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Title: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on February 08, 2007, 12:39:05 PM
I'm in NYC and I got Doggystyle the day it came out on cassette and a month later on CD and both had Next Episode listed in the back  but were not on there, G'z Up Ho's Down is there, #18 on my CD, Pump Pump is #19 and Next Episode is #17 but its the Sam Sneed skit
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Brutus on February 08, 2007, 12:48:38 PM
no, it wasn't
use the search option you will find at least 10 topics like this
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on February 08, 2007, 01:09:51 PM
no, it wasn't
use the search option you will find at least 10 topics like this


props
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Tanjential on February 09, 2007, 11:13:04 AM
I'm in NYC and I got Doggystyle the day it came out on cassette and a month later on CD and both had Next Episode listed in the back  but were not on there, G'z Up Ho's Down is there, #18 on my CD, Pump Pump is #19 and Next Episode is #17 but its the Sam Sneed skit

so next ep is listed but it's just the sneed skit?

-T
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: XaNdEr on February 09, 2007, 11:20:11 AM
I'm in NYC and I got Doggystyle the day it came out on cassette and a month later on CD and both had Next Episode listed in the back  but were not on there, G'z Up Ho's Down is there, #18 on my CD, Pump Pump is #19 and Next Episode is #17 but its the Sam Sneed skit

so next ep is listed but it's just the sneed skit?

-T

basically theres 2 versions of Doggystyle

1 with all skits separated from the actuall songs and 1 with 13 tracks with the skits attached to the songs, i got the 13 tracks one, thats gangsta  8)
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Tanjential on February 09, 2007, 11:25:30 AM
that's now. the early editions had gz up hoes down. but apparently they may have had next ep too unless I'm mistaken which doesn't make sense to me cause there's no CD quality version to my knowledge....damnit, I've been having this discussion with strangers over the internet since 1999....damn

-T
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: XaNdEr on February 09, 2007, 11:28:03 AM
that's now. the early editions had gz up hoes down. but apparently they may have had next ep too unless I'm mistaken which doesn't make sense to me cause there's no CD quality version to my knowledge....damnit, I've been having this discussion with strangers over the internet since 1999....damn

-T

maybe its a conspiracy against us, the plot thought of by everyone who owns the original cd and they agreed to not share next episode and let us live in a mistery....goddayum, aint life a bitch  :'(
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Tanjential on February 09, 2007, 11:28:48 AM
that'd be crazy as shit.

-T
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: XaNdEr on February 09, 2007, 11:37:19 AM
the world is a crazy place, i learned that a long time ago  8)


but if that be the case ill eat all my sneakers  :P
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on February 09, 2007, 12:23:33 PM
i copped the cassette the first day it dropped at the wherehouse in north hollywood (no longer there).........yes g'z up hoes down is on there, and no, next episode is not, but it is listed...........
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Sosna on February 09, 2007, 02:32:12 PM
It was only on vinyl version of "Doggystyle" I think. I saw somewhere the photo of this LP and "Tha Next Episode" was on it...
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Tanjential on February 09, 2007, 02:43:11 PM
It was only on vinyl version of "Doggystyle" I think. I saw somewhere the photo of this LP and "Tha Next Episode" was on it...

but once more, just listed. not on the album

-T
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: No Compute on February 09, 2007, 03:01:33 PM
It was never on any version of the album, it was listed on the back cover of the first batch of albums but never on any  (unlike G'z And Hustlerz which was on the first batch but removed probably due to sample clearance issues). Death Row do a pretty good job of fucking up the inserts on their albums.
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Tanjential on February 09, 2007, 03:57:30 PM
It was never on any version of the album, it was listed on the back cover of the first batch of albums but never on any  (unlike G'z And Hustlerz which was on the first batch but removed probably due to sample clearance issues). Death Row do a pretty good job of fucking up the inserts on their albums.

you mean gz up hoez down?

