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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: HEC on March 16, 2008, 08:18:09 AM
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When I first heard that Teddy was going to be on it I was excited because he is indeed a legend but somehow the tracks they did were just ok to me not mindblowing or anything. Actually the best tracks on the album were "Press Play", "Neva Have To Worry", "Sets Up", "One Chance (Make It Good)" all by other producers. I think the only standout track that Teddy did was that last track on the album.
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I never was impressed with him working with Snoop. I got about what I expected, a updated New Jack Swing sound. Something completely new that Snoop really has never rapped over in his career. Not a diss, just I was very cautious of if the collabo would work. Verdict is still out for me.
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I never was impressed with him working with Snoop. I got about what I expected, a updated New Jack Swing sound. Something completely new that Snoop really has never rapped over in his career. Not a diss, just I was very cautious of if the collabo would work. Verdict is still out for me.
I thought there was going to be more of a Teddy Riley/Quik combo the way I perceived it but in reality Quik only mixed the tracks except for "Press Play", maybe Quik should have coproduced some tracks, I don't know :-\
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I thought his production sounded fresh for today even though its updated r&b/new jack swing type beats like someone else said.
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THIS WAS TERRIBLE MOVE FOR SNOOP I AGREE HE SHOULD HAVE STICK TO THE SAME PRODUCERS WHO DID HIS LAST ALBUM WHICH WAS FAVORITE OF MINE I ONLY LIKE A FEW SONGS ON THIS ALBUM
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am I the only one who likes this album? LOL
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am I the only one who likes this album? LOL
Nah, I like it so far, just taking me some time to get a feel for it.
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am I the only one who likes this album? LOL
;D no i like it to, it was the same thing on his last album were people was talking bullshit
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am I the only one who likes this album? LOL
Nah, I like it so far, just taking me some time to get a feel for it.
props I thought I was alone LOL
I respect everybodys opinion but it seemed like all the great posters didn't like it you are the first one who I think has
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am I the only one who likes this album? LOL
Nah, I like it so far, just taking me some time to get a feel for it.
props I thought I was alone LOL
I respect everybodys opinion but it seemed like all the great posters didn't like it you are the first one who I think has
lol :laugh:
but at the end of the day, the opinions of those posters have just as much value as the opinions of others, as long as it's not based on some biased bullshit.
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am I the only one who likes this album? LOL
Nah, I like it so far, just taking me some time to get a feel for it.
props I thought I was alone LOL
I respect everybodys opinion but it seemed like all the great posters didn't like it you are the first one who I think has
lol :laugh:
but at the end of the day, the opinions of those posters have just as much value as the opinions of others, as long as it's not based on some biased bullshit.
thats real talk homie 8)
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am I the only one who likes this album? LOL
Nah, I like it so far, just taking me some time to get a feel for it.
props I thought I was alone LOL
I respect everybodys opinion but it seemed like all the great posters didn't like it you are the first one who I think has
I have a more progressive ear to Snoop then alot of other people. Not as a diss, but I can dig alot more of the different sounds and routes Snoop has done over his career. With that said, I do have a preference when he works with the usual suspects, Dre, DPGC, etc. But I am open to a new sound and change, I liked R&G but this one is taking some time for me to vibe off of. COMPLETELY different sound.
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I THINK SNOOP SHOULD HAVE DRE AND HIS PRODUCERS WORK ON HIS NEXT ALBUM BECAUSE THE BEATS THAT THEY DID FOR HIS LAST ONE WERE BETTER THAN ANY BEAT ON EGO TRIPPIN
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I don't have any problem with Teddy Riley's songs, Snoop Dogg Is Out is one of the coolest beats ever... However I don't recognize the New Jack Swing sound that was a forefather for west coast rap. To me it's just a new kind of sound.
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If you were expecting Teddy Riley to produce a hardcore gangsta rap album (Which He Does Not Do) then your going to be dissapointed, but if you were expecting Teddy Riley to do what he does best which is make funky ass R&B ish then its a hit record.
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am I the only one who likes this album? LOL
Nah, I like it so far, just taking me some time to get a feel for it.
props I thought I was alone LOL
I respect everybodys opinion but it seemed like all the great posters didn't like it you are the first one who I think has
I have a more progressive ear to Snoop then alot of other people. Not as a diss, but I can dig alot more of the different sounds and routes Snoop has done over his career. With that said, I do have a preference when he works with the usual suspects, Dre, DPGC, etc. But I am open to a new sound and change, I liked R&G but this one is taking some time for me to vibe off of. COMPLETELY different sound.
props 8)
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it doesn't sound like an updated new jack swing style at all to me, although doing that would have been dope in my opinion.
