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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Dogg Ly Dogg on August 01, 2007, 04:14:31 AM
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01. This Is Los Angeles
02. West Coast Voodoo (feat. The Game)
03. Jack and the Bean Stalk
04. Paranoid
05. Guilty by Affiliation
06. Dodgeball (feat. Snoop Dogg & Butch Cassidy)
07. Keep It 100
08. Crazy Toones 4 President
09. If You See a Bad Bitch
10. Look at Me
11. Side Dick
12. 80s Babies (feat. Ice Cube)
13. Gang Injunctions
14. Addicted to It
Didnt see yet on the board so there it is, the tracklist for that new WC album according to Amazon.com
Another snippet posted on Raptalk
WC - Gang Injunctions (Snippet) http://media.raptalk.net/audio/Gang-Injunctions-Snippet.mp3
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Canīt wait on that shit :)
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gon be fire ! :D
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Damn that's gonna be a hot album.. at least WC got a dope flow an spits hard (NO HOMO) on the beat ... not this weak lazy flow most of the rappers have these days...
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looks dope.. can not wait for this to come out
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I would like to see more features on the album. Some Nate Dogg or Kokane would have been nice. From what ive heard its gonna be dope, deff copin this 8)
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I hope this actually drops on the 14th, but is it really going to? What's the single? I know they're really trying to give Dub a push this time, so it wouldn't make sense to drop this without a single/video/all that.
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I hope this actually drops on the 14th, but is it really going to? What's the single? I know they're really trying to give Dub a push this time, so it wouldn't make sense to drop this without a single/video/all that.
yea i was thinking this last night...we are 2 weeks away from the 14th, and we don't even have a single yet ???
Xzibit pushed 17,000 1st week, WITH a video/single...Dub might struggle 2 hit 20,000 also his first week if he ain't got no single..and nobody give me that b.s "this is l.a." video, a REAL video
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I hope this actually drops on the 14th, but is it really going to? What's the single? I know they're really trying to give Dub a push this time, so it wouldn't make sense to drop this without a single/video/all that.
yea i was thinking this last night...we are 2 weeks away from the 14th, and we don't even have a single yet ???
Xzibit pushed 17,000 1st week, WITH a video/single...Dub might struggle 2 hit 20,000 also his first week if he ain't got no single..and nobody give me that b.s "this is l.a." video, a REAL video
Yeah that is what it is looking like. And X's video premiered on MTV after his record dropped. It has had ALOT of article promo in XXL and the Source and the Source labeled it one of the must have summer releases but other than that not a whole lot has been put out there.
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I hope this actually drops on the 14th, but is it really going to? What's the single? I know they're really trying to give Dub a push this time, so it wouldn't make sense to drop this without a single/video/all that.
yea i was thinking this last night...we are 2 weeks away from the 14th, and we don't even have a single yet ???
Xzibit pushed 17,000 1st week, WITH a video/single...Dub might struggle 2 hit 20,000 also his first week if he ain't got no single..and nobody give me that b.s "this is l.a." video, a REAL video
Yeah that is what it is looking like. And X's video premiered on MTV after his record dropped. It has had ALOT of article promo in XXL and the Source and the Source labeled it one of the must have summer releases but other than that not a whole lot has been put out there.
true on the X thing...Article promo ain't enough no more..I'd LOVE 2 see Dub sell a million first week, don't get me wrong, but I just think as of right now, he'll have a tough time pushing 20,000 1st week, let alone doin enough total 2 call it a success (at least around 200,000)
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I hope this actually drops on the 14th, but is it really going to? What's the single? I know they're really trying to give Dub a push this time, so it wouldn't make sense to drop this without a single/video/all that.
yea i was thinking this last night...we are 2 weeks away from the 14th, and we don't even have a single yet ???
Xzibit pushed 17,000 1st week, WITH a video/single...Dub might struggle 2 hit 20,000 also his first week if he ain't got no single..and nobody give me that b.s "this is l.a." video, a REAL video
Yeah that is what it is looking like. And X's video premiered on MTV after his record dropped. It has had ALOT of article promo in XXL and the Source and the Source labeled it one of the must have summer releases but other than that not a whole lot has been put out there.
true on the X thing...Article promo ain't enough no more..I'd LOVE 2 see Dub sell a million first week, don't get me wrong, but I just think as of right now, he'll have a tough time pushing 20,000 1st week, let alone doin enough total 2 call it a success (at least around 200,000)
Yeah that is not enough. Hopefully people will hit the stores and pick it up though. But they do need a mainstream video out for something eventually to help out with sales.
