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Title: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 25, 2007, 08:16:54 PM
Real shit.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AsI57QBgRQhM4IxzfdPvRD6QvLYF?gid=2007122513
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Lunatic on December 25, 2007, 08:37:55 PM
LOL i usually side with u Nik, but come on. Perhaps in the future, but 100% not at this moment.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 25, 2007, 09:51:45 PM
he's got upside, but Amare's got a fwe years experience on him
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: thisoneguy360 on December 25, 2007, 10:01:12 PM
Amare's got the experience but Bynum definitely shat all over him tonight
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 25, 2007, 10:05:18 PM
was bynum the one who came out at 18 and was talking shit to Shaq and Shaq was like "i dont speak to people without a college degree" or something?
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Sparegeez on December 25, 2007, 10:39:33 PM
I think NIK got a little bit too excited after that win. And is it just me or is Bynum only making those points of those great passes that put him right in front of the rim in which no one can defend? I mean just look at it, he's second in the league in dunks. I think he's getting too much credit and the Laker guards aren't getting the credit they deserve. Regardless Bynum is playing like a beast right now, but I haven't seen him dominate on the post yet.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Antonio_ on December 26, 2007, 01:36:07 AM
NO FUCKING DOUBT.

Amare is a pretty good prospect, he can run, he can score 30 points any given night, and he's exciting to see cause you know, he's explosive on the floor and he can make great dunks too. But that's about it. If you know shit about basketball (for real), you know a real coach doesn't give a fuck about those aspects. Amare can't defend one on one against nobody (Bosh scored 42 points the match before this one, and Bynum scored career-high 28 yesterday), he doesn't do pick-n-rolls well, he doesn't even try to defend them when the opponent team plays that way, and doesn't have a big presence under the basket (Bynum destroyed him stealing rebounds over his head all night). Shit i'm the one who was saying last year Kurt Thomas was more important for the Suns than Amare, just like Zo was def more important for the Heat than Shaq. It's about their defence. Kurt defence one-on-one against Duncan was been amazing, last year. Then he went to the bench, Amare stepped in, and Duncan abused him making 10 points in 5 mins. What's the point having a big guy who can run if he gets raped on the defensive end by almost every decent big man in the NBA? It's pointless. Shit D'Antoni had to use Skinner (i mean Skinner) for almost 23 minutes yesterday, cause Bynum was raping Amare and Skinner was the only one who was trying to defend. Skinner. LOL. C'mon, watch some games and open your mind. Who gives a fuck if he can jump and dunk? Yesterday he was been Bynum's AND SKINNER'S bitch.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Antonio_ on December 26, 2007, 01:39:37 AM
I think NIK got a little bit too excited after that win. And is it just me or is Bynum only making those points of those great passes that put him right in front of the rim in which no one can defend? I mean just look at it, he's second in the league in dunks. I think he's getting too much credit and the Laker guards aren't getting the credit they deserve. Regardless Bynum is playing like a beast right now, but I haven't seen him dominate on the post yet.

It's funny cause the one who's first in that list (by far. Like 120 dunks against 50 or something) is Howard. And everybody is on his dick. And Bynum can create a shot better than Howard. A dunk means 2 points, man. Just like a baby-hook, or a jumper. If it's in, it's 2 points. And he made 28 points yesterday, followin another career-high performance. The kid is the 4th younger player in the league and he's already DOMINANT. He def has potential to be as good (if not better than) as Howard, and that makes him ahead of Amare in any list you make.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Sparegeez on December 26, 2007, 01:40:41 AM
NO FUCKING DOUBT.