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Never been a big fan of Teddy Riley. Overall, though, "Ego Trippin'" has the cleanest production out of any Snoop albums(with the exception of "Doggystyle"). Guess you would expect that when Quik is responsible for mixing most of the album. I'm very impressed with this album and I've only listened to it 4 or 5 times thoroughly.
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it doesn't sound like an updated new jack swing style at all to me, although doing that would have been dope in my opinion.
SD Is Out is dope as fuck. I like that track Teddy did. And it THUMPS in the ride.
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its weird that from the first 3 singles none of them produced by Teddy Riley
maybe that means something :-\
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The only tracks I'm feeling on this album is "Press Play" (even though I felt Snoop didn't come hard enough on it), "SD Is Out", "Make It Good", "Sexual Eruption" and "Life Of The Party" (which grew on me after a while)... So, that's not saying much for this album. I mean, more than half of it was totally rushed. I dunno', seemed like a LOT of hype went into this project and a half ass result came out.
BTW: As far as the thread goes, Teddy Riley appears as half the artist he once was on this project.
TBCT > Ego Trippin' 8)
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it doesn't sound like an updated new jack swing style at all to me, although doing that would have been dope in my opinion.
That's what's up
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honestly i was dissapointed with the whole record. yes the mixing was A+ (i wonder how much doper doggfather would of been with quik mastering?) but if i'm only feelin half of the record, then that's a problem.
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I was hoping Teddy produced this album like he did for Queenpen's. That CD had some good west coast sounding beats. Lots of good samples, etc. This new stuff he did for snoop wasn't very good.
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honestly i was dissapointed with the whole record. yes the mixing was A+ (i wonder how much doper doggfather would of been with quik mastering?) but if i'm only feelin half of the record, then that's a problem.
you are damn right about the mixing on Doggfather, Quik would have made that record sound incredible
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honestly i was dissapointed with the whole record. yes the mixing was A+ (i wonder how much doper doggfather would of been with quik mastering?) but if i'm only feelin half of the record, then that's a problem.
you are damn right about the mixing on Doggfather, Quik would have made that record sound incredible
did tha doggfather ever get remastered like alot of the deathrow releases? if it did, i wonder how it sounds compared to the original.
shit, i'd like to hear doggfather, dead man walkin, retaliation, revenge & get back, and 2002 remastered.
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honestly i was dissapointed with the whole record. yes the mixing was A+ (i wonder how much doper doggfather would of been with quik mastering?) but if i'm only feelin half of the record, then that's a problem.
you are damn right about the mixing on Doggfather, Quik would have made that record sound incredible
did tha doggfather ever get remastered like alot of the deathrow releases? if it did, i wonder how it sounds compared to the original.
shit, i'd like to hear doggfather, dead man walkin, retaliation, revenge & get back, and 2002 remastered.
I know for sure that Doggfather and Retaliation got remastered and rereleased by Death Row around 2001, I've seen them in stores but I still have my originals so I never copped them, would be interesting to hear the sound
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honestly i was dissapointed with the whole record. yes the mixing was A+ (i wonder how much doper doggfather would of been with quik mastering?) but if i'm only feelin half of the record, then that's a problem.
you are damn right about the mixing on Doggfather, Quik would have made that record sound incredible
did tha doggfather ever get remastered like alot of the deathrow releases? if it did, i wonder how it sounds compared to the original.
shit, i'd like to hear doggfather, dead man walkin, retaliation, revenge & get back, and 2002 remastered.
I know for sure that Doggfather and Retaliation got remastered and rereleased by Death Row around 2001, I've seen them in stores but I still have my originals so I never copped them, would be interesting to hear the sound
well the only way to find out would be to rip both albums in raw wav format (no compression meaning no mp3) and compare the two in a wav editor (cool edit pro, soundwave, etc)
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honestly i was dissapointed with the whole record. yes the mixing was A+ (i wonder how much doper doggfather would of been with quik mastering?) but if i'm only feelin half of the record, then that's a problem.
you are damn right about the mixing on Doggfather, Quik would have made that record sound incredible
did tha doggfather ever get remastered like alot of the deathrow releases? if it did, i wonder how it sounds compared to the original.
shit, i'd like to hear doggfather, dead man walkin, retaliation, revenge & get back, and 2002 remastered.