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I hope this actually drops on the 14th, but is it really going to? What's the single? I know they're really trying to give Dub a push this time, so it wouldn't make sense to drop this without a single/video/all that.
yea i was thinking this last night...we are 2 weeks away from the 14th, and we don't even have a single yet ???
Xzibit pushed 17,000 1st week, WITH a video/single...Dub might struggle 2 hit 20,000 also his first week if he ain't got no single..and nobody give me that b.s "this is l.a." video, a REAL video
Yeah that is what it is looking like. And X's video premiered on MTV after his record dropped. It has had ALOT of article promo in XXL and the Source and the Source labeled it one of the must have summer releases but other than that not a whole lot has been put out there.
true on the X thing...Article promo ain't enough no more..I'd LOVE 2 see Dub sell a million first week, don't get me wrong, but I just think as of right now, he'll have a tough time pushing 20,000 1st week, let alone doin enough total 2 call it a success (at least around 200,000)
Yeah that is not enough. Hopefully people will hit the stores and pick it up though. But they do need a mainstream video out for something eventually to help out with sales.
yea they really do...and honestly, in today's music world, droppin a song AFTER your album is out really does nothin
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Well I ain't going to dwell on it too much. Hopefully the album will be well recieved.
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Yeah...i'm getting concerned that Cube and WC are actually tryin to sell the "This is La" video as the real thing. I hope thats not the case cause Dub deserves at least one really mainstream single with a quality video along with it. Also, WC aint a big name like Cube, so him being on an independant means his 1st weeks sales are gonna be almost everything...the single needs to come out like TODAY.
Anyway, I'm telling everyone i know to cop the album....so everyone else do the same. I'm gonna try to get as many people as I can to put money down for it. I already got my 2 brothers and like 3 of my boys. So everybody spread the word..WC needs the love, he's been in the game long enough and imo its his time.
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cant wait! u can tell they wanna sell plenty copies! wit cube on the cover and saying "from the wc connection"
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Don't get so caught up on his numbers. With Dub being indie, he's able to do the music that he wants, and the music that his fans want. A lot of cats have to sell millions just to pay back their label. Kanye had to push something like 2.6 mill on his last album just to recoup.
Albums that are indie are on a much smaller cost scale. Video's, Production, Features, are on a smaller budget which I think is fan-fucking-tastic anyway. This isn't about the flashiest video, the big name features, or the producer of the week. It's about Dub droppin an album the exact way he wants. And yall should be happy as fuck about it. I don't even remotely fuck w/ the West Coast anymore becuase they've devolved into a bunch of wack ass bitin motherfuckers tryin to ride whatever's hot *cough Quik / Snoop etc.*
But Dub I will always cop, because he's got one of the sickest flows in the game, he's makin the shit he wants and the shit he knows his true fans want to hear. So don't worry about him pushing big units - just focus on the music.
So even if he only pushes 20k the first week, that will be more than enough to recoup anything and make some nice profits. He's already ahead of 90% of the cats fuckin with the major labels.
And word, I can't wait for this album. Dub is one of the last real ones left on the West.
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Don't get so caught up on his numbers. With Dub being indie, he's able to do the music that he wants, and the music that his fans want. A lot of cats have to sell millions just to pay back their label. Kanye had to push something like 2.6 mill on his last album just to recoup.
Albums that are indie are on a much smaller cost scale. Video's, Production, Features, are on a smaller budget which I think is fan-fucking-tastic anyway. This isn't about the flashiest video, the big name features, or the producer of the week. It's about Dub droppin an album the exact way he wants. And yall should be happy as fuck about it. I don't even remotely fuck w/ the West Coast anymore becuase they've devolved into a bunch of wack ass bitin motherfuckers tryin to ride whatever's hot *cough Quik / Snoop etc.*
But Dub I will always cop, because he's got one of the sickest flows in the game, he's makin the shit he wants and the shit he knows his true fans want to hear. So don't worry about him pushing big units - just focus on the music.
