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Title: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Elano on August 10, 2007, 04:15:41 AM
(http://www.interscope.com/images/local/800/4585d729-0c9a-4e58-ae42-56c3b9b74728.jpg)
He got millions and the power to do everything with his solo album,i thought there was left something good in will.i.am........
....i was wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APHm8DbYkL0
the video is nice with all those chicks but it's fuckin POP.
This is the proof that he don't give a fuck about the music,he just wanna make MONEY.
I can't even imagine how POP will be the rest of the album  :P :P
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: MIC on August 10, 2007, 04:24:33 AM
he just wanna make MONEY.

He's got some nerve, doesn't he ?   ::)
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: es-jay on August 10, 2007, 04:27:25 AM
this is the guy from black eyed peas, right??

yeh, well of course its gonna sound like that.


and "he just wanna make MONEY." - doesnt everyone?
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 10, 2007, 04:28:55 AM
he just wanna make MONEY.

He's got some nerve, doesn't he ?   ::)

LMAO! +1

Speakin of Black Eyed Peas, I can't believe Fergie sings that song "Big Girls Don't Cry". I didn't know she could actually sing cuz she usually makes silly shiet like "Lady Lumps".
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Lazar on August 10, 2007, 04:31:13 AM
Dude can definitely more than that pop garbage
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: BritneySpears on August 10, 2007, 04:37:19 AM
He got millions and the power to do everything with his solo album,i thought there was left something good in will.i.am........
....i was wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APHm8DbYkL0
the video is nice with all those chicks but it's fuckin POP.
This is the proof that he don't give a fuck about the music,he just wanna make MONEY.
I can't even imagine how POP will be the rest of the album  :P :P

You think this guy has the power to do anything he wants with his album? Get your head out of the sand and respect his hustle. You are not the one who is supposed to buy his album; 15-year-olds are.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: MediumL on August 10, 2007, 05:21:45 AM
Black Eyed Peas falling off. I gained some respect for Will I Am after tracks with Common and Game but this song is awful. Also Fergie cant sing!

Last Black eyed Peas song i liked was Dont Lie cause of the funky beat.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: You Ain't Shit on August 10, 2007, 05:45:10 AM
interscope tell them what to do, catering fo mainstream. Interscope was the one who put that bitch in BEP.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Elano on August 10, 2007, 06:01:12 AM
he just wanna make MONEY.

He's got some nerve, doesn't he ?   ::)

What a funny reply  ::)
I hope you are joking
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Elano on August 10, 2007, 06:08:03 AM
He got millions and the power to do everything with his solo album,i thought there was left something good in will.i.am........
....i was wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APHm8DbYkL0
the video is nice with all those chicks but it's fuckin POP.
This is the proof that he don't give a fuck about the music,he just wanna make MONEY.
I can't even imagine how POP will be the rest of the album  :P :P

You think this guy has the power to do anything he wants with his album?

After all the records sold with Bep.......YES
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Big_Ed on August 10, 2007, 06:20:34 AM
he just wanna make MONEY.

He's got some nerve, doesn't he ?   ::)
lol ;D
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 10, 2007, 06:45:36 AM
[img]he just wanna make MONEY.

"If you ain't in this rap game for the motherfuckin cash mayne, then what is your motherfuckin' purpose?" - EDI from Tha Outlawz
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: RECOGNIZE187 on August 10, 2007, 07:06:10 AM
man...u can say whatever u want..but he is one of the most talented producers nowdays...most of his shit went to number 1 ! so good that michael jackson called him and they were workin together for the new MJ album! FUCK RAP and bein underground if u can work with MJ and get $$$$ u feel me  8) 8)
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Elano on August 10, 2007, 07:11:26 AM
(http://he just wanna make MONEY.
[/quote]

"If you ain't in this rap game for the motherfuckin cash mayne, then what is your motherfuckin' purpose?" - EDI from Tha Outlawz
[/quote]

GOOD MUSIC!
he's already a millionaire....and if he wants will is able to release tight records like these ones:
[img]http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/430/434074.jpg)
(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/490/498444.jpg)
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on August 10, 2007, 07:20:15 AM
the video is nice with all those chicks but it's fuckin POP.
Am I the only person who have never considered Peas or Will.I.AM as hip-hop/West Coast representant?
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Ozir on August 10, 2007, 07:50:39 AM
I think dude is talented and has always been about doing fun music.