You guys don't understand shit about basketball, damn. Amare is a pretty good prospect, he can run, he can score 30 points any given night, and he's exciting to see cause you know, he's explosive on the floor and he can make great dunks too. But that's about it. If you know shit about basketball (for real), you know a real coach doesn't give a fuck about those aspects. Amare can't defend one on one against nobody (Bosh scored 42 points the match before this one, and Bynum scored career-high 28 yesterday), he doesn't do pick-n-rolls well, he doesn't even try to defend them when the opponent team plays that way, and doesn't have a big presence under the basket (Bynum destroyed him stealing rebounds over his head all night). Shit i'm the one who was saying last year Kurt Thomas was more important for the Suns than Amare, just like Zo was def more important for the Heat than Shaq. It's about their defence. Kurt defence one-on-one against Duncan was been amazing, last year. Then he went to the bench, Amare stepped in, and Duncan abused him making 10 points in 5 mins. What's the point having a big guy who can run if he gets raped on the defensive end by almost every decent big man in the NBA? It's pointless. Shit D'Antoni had to use Skinner (i mean Skinner) for almost 23 minutes yesterday, cause Bynum was raping Amare and Skinner was the only one who was trying to defend. Skinner. LOL. C'mon, watch some games and open your mind. Who gives a fuck if he can jump and dunk? Yesterday he was been Bynum's AND SKINNER'S bitch.

Whoa Whoa Whoa! What did we say that made you write an essay no-one is gonna read? I read the first sentence and then right away clicked on the "quote" button.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Sparegeez on December 26, 2007, 01:47:32 AM
I think NIK got a little bit too excited after that win. And is it just me or is Bynum only making those points of those great passes that put him right in front of the rim in which no one can defend? I mean just look at it, he's second in the league in dunks. I think he's getting too much credit and the Laker guards aren't getting the credit they deserve. Regardless Bynum is playing like a beast right now, but I haven't seen him dominate on the post yet.

It's funny cause the one who's first in that list (by far. Like 120 dunks against 50 or something) is Howard. And everybody is on his dick. And Bynum can create a shot better than Howard. A dunk means 2 points, man. Just like a baby-hook, or a jumper. If it's in, it's 2 points. And he made 28 points yesterday, followin another career-high performance. The kid is the 4th younger player in the league and he's already DOMINANT. He def has potential to be as good (if not better than) as Howard, and that makes him ahead of Amare in any list you make.

As you said how can he be dominant if his only good games are against shitty defenders like Stoudimire? And don't give me that bullshit on how Bynum can create a better shot than Howard. Every time Bynum was on the post, I seen him turnover the ball or just flat out miss it. He's becoming a good player. But don't put him on Howard's level, well at least not yet.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Antonio_ on December 26, 2007, 01:55:44 AM
was bynum the one who came out at 18 and was talking shit to Shaq and Shaq was like "i dont speak to people without a college degree" or something?

Shaq left college in 1992, but still he graduated in 2000. Gotta give props to him. But we're talking about basketball, here. And half of the Heat's roster doesn't have a degree anyway.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: wcsoldier on December 26, 2007, 01:56:49 AM
I mean just look at it, he's second in the league in dunks. I think he's getting too much credit and the Laker guards aren't getting the credit they deserve. Regardless Bynum is playing like a beast right now, but I haven't seen him dominate on the post yet.


When Shaq was the best player in the NBA he had too much credit then ? and the thing which is even more hilarious is that Amare got the majority of his points from Nash dimes .. I agree Bynum isn't dominating on the post and why ?

1. We BARELY give him the damn ball down low
2. He needs to work on the quickness of his moves but you can see the foot work and the soft touch is here

This kid is just gonna be a beast .. y'all have to admit it ... even BSPN said the Lakers are becoming serious so it has to be true  8)
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Antonio_ on December 26, 2007, 01:58:51 AM
I think NIK got a little bit too excited after that win. And is it just me or is Bynum only making those points of those great passes that put him right in front of the rim in which no one can defend? I mean just look at it, he's second in the league in dunks. I think he's getting too much credit and the Laker guards aren't getting the credit they deserve. Regardless Bynum is playing like a beast right now, but I haven't seen him dominate on the post yet.

