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Title: Hard Liquor hook and production confusion finally answered + track
Post by: GunMaster G-9 on August 16, 2008, 02:18:42 AM
EDIT:

Ok, now I was listening to this song carefully... and at the start where rappers usually credit the producer of the track.... Game says....
''Dre YOU must have been off the henasy when HE did this one nigga''

Now to me this sounds like Game is talking to Dre and says that Dre must have been too drunk from the henasy to produce a track so Jelly Roll produced this one.

Also from a dubcnn interview (http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/thegame/) Game says it is Jelly Roll himself
Quote
Dubcnn: One thing which kinda showed the quality of your last album is that even the leftovers were on a high quality level. There was this one leftover called "Hard Liquor" with Jelly Roll. That song was easy album material in my eyes, and would have probably been by far the best song on other peoples albums?

The Game: Yeah, I wrote that and Jelly Roll produced that track. But you know, that wasn't shit but some mixtape shit.

It is officially Jelly Roll on the hook. Because Jelly Roll is credited for the vocals on the Hard Liquor (Interlude) from LAX. So it must have been him on the original leftover from The Documentary.

So i have come to a conclusion that:

Hard Liquor (feat. Jelly Roll)
Produced by Jelly Roll

the game - hard liquor feat. jelly roll produced by jelly roll.mp3 - 5.40MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/1718872471e41b14/)
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: es-jay on August 16, 2008, 02:26:59 AM
pretty sure its Dr. Dre.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Dre-Day on August 16, 2008, 02:30:01 AM
lol, how many times is this going to pop up  :sleep:
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: GunMaster G-9 on August 16, 2008, 02:33:21 AM
lol, how many times is this going to pop up  :sleep:

so why is some other moron telling me its Jelly Roll...
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Bones01 on August 16, 2008, 02:39:56 AM
cos it is Jelly Roll on the hook and beat, Game said it himself
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on August 16, 2008, 02:40:55 AM
It's Jelly Roll, not Kokane. Not sure about the beat though.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Bones01 on August 16, 2008, 02:44:41 AM
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/thegame/
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: GunMaster G-9 on August 16, 2008, 03:41:08 AM
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/thegame/

Quote
Dubcnn: One thing which kinda showed the quality of your last album is that even the leftovers were on a high quality level. There was this one leftover called "Hard Liquor" with Jelly Roll. That song was easy album material in my eyes, and would have probably been by far the best song on other peoples albums?

The Game: Yeah, I wrote that and Jelly Roll produced that track. But you know, that wasn't shit but some mixtape shit.

so who is on the hook? Kokane or Jelly Roll? and why the fuck did game say ....Dre you must have been off the henasy when you did this one nigga?
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Black Excellence on August 16, 2008, 04:03:05 AM
hook by: jelly roll. produced by: dr. dre. song from documentary era. this shows you how game's still obsessed wit dre LOL.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on August 16, 2008, 05:27:28 AM
I'm sure Game says "Dre he must have been on the hennessey when he did this one" - i.e. talking to Dre about Jelly Roll.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Jome on August 16, 2008, 09:22:17 AM
I'm sure Game says "Dre he must have been on the hennessey when he did this one" - i.e. talking to Dre about Jelly Roll.

Nah, it's "Dre, you must have been off the Hennessey when you did this one nigga.

There was some interview some years ago where it was revealed that Dre was in the studio with Game, and Dre asked Game to come up with a hook for the track, but Game didn't come up with anything, or Dre didn't like it, so Dre called in Jellyroll to do the hook.. I think it was mentioned in the context of 50's hook-writing skills.
Dunno if it was a 50 or Game interview, NJD, or whoever it was, but I remember reading it, and it sounds kinda believable.

Btw, the interlude on Game's album sounds slightly different from the released version of Hard Liquor.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: GunMaster G-9 on August 16, 2008, 11:19:31 AM
I'm sure Game says "Dre he must have been on the hennessey when he did this one" - i.e. talking to Dre about Jelly Roll.

Nah, it's "Dre, you must have been off the Hennessey when you did this one nigga.

There was some interview some years ago where it was revealed that Dre was in the studio with Game, and Dre asked Game to come up with a hook for the track, but Game didn't come up with anything, or Dre didn't like it, so Dre called in Jellyroll to do the hook.. I think it was mentioned in the context of 50's hook-writing skills.
Dunno if it was a 50 or Game interview, NJD, or whoever it was, but I remember reading it, and it sounds kinda believable.

Btw, the interlude on Game's album sounds slightly different from the released version of Hard Liquor.



so why did game give jelly roll the production credits in that dubccnn interview....?
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: MR X To Tha Z on August 16, 2008, 11:35:02 AM
I'm sure Game says "Dre he must have been on the hennessey when he did this one" - i.e. talking to Dre about Jelly Roll.

Nah, it's "Dre, you must have been off the Hennessey when you did this one nigga.

There was some interview some years ago where it was revealed that Dre was in the studio with Game, and Dre asked Game to come up with a hook for the track, but Game didn't come up with anything, or Dre didn't like it, so Dre called in Jellyroll to do the hook.. I think it was mentioned in the context of 50's hook-writing skills.
Dunno if it was a 50 or Game interview, NJD, or whoever it was, but I remember reading it, and it sounds kinda believable.