This track is a clear example of that... those chicks might have gotten it from their mamas, but will.i.am got the sample from an old school 80's club/dance track called "Don Quichotte" by a French group called Magazine 60.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB2z6H9ej9U
(fast forward to 1:50 for the exact sample)

I think hip hop has many faces and is always changing... that's what makes hip hop great.  And will.i.am is definitely an L.A. rep.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: BritneySpears on August 10, 2007, 08:20:37 AM
(http://he just wanna make MONEY.
[/quote]

"If you ain't in this rap game for the motherfuckin cash mayne, then what is your motherfuckin' purpose?" - EDI from Tha Outlawz
[/quote]

GOOD MUSIC!
he's already a millionaire....and if he wants will is able to release tight records like these ones:
[img]http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/430/434074.jpg)
(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/490/498444.jpg)

that cover is tight!
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Mackin on August 10, 2007, 08:26:47 AM
man...u can say whatever u want..but he is one of the most talented producers nowdays...most of his shit went to number 1 ! so good that michael jackson called him and they were workin together for the new MJ album! FUCK RAP and bein underground if u can work with MJ and get $$$$ u feel me  8) 8)

True!!!

Lol@ you guys saying Dude ain't westcaost..balh..blah..blah, and catching feelings!!
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: RECOGNIZE187 on August 10, 2007, 09:46:18 AM
i gues yall don't know tha history...eazy-e and will i am...the relationship they had!!
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Eddie G. on August 10, 2007, 09:54:51 AM
If I ever made a music video, I'd make it exactly like that.  I don't know about you guys, but that looked like the tightest place in the world to be!  He's been making "pop garbage" ever since Fergie came in the group, so why change now?  He can bring heat when he wants to (Nas, Game tracks,) but there's nothing wrong with this song.  It's mindless fun, and it's not as irritating as "My Humps."  And there's definitely nothing wrong with this video.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Westcoastfanatic on August 10, 2007, 10:15:28 AM
Lol, he already sold out years ago when he said "fuck the real hiphop fans, lets make sum corny music that millions of 12 year old girls all over the world will like".
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Konvict on August 10, 2007, 10:20:56 AM
he should've did more gangsta shit and stayed on ruthless records  8)
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Styles1 on August 10, 2007, 10:34:21 AM
i like the fact that he does whatever he feels like doing, whether its making the hip hop is dead song for Nas or doing songs that get played on KIIS FM.

He has taken himself out of the box that many artists are stuck in .... or are afraid to take themselves out of.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: no1wammy on August 10, 2007, 10:57:17 AM
Quote from: Westcoastfanatic
Lol, he already sold out years ago when he said "fuck the real hiphop fans, lets make sum corny music that millions of 12 year old girls all over the world will like".

(I'm a kill myself for this statement)

Jokes: "Let's just hope the 12 year old girls who listen to his music come to their senses. We don't want another R. Kelly incident, now, would we?"

*shrugs*

Quote from: Konvict
he should've did more gangsta shit and stayed on ruthless records

1. Was he Will.I.Am back then, or did he go by a different alias?
2. Did he ever work with Slow Pain or any of the Chicano rappers while at Ruthless?
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: QuietTruth on August 10, 2007, 11:56:28 AM
Who ever considered this nigga HIP HOP to begin wit??

LMFAO.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: d-nice on August 10, 2007, 12:01:34 PM
I think if BEP would have started out their music that way I don't think it would turn off that many people to them. But their 1st 2 albums were dope as fuck, they were like a westcoast Tribe Called Quest to me back then lyrically and musically. That stuff is no were near the stuff they do now for the most part and for most that is why they are considered Sellouts. But on the production tip, Will ain't no joke on them boards.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Elano on August 12, 2007, 04:15:43 AM
And there's definitely nothing wrong with this video.

This thread is not about the video  ::)
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Iliveinthefuture on August 12, 2007, 06:56:10 AM
he should've did more gangsta shit and stayed on ruthless records  8)

yeah right LOL  8)

Quote from: QuietTruth

Who ever considered this nigga HIP HOP to begin wit??
LMFAO

he's more hip hop than all your favorite teen rappers will ever be expecially that clown in your signature  8)
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: QuietTruth on August 12, 2007, 08:42:09 AM
^ I know, right. ::)
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on August 12, 2007, 12:58:55 PM
I think if BEP would have started out their music that way I don't think it would turn off that many people to them. But their 1st 2 albums were dope as fuck, they were like a westcoast Tribe Called Quest to me back then lyrically and musically. That stuff is no were near the stuff they do now for the most part and for most that is why they are considered Sellouts. But on the production tip, Will ain't no joke on them boards.
this is true......hell, primo produced one of their dopest songs........so yes, they were considered underground LA hip hop for the majority of the late 90's and repped LA well, heck, industry insider magazine(remember that? i gues only if you lived in LA and werent 8 at the time) named them LA hip hop group of the year back around 01'........and yes, they are now as pop as it gets, but give him credit for still making the occasional good hip hop song
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Westcoastfanatic on August 12, 2007, 01:04:53 PM
Who's idea was it to put Fergie in the group, Will i am's?
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: d-nice on August 12, 2007, 01:08:45 PM
I think if BEP would have started out their music that way I don't think it would turn off that many people to them. But their 1st 2 albums were dope as fuck, they were like a westcoast Tribe Called Quest to me back then lyrically and musically. That stuff is no were near the stuff they do now for the most part and for most that is why they are considered Sellouts. But on the production tip, Will ain't no joke on them boards.
this is true......hell, primo produced one of their dopest songs........so yes, they were considered underground LA hip hop for the majority of the late 90's and repped LA well, heck, industry insider magazine(remember that? i gues only if you lived in LA and werent 8 at the time) named them LA hip hop group of the year back around 01'........and yes, they are now as pop as it gets, but give him credit for still making the occasional good hip hop song