-T
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: M Dogg™ on February 09, 2007, 09:22:59 PM
From what I understood, my cousin  had bought Doggystyle bootleg style, before it came out from the swap meet. He got a version that had some different songs, and not fully mixed songs that ended up in the album, and some songs that were completely remixed. Who knows, but some CDQ's of some of these songs need to be released. SUUUUGGEEEEE, how much could these unreleased track make you SUUUGGEEEE!!!!
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: 4108 on February 09, 2007, 09:53:32 PM
could it just rightfully and intentionally be a skit called "the next episode" and not the legendary mystic un-released track? haha
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: M Dogg™ on February 09, 2007, 10:24:51 PM
The skit is called Sam Sneed, or U Betta Reconize or something like that.
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Noname on February 10, 2007, 01:44:26 AM
Does this track actually exist in CDQ?
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Don Seer on February 10, 2007, 01:53:57 AM
^ theres no way..

I'm in NYC and I got Doggystyle the day it came out on cassette and a month later on CD and both had Next Episode listed in the back  but were not on there, G'z Up Ho's Down is there, #18 on my CD, Pump Pump is #19 and Next Episode is #17 but its the Sam Sneed skit

so next ep is listed but it's just the sneed skit?

-T

basically theres 2 versions of Doggystyle

1 with all skits separated from the actuall songs and 1 with 13 tracks with the skits attached to the songs, i got the 13 tracks one, thats gangsta  8)
uh... never heard of a version with the skits attached the songs..

as far as i know there are 3 versions of the doggystyle cd.

1.. the version with gz up, hoez down and next episode listed.
2.. the same version with gz up,down removed from the cd, and the tracklisting fixed
3.. the digitally remastered version of '2'.

it may LOOK like the skits are attached due to the tracklist on the cd cover but the cd has more actual tracks

It was only on vinyl version of "Doggystyle" I think. I saw somewhere the photo of this LP and "Tha Next Episode" was on it...

but once more, just listed. not on the album

-T

eh?  are you just making this up tanjint?  the vinyl version doesnt have a tracklist on the sleeve..

i have an early pressing of doggstyle on vinyl.. and it lists every track correctly ON both sides. including gz up, hoez down and even the skits are listed.

Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Sosna on February 10, 2007, 03:16:49 AM
Damn, Suge should put this track on tha album! This song rules!
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on February 10, 2007, 06:37:47 AM
^ theres no way..

I'm in NYC and I got Doggystyle the day it came out on cassette and a month later on CD and both had Next Episode listed in the back  but were not on there, G'z Up Ho's Down is there, #18 on my CD, Pump Pump is #19 and Next Episode is #17 but its the Sam Sneed skit

so next ep is listed but it's just the sneed skit?

-T

basically theres 2 versions of Doggystyle

1 with all skits separated from the actuall songs and 1 with 13 tracks with the skits attached to the songs, i got the 13 tracks one, thats gangsta  8)
uh... never heard of a version with the skits attached the songs..

as far as i know there are 3 versions of the doggystyle cd.

1.. the version with gz up, hoez down and next episode listed.
2.. the same version with gz up,down removed from the cd, and the tracklisting fixed
3.. the digitally remastered version of '2'.

it may LOOK like the skits are attached due to the tracklist on the cd cover but the cd has more actual tracks

It was only on vinyl version of "Doggystyle" I think. I saw somewhere the photo of this LP and "Tha Next Episode" was on it...

but once more, just listed. not on the album

-T

eh?  are you just making this up tanjint?  the vinyl version doesnt have a tracklist on the sleeve..

i have an early pressing of doggstyle on vinyl.. and it lists every track correctly ON both sides. including gz up, hoez down and even the skits are listed.



yeah I got #1, skits are not listed on the back, but there are 19 tracks including the skits that aren't listed, G'z Up Ho's down is on the CD but Next Episode isn't. but when I put the album on my Ipod it listed Next Episode as #17 which is the Sam Sneed skit just before G'z Up Hos Down which is listed as 18 and Pump Pump as 19
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: EFFeX on February 10, 2007, 07:12:13 AM
It was only on vinyl version of "Doggystyle" I think. I saw somewhere the photo of this LP and "Tha Next Episode" was on it...

