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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: herpes on December 11, 2007, 07:02:58 PM
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When did swagger become more important then actual lyrics, flow, content, mic presence, word play, pretty much everything that makes a dope emcee. When did it become the only thing to matter. The best emcees of all time never had to brag about swagger. They just had it and you thought that just from the way they tore up a mic. From the likes of Rakim, Slick Rick, Big, Big L, Nas, Jay, Pac, Big Daddy Kane, Pun, Ghostface, Snoop and I hate Snoop. Now those cats had swag just based solely on how they spit on the mic. Now a days you kids are more concerned with how a rapper dresses and walks. And what he says in a interview and you consider that swagger. In actuality those are some of the traits women look for when trying to meet a guy.
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^^^good point. now-a-days, you can be wack, but ur swag makes you good? thats not how it should be ???
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swagger does play a part but it isn't everything. it needs to be at a equal level
like take it this way, you can rap your ass off and be great but if you don't have swagger you're going to be boring and not stand out.
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swagger does play a part but it isn't everything. it needs to be at a equal level
like take it this way, you can rap your ass off and be great but if you don't have swagger you're going to be boring and not stand out.
yea, i guess it can be like that...but lik today, people who are WACK, just rap and get recognition based on swag. which is rele homo.
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swagger does play a part but it isn't everything. it needs to be at a equal level
like take it this way, you can rap your ass off and be great but if you don't have swagger you're going to be boring and not stand out.
The thing is though just a few years ago majority of so called swagger was determined by skill. And no one really discussed it like they do now. It was just a given. And when discussing the best in the game it was never mentioned in the same light as basic skills. When you discussing the best in the game you would give your reason that were mostly about skill and once in a while you would say something like and he carries himself in a way. Now a days its he's ight but yoooooooooo he's got crazy swag. AWWWWWWWW MAN HIS SWAG IS CRAZY.
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swagger does play a part but it isn't everything. it needs to be at a equal level
like take it this way, you can rap your ass off and be great but if you don't have swagger you're going to be boring and not stand out.
The thing is though just a few years ago majority of so called swagger was determined by skill. And no one really discussed it like they do now. It was just a given. And when discussing the best in the game it was never mentioned in the same light as basic skills. When you discussing the best in the game you would give your reason that were mostly about skill and once in a while you would say something like and he carries himself in a way. Now a days its he's ight but yoooooooooo he's got crazy swag. AWWWWWWWW MAN HIS SWAG IS CRAZY.
Yeah I feel you (no homo). Some dudes really do suck on the mic but their swag carries them thru a track like you don't really give a shit that the lyrics aren't all there but the song is still coo
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cam got both
weezy got both
styles got both
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swagger does play a part but it isn't everything. it needs to be at a equal level
like take it this way, you can rap your ass off and be great but if you don't have swagger you're going to be boring and not stand out.
The thing is though just a few years ago majority of so called swagger was determined by skill. And no one really discussed it like they do now. It was just a given. And when discussing the best in the game it was never mentioned in the same light as basic skills. When you discussing the best in the game you would give your reason that were mostly about skill and once in a while you would say something like and he carries himself in a way. Now a days its he's ight but yoooooooooo he's got crazy swag. AWWWWWWWW MAN HIS SWAG IS CRAZY.
Yeah I feel you (no homo). Some dudes really do suck on the mic but their swag carries them thru a track like you don't really give a shit that the lyrics aren't all there but the song is still coo
and thats sad, shows you how fuck this generation is that image is more important then substance.
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cam got both
weezy got both
styles got both
got both what
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cam got both
weezy got both
styles got both
got both what
swag. rapping ability
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cam got both
weezy got both
styles got both
got both what
swag. rapping ability
Too be honest I would never consider Styles to have swag. Well not that homo swag so many of you new cats worship. And Weezy isn't anything to great on the mic. He is alright but he gets by solely on that homo swag you guys worship. Same pretty much goes for cam now a days.
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cam got both
weezy got both
styles got both
got both what
swag. rapping ability
Too be honest I would never consider Styles to have swag. Well not that homo swag so many of you new cats worship. And Weezy isn't anything to great on the mic. He is alright but he gets by solely on that homo swag you guys worship. Same pretty much goes for cam now a days.
na i kno what he means...styles got this lik "hardest mutha fucka in the game" kinda thing goin on for him...AND speakin of weezy on the mic, anything new? last couple appearances on record, dude aint impress me at all.
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cam got both
weezy got both
styles got both
got both what
swag. rapping ability
every bay rapper has both... you have to be able to spit, and have style... if you dont have both, your boring and you look like more of a follower then a leader.