I am bumping Behind The Front right now. Dope album.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Styles1 on August 12, 2007, 01:47:04 PM
Some of those BEP "pop" songs contain parts of classic hip hop favorites... Sally That Girl by The Gucci Crew... I Wonder If I Take You Home by Lisa Lisa & The Cult Jam... just to name some...
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: d-nice on August 12, 2007, 02:02:10 PM
Some of those BEP "pop" songs contain parts of classic hip hop favorites... Sally That Girl by The Gucci Crew... I Wonder If I Take You Home by Lisa Lisa & The Cult Jam... just to name some...

Yeah Will picks some ill samples. I still from time to time bump they new stuff. They will have a couple tracks that are str8 hip hop but most of they stuff now is pop.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Al Bundy on August 12, 2007, 02:04:08 PM
i like the fact that he does whatever he feels like doing, whether its making the hip hop is dead song for Nas or doing songs that get played on KIIS FM.

He has taken himself out of the box that many artists are stuck in .... or are afraid to take themselves out of.

Exactly! Quit your bitching you "hip-hop heads"
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Juronimo on August 12, 2007, 03:39:18 PM
I think if BEP would have started out their music that way I don't think it would turn off that many people to them. But their 1st 2 albums were dope as fuck, they were like a westcoast Tribe Called Quest to me back then lyrically and musically. That stuff is no were near the stuff they do now for the most part and for most that is why they are considered Sellouts. But on the production tip, Will ain't no joke on them boards.
this is true......hell, primo produced one of their dopest songs........so yes, they were considered underground LA hip hop for the majority of the late 90's and repped LA well, heck, industry insider magazine(remember that? i gues only if you lived in LA and werent 8 at the time) named them LA hip hop group of the year back around 01'........and yes, they are now as pop as it gets, but give him credit for still making the occasional good hip hop song

Yeah man, I remember when them dudes were barely coming out and they did a power 106 show at Florentine Gardens. Those cats were handing out free tapes to anyone. They came up to my car and gave me a bunch of free shit.

They did their thing and were succesful. I'm not feeling their music much anymore but their first album was dope as fuck and I respect the hard work they put in, especially when I recall seeing them cats handing out free tapes in the Florentine Gardens parking lot back in '97.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on August 13, 2007, 12:12:30 AM
Black Eyed Peas used to be so dope back then, Da Joint , was my jam 10 years ago, I would say that its a shame and that they be selling out, but they still make some nice cut, they just dont release them as singles, and its all good anyway Will-I-am is a great and talented producer, his new single is not that hot but I'll support and get his shit
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: DJSpin on August 13, 2007, 11:01:30 AM
the video is nice with all those chicks but it's fuckin POP.
Am I the only person who have never considered Peas or Will.I.AM as hip-hop/West Coast representant?

its difficult to say that, considering they was banging with eazy back in the early nineties on ruthless...  u cant get any more west than that!
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Elano on August 14, 2007, 12:17:45 AM
Pitchfork: There is this sense of simplicity about that music that's proven impossible to emulate. With all the information that's out there right now, is it harder for young writers to write with that kind of primitivism?

Iggy Pop: It's harder to have the will because it's so much easier to plug in a computer and find a old hook from surf music or something. That was the last one to blow my mind, was a hook from an old guitar instrumental called "Apache" or "Pipeline" and it used in this horrible quasi-rap song by the Black Eyed Peas. I'm hearing this horrible rapping over this a beautiful piece of music. It's kind of like those little juice drinks that you get in the 7-Eleven that say, "contains 10% real juice." Their music is a mountain of crap. Or a Frankenstein's monster, you know? He gets up, but he's jerky when he walks and his feet thud and he has all these sutures. That's really easier to do, and it's easier to collect on.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: F Major on August 14, 2007, 02:32:26 PM
most folks commenting negatively toward Will never heard his BBE Release :

