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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: love33 on August 17, 2008, 04:00:10 PM
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I just wanna give big props to Warren G for finally coming through on his new hit record that features Ray J titled "Crush." Warren really put it down on this track and put in some major work and Ray J smashed it with the hook. This is the type of music the West Coast needs to make to put it back on top and we're really finally starting to go the right direction. And when I say finally, take a look at the type of music that the West has been making and the results. Warren G's last single was a song about the president and the gas prices -- nobody wants to hear that shit in the club. This new joint he has is on point and will move some major units. Take a look at E-40 how he puts out a tight party track with Akon "Wake It Up." This is the type of music that will sell. Besides E-40, Snoop Dogg, The Game, and Too Short, the rest of the West needs to learn how to make a hit record in 2008.
Look at that garbage track by Crooked I "Dream Big." First off, Game already made a track called "Dreams" so that concept has already been used. And then he wasted an Akon hook on it and wonders why his music can't move units. I really don't feel the new West except for a small handful of artists because they try to hard to be like the 1993 West Coast music and they can't get any radio spins or move units for the most part except for Game. Crooked I needs to learn how to flow and make a track like Warren G "Crush" or E-40 "Wake It Up." Too Short has been scoring hits left and right like "Shake That Monkey," "Blow The Whistle", "That Baby Don't Look Like Me," and "Life Of Da Party" with Snoop Dogg. Snoop puts out hit records like "Sexual Seduction," "Beautiful," etc. These "new West" cats are a joke. Felli Fel will outsell Crooked I because he understands the formula -- "Bucc In Here" and "The Finer Things" was a huge smash. The Game sells records. People want to hear about the finer things, not some song about gas prices.
Ice Cube needs to get back on track and put Akon or T-Pain on one of his singles otherwise this album will flop like his last one. He's the one OG artist who is disapointing because he should know how to make adjustments -- you see E-40 make the adjustment, Warren G make the adjustment, cmon Cube, you've been in this game for 20, you should know how to make the move and sell some units and put the West in the limelight like he did with "Until We Rich" and "We Be Clubbin."
I think the West is starting to point itself in the right direction finally with hit records like E-40 coming through again ("U and Dat" was huge for him too not to long ago), Too Short, Snoop Dogg, and The Game.
The Game came through on his East Coast tribute track "Game's Pain" and the remix was solid. These artists are doing it. And people don't wanna hear this garbage that flops all the time like Sly Boogy, Crooked I, Bishop Lamont, etc.
That Bishop Lamont track "Grow Up" will flop for sure if that's his single. Nobody wants to hear that. Make a song with T-Pain, Rick Ross, Akon, DJ Khaled, or Ray J that people wanna hear. I'm tired of these rappers that cry all the time but don't make the proper adjustment. You know that a certain type of song isn't going to sell so why try to do it and then cry when it flops. These "New West" rappers for the most part need to take some notes from the season vets and follow in their footsteps.
I love the website but I think they should do more to promote the modern movement like put "Wake It Up" and "Crush" on the main page so people can download it.
I give Tha Realest props for doing a song with Ray J too. It's a pretty good track but probably won't get the huge exposure, but again, he's making a push in the right direction and following the hitmaking formula.
E-40 made the adjustment and now he's selling lots of records again, and now I just wanna give a big up to Warren G for dropping that useless song about the gas prices and the president and coming through with a hit record that people can bump and will move units. But if these guys keep making these dumb singles like "Dream Big," "Grow Up," etc. they are just gonna be tracks that end up in a few cats recycle bins. Big props and I think if they follow in the footsteps of the hitmakers, we can have the West shine once again.
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Ba ba ba ba ba baaaaaammmmmm! Good post buddy. Sad but true, no one likes rap anymore...only that cribs on audio shit.
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Jeezy, Ross, Wayne, and Game all move units and they are making raw hip-hop, but they understand the formula for hit records. Jezzy goes out and puts R. Kelly on a single, Rick Ross puts R Kelly on a single and T-Pain on his second single, Game puts Keisha Cole, and Wayne puts Static Major and Babyface. Certain rappers out there just have no clue. I hate to say it, but Ice Cube is one of them. Here's a guy who dropped classics that sell like "We Be Clubbin" "U Know How We Do It," "Until We Rich," etc. and now he's gonna do the same thing Sly Boogy, Jayo Felony, XL Middleton, Glasses Malone, Problem, and Crooked I are doing -- putting out records with a losing formula that don't move units.
You can't dance to "Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It" -- it don't take a genius to say that record is gonna flop. I like the idea of putting tracks on the album like the one with Game and WC and the "Do Ya Thang" is a good filler track. But, the album needs at least three formula standoff tracks and Cube is going to straight flop without it.