It's funny cause the one who's first in that list (by far. Like 120 dunks against 50 or something) is Howard. And everybody is on his dick. And Bynum can create a shot better than Howard. A dunk means 2 points, man. Just like a baby-hook, or a jumper. If it's in, it's 2 points. And he made 28 points yesterday, followin another career-high performance. The kid is the 4th younger player in the league and he's already DOMINANT. He def has potential to be as good (if not better than) as Howard, and that makes him ahead of Amare in any list you make.

As you said how can he be dominant if his only good games are against shitty defenders like Stoudimire? And don't give me that bullshit on how Bynum can create a better shot than Howard. Every time Bynum was on the post, I seen him turnover the ball or just flat out miss it. He's becoming a good player. But don't put him on Howard's level, well at least not yet.

I'm not putting him on Howard's level yet, man.

Right now Howard >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bynum, and everybody (including NIK) knows it.

I'm asking you: do you remember Howard 2 years ago? He was a rebounding machine, but he couldn't create a shot for shit. He made all his poinst on offensive rebounds and dunks. If you gave him the ball and he was with the back against the basket, he couldn't create a shot and he wasn't even a good assistman. Bynum now looks already a little bit better than Howard at creating his own shot. And Kareem (i repeat: Kareem) is teaching him a couple of moves he's already starting to use ingame. I agree, he didn't show them against the Suns, but have you seen the Suns triple-teaming him when he lost the ball? They had 3 guys on him, at one point of the game. Obviously he doesn't have the knowledge of the game yet to pass the ball or to make an Olajuwon move on them, scoring with an easy lay-up. He made some turnovers cause he wanted to go high and dunk even if he was double-teamed. But i think he's already a little bit ahead of Howard (i mean the 2 years ago Howard) and he has potential to be as good as him (if not better). Potential.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Sparegeez on December 26, 2007, 02:31:56 AM
I think NIK got a little bit too excited after that win. And is it just me or is Bynum only making those points of those great passes that put him right in front of the rim in which no one can defend? I mean just look at it, he's second in the league in dunks. I think he's getting too much credit and the Laker guards aren't getting the credit they deserve. Regardless Bynum is playing like a beast right now, but I haven't seen him dominate on the post yet.

It's funny cause the one who's first in that list (by far. Like 120 dunks against 50 or something) is Howard. And everybody is on his dick. And Bynum can create a shot better than Howard. A dunk means 2 points, man. Just like a baby-hook, or a jumper. If it's in, it's 2 points. And he made 28 points yesterday, followin another career-high performance. The kid is the 4th younger player in the league and he's already DOMINANT. He def has potential to be as good (if not better than) as Howard, and that makes him ahead of Amare in any list you make.

As you said how can he be dominant if his only good games are against shitty defenders like Stoudimire? And don't give me that bullshit on how Bynum can create a better shot than Howard. Every time Bynum was on the post, I seen him turnover the ball or just flat out miss it. He's becoming a good player. But don't put him on Howard's level, well at least not yet.

I'm not putting him on Howard's level yet, man.

Right now Howard >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bynum, and everybody (including NIK) knows it.

I'm asking you: do you remember Howard 2 years ago? He was a rebounding machine, but he couldn't create a shot for shit. He made all his poinst on offensive rebounds and dunks. If you gave him the ball and he was with the back against the basket, he couldn't create a shot and he wasn't even a good assistman. Bynum now looks already a little bit better than Howard at creating his own shot. And Kareem (i repeat: Kareem) is teaching him a couple of moves he's already starting to use ingame. I agree, he didn't show them against the Suns, but have you seen the Suns triple-teaming him when he lost the ball? They had 3 guys on him, at one point of the game. Obviously he doesn't have the knowledge of the game yet to pass the ball or to make an Olajuwon move on them, scoring with an easy lay-up. He made some turnovers cause he wanted to go high and dunk even if he was double-teamed. But i think he's already a little bit ahead of Howard (i mean the 2 years ago Howard) and he has potential to be as good as him (if not better). Potential.