Na, I got Doggystyle on vinyl and it's not on there...
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: rayman on February 10, 2007, 08:07:32 AM
why did it get taken off the album

that track was CRAZY
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on February 10, 2007, 08:44:05 AM
why did it get taken off the album

that track was CRAZY

im guessing they had trouble clearing the sample, but the song is definitely crazy I'd give it a definite 4.5/5. not as good as the top songs on Doggystyle, but definitely good enough way to end that album, back and forth rapping of Snoop and Dre is classic, smooth beat and Snoops flow on this is  :o
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: 4108 on February 10, 2007, 09:59:21 AM
why did it get taken off the album

that track was CRAZY

im guessing they had trouble clearing the sample, but the song is definitely crazy I'd give it a definite 4.5/5. not as good as the top songs on Doggystyle, but definitely good enough way to end that album, back and forth rapping of Snoop and Dre is classic, smooth beat and Snoops flow on this is  :o

Yeah, its easy to tell T.N.E  is a skeletal beat. Well, the version we have now, thats not in CDQ. (Of course that is self explainatory since it is not in CDQ to begin with,) but I personally think T.N.E as a track would have found a way to fit in perfectly if Dre finished the production on it. However, he probably didnt fuck with it, and the reason for certain we may neve know but I'll just go with the popular obvious and say it was probably sample clearance. I just know the same sample was used by warren g on regulators.
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Tanjential on February 10, 2007, 03:33:53 PM
do we know what it sampled?

-T
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on February 10, 2007, 03:51:56 PM
do we know what it sampled?

-T
same sample a warren g's running wit no breaks, which has been said is why it didnt make the album......the sample source escapes me at the moment, but it was also used on a dream warriors song........it a fairly well known sample
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on February 10, 2007, 03:59:21 PM
the sample is from les McCan's 'go on & cry'
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Tanjential on February 10, 2007, 04:05:23 PM
thanks +1

-T
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: XaNdEr on February 11, 2007, 12:08:38 AM
^ theres no way..

I'm in NYC and I got Doggystyle the day it came out on cassette and a month later on CD and both had Next Episode listed in the back  but were not on there, G'z Up Ho's Down is there, #18 on my CD, Pump Pump is #19 and Next Episode is #17 but its the Sam Sneed skit

so next ep is listed but it's just the sneed skit?

-T

basically theres 2 versions of Doggystyle

1 with all skits separated from the actuall songs and 1 with 13 tracks with the skits attached to the songs, i got the 13 tracks one, thats gangsta  8)
uh... never heard of a version with the skits attached the songs..

as far as i know there are 3 versions of the doggystyle cd.

1.. the version with gz up, hoez down and next episode listed.
2.. the same version with gz up,down removed from the cd, and the tracklisting fixed
3.. the digitally remastered version of '2'.

it may LOOK like the skits are attached due to the tracklist on the cd cover but the cd has more actual tracks

i have the copy where theres only 13 tracks, i can even scan the cover for you if you dont believe me, its official, still got the death row sticker on it
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on February 11, 2007, 06:45:46 AM
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/oldschoolrapcds/Picture1068.jpg?vvid=62815803&allow_track_link=1&track=0236f8dc96-d8c6f&sp=1


this is the version I got, some dude selling it on ebay
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: T-Dogg on February 11, 2007, 09:00:35 AM
^ theres no way..

I'm in NYC and I got Doggystyle the day it came out on cassette and a month later on CD and both had Next Episode listed in the back  but were not on there, G'z Up Ho's Down is there, #18 on my CD, Pump Pump is #19 and Next Episode is #17 but its the Sam Sneed skit

so next ep is listed but it's just the sneed skit?

-T

basically theres 2 versions of Doggystyle

1 with all skits separated from the actuall songs and 1 with 13 tracks with the skits attached to the songs, i got the 13 tracks one, thats gangsta  8)
uh... never heard of a version with the skits attached the songs..

as far as i know there are 3 versions of the doggystyle cd.

