking Roids and now test positive in this test and Rose has never been accused of doing so.
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i say better hitter as a contact hitter Rose>Bonds but like i said as for slugging/homers of course it's Bonds, though i think Henry Aaron is better.
Of course Rose is a better contact hitter than Bonds. I'd still take Barry as the better overall player.
Also, Aaron still has a few thousand more at bats than Bonds so despite Steroid use Aaron still had way more chances though. Doesn't matter because Ruth is the best slugger in history and it's hard to deny that. 4000 more at bats for Aaron and only 40 more homeruns. When Asaron had reached the total number of at bats Ruth had Aaron wasn't even at 500 HRs. And don't give that Ruth didn't hit against black pitchers crap like many do because Aaron only hit against one or two great black pitchers and it was once in a blue moon. To this day the number of black pitchers is only like 3% of pitchers, and I think it peaked a 6% in the early 80s. Now I'm not saying there may not have been a slugger in the negroe leagues that could beat Ruth. Who knows maybe there was, but no way was Aaron a better homerun hitter.
And, I wouldn't be shocked if Rose juiced up a bit in the 80s at the end of his run. It was the thing to do.
Homerun hitters for me goes like this Ruth>Aaron>>Bonds
as for Rose juicing up, same could be said for anyone who ever played the game, the only difference between Rose and Bonds on that one is, Bonds admitted to unknowingly taking Roids and now test positive in this test and Rose has never been accused of doing so.
I just assume that the majority of athletes in every athletic sport juice up in some way. Most don't do it to cheat. They do it because they know others do it and they want to level the playing field. So until technology gets to the point were you can instantly test every drug at once and see the results right away, and the leagues get serious about coming down on steroid use, you will see it everywhere.
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i say better hitter as a contact hitter Rose>Bonds but like i said as for slugging/homers of course it's Bonds, though i think Henry Aaron is better.
Of course Rose is a better contact hitter than Bonds. I'd still take Barry as the better overall player.
Also, Aaron still has a few thousand more at bats than Bonds so despite Steroid use Aaron still had way more chances though. Doesn't matter because Ruth is the best slugger in history and it's hard to deny that. 4000 more at bats for Aaron and only 40 more homeruns. When Asaron had reached the total number of at bats Ruth had Aaron wasn't even at 500 HRs. And don't give that Ruth didn't hit against black pitchers crap like many do because Aaron only hit against one or two great black pitchers and it was once in a blue moon. To this day the number of black pitchers is only like 3% of pitchers, and I think it peaked a 6% in the early 80s. Now I'm not saying there may not have been a slugger in the negroe leagues that could beat Ruth. Who knows maybe there was, but no way was Aaron a better homerun hitter.
And, I wouldn't be shocked if Rose juiced up a bit in the 80s at the end of his run. It was the thing to do.
Homerun hitters for me goes like this Ruth>Aaron>>Bonds
as for Rose juicing up, same could be said for anyone who ever played the game, the only difference between Rose and Bonds on that one is, Bonds admitted to unknowingly taking Roids and now test positive in this test and Rose has never been accused of doing so.
I just assume that the majority of athletes in every athletic sport juice up in some way. Most don't do it to cheat. They do it because they know others do it and they want to level the playing field. So until technology gets to the point were you can instantly test every drug at once and see the results right away, and the leagues get serious about coming down on steroid use, you will see it everywhere.
yeah it's a joke nowadays
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for alll we know roids have been in baseball for years, how do we even know what records really are tainted? Thats all im saying..
aight aight, and I do agree with you on that.... I guess I'm just kinda wondering why anyone would still root for him that's all
cuz like I said before, to me no matter who did it they're a bitch, even my favorite player.... so pretty much MLB = wack
yeah hes a bitch for doing steroids, but he is on my favorite team and when he comes up to bat im not gonna root for the guy to strikeout, and you wouldnt either, and you know it..