"It takes a nation," "Stand Tall," "Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It," and "Tommorrow," all need to come off the tracklist. He needs to put someone that can blow on the hook on the first single. Ray J and Keisha Cole are west coasters that he could go get that are right in his backyard. Bobby Valentino would be a good choice to throw on a couple tracks. He needs to pull Butch Cassidy off (he can't make modern-rap hooks) and Musiq Soulchild isn't a quality choice. He should consider doing a track with Jagged Edge, Usher, or Ginuwine. He could also put R. Kelly or Usher on a single. I like the Young Jeezy guest appearance but where's DJ Khaled? He's hot right now throw him on there. And how about a Cube and Akon and Cube and T-Pain collabo. This would give his album a shot in the arm. Even another track with Bone on the hook would be nice. I just can't understand why he would release something that we know is going to flop hard. Nobody wants to hear these political songs and come on Cube your 50 years old and you've been filthy rich for more than half your life, you're not out in the streets thugging, you're in the clubs poppin bottles of mo-mo and goose, making movies, and getting brain on the plane drinkin' champagne. On the real, how are you going to listen to this guy tell you about the street life and how tough his life is having to spend all that money?
If you look at Roscoe, Kurupt's brother, he has the right idea. He put Valentino on his hook "Buccle Up" and did another track with him called "This Is How We Do It." If Roscoe got the right push, he could have a hit record.
But it's sad because Cube has got the push and he's just wasting more talent on an album that is going to straight flop when the dude has the talent to make something huge happen if he was to collab with T-Pain and make the adjustment.
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How the fuck did cubes last album flop, going gold on indie is not a flop it was a huge fuckin success
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Cube & T-Pain collabo? I personally wouldn't listen to that shit.
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This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:
Ice Cube -- "My Footage"
01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound) * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs
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This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:
Ice Cube -- "My Footage"
01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound) * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs
LOL WHAT KIND OF BUDGET ARE U WORKIN ON?!! I MEAN IT WOULD BE DOPE BUT LETS BE SERIOUS HERE
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This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:
Ice Cube -- "My Footage"
01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound) * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs
that track 14 sounds like a dope idea for cube and kanye but i think the rest of your list has WAY to many party tracks (five of them) i think 2 or 3 would be cool for cube
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wat type ov nigga sit there and write all them songs and say how thy should be lol nigga u fuckin stoopid lol ice cube feat kanye lol shut tha fuck up u a loser mann write all tht bullshit who cares west a be iight music is juss down period and tha west to b real we really aint got too many tht can spit like come on now niggaz like hot dollar gets deals tpain rappin azz nigga get outta here tha west iz wack and we need to face it let sum ov these new younger cats in the game cuz we all make tha same type oov music on the westcoast and its played out now so b real wit yo self mann
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album looks like an r&b album with all those r&b singers u got there
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I just wanna give big props to Warren G for finally coming through on his new hit record that features Ray J titled "Crush." Warren really put it down on this track and put in some major work and Ray J smashed it with the hook. This is the type of music the West Coast needs to make to put it back on top and we're really finally starting to go the right direction. And when I say finally, take a look at the type of music that the West has been making and the results. Warren G's last single was a song about the president and the gas prices -- nobody wants to hear that shit in the club. This new joint he has is on point and will move some major units. Take a look at E-40 how he puts out a tight party track with Akon "Wake It Up." This is the type of music that will sell. Besides E-40, Snoop Dogg, The Game, and Too Short, the rest of the West needs to learn how to make a hit record in 2008.
Look at that garbage track by Crooked I "Dream Big." First off, Game already made a track called "Dreams" so that concept has already been used. And then he wasted an Akon hook on it and wonders why his music can't move units. I really don't feel the new West except for a small handful of artists because they try to hard to be like the 1993 West Coast music and they can't get any radio spins or move units for the most part except for Game. Crooked I needs to learn how to flow and make a track like Warren G "Crush" or E-40 "Wake It Up." Too Short has been scoring hits left and right like "Shake That Monkey," "Blow The Whistle", "That Baby Don't Look Like Me," and "Life Of Da Party" with Snoop Dogg. Snoop puts out hit records like "Sexual Seduction," "Beautiful," etc. These "new West" cats are a joke. Felli Fel will outsell Crooked I because he understands the formula -- "Bucc In Here" and "The Finer Things" was a huge smash. The Game sells records. People want to hear about the finer things, not some song about gas prices.