Yeah he has the potential to be better than Howard, but you were making it sound that he's already better equipped than Howard. Thanks for the clarification.

So in those means, Lebron is also set to be better than Kobe right? :laugh:
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Antonio_ on December 26, 2007, 02:36:30 AM
I think NIK got a little bit too excited after that win. And is it just me or is Bynum only making those points of those great passes that put him right in front of the rim in which no one can defend? I mean just look at it, he's second in the league in dunks. I think he's getting too much credit and the Laker guards aren't getting the credit they deserve. Regardless Bynum is playing like a beast right now, but I haven't seen him dominate on the post yet.

It's funny cause the one who's first in that list (by far. Like 120 dunks against 50 or something) is Howard. And everybody is on his dick. And Bynum can create a shot better than Howard. A dunk means 2 points, man. Just like a baby-hook, or a jumper. If it's in, it's 2 points. And he made 28 points yesterday, followin another career-high performance. The kid is the 4th younger player in the league and he's already DOMINANT. He def has potential to be as good (if not better than) as Howard, and that makes him ahead of Amare in any list you make.

As you said how can he be dominant if his only good games are against shitty defenders like Stoudimire? And don't give me that bullshit on how Bynum can create a better shot than Howard. Every time Bynum was on the post, I seen him turnover the ball or just flat out miss it. He's becoming a good player. But don't put him on Howard's level, well at least not yet.

I'm not putting him on Howard's level yet, man.

Right now Howard >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bynum, and everybody (including NIK) knows it.

I'm asking you: do you remember Howard 2 years ago? He was a rebounding machine, but he couldn't create a shot for shit. He made all his poinst on offensive rebounds and dunks. If you gave him the ball and he was with the back against the basket, he couldn't create a shot and he wasn't even a good assistman. Bynum now looks already a little bit better than Howard at creating his own shot. And Kareem (i repeat: Kareem) is teaching him a couple of moves he's already starting to use ingame. I agree, he didn't show them against the Suns, but have you seen the Suns triple-teaming him when he lost the ball? They had 3 guys on him, at one point of the game. Obviously he doesn't have the knowledge of the game yet to pass the ball or to make an Olajuwon move on them, scoring with an easy lay-up. He made some turnovers cause he wanted to go high and dunk even if he was double-teamed. But i think he's already a little bit ahead of Howard (i mean the 2 years ago Howard) and he has potential to be as good as him (if not better). Potential.

Yeah he has the potential to be better than Howard, but you were making it sound that he's already better equipped than Howard. Thanks for the clarification.

So in those means, Lebron is also set to be better than Kobe right? :laugh:

It's possible.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: wcsoldier on December 26, 2007, 02:41:36 AM
It's amazing how Lakers fans are supposed to dickride Kobe all day but y'all others fans keep bringing his name in non related threads .. I make a thread about it a while ago .. guess it was useless  :-X
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: 7even on December 26, 2007, 05:07:59 AM
It is just an assumption, but I think Bynum will be schooled in this years playoffs by Amare... niggas coastin
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: thisoneguy360 on December 26, 2007, 07:57:03 AM
It is just an assumption, but I think Bynum will be schooled in this years playoffs by Amare... niggas coastin

We'll see
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 26, 2007, 09:39:26 AM
was bynum the one who came out at 18 and was talking shit to Shaq and Shaq was like "i dont speak to people without a college degree" or something?

Shaq left college in 1992, but still he graduated in 2000. Gotta give props to him. But we're talking about basketball, here. And half of the Heat's roster doesn't have a degree anyway.

by Shaqs own words he must not talk to LEbron either lol
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Antonio_ on December 26, 2007, 10:07:11 AM
was bynum the one who came out at 18 and was talking shit to Shaq and Shaq was like "i dont speak to people without a college degree" or something?

