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Title: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: Lunatic on August 14, 2008, 10:02:38 PM
Thought it'd be a good idea with all the game talk.

Intro - N/A
Westside Story - 5/5 - perfect way to start off the album; bangin west coast beat and 50 did his thang on the hook.
Dreams - 5/5 - CLASSIC hiphop track, period. In 10 years, I think THIS is the Game track will look back on as his best.
Hate It Or Love It - 5/5 - CLASSIC. Don't think a hiphop album has ever started off this good 3 tracks deep.
Higher - 4.5/5 - IMO the best "hardcore mainstreaming" sounding track on the album - would have been 1st single if I chose that lol
How We Do - 4/5 - Not bad for a mainstream first single at all, hot beat fa sho and the hook is good.
Don't Need Your Love - 5/5 - Classic. Love the beat. Game raps his ass off on this. Evans did her thang as well.
Church For Thugs - 4/5 Bangin just Blaze Beat.
Put You On The Game - 4.5/5 - 'Bout on par with Higher
Start From Scratch - 5/5 - CLASSIC. Marsha does her thang and I love this beat. Another standout track easily.
The Documentary - 3.75/5 - Far from the best on the album, love the creative hook and concept though. Something lacked (still good).
Runnin' 3.5/5 - Like the beat and Game rappin but wow at how horrible Yayo came on this
No More Fun & Games - 4/5 - Game raps his ass off on this one
We Ain't - 3.75/5 - Avg Em beat and Em disappointed me with his verse. Game jacks the Em flow but uses it well.
Where I'm From - 4.5/5 - classic west coast summer time track.
Special - 3.25/5 - not really my style
Don't Worry - 3.5/5 - see special lol
Like Father, Like Son - 5/5 - classic and nice way to close out the album.
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: RingMan on August 15, 2008, 02:57:58 AM
ok, here is mine, Ill give only full marks

Westside Story - 4/5, yeah west coast track, but with 50? he should put OG version with Snoop, and I dont like that beat much
Dreams - 5/5, same with you
Hate It Or Love It - 5/5, one of best Game's songs ever
Higher - 4/5
How We Do - 5/5, songs on Documentary are the only thing good on Game's membership on G-Unit
Don't Need Your Love - 4/5
Put You On The Game - 5/5
Start From Scratch - 5/5
The Documentary - 4/5
Runnin' - 4/5, Yayo fucked up this song totally, why he didnt put Banks on it?
No More Fun And Games - 4/5
We Ain't - 4/5
Where I'm From - 3/5, not feeling this song, but that WNBA line is dope
Special - 3/5, too much girl songs on this album
Don't Worry - 5/5, this is exception :D I didnt like this song, but now I live it
Like Father, Like Son - 5/5, he should do part II for LAX
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: Black Gloves on August 15, 2008, 03:01:15 AM

My favorite Game song on The Documentary will always be Start From Scratch...classic song IMO 8)
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: K.Dub on August 15, 2008, 04:09:37 AM
Only 5/5 tracks imo are Start From Scratch, Dreams and Put You On the Game
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on August 15, 2008, 06:56:00 AM
Thought it'd be a good idea with all the game talk.

Intro - N/A
Westside Story - 5/5 - perfect way to start off the album; bangin west coast beat and 50 did his thang on the hook.
Dreams - 5/5 - CLASSIC hiphop track, period. In 10 years, I think THIS is the Game track will look back on as his best.
Hate It Or Love It - 5/5 - CLASSIC. Don't think a hiphop album has ever started off this good 3 tracks deep.
Higher - 4.5/5 - IMO the best "hardcore mainstreaming" sounding track on the album - would have been 1st single if I chose that lol
How We Do - 4/5 - Not bad for a mainstream first single at all, hot beat fa sho and the hook is good.
Don't Need Your Love - 5/5 - Classic. Love the beat. Game raps his ass off on this. Evans did her thang as well.
Church For Thugs - 4/5 Bangin just Blaze Beat.
Put You On The Game - 4.5/5 - 'Bout on par with Higher
Start From Scratch - 5/5 - CLASSIC. Marsha does her thang and I love this beat. Another standout track easily.
The Documentary - 3.75/5 - Far from the best on the album, love the creative hook and concept though. Something lacked (still good).
Runnin' 3.5/5 - Like the beat and Game rappin but wow at how horrible Yayo came on this
No More Fun & Games - 4/5 - Game raps his ass off on this one
We Ain't - 3.75/5 - Avg Em beat and Em disappointed me with his verse. Game jacks the Em flow but uses it well.
Where I'm From - 4.5/5 - classic west coast summer time track.
Special - 3.25/5 - not really my style
Don't Worry - 3.5/5 - see special lol
Like Father, Like Son - 5/5 - classic and nice way to close out the album.