Ice Cube needs to get back on track and put Akon or T-Pain on one of his singles otherwise this album will flop like his last one. He's the one OG artist who is disapointing because he should know how to make adjustments -- you see E-40 make the adjustment, Warren G make the adjustment, cmon Cube, you've been in this game for 20, you should know how to make the move and sell some units and put the West in the limelight like he did with "Until We Rich" and "We Be Clubbin."
I think the West is starting to point itself in the right direction finally with hit records like E-40 coming through again ("U and Dat" was huge for him too not to long ago), Too Short, Snoop Dogg, and The Game.
The Game came through on his East Coast tribute track "Game's Pain" and the remix was solid. These artists are doing it. And people don't wanna hear this garbage that flops all the time like Sly Boogy, Crooked I, Bishop Lamont, etc.
That Bishop Lamont track "Grow Up" will flop for sure if that's his single. Nobody wants to hear that. Make a song with T-Pain, Rick Ross, Akon, DJ Khaled, or Ray J that people wanna hear. I'm tired of these rappers that cry all the time but don't make the proper adjustment. You know that a certain type of song isn't going to sell so why try to do it and then cry when it flops. These "New West" rappers for the most part need to take some notes from the season vets and follow in their footsteps.
I love the website but I think they should do more to promote the modern movement like put "Wake It Up" and "Crush" on the main page so people can download it.
I give Tha Realest props for doing a song with Ray J too. It's a pretty good track but probably won't get the huge exposure, but again, he's making a push in the right direction and following the hitmaking formula.
E-40 made the adjustment and now he's selling lots of records again, and now I just wanna give a big up to Warren G for dropping that useless song about the gas prices and the president and coming through with a hit record that people can bump and will move units. But if these guys keep making these dumb singles like "Dream Big," "Grow Up," etc. they are just gonna be tracks that end up in a few cats recycle bins. Big props and I think if they follow in the footsteps of the hitmakers, we can have the West shine once again.
:nawty:
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This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:
Ice Cube -- "My Footage"
01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound) * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs
Looks like a new age Peace Disc. ;D Cube would lose all his hardcore fans if he put some shit out like that.
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"Stand Tall" shouldnt be on the album? lol that tracks one of the dopest on there. You acting like you the one whos gonna be making money from his album if he puts all that bullshit on there, Ice Cube and T Pain would be complete shit, that would go against everything Cubes music stands for, you an idiot go back and listen to your top 40, that album looks like some rnb hip pop trash...
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"Stand Tall" shouldnt be on the album? lol that tracks one of the dopest on there. You acting like you the one whos gonna be making money from his album if he puts all that bullshit on there, Ice Cube and T Pain would be complete shit, that would go against everything Cubes music stands for, you an idiot go back and listen to your top 40, that album looks like some rnb hip pop trash...
are you kidding me? e-40 is collabing with t-pain and he scored a hit ("U and Dat") and now he's collabing with akon and he's got another huge hit ("Wake it Up"). Warren G is gonna do good with that "Crush" track with Ray J. Plies collabed with both t-pain and akon and now he's a household name. It's time for Ice Cube to step it up and move some units. We need him back in the clubs. He's so capable of making a huge album but he ain't gonna move no Lil Wayne units when he collabs with Butch Cassidy. Cmon man, where is your brain? T-Pain and Ice Cube has smash hit record written all over it. Ice Cube hasn't been in the clubs since he dropped "We be clubbin." Mike Jones didn't sell shit with that "64" track he did with Lil Eazy and Snoop, now he puts T-Pain on his record and bam -- "Cutty Buddy" is a smash hit. Makin a hit record is against what Cube stands for? What is that supposed to mean? The object of this game is to move units, make money, and keep your face out there -- he isn't making these records for the memories.
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"Stand Tall" shouldnt be on the album? lol that tracks one of the dopest on there. You acting like you the one whos gonna be making money from his album if he puts all that bullshit on there, Ice Cube and T Pain would be complete shit, that would go against everything Cubes music stands for, you an idiot go back and listen to your top 40, that album looks like some rnb hip pop trash...
are you kidding me? e-40 is collabing with t-pain and he scored a hit ("U and Dat") and now he's collabing with akon and he's got another huge hit ("Wake it Up"). Warren G is gonna do good with that "Crush" track with Ray J. Plies collabed with both t-pain and akon and now he's a household name. It's time for Ice Cube to step it up and move some units. We need him back in the clubs. He's so capable of making a huge album but he ain't gonna move no Lil Wayne units when he collabs with Butch Cassidy. Cmon man, where is your brain? T-Pain and Ice Cube has smash hit record written all over it. Ice Cube hasn't been in the clubs since he dropped "We be clubbin." Mike Jones didn't sell shit with that "64" track he did with Lil Eazy and Snoop, now he puts T-Pain on his record and bam -- "Cutty Buddy" is a smash hit. Makin a hit record is against what Cube stands for? What is that supposed to mean? The object of this game is to move units, make money, and keep your face out there -- he isn't making these records for the memories.