http://bbemusic.com/data.pl?release=BBEBGCD003

Dude is hiphop, but you gotta understand this is this dudes career, nobody comes and shits on your for trying to do your job! Nobody calls you a sell out for trying to make more money doing a job that you probably hate doing. Listen to that BBE release if you get a chance, the dude is real hip hop and has plenty of respect for the culture, respect the mans career choice.The man is making good money doing a job that he loves to do, use your energy in better ways than to try to take him down
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: me>you on August 14, 2007, 02:42:23 PM
i have no respect for anybody who spells out every word in their music
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: therealtran on August 14, 2007, 02:54:39 PM
i'm feeling this shit.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Elano on August 15, 2007, 04:58:07 AM
most folks commenting negatively toward Will never heard his BBE Release :

http://bbemusic.com/data.pl?release=BBEBGCD003



And you,GENIUS,have you read this whole thread ?
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: F Major on August 15, 2007, 06:01:36 AM
I read your rant about will, and read folks replies...as I said, this is his career, not yours, stop downing the man cause YOU think he is a sell out, he has already hustled and worked hard in the underground, the man has already proven to be a credible hiphop head, he is now focused on the money part of this music, but here you are making a negative thread about someone because YOU think he aint doing the right thing with his power or position. Wake up man for real, the nigga aint stealing, killing, promoting violence, racism, sexism, or anything like it, he just making pop shit, shit that you have the choice to not listen to if you choose, but to come in here slandering someone for gettin his bread legally and ethically is senseless.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Turf Hitta on August 15, 2007, 07:31:23 PM
He's a sellout because you don't like his music? I don't think you know what a sellout is. Maybe he likes pop music and wanted to make a pop record, how is that selling out?
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Lunatic on August 15, 2007, 07:32:05 PM
i can't believe this thread has this many replies :D
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Styles1 on August 15, 2007, 07:34:45 PM
i was thinking the same thing dude
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Lunatic on August 15, 2007, 07:37:02 PM
i was thinking the same thing dude

LOL

props styles 8)
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Fatdodger on August 15, 2007, 07:47:48 PM
Fuck Gay i am
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: d-nice on August 15, 2007, 07:52:25 PM
Well you have some that remember the Joints & Jam Will and BEP and the Will from Ruthless. Then you have the people that remember the pop icons BEP is today. So it ain't like Will has always done the stuff he is doing now.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Styles1 on August 15, 2007, 08:13:29 PM
i don't have a problem with what he is doing... we need someone out there in the spotlight like that... when NWA was doing it we had our artists like Young MC that were doing lighter stuff in the mainstream... it was a 2 way attack..
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: d-nice on August 15, 2007, 08:28:47 PM
i don't have a problem with what he is doing... we need someone out there in the spotlight like that... when NWA was doing it we had our artists like Young MC that were doing lighter stuff in the mainstream... it was a 2 way attack..

Yeah not many mcs or producers can say they have worked with the likes or Game, Snoop, Too Short, Talib, Bone, etc
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: me>you on August 15, 2007, 08:45:03 PM
Fuck Gay i am
that was a pretty gay statement
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Lunatic on August 15, 2007, 08:45:53 PM
Fuck Gay i am
that was a pretty gay statement


LOL
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Eddie G. on August 15, 2007, 09:18:10 PM
Fuck Gay i am
that was a pretty gay statement

I thought it was hilarious.  I also saw "Fag I Am" in another thread a while back, and that was great too.
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: Fatdodger on August 16, 2007, 08:44:10 AM
I really didnt know what to call him so i called him that but just saying will i am is a insult
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: LatinoThugPassion on August 16, 2007, 09:46:30 AM
All of you hating need to suck a dick cause atleaste hes not snapping his finger and doing gay ass children songs
like 90% of the damn south is. Atleaste he acctually rhymes and flows good. whats wrong with a song about girls?
ya'll gay or somthing? do ya'll not dance . Got damn atleaste hes making a dance song that isnt some dumb ass coon blackface shit god
Title: Re: Will.i.am is officially SELLOUT
Post by: d-nice on August 16, 2007, 10:49:26 AM
All of you hating need to suck a dick cause atleaste hes not snapping his finger and doing gay ass children songs
like 90% of the damn south is. Atleaste he acctually rhymes and flows good. whats wrong with a song about girls?
ya'll gay or somthing? do ya'll not dance . Got damn atleaste hes making a dance song that isnt some dumb ass coon blackface shit god

 ??? UMMM, OK.

The majority of people do not like Will I Am because of the music he used to make is not the same. BEP was dope as fuck when they first came out. The BEP now is something completely different that alot of people here cannot vibe to. The work he has done on other artists stuff is cool though. Mix some of that in with his solo and BEP stuff and we would be on to something. LOL on using coon. I have not heard that word in ages.