I know for sure that Doggfather and Retaliation got remastered and rereleased by Death Row around 2001, I've seen them in stores but I still have my originals so I never copped them, would be interesting to hear the sound
well the only way to find out would be to rip both albums in raw wav format (no compression meaning no mp3) and compare the two in a wav editor (cool edit pro, soundwave, etc)
i'm about to make a thread on it and see if anybody on the forum has them
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honestly i was dissapointed with the whole record. yes the mixing was A+ (i wonder how much doper doggfather would of been with quik mastering?) but if i'm only feelin half of the record, then that's a problem.
you are damn right about the mixing on Doggfather, Quik would have made that record sound incredible
did tha doggfather ever get remastered like alot of the deathrow releases? if it did, i wonder how it sounds compared to the original.
shit, i'd like to hear doggfather, dead man walkin, retaliation, revenge & get back, and 2002 remastered.
I know for sure that Doggfather and Retaliation got remastered and rereleased by Death Row around 2001, I've seen them in stores but I still have my originals so I never copped them, would be interesting to hear the sound
well the only way to find out would be to rip both albums in raw wav format (no compression meaning no mp3) and compare the two in a wav editor (cool edit pro, soundwave, etc)
While it's a long read, it's worth reading if you're an audiophile type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
Here's part of the article that should be noted in regards to remastering.
Many recordings have been re-released in remastered form. Pre-LP recordings may be remastered using 'Computer Enhanced Digital Audio Restoration' (CEDAR). Such tools are designed to improve the bandwidth of the recording and to reduce background noise. The critical response to remasters can be mixed. Sometimes an extended frequency response is welcomed, since this can improve the sense of clarity and ambience of the recording. Other times this improved sense of ambience may be counterbalanced by an unnatural and excessive sharpness to the recording.[14]
Many record companies may decide to increase the average RMS level of the recording with the aid of compression, limiting, and/or clipping. This is especially common with pop music remasters. Two screenshots here, of ABBA's "One Of Us", from their 1981 album The Visitors (released on CD in 1983) demonstrate the effect.
The first image is taken from the original Polydor CD release.
The second image is taken from the 2005 remaster (part of the Complete Studio Recordings box set). There is a heavy amount of compression and the dynamics and "snap" of the original track have been lost as a result.
The Examples section contains several other remastered albums that have been remastered in this fashion.
One Of Us (1981) [Original]
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/Oneofus_1981.png/180px-Oneofus_1981.png)
One Of Us (2005) [Remastered]
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Oneofus_2005.png/180px-Oneofus_2005.png)
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honestly i was dissapointed with the whole record. yes the mixing was A+ (i wonder how much doper doggfather would of been with quik mastering?) but if i'm only feelin half of the record, then that's a problem.
you are damn right about the mixing on Doggfather, Quik would have made that record sound incredible
did tha doggfather ever get remastered like alot of the deathrow releases? if it did, i wonder how it sounds compared to the original.
shit, i'd like to hear doggfather, dead man walkin, retaliation, revenge & get back, and 2002 remastered.
I know for sure that Doggfather and Retaliation got remastered and rereleased by Death Row around 2001, I've seen them in stores but I still have my originals so I never copped them, would be interesting to hear the sound
well the only way to find out would be to rip both albums in raw wav format (no compression meaning no mp3) and compare the two in a wav editor (cool edit pro, soundwave, etc)
While it's a long read, it's worth reading if you're an audiophile type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
Here's part of the article that should be noted in regards to remastering.
Many recordings have been re-released in remastered form. Pre-LP recordings may be remastered using 'Computer Enhanced Digital Audio Restoration' (CEDAR). Such tools are designed to improve the bandwidth of the recording and to reduce background noise. The critical response to remasters can be mixed. Sometimes an extended frequency response is welcomed, since this can improve the sense of clarity and ambience of the recording. Other times this improved sense of ambience may be counterbalanced by an unnatural and excessive sharpness to the recording.[14]
Many record companies may decide to increase the average RMS level of the recording with the aid of compression, limiting, and/or clipping. This is especially common with pop music remasters. Two screenshots here, of ABBA's "One Of Us", from their 1981 album The Visitors (released on CD in 1983) demonstrate the effect.
The first image is taken from the original Polydor CD release.
The second image is taken from the 2005 remaster (part of the Complete Studio Recordings box set). There is a heavy amount of compression and the dynamics and "snap" of the original track have been lost as a result.
The Examples section contains several other remastered albums that have been remastered in this fashion.
One Of Us (1981) [Original]
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/Oneofus_1981.png/180px-Oneofus_1981.png)
One Of Us (2005) [Remastered]
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Oneofus_2005.png/180px-Oneofus_2005.png)
props. I don't own any remastered copies of albums so I really can't comment on the sound quality but it is interesting in how this is done
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yessir, he can do it better.