Shaq left college in 1992, but still he graduated in 2000. Gotta give props to him. But we're talking about basketball, here. And half of the Heat's roster doesn't have a degree anyway.

by Shaqs own words he must not talk to LEbron either lol 3/4 of the Miami Heat roster.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 26, 2007, 10:21:20 AM
It is just an assumption, but I think Bynum will be schooled in this years playoffs by Amare... niggas coastin

We'll see

The key to beating Phoenix is making them play defense. In the 06 playoffs Nash just left Smush Parker wide open and he still missed enough shots to lose all confidence and not take any more shots. Then in the 07 playoffs Stoudemire was back and obviously he's not gonna have to play defense on Butterfinger Brown. If we all stay healthy it's gonna be a different story this year. You have to guard Bynum now (Stoudemire, Skinner), you have to guard Fisher (Nash, Barbosa), obviously you have to guard Kobe (Bell, Marion). And we have Ariza and Farmar! We can be a real problem this year.

Unfortunately the Suns still scare me so I hope we don't match up with them in the first round. Which sucks cuz right now we have the 5th seed and they have the 4th!
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 26, 2007, 11:09:23 AM
I think NIK got a little bit too excited after that win. And is it just me or is Bynum only making those points of those great passes that put him right in front of the rim in which no one can defend? I mean just look at it, he's second in the league in dunks. I think he's getting too much credit and the Laker guards aren't getting the credit they deserve. Regardless Bynum is playing like a beast right now, but I haven't seen him dominate on the post yet.

It's funny cause the one who's first in that list (by far. Like 120 dunks against 50 or something) is Howard. And everybody is on his dick. And Bynum can create a shot better than Howard. A dunk means 2 points, man. Just like a baby-hook, or a jumper. If it's in, it's 2 points. And he made 28 points yesterday, followin another career-high performance. The kid is the 4th younger player in the league and he's already DOMINANT. He def has potential to be as good (if not better than) as Howard, and that makes him ahead of Amare in any list you make.

As you said how can he be dominant if his only good games are against shitty defenders like Stoudimire? And don't give me that bullshit on how Bynum can create a better shot than Howard. Every time Bynum was on the post, I seen him turnover the ball or just flat out miss it. He's becoming a good player. But don't put him on Howard's level, well at least not yet.


You must not watch Bynum play...He currently has a WAY more post moves than Dwight Howard.


http://www.youtube.com/v/rc2uGPIksxc

http://www.youtube.com/v/yCMBKzEHba0

http://www.youtube.com/v/yX0S79XnQ7w

http://www.youtube.com/v/7EbgST6Ppj0

http://www.youtube.com/v/pNaVeOHSdao

http://www.youtube.com/v/zlu2ocMVowU


and the one that started it all...

http://www.youtube.com/v/4_7whZmtcPA



The only thing that Amare has on Bynum is explosiveness...Which means jack shit, unless you play in the Suns offense. LMAO@First Team All-NBA. :grumpy:
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 26, 2007, 11:20:46 AM
Another thing...Lakers>>>>>>Suns. I can only HOPE we meet them in the first round. I've always said this. The Suns fucking suck. We were better than them the previous two years as well. We were just low on fire-power. Suns will lose again and D'Antoni will get fired. Nash will finally be exposed as a 2nd option on any other team. People will start to wonder how the hell Amare ever got an All-NBA 1st Team selection. Remember, I've been saying this shit for years. Fuck the Suns and their shitty amateur system...PeACe
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 26, 2007, 02:47:14 PM
Another thing...Lakers>>>>>>Suns. I can only HOPE we meet them in the first round. I've always said this. The Suns fucking suck. We were better than them the previous two years as well. We were just low on fire-power. Suns will lose again and D'Antoni will get fired. Nash will finally be exposed as a 2nd option on any other team. People will start to wonder how the hell Amare ever got an All-NBA 1st Team selection. Remember, I've been saying this shit for years. Fuck the Suns and their shitty amateur system...PeACe

LOL  "the suns fucking suck" and they serve the lakers 2 playoffs in a row like my big christmas roast yesterday.