So even if he only pushes 20k the first week, that will be more than enough to recoup anything and make some nice profits. He's already ahead of 90% of the cats fuckin with the major labels.
And word, I can't wait for this album. Dub is one of the last real ones left on the West.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the fact that Dub is on a indie, and is getting 2 make the music he wants...because i know the music he wants 2 make is gonna be dope as fuck 8)
But at the same, there's a way 2 do both really..Cube was independent and didn't really "force" any records on his album (besides 1 or 2, and it was a really really long album), and he sold extremely well
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propz looks good. shud leak soon
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Sounds good.
By the way, I find it interesting that this album will see the first collaboration between Snoop and Butch Cassidy in 5(!) years. Didn't they split ways in 2002?
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looks dope.. can not wait for this to come out
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Don't get so caught up on his numbers. With Dub being indie, he's able to do the music that he wants, and the music that his fans want. A lot of cats have to sell millions just to pay back their label. Kanye had to push something like 2.6 mill on his last album just to recoup.
Albums that are indie are on a much smaller cost scale. Video's, Production, Features, are on a smaller budget which I think is fan-fucking-tastic anyway. This isn't about the flashiest video, the big name features, or the producer of the week. It's about Dub droppin an album the exact way he wants. And yall should be happy as fuck about it. I don't even remotely fuck w/ the West Coast anymore becuase they've devolved into a bunch of wack ass bitin motherfuckers tryin to ride whatever's hot *cough Quik / Snoop etc.*
But Dub I will always cop, because he's got one of the sickest flows in the game, he's makin the shit he wants and the shit he knows his true fans want to hear. So don't worry about him pushing big units - just focus on the music.
So even if he only pushes 20k the first week, that will be more than enough to recoup anything and make some nice profits. He's already ahead of 90% of the cats fuckin with the major labels.
And word, I can't wait for this album. Dub is one of the last real ones left on the West.
Real spit man. +1
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Don't get so caught up on his numbers. With Dub being indie, he's able to do the music that he wants, and the music that his fans want. A lot of cats have to sell millions just to pay back their label. Kanye had to push something like 2.6 mill on his last album just to recoup.
Albums that are indie are on a much smaller cost scale. Video's, Production, Features, are on a smaller budget which I think is fan-fucking-tastic anyway. This isn't about the flashiest video, the big name features, or the producer of the week. It's about Dub droppin an album the exact way he wants. And yall should be happy as fuck about it. I don't even remotely fuck w/ the West Coast anymore becuase they've devolved into a bunch of wack ass bitin motherfuckers tryin to ride whatever's hot *cough Quik / Snoop etc.*
But Dub I will always cop, because he's got one of the sickest flows in the game, he's makin the shit he wants and the shit he knows his true fans want to hear. So don't worry about him pushing big units - just focus on the music.
So even if he only pushes 20k the first week, that will be more than enough to recoup anything and make some nice profits. He's already ahead of 90% of the cats fuckin with the major labels.
And word, I can't wait for this album. Dub is one of the last real ones left on the West.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the fact that Dub is on a indie, and is getting 2 make the music he wants...because i know the music he wants 2 make is gonna be dope as fuck 8)
But at the same, there's a way 2 do both really..Cube was independent and didn't really "force" any records on his album (besides 1 or 2, and it was a really really long album), and he sold extremely well
No offense to WC, but Ice Cube can do that. He is Cube, so he was going to have the die hard fans cop the album regardless and then some. I was just surprised they have not pushed a video to more outlets like a BET or MTV but they do have a good team over there at Lench Mob with Tony Draper and others. But like Jrome said, I am happy WC is dropping a album first and foremost and that he is not putting up with the major label drama he did almost all through his career.
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Don't get so caught up on his numbers. With Dub being indie, he's able to do the music that he wants, and the music that his fans want. A lot of cats have to sell millions just to pay back their label. Kanye had to push something like 2.6 mill on his last album just to recoup.
Albums that are indie are on a much smaller cost scale. Video's, Production, Features, are on a smaller budget which I think is fan-fucking-tastic anyway. This isn't about the flashiest video, the big name features, or the producer of the week. It's about Dub droppin an album the exact way he wants. And yall should be happy as fuck about it. I don't even remotely fuck w/ the West Coast anymore becuase they've devolved into a bunch of wack ass bitin motherfuckers tryin to ride whatever's hot *cough Quik / Snoop etc.*
But Dub I will always cop, because he's got one of the sickest flows in the game, he's makin the shit he wants and the shit he knows his true fans want to hear. So don't worry about him pushing big units - just focus on the music.