Cube has moved units, made money and stayed current doing pretty much the opposite of what you are talking about.
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02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) T-Pain on the hook
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs
Lil Wayne, Khaled, Rick Ross, Nelly, Fat Joe, Usher and T-Pain on a Cube album? :psych:
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I agree and disagree.
I dont think you always need Akon, T-Pain or anybody else to make a hit record.
It's just that some of these westcoast cats just dont know how to create hit records.
The only cat i think can make hit records is Clyde Carson 4 sure (2 Step, Doin Dat, California Sunshine and the other one) and maybe Jay Rock.
Because thats THE ONLY way Westcoast finna blow up. Thats how the South blew up....HIT SINGLES!!
They need to rap about SOMETHING with a good beat and shit. Basically music. Because mainstream fans dont wanna hear that "astronomical, mathematical" shit. I do. But they dont.
They just wanna enjoy the music itself.
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tires aint shit if you dont buy em for a car...
how is it starting to roll with niggas downloadin the wheels ;)
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itīs gettn worst, they need to change beats.that shit aint for tha west, its wack.
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I don't understand why the west is backin' of the synths...like come one, thats what made it in the first place. I think if you bring in those funky ass synth lines (like state of emergency on L.A.X) throw in a dirty south percussion...meaningful verses and hype as hooks.....you got your self the should-be-new-west.
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you're the reason why the west is rollling in the wrong direction, homie......SMH we need less fans like u, who are only into those bitch songs
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you're the reason why the west is rollling in the wrong direction, homie......SMH we need less fans like u, who are only into those bitch songs
I was getting ready to freak on you buddy..but then I realized you were talkin to the poster....
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Lol @ cube needs to step it up and ain't gon' move units comments! lol for real! How's going out and slangin' 600,000 copies of l.n.c.l independently at that not doing lil' wayne numbers. That's actually a safe comparison there. And his new album tha hottest album of tha summer so far. Game's prolly tied w/ him rite now but we'll see after week 1 sales if sales is what u care about!
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This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:
Ice Cube -- "My Footage"
01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound) * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs
LMAO!!
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I don't understand why the west is backin' of the synths...like come one, thats what made it in the first place. I think if you bring in those funky ass synth lines (like state of emergency on L.A.X) throw in a dirty south percussion...meaningful verses and hype as hooks.....you got your self the should-be-new-west.
Word, those synth whines just scream west coast too me, and Game showed on State Of Emergency how dope that shit can still sound, on Squeeze by Daz he got that shit sounding dope and up to date too...
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I don't understand why the west is backin' of the synths...like come one, thats what made it in the first place. I think if you bring in those funky ass synth lines (like state of emergency on L.A.X) throw in a dirty south percussion...meaningful verses and hype as hooks.....you got your self the should-be-new-west.
Word, those synth whines just scream west coast too me, and Game showed on State Of Emergency how dope that shit can still sound, on Squeeze by Daz he got that shit sounding dope and up to date too...
Yeah man...like even if the rhymes on a song like that are wack, it still has some intense replay value just cus of that. I might just have to make my own shit if no one else will. Big ups to game and daz for at least tryin'. Also check out "South Central" by S.C.C and even Last call by Outkast, they got that shit down.
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who cares about collabing with TPAIN!!!
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02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) T-Pain on the hook
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs
Lil Wayne, Khaled, Rick Ross, Nelly, Fat Joe, Usher and T-Pain on a Cube album? :psych:
Game works with most of these artists. Ice Cube should branch out. Cube and Nelly would sound dope. So many people would dance to that. Plus, Rick Ross is running Florida and his last album debuted at #1, put him on there. Cube and Nas would sound dope just like Game and Nas sound great. Cube and Wayne is a must collabo. Nas' collabos with DJ Khaled are off the hook. I want to see more of "War & Peace" type mainstream stuff from Cube. Kanye and Cube would be a dream collabo. That song Game did with Kanye was a hit. This is why Game sells way more records than Cube these days because he branches out and Cube doesn't. Nas and Game did that track with Chris Brown -- I think if Cube did one with Nas and Jagged Edge it would be off the hook. Plus, Game did a killer appearance on Chris Brown's album. Cube needs to go back to the "Until We Rich" and "We Be Clubbin" type songs and throw in the main artists like Nelly, Ross, Khaled, Wayne