you confuse me now_i_know.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 26, 2007, 02:48:20 PM
^^^
Another thing...Lakers>>>>>>Suns. I can only HOPE we meet them in the first round. I've always said this. The Suns fucking suck. We were better than them the previous two years as well. We were just low on fire-power. Suns will lose again and D'Antoni will get fired. Nash will finally be exposed as a 2nd option on any other team. People will start to wonder how the hell Amare ever got an All-NBA 1st Team selection. Remember, I've been saying this shit for years. Fuck the Suns and their shitty amateur system...PeACe

Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 26, 2007, 03:14:55 PM
the NBA is designed for the best team to win. 

if you were a maverick fan you acn say you were better than the warriors, but thats a totally different scenerio.

phoenix won the divison both years
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 26, 2007, 03:30:37 PM
I said this back when people still thought the Suns were amazing...They will never win a ring with their current system. Lakers will.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 26, 2007, 03:56:55 PM
Got damn Bynum is fuckin huge!

(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-12/34430062.jpg)

Dude doesn't look that cut on tv.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Sparegeez on December 26, 2007, 04:42:31 PM
Yeah Bynum had the face of Fat Albert when he came out of HS. He looks extremely built now. He must have spent hours in the gym.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 26, 2007, 10:24:59 PM
I said this back when people still thought the Suns were amazing...They will never win a ring with their current system. Lakers will.

as long as Tim Duncan is in the western conference LA has no business reaching the finals
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: SGV on December 26, 2007, 10:28:27 PM
Lakers
2006-07 42-40 .512
2005-06 45-37 .549
2004-05 34-48 .415
Overall 121-125 .492

Suns
2006-07 61-21 .744
2005-06 54-28 .659
2004-05 62-20 .756
Overall 177-69 .720

I don't know NIK, I'm looking at how well the Suns have done in the past 3 years in comparison to the Lakers and it's hard to sit here and think you're being rational when you say the Suns suck and that the Lakers are a better team. A better team should be well over .500. In the 2 times that the Lakers have made the Playoffs, the Suns bounced them each time in the 1st round. The Lakers were low on fire power, but they were still better? How so? How were they better? Their regular Season standings sure don't show it nor do they're performances in the Playoffs.

I'm curious as to how you came up with that conclusion. What shows you the Lakers were a better team the past 2 seasons than the Suns?
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 26, 2007, 10:43:01 PM
Lakers
2006-07 42-40 .512
2005-06 45-37 .549
2004-05 34-48 .415
Overall 121-125 .492

Suns
2006-07 61-21 .744
2005-06 54-28 .659
2004-05 62-20 .756
Overall 177-69 .720

I don't know NIK, I'm looking at how well the Suns have done in the past 3 years in comparison to the Lakers and it's hard to sit here and think you're being rational when you say the Suns suck and that the Lakers are a better team. A better team should be well over .500. In the 2 times that the Lakers have made the Playoffs, the Suns bounced them each time in the 1st round. The Lakers were low on fire power, but they were still better? How so? How were they better? Their regular Season standings sure don't show it nor do they're performances in the Playoffs.

I'm curious as to how you came up with that conclusion. What shows you the Lakers were a better team the past 2 seasons than the Suns?


BECAUE KOBE SCORED 83 POINTS THEY GOT TREVOR ARIZA THE DUNK MONSTER AND ANDREW BYNUM OWNS EVERYBODY!!!

lol i got no beef with you Now_i_know im only playing around.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 27, 2007, 10:23:21 AM
Lakers
2006-07 42-40 .512
2005-06 45-37 .549
2004-05 34-48 .415
Overall 121-125 .492

Suns
2006-07 61-21 .744
2005-06 54-28 .659
2004-05 62-20 .756
Overall 177-69 .720

I don't know NIK, I'm looking at how well the Suns have done in the past 3 years in comparison to the Lakers and it's hard to sit here and think you're being rational when you say the Suns suck and that the Lakers are a better team. A better team should be well over .500. In the 2 times that the Lakers have made the Playoffs, the Suns bounced them each time in the 1st round. The Lakers were low on fire power, but they were still better? How so? How were they better? Their regular Season standings sure don't show it nor do they're performances in the Playoffs.