So even if he only pushes 20k the first week, that will be more than enough to recoup anything and make some nice profits. He's already ahead of 90% of the cats fuckin with the major labels.
And word, I can't wait for this album. Dub is one of the last real ones left on the West.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the fact that Dub is on a indie, and is getting 2 make the music he wants...because i know the music he wants 2 make is gonna be dope as fuck 8)
But at the same, there's a way 2 do both really..Cube was independent and didn't really "force" any records on his album (besides 1 or 2, and it was a really really long album), and he sold extremely well
No offense to WC, but Ice Cube can do that. He is Cube, so he was going to have the die hard fans cop the album regardless and then some. I was just surprised they have not pushed a video to more outlets like a BET or MTV but they do have a good team over there at Lench Mob with Tony Draper and others. But like Jrome said, I am happy WC is dropping a album first and foremost and that he is not putting up with the major label drama he did almost all through his career.
Ofcourse Cube's fanbase is bigger than Dub's...That's why they should be working even harder ;)
Cube got 2 bet/mtv videos man...that's all i'm saying, push a video 2 bet/mtv...westcoast voodoo or that bitch one may get some spins..I am also happy Dub is doin what he wanna do, and not being forced 2 make any tracks (*cough flirt of the ghetto heisman cough*)
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Yeah I understand Luni.
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Yeah I understand Luni.
prizzops 8)
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JRome summed it up.... and the album IS dropping on the 14th... its all systems go...
the problem with doing the big budget video is that even if you do one, there is no gaurantee that MTV or BET is going to play it....and if they do, it will be like at midnight ...
oh yeah... i posted another snippet... of 80's Baby... its on the Gang Injunctions snippet thread here on the dubcc forum
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Don't get so caught up on his numbers. With Dub being indie, he's able to do the music that he wants, and the music that his fans want. A lot of cats have to sell millions just to pay back their label. Kanye had to push something like 2.6 mill on his last album just to recoup.
Albums that are indie are on a much smaller cost scale. Video's, Production, Features, are on a smaller budget which I think is fan-fucking-tastic anyway. This isn't about the flashiest video, the big name features, or the producer of the week. It's about Dub droppin an album the exact way he wants. And yall should be happy as fuck about it. I don't even remotely fuck w/ the West Coast anymore becuase they've devolved into a bunch of wack ass bitin motherfuckers tryin to ride whatever's hot *cough Quik / Snoop etc.*
But Dub I will always cop, because he's got one of the sickest flows in the game, he's makin the shit he wants and the shit he knows his true fans want to hear. So don't worry about him pushing big units - just focus on the music.
So even if he only pushes 20k the first week, that will be more than enough to recoup anything and make some nice profits. He's already ahead of 90% of the cats fuckin with the major labels.
And word, I can't wait for this album. Dub is one of the last real ones left on the West.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the fact that Dub is on a indie, and is getting 2 make the music he wants...because i know the music he wants 2 make is gonna be dope as fuck 8)
But at the same, there's a way 2 do both really..Cube was independent and didn't really "force" any records on his album (besides 1 or 2, and it was a really really long album), and he sold extremely well
No offense to WC, but Ice Cube can do that. He is Cube, so he was going to have the die hard fans cop the album regardless and then some. I was just surprised they have not pushed a video to more outlets like a BET or MTV but they do have a good team over there at Lench Mob with Tony Draper and others. But like Jrome said, I am happy WC is dropping a album first and foremost and that he is not putting up with the major label drama he did almost all through his career.