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cam got both
weezy got both
styles got both
got both what
swag. rapping ability
every bay rapper has both... you have to be able to spit, and have style... if you dont have both, your boring and you look like more of a follower then a leader.
bay area rappers... you dont mean that hyphy trash do you ?
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in my book, swag isnt dressing like a fruitcup and talkin about how dope you are. it might not make sense to some of you, but i was talkin to bundy about it a little while ago: if you attack the mic, and have some energy and a sense of confidence in your delivery, then youve got swag, and thats engaging and interesting to listen to. unless im feeling really focused, ill take a lyrically good but not amazing rapper who has swag over some monotonous, lycially crazy backpack rapper who just raps about how his mindstate is illogical-philosophical-ostical. ya dig? and to anyone who says 'swagger' is a new thing in today's mainstream that fucks up the music, its been around since rap music was invented. afrika bambaataa had swag out the fuckin roof. ll cool j has always had swag. melle mel had swag. peace
EDIT: the problem is, swagger is interpretable to so many meanings..
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If you don't have swag, I don't wanna hear what you got to say.
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If you don't have swag, I don't wanna hear what you got to say.
pappose
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cam got both
weezy got both
styles got both
got both what
swag. rapping ability
every bay rapper has both... you have to be able to spit, and have style... if you dont have both, your boring and you look like more of a follower then a leader.
bay area rappers... you dont mean that hyphy trash do you ?
nah i mean yukmouth, spice 1, e40, keak, jacka, husulah, mac dre and everybody
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If you don't have swag, I don't wanna hear what you got to say.
pappose
Excellent example.
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If you don't have swag, I don't wanna hear what you got to say.
Whats swag to you then ?
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If you don't have swag, I don't wanna hear what you got to say.
pappose
Excellent example.
if you dont wanna hear pap, theres summin wrong :P
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If you don't have swag, I don't wanna hear what you got to say.
Whats swag to you then ?
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that word gets thrown around too much these days
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Every decision I make is based on swag.
I weigh the possible outcomes and how it will aid me. As long as my swag is "100 and climbin" I'm winnin.
same with the rap game.
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A dude shouldn't be lookin to see if another guy has swagger.
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in my book, swag isnt dressing like a fruitcup and talkin about how dope you are. it might not make sense to some of you, but i was talkin to bundy about it a little while ago: if you attack the mic, and have some energy and a sense of confidence in your delivery, then youve got swag, and thats engaging and interesting to listen to. unless im feeling really focused, ill take a lyrically good but not amazing rapper who has swag over some monotonous, lycially crazy backpack rapper who just raps about how his mindstate is illogical-philosophical-ostical. ya dig? and to anyone who says 'swagger' is a new thing in today's mainstream that fucks up the music, its been around since rap music was invented. afrika bambaataa had swag out the fuckin roof. ll cool j has always had swag. melle mel had swag. peace
EDIT: the problem is, swagger is interpretable to so many meanings..
yeah you basically broke down what I wanted to say
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the prob is people think they can be slick rick or big daddy kane, but they are very wrong and fall short. Their fault is that they can not elevate themselves as artists, and cannot grow and stretch the possibilities of rap, (what slick and kane did), thus we are hearing all these corny wana be swagger rappers, who can't find a niche in anything but copying and hoping they get a catchy hook to make them money
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If you don't have swag, I don't wanna hear what you got to say.
pappose
Yup, Papoose is a good example of a rapper who has no swag at all.
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cam got both
weezy got both
styles got both
got both what
swag. rapping ability
every bay rapper has both... you have to be able to spit, and have style... if you dont have both, your boring and you look like more of a follower then a leader.
bay area rappers... you dont mean that hyphy trash do you ?
He's talkin about quality rappers like Ya Boy
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When did swagger become more important then actual lyrics, flow, content, mic presence, word play, pretty much everything that makes a dope emcee. When did it become the only thing to matter. The best emcees of all time never had to brag about swagger. They just had it and you thought that just from the way they tore up a mic. From the likes of Rakim, Slick Rick, Big, Big L, Nas, Jay, Pac, Big Daddy Kane, Pun, Ghostface, Snoop and I hate Snoop. Now those cats had swag just based solely on how they spit on the mic. Now a days you kids are more concerned with how a rapper dresses and walks. And what he says in a interview and you consider that swagger. In actuality those are some of the traits women look for when trying to meet a guy.
is it me or does this guy sound like a hater, anything from 00 to now he hates, chec his posts
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If you don't have swag, I don't wanna hear what you got to say.
LOL. So True
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