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LOL at comparing Pete Rose to Barry Bonds :-X
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LOL at comparing Pete Rose to Barry Bonds :-X
I don't think anybody on here should compare Pete Rose to Barry Bonds
simply because nobody ever saw him play
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LOL at comparing Pete Rose to Barry Bonds :-X
I don't think anybody on here should compare Pete Rose to Barry Bonds
simply because nobody ever saw him play
you can still compare the 2, stats in Baseball tell alot. I didnt watch Willie Mays play, but all you have to do is listen to Joe Morgan or Peter Gammons or any other people his age to know he was the best, Im sorry Bonds is WAY better than Pete Rose and that I know homie.
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LOL at comparing Pete Rose to Barry Bonds :-X
I don't think anybody on here should compare Pete Rose to Barry Bonds
simply because nobody ever saw him play
you can still compare the 2, stats in Baseball tell alot. I didnt watch Willie Mays play, but all you have to do is listen to Joe Morgan or Peter Gammons or any other people his age to know he was the best, Im sorry Bonds is WAY better than Pete Rose and that I know homie.
I didn't say Rose was better
my point is they played in seperate times, were different types of hitters, nobody here ever saw anything but Rose highlights
so to compare them as baseball players in a discussion with a bunch of people under 25, it's not legit
it goes nowhere, notice the last few pages are the same shit: no he isn't, yes he is, no he isn't, yes he is
and this isn't somebody like Joe Morgan talking about it, it's a bunch of young kids
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^^thats real talk
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LOL at comparing Pete Rose to Barry Bonds :-X
I don't think anybody on here should compare Pete Rose to Barry Bonds
simply because nobody ever saw him play
you can still compare the 2, stats in Baseball tell alot. I didnt watch Willie Mays play, but all you have to do is listen to Joe Morgan or Peter Gammons or any other people his age to know he was the best, Im sorry Bonds is WAY better than Pete Rose and that I know homie.
I didn't say Rose was better
my point is they played in seperate times, were different types of hitters, nobody here ever saw anything but Rose highlights
so to compare them as baseball players in a discussion with a bunch of people under 25, it's not legit
it goes nowhere, notice the last few pages are the same shit: no he isn't, yes he is, no he isn't, yes he is
and this isn't somebody like Joe Morgan talking about it, it's a bunch of young kids
Real talk, but you dont have too see someone play to know they are great. I never saw Sweetness play really, but i know how great he was
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LOL at comparing Pete Rose to Barry Bonds :-X
I don't think anybody on here should compare Pete Rose to Barry Bonds
simply because nobody ever saw him play
you can still compare the 2, stats in Baseball tell alot. I didnt watch Willie Mays play, but all you have to do is listen to Joe Morgan or Peter Gammons or any other people his age to know he was the best, Im sorry Bonds is WAY better than Pete Rose and that I know homie.
I didn't say Rose was better
my point is they played in seperate times, were different types of hitters, nobody here ever saw anything but Rose highlights
so to compare them as baseball players in a discussion with a bunch of people under 25, it's not legit
it goes nowhere, notice the last few pages are the same shit: no he isn't, yes he is, no he isn't, yes he is
and this isn't somebody like Joe Morgan talking about it, it's a bunch of young kids
Joe Morgan also doesn't watch every AB for every single player in the game today, so that's where stats come in. The last pages haven't been a yes vs no arguement, I proved my point and it stuck. The better overall hitter is Bonds, just because Rose played in a different era doesn't make it impossible to judge. Plus, even if you were to get people that actually seen both played and judge them without the use of stats, they won't really know who really is better because our eyes do not tell the entire truth.
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when i was comparing the both i was going off contact hitter, you can't deny Rose's achievements give the dude some credit, he played 23 major league years with a .303 batting average that's fuckin impressive.
if you want to go off by who's the better player than yes Bonds is the better player, HR hitter, slugging, and defensive (at his prime) and i would rather see Rose come up to bat than Bonds. I would rather have the ball in play than have it go over the big green monster. But if you want to talk about HR, slugging, and power hitters Ruth shits on Bonds and i prefer Aaron over Bonds.