Ofcourse Cube's fanbase is bigger than Dub's...That's why they should be working even harder ;)
Cube got 2 bet/mtv videos man...that's all i'm saying, push a video 2 bet/mtv...westcoast voodoo or that bitch one may get some spins..I am also happy Dub is doin what he wanna do, and not being forced 2 make any tracks (*cough flirt of the ghetto heisman cough*)
Yeah..i didnt get it either...but it seems like they got people who know more than we do about selling on an independant label. I think they've conceded Dub promoting this album on a national level...so they arent going for BET or MTV...instead they're focusing on his already existing west coast fanbase and maybe expanding on that just a little. I think Dub even said this himself in an interview that was posted recently, they arent trying to get BET or 106 & Park viewers, and i guess it would be a bad investment to put money into trying to promote the album for that audience since any video they do wont get much spin and, as a result, the majority of them wont be swayed...and since his video wont
Cube, on the other had, is best served promoting the album nationally because he has a fanbase thats national, even though mostly westcoast.
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But at the same, there's a way 2 do both really..Cube was independent and didn't really "force" any records on his album (besides 1 or 2, and it was a really really long album), and he sold extremely well
I think Cube's last album is one of the most overrated albums of the last few years. Beat wise it sounded like a generic compilation album, which did no good to the record. I hope WC's album isn't going to end up like that. The sampler sounded alright, but the (full) songs that I've heard so far didn't impress me.
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But at the same, there's a way 2 do both really..Cube was independent and didn't really "force" any records on his album (besides 1 or 2, and it was a really really long album), and he sold extremely well
I think Cube's last album is one of the most overrated albums of the last few years. Beat wise it sounded like a generic compilation album, which did no good to the record. I hope WC's album isn't going to end up like that. The sampler sounded alright, but the (full) songs that I've heard so far didn't impress me.
While that may be true, all albums these days, with few exceptions, has produced in similar fashion...that is their is a compilation of producers giving beats and the album is layed out accordingly. The days of seeing great, uniform, production carried out on an album are long gone.
EDIT:At least Cube spit substance on that album, it was waaaaaaay better than the Peace Disc, and even better than the War Disc, although not by much
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But at the same, there's a way 2 do both really..Cube was independent and didn't really "force" any records on his album (besides 1 or 2, and it was a really really long album), and he sold extremely well
I think Cube's last album is one of the most overrated albums of the last few years. Beat wise it sounded like a generic compilation album, which did no good to the record. I hope WC's album isn't going to end up like that. The sampler sounded alright, but the (full) songs that I've heard so far didn't impress me.
While that may be true, all albums these days, with few exceptions, has produced in similar fashion...that is their is a compilation of producers giving beats and the album is layed out accordingly. The days of seeing great, uniform, production carried out on an album are long gone.
How about Sean Kingston or Common? Both have recently dropped a good record with one main producer and I can listen to those records without skipping a song.
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But at the same, there's a way 2 do both really..Cube was independent and didn't really "force" any records on his album (besides 1 or 2, and it was a really really long album), and he sold extremely well
I think Cube's last album is one of the most overrated albums of the last few years. Beat wise it sounded like a generic compilation album, which did no good to the record. I hope WC's album isn't going to end up like that. The sampler sounded alright, but the (full) songs that I've heard so far didn't impress me.
While that may be true, all albums these days, with few exceptions, has produced in similar fashion...that is their is a compilation of producers giving beats and the album is layed out accordingly. The days of seeing great, uniform, production carried out on an album are long gone.
How about Sean Kingston or Common? Both have recently dropped a good record with one main producer and I can listen to those records without skipping a song.
Thats why i said with few exceptions...i'll try to find a link to an article that actually talks about how Commons new album is a rarity with the Kanye production etc...and its even worse among westcoast artists
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Thats why i said with few exceptions...i'll try to find a link to an article that actually talks about how Commons new album is a rarity with the Kanye production etc...and its even worse among westcoast artists
Cool... but you know what? People do appreciate these exceptions more. I remember when everyone praised Common because BE was so amazing... but then you come to your senses and realize that that album was good, but by far not as good as one-producer-albums they dropped back in the days lol
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Thats why i said with few exceptions...i'll try to find a link to an article that actually talks about how Commons new album is a rarity with the Kanye production etc...and its even worse among westcoast artists
Cool... but you know what? People do appreciate these exceptions more. I remember when everyone praised Common because BE was so amazing... but then you come to your senses and realize that that album was good, but by far not as good as one-producer-albums they dropped back in the days lol
Oh...i completely agree with that, and thats why most people dont call LNCL a classic....which is why i dont think its overrated to begin with. Most people i've seen think of it as a 4 mic album, bounceback album from Cube on the emceeing tip...but uneven production.