I'm curious as to how you came up with that conclusion. What shows you the Lakers were a better team the past 2 seasons than the Suns?



Actually, the Lakers did outplay Phoenix in the playoffs, especially in '06 when we had the 3-1 lead. We just folded under pressure with Smush as our lead point guard. It was disastrous...Lakers were the better team, they just didn't have the confidence and fire-power that the Suns had... Just like Dallas was a better team than Golden State last year, but Golden State owned them. I don't really need to expose Phoenix. They've already exposed themselves by failing to meet their expectations of reaching the finals....the Suns will always be a regular season success/playoff failure if they don't change their ways...the triangle was built to win rings. It's real basketball. Now that we have all the fire-power we need and aren't playing with an injury plagued team, we'd sweep the Suns in the first round...PeACe
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: WC Iz Active on December 27, 2007, 11:42:29 AM
give it a rest NIK. 
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 27, 2007, 12:11:15 PM
give it a rest NIK. 



...says the Sports section biggest groupie.


Don't post if you have nothing to say. :-*
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: WC Iz Active on December 27, 2007, 12:37:28 PM
^well fuck man you are saying Bynum is better than Amare haha.  what do you expect me to do, you are the one that made the ridicolous statement.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 27, 2007, 12:48:41 PM
^well fuck man you are saying Bynum is better than Amare haha.  what do you expect me to do, you are the one that made the ridicolous statement.


Post up some arguments...As you can see, I did.


As of now, you just sound like a mad little kid who bases his opinion off of watching sports highlights to me. Yes, Amare is more popular and is recognized as a star. But what is it about his game that makes him better than Bynum? And if he's better, why was Bynum, a real center, able to bitch him around in the last meeting? Elaborate.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: WC Iz Active on December 27, 2007, 12:52:30 PM
I will be the first person to say that Amare is overated,  but fact is it is obsurd to compare Bynum to Amare right now. Amare is a proven all star NIK,  I know Bynum is extremely young so we have to wait but so far he hasnt done anything to warrant someone saying he is as good as bynum let alone D.Howard LOL.  I dont know if I ever see Bynum scoring a whole lot in his career, he is way to one dimensional on the offensive side.  NIK he has a bright future and has potential to maybe be a all star someday and thats a huge maybe.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 27, 2007, 01:01:13 PM
I will be the first person to say that Amare is overated,  but fact is it is obsurd to compare Bynum to Amare right now. Amare is a proven all star NIK,  I know Bynum is extremely young so we have to wait but so far he hasnt done anything to warrant someone saying he is as good as bynum let alone D.Howard LOL.  I dont know if I ever see Bynum scoring a whole lot in his career, he is way to one dimensional on the offensive side.  NIK he has a bright future and has potential to maybe be a all star someday and thats a huge maybe.


You obviously know NOTHING about Bynum. NOTHING. He will "maybe be a all-star someday"? Maybe? LOL! You followed up a Dwight Howard praise by saying Andrew Bynum is one dimensional on offense? COME ON, NOW. Bynum has post moves up the ass. Offensive rebounds, putbacks, jump hooks, spin-moves, face up game, alley-oops, pick and rolls...one dimensional? Come on, now. Dude's learning from the best. EXPLAIN HOW ITS ABSURD TO COMPARE THE TWO PLAYERS CURRENTLY IF BYNUM OWNED HIM? Bynum is clearly a better player. He has a true back-to-the-basket game and doesn't rely on power and athleticism to play basketball. He has an extremely soft touch for a guy his size...and that wing-span+length is something else. Bynum is pulling in more rebounds than Amare in less minutes. Amare might be a proven all-star, but Bynum has been playing like a superstar...You might admit that Amare is overrated, but now it's time for you to admit that you madly underrated Bynum as well...PeACe
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 27, 2007, 01:03:56 PM
BTW...here's what happened in their first head-to-head match-up this season:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Aliok_uZskTdqT_KsHmFulCkvLYF?gid=2007110221
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 27, 2007, 07:31:20 PM
I'd take Bynum over Amare right now.  Better knees, non-gimmick offense, younger, higher ceiling.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 01, 2008, 03:25:52 PM
I'd take Bynum over Amare right now.  Better knees, non-gimmick offense, younger, higher ceiling.