I'll make mine out of 10.. with 10 being a track on the level of "Nuttin But A G Thang" from the Chronic and 1 being any song by Soulja Boy....


Westside Story- 6.5-  Dope track

Dreams-  8-  Maybe Game's best and most memorable joint like the opening post said

Hate It Or Love It-  7-  Nice concept track

Higher-  3-  Sometimes less is more, this track was a little too much for me

How We Do-  6-  Okay for a single, way too predictable

Don't Need Your Love-  8-  Game goes deep with this one, hook is infectious

Church For Thugs-  3-  skipped over this track

Put You On Game- 8-  Timbo really hooked Game up with a Monster track

Start From Scratch- 7.5-  Great concept track, Dre produced

Tha Documentary- 3- skipped over this joint too

Runnin- 8.5-  I personally LOVED this song, Hi Tek did his thing, loved the little tapping in the background

No More Fun And Games- 3- Another one I skip over

We Ain't-  7-  This was recorded after 8 Mile, which means we are not hearing Eminem at his best or in his prime, so it's not on the level of a "Say My Name" like Eminem hooked Xzibit up with, but considering this track was done after Eminem had already fallen off it's a great joint

Where I'm From- 7-  Bangin.. dope ass West Coast joint

Special - 3.5-  Another track to skip over

Don't Worry- 4- Alright I guess

Like Father Like Son-  6.5  Another dope concept track


Overall-   8-10

Not as great as the West Coast golden age era albums like Doggystyle, Dogg Food, Chronic, Niggaz4Life, Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Makevelli 7 Day Theory.... and so on....

But compared to the post 2,000 era, it's not on the level of 50 Cent's Get Rich Or Die Trying... but it's close.
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: Black Gloves on August 15, 2008, 08:15:46 AM


Take off We Aint and Dont Worry..lyrically, No Fun and Games is tight but the whole sound sounds off from the rest of the album.

Keep the rest of the tracks!
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: D-Stress on August 15, 2008, 09:06:50 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: UCC on August 15, 2008, 12:43:47 PM
I'm surprised so many cats feel Start From Scratch, I always thought the drums on that were mad weak, and the cheesy R&B hook didn't help it - filler track to me

Dreams, Westside Story, How We Do, Hate It Or Love It, Put You On The Game are all dope though, and a couple of others


Not as great as the West Coast golden age era albums like Doggystyle, Dogg Food, Chronic, Niggaz4Life, Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Makevelli 7 Day Theory.... and so on....

But compared to the post 2,000 era, it's not on the level of 50 Cent's Get Rich Or Die Trying... but it's close.

Co-sign, though I think Documentary and Get Rich... are about on the same level
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: Dre-Day on August 15, 2008, 12:47:23 PM
I'm surprised so many cats feel Start From Scratch, I always thought the drums on that were mad weak, and the cheesy R&B hook didn't help it - filler track to me
i respect your taste, but the hook didn't feel generic to me at all  :-\
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: AnybodyKilla on August 15, 2008, 12:52:42 PM
Intro - N/A
Westside Story - 4.5/5
Dreams - 5/5
Hate It Or Love It - 4.5/5
Higher - 4/5
How We Do - 4/5
Don't Need Your Love - 4.5/5
Church For Thugs - 4/5
Put You On The Game - 4.5/5
The Documentary - 4/5
Start From Scratch - 5/5
Runnin' - 4/5
No More Fun & Games - 4/5
We Ain't - 4.5/5
Where I'm From - 4/5
Special - 4/5
Don't Worry - 4/5
Like Father, Like Son - 5/5

This albums full of all classics, and is a tad bit better then DA. I wonder where LAX is gonna fit!!!
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 15, 2008, 01:24:48 PM
Intro - N/A
Westside Story - 4.5/5
Dreams - 5/5
Hate It Or Love It - 4.5/5
Higher - 4/5
How We Do - 4/5
Don't Need Your Love - 4.5/5
Church For Thugs - 4/5
Put You On The Game - 4.5/5
The Documentary - 4/5
Start From Scratch - 5/5
Runnin' - 4/5
No More Fun & Games - 4/5
We Ain't - 4.5/5
Where I'm From - 4/5
Special - 4/5
Don't Worry - 4/5
Like Father, Like Son - 5/5

This albums full of all classics, and is a tad bit better then DA. I wonder where LAX is gonna fit!!!