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most albums had 1 producer running the show or almost the whole show...
Nas "illmatic" was pretty much the first line up of super producers..... it worked for that album, but most since seem like they have no personal identity..
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I think Cube's last album is one of the most overrated albums of the last few years. Beat wise it sounded like a generic compilation album, which did no good to the record. I hope WC's album isn't going to end up like that. The sampler sounded alright, but the (full) songs that I've heard so far didn't impress me.
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ice cube's albums aretnt about beats, their about content, every word he says is amaizng, its like he's telling tou a stroy onm each song with a key message in them.
listen to ghetto bird on lethal injection, sure the beat is actually good, but just listen to the words he uses and how cleverly he dies them.
LNCL was the only album i bought in 2006. u dont like the beat, ok thats fair, but if u just want good beats, go listen to some dance music or some booty shaking music, i ce cube isnot about club and booty lusic, he's far more politically charged, and that y he went indie, to play songs he wanted.
and he has never ever had anyone write his lyrics for him, as he said, "fcuk a ghost writer".
defineily the best lyricist and flowing rapper the west has ever produced in my opinion. 2pac was good too, but difference is this
ice cube=gangsta 2pac=thuglife
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lol who gives a fuck about lyrics if the beat is complete trash??? I'd rather get a dope beat with wack lyrics, atleast I could bump my head to that.
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Beats is almost completely subjective. It is really up to the listener what they do or don't like when listening to a album. I thought the beats on LNCL were dope and I am sure somebody as said or already said the beats on GBA by WC will be weak. But IMO the songs I have heard the beats are sick so it's up to the person listening to it to make that decision. It's a opinion at the end of the day.
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Beats is almost completely subjective. It is really up to the listener what they do or don't like when listening to a album. I thought the beats on LNCL were dope and I am sure somebody as said or already said the beats on GBA by WC will be weak. But IMO the songs I have heard the beats are sick so it's up to the person listening to it to make that decision. It's a opinion at the end of the day.
It definetely is subjective...i know a lot of people who criticize the beats on an album like Bow Down...and i cant believe i cause to me hat album beatwise is among the GOATs. But it really is subjective...unlike like lyrics which for the most part are evident.
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lol who gives a fuck about lyrics if the beat is complete trash??? I'd rather get a dope beat with wack lyrics, atleast I could bump my head to that.
Yeah..but thats the point of his post...there is NOTHING wrong with preferring music "you can bump your head to"...but if that is indeed your preference, then Ice Cube is not the artist for you. On the other hand, if you want to hear someone drop knowledge on his tracks, then put in an Ice Cube CD.
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My favorite artists are all great lyricists & drop knowledge but if the beat is wack, then sorry, I ain't gonna listen to the song. Plain & simple.
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Let me add Premo is my favorite producer, I can't bump my head to his music???
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Let me add Premo is my favorite producer, I can't bump my head to his music???
True, and Ice Cube has had dope beats almost his entire career.
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80's Baby Snippet:
http://media.raptalk.net/audio/80s-Baby.mp3
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Thanx for the new snippet
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Hmm that 80s babies track looks interesting, im guessing its gonna be aimed at some of the wack 80s babies.
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you're welcome benson...
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most albums had 1 producer running the show or almost the whole show...
Nas "illmatic" was pretty much the first line up of super producers..... it worked for that album, but most since seem like they have no personal identity..
Damn, you hit it right there... gosh I miss artist doing whole records with one producer.
No personal identity is SOOO correct. It's like the pro and the artist don't even talk about song concepts anymore, it seems like it's just "pick one of these beats, gimme my cash, nigga" with hardly any mutual collaboration between the 2
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looks dope.. can not wait for this to come out
i cant tell this will be 1 of the best albums from the west in years
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most albums had 1 producer running the show or almost the whole show...
Nas "illmatic" was pretty much the first line up of super producers..... it worked for that album, but most since seem like they have no personal identity..
Damn, you hit it right there... gosh I miss artist doing whole records with one producer.
No personal identity is SOOO correct. It's like the pro and the artist don't even talk about song concepts anymore, it seems like it's just "pick one of these beats, gimme my cash, nigga" with hardly any mutual collaboration between the 2
you are right dude.... btw... how do I get in to this magnificent posse? lol...