Btw, the interlude on Game's album sounds slightly different from the released version of Hard Liquor.



so why did game give jelly roll the production credits in that dubccnn interview....?

this is from that interview
Dubcnn: One thing which kinda showed the quality of your last album is that even the leftovers were on a high quality level. There was this one leftover called "Hard Liquor" with Jelly Roll. That song was easy album material in my eyes, and would have probably been by far the best song on other peoples albums?

The Game: Yeah, I wrote that and Jelly Roll produced that track. But you know, that wasn't sh*t but some mixtape sh*t. 

Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: The King on August 16, 2008, 12:26:10 PM
Jelly Roll is a producer, theirs no way he'd be on the hook without producing the track. Game name drops Dre all the time. Saying this sounds like Kokane is insulting to him.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Jome on August 16, 2008, 03:45:16 PM
so why did game give jelly roll the production credits in that dubccnn interview....?

Game contradicts himself all the time, he seems rather confused.


Jelly Roll is a producer, theirs no way he'd be on the hook without producing the track. Game name drops Dre all the time. Saying this sounds like Kokane is insulting to him.

No ?

15. Never Can Say Goodbye (feat. Latoya Williams)
Produced by Ervin "EP" Pope
Bass by Willam "kiddFLYY" Taylor
Guitar by Glenn Jeffrey
Vocals by Traci Nelson & Jellyroll

I know Jelly did vocals before without producing the track as well.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: lost_assassin on August 16, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
so why did game give jelly roll the production credits in that dubccnn interview....?

Game contradicts himself all the time, he seems rather confused.

[No ?

15. Never Can Say Goodbye (feat. Latoya Williams)
Produced by Ervin "EP" Pope
Bass by Willam "kiddFLYY" Taylor
Guitar by Glenn Jeffrey
Vocals by Traci Nelson & Jellyroll

I know Jelly did vocals before without producing the track as well.



oooooouch .. sounds like dreish beats . not jellyrolls, he's got a way different style even wen he fucks wit the piano
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Big J/ Gain Green on August 16, 2008, 07:26:40 PM
Me and Jellyroll from tha same label! For tha last time its Jellyroll singing tha hook not Kocain!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Big J/ Gain Green on August 16, 2008, 07:31:27 PM
AS far as tha beat goes Ask Game????? 100% fact Jelly Singing but he didnt make tha beat.. I wana say Dre, then i've also heard Rodny Jerkins
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: Larrabee on August 16, 2008, 08:33:32 PM
If I were a betting man, I'd say it was produced by Dr. Dre and Scott Storch. Makes sense seeing as how Dre & Scott cooked up the Start From Scratch joint, as well as Westside Story - both off the Documentary. The keys are vintage Storch.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor (Feat. Kokane) Question (Produced By ?????)
Post by: GunMaster G-9 on August 17, 2008, 09:55:36 AM
Ok, now I was listening to this song carefully... and at the start where rappers usually credit the producer of the track.... Game says....
''Dre YOU must have been off the henasy when HE did this one nigga''

Now to me this sounds like Game is talking to Dre and says that Dre must have been too drunk from the henasy to produce a track so Jelly Roll produced this one.

Also from a dubcnn interview (http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/thegame/) Game says it is Jelly Roll himself
Quote
Dubcnn: One thing which kinda showed the quality of your last album is that even the leftovers were on a high quality level. There was this one leftover called "Hard Liquor" with Jelly Roll. That song was easy album material in my eyes, and would have probably been by far the best song on other peoples albums?

The Game: Yeah, I wrote that and Jelly Roll produced that track. But you know, that wasn't shit but some mixtape shit.

It is officially Jelly Roll on the hook. Because Jelly Roll is credited for the vocals on the Hard Liquor (Interlude) from LAX. So it must have been him on the original leftover from The Documentary.

So i have come to a conclusion that:

Hard Liquor (feat. Jelly Roll)
Produced by Jelly Roll

the game - hard liquor feat. jelly roll produced by jelly roll.mp3 - 5.40MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/1718872471e41b14/)
Title: Re: Hard Liquor hook and production confusion finally answered + track
Post by: miragedesigns on August 17, 2008, 01:06:57 PM
i know why ppl are getting mixed up, because the style of the hook is something that kokane would do and they sound simlar, makes no sense game saying dre u must have been off the hennesy when u did this one ni**a and its a jelly roll produced track wouldnt jelly roll get pissed off that he aint getting no credit and dre is?
Title: Re: Hard Liquor hook and production confusion finally answered + track
Post by: 1234 on August 17, 2008, 01:26:17 PM
Dont believe half the shit Game says ever. I always thought it was produced by Jelly Roll I think I got some credits for it somewhere.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor hook and production confusion finally answered + track
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 17, 2008, 01:38:23 PM
one of my favorite westcoast traccs
one of my favorite game traccs

but theres too much confusion wit this 1 and "let me tell you something"
bangin tho
Title: Re: Hard Liquor hook and production confusion finally answered + track
Post by: Black Excellence on August 17, 2008, 02:20:02 PM
producers have what you would call a signature sound and dre fingerprints is all over this beat. it's not jelly roll's sound at all.
Title: Re: Hard Liquor hook and production confusion finally answered + track
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 17, 2008, 02:25:24 PM
cant think of another song that has caused more confusion than this 1 (yet anyway)