^thats what i woulda ranked each song. and word, slightly better than DA...i do think LAX>DOC>DA. but i have not even heard the clean version yet. I heard "Pain", "Dope Boyz" & "My Life". all 4-5/5 tracks to me. this album is headed in the right direction.
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: Dre-Day on August 17, 2008, 12:38:40 AM
I'm surprised so many cats feel Start From Scratch, I always thought the drums on that were mad weak, and the cheesy R&B hook didn't help it - filler track to me

nah to me, the only thing that could have been improved a little was the bassline
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: The King on August 17, 2008, 12:41:02 AM
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Dreams - 5/5 - CLASSIC hiphop track, period. In 10 years, I think THIS is the Game track will look back on as his best.

Why do sappy, simple minded fans think Dreams and Start from Scratch are so deep. Their simple songs, with a stupid message, full of name dropping and bad lyrics, made from a moronic, mediocre rapper.
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: Lunatic on August 17, 2008, 12:42:23 AM
^lol i get it, u think game is wack

but lol at TOS bein album of the year or whatever u said it is - i am a gunit fan and hoped TOS could bring them back 2 da right spot; only put them even deeper in the shit hole
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: AnybodyKilla on August 17, 2008, 12:52:05 AM
^lol i get it, u think game is wack

but lol at TOS bein album of the year or whatever u said it is - i am a gunit fan and hoped TOS could bring them back 2 da right spot; only put them even deeper in the shit hole

LMFAO, real talk!!!
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: NillerTheKid on August 17, 2008, 03:50:51 AM

Intro - N/A
Westside Story - 4.75/5
Dreams - 5/5
Hate It Or Love It - 4.5/5
Higher - 5/5
How We Do - 4/5
Don't Need Your Love - 4/5
Church For Thugs - 5/5
Put You On The Game - 4.75/5
The Documentary - 4,75/5
Start From Scratch - 5/5
Runnin' - 3,5/5
No More Fun & Games - 4,5/5
We Ain't - 2/5
Where I'm From - 5/5
Special - 2,5/5
Don't Worry - 4/5
Like Father, Like Son - 5/5
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on August 17, 2008, 04:01:09 AM
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Dreams - 5/5 - CLASSIC hiphop track, period. In 10 years, I think THIS is the Game track will look back on as his best.

Why do sappy, simple minded fans think Dreams and Start from Scratch are so deep. Their simple songs, with a stupid message, full of name dropping and bad lyrics, made from a moronic, mediocre rapper.

I don't like Dreams either...
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: smegma on August 17, 2008, 04:10:56 AM
Dreams is a great track, but you're reaching far if you think those lyrics are deep :laugh:
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: BlueSwan on August 17, 2008, 07:47:50 AM
I became a Game fan with "The Documentary", but overall I like "Doctors Advocate" way more. However, you can't argue with the start sequence of songs. The album is fire up until Runnin', where it fizzles out, IMO.

Westside Story - 4,5 - tight
Dreams - 5 - classic
Hate It Or Love It - 5 - right away my favourite, and it remains my favourite
Higher - 5 - Dre on top of his game.
How We Do - 4,5 - hot
Don't Need Your Love - 3 - doesn't do much for me
Church For Thugs - 5 - bangin'
Put You On The Game - 5 - One of Timberlands best beats ever.
Start From Scratch - 4 - everybody loves this. I think it's solid, but not classic.
The Documentary - 4,5 - another bangion' track.
Runnin' 3.5 - its got Yayo on it
No More Fun & Games - 3 - Just Blaze and Game is a great combo, but this is their weakest track.
We Ain't - 3 - Don't like the Eminem beat much.
Where I'm From - 3 - a bit dull.
Special - 3.5 - OK track
Don't Worry - 2,5 - Boring
Like Father, Like Son - 4 - Solid
Title: Re: Ranking Song By Song On "The Documentary"
Post by: Matty on August 17, 2008, 07:49:27 AM
how we do is probably the best track on this album, that and the timbaland one. reason - does exactly what it says on the tin. its a thumping club track, game comes off well with the simple lyrics and 'gangsta' delivery and 50 drops a catchy hook. that track is basically responsible for game's career in the mainstream like how 50 made it big with 'in da club'. some of the other tracks are cool too but those ones work the best...