i'd say Amare has the higher ceiling if he doesnt get injured in the process
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: FLACO220 on January 04, 2008, 03:43:10 PM
he's got upside, but Amare's got a fwe years experience on him

Umm... you think so? Like we didn't know Amare came into the league before Bynum... come on now... i'm just fuckin witchu but you are right about the upside part tho... dude has a really bright future and i think the whole Kobe/trade his ass drama is fueling him... seems like thats all the motivation he needed cause he's on pace to a double double season. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: teecee on January 05, 2008, 06:01:34 AM
WTF????  I have been travelling around the world since August, haven't checked this board since, and yet its still the same bullshit??!!  This is fucking hilarious man, NIK, you are still killing it with your crazy statements.  Good stuff, you are right, the Lakers were better, that is why their record for three str8 years was ass, they got beat twice by the Suns (including a time when they were up 3-1- good teams don't lose their composure and blow leads like that).......

I will say this: got a chance to watch Lakers and Bynum yesterday on satelite ESPN here in Vietnam, and could not fucking believe it!  Dude DOES have low post moves, and who gives a fuck if he dunks all the time, its two points, just like Shaq.  Lakers are looking pretty nice right now, BUT, NIK, don't make outrageous comments as you then end up looking like a fucking retard again-  I don't want that to happen again for your sake so take it easy with the "LAkers will sweep Suns, they've always been better even though they can't beat them in a series" bullshit, and Steve Nash #8?  Maybe he started off slow, but he is killing it right now......of course, he will fall off soon, dude IS 34.......


Right now, Amare and Howard are better than Bynum, but in two years?  I think Bynum may have both of them.....
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: D~Nice on January 05, 2008, 09:15:50 AM
Amare is a better scorer, Bynum is a better defender/rebounder

Amare you have to run plays for him, Bynum no

Amare could score 10 points and have 10 rebounds and unless Nash and others are having a GREAT game, I don't like their chances of winning, Bynum can put up those numbers in a Phil Jackson system with Kobe and consistently improve on them, he makes the Lakers a COMPLETELY different team. 
Title: Re: Bynum>Amare.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 05, 2008, 12:04:37 PM
WTF????  I have been travelling around the world since August, haven't checked this board since, and yet its still the same bullshit??!!  This is fucking hilarious man, NIK, you are still killing it with your crazy statements.  Good stuff, you are right, the Lakers were better, that is why their record for three str8 years was ass, they got beat twice by the Suns (including a time when they were up 3-1- good teams don't lose their composure and blow leads like that).......

I will say this: got a chance to watch Lakers and Bynum yesterday on satelite ESPN here in Vietnam, and could not fucking believe it!  Dude DOES have low post moves, and who gives a fuck if he dunks all the time, its two points, just like Shaq.  Lakers are looking pretty nice right now, BUT, NIK, don't make outrageous comments as you then end up looking like a fucking retard again-  I don't want that to happen again for your sake so take it easy with the "LAkers will sweep Suns, they've always been better even though they can't beat them in a series" bullshit, and Steve Nash #8?  Maybe he started off slow, but he is killing it right now......of course, he will fall off soon, dude IS 34.......


Right now, Amare and Howard are better than Bynum, but in two years?  I think Bynum may have both of them.....



Bynum>Amare

Lakers>Suns

 ;D