1.. the version with gz up, hoez down and next episode listed.
2.. the same version with gz up,down removed from the cd, and the tracklisting fixed
3.. the digitally remastered version of '2'.

it may LOOK like the skits are attached due to the tracklist on the cd cover but the cd has more actual tracks

i have the copy where theres only 13 tracks, i can even scan the cover for you if you dont believe me, its official, still got the death row sticker on it

Scanning the cover wouldn't prove a damn thing. My copy of Doggystyle also has 13 tracks in the tracklist, but the CD actually has 18 tracks since the skit tracks aren't listed. I'm not saying you're lying, just saying that a scan of a 13 track tracklist isn't special.
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Don Seer on February 11, 2007, 10:43:52 AM
^ theres no way..

I'm in NYC and I got Doggystyle the day it came out on cassette and a month later on CD and both had Next Episode listed in the back  but were not on there, G'z Up Ho's Down is there, #18 on my CD, Pump Pump is #19 and Next Episode is #17 but its the Sam Sneed skit

so next ep is listed but it's just the sneed skit?

-T

basically theres 2 versions of Doggystyle

1 with all skits separated from the actuall songs and 1 with 13 tracks with the skits attached to the songs, i got the 13 tracks one, thats gangsta  8)
uh... never heard of a version with the skits attached the songs..

as far as i know there are 3 versions of the doggystyle cd.

1.. the version with gz up, hoez down and next episode listed.
2.. the same version with gz up,down removed from the cd, and the tracklisting fixed
3.. the digitally remastered version of '2'.

it may LOOK like the skits are attached due to the tracklist on the cd cover but the cd has more actual tracks

i have the copy where theres only 13 tracks, i can even scan the cover for you if you dont believe me, its official, still got the death row sticker on it

Scanning the cover wouldn't prove a damn thing. My copy of Doggystyle also has 13 tracks in the tracklist, but the CD actually has 18 tracks since the skit tracks aren't listed. I'm not saying you're lying, just saying that a scan of a 13 track tracklist isn't special.

yup thats what i been saying..

the vinyl version has the names for the skit not listed on the cd version..
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: Si-Chiggedy on February 11, 2007, 11:10:56 AM
LOL? I looked at my version. I got the OG version of Doggystyle, with Gz Up Hoez Down but Next Episode is not listed.
Title: Re: Was the Next Episode OG really on the first pressing of Doggystyle?
Post by: XaNdEr on February 11, 2007, 11:24:37 AM
^ theres no way..

I'm in NYC and I got Doggystyle the day it came out on cassette and a month later on CD and both had Next Episode listed in the back  but were not on there, G'z Up Ho's Down is there, #18 on my CD, Pump Pump is #19 and Next Episode is #17 but its the Sam Sneed skit

so next ep is listed but it's just the sneed skit?

-T

basically theres 2 versions of Doggystyle

1 with all skits separated from the actuall songs and 1 with 13 tracks with the skits attached to the songs, i got the 13 tracks one, thats gangsta  8)
uh... never heard of a version with the skits attached the songs..

as far as i know there are 3 versions of the doggystyle cd.

1.. the version with gz up, hoez down and next episode listed.
2.. the same version with gz up,down removed from the cd, and the tracklisting fixed
3.. the digitally remastered version of '2'.

it may LOOK like the skits are attached due to the tracklist on the cd cover but the cd has more actual tracks

i have the copy where theres only 13 tracks, i can even scan the cover for you if you dont believe me, its official, still got the death row sticker on it

Scanning the cover wouldn't prove a damn thing. My copy of Doggystyle also has 13 tracks in the tracklist, but the CD actually has 18 tracks since the skit tracks aren't listed. I'm not saying you're lying, just saying that a scan of a 13 track tracklist isn't special.

yup thats what i been saying..

the vinyl version has the names for the skit not listed on the cd version..


my cd has 13 tracks, i can upload it if you want, then you can hear for yourself

http://www.nl.bol.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/nl/-/EUR/BOL_DisplayProductInformation-Start?BOL_OWNER_ID=1000004003221877&Section=MUSIC&lgl=1&plid=44iR5LdLE90AAAEQmQKFIrJD&lgl_BOL_OWNER_ID=1&lgl_Section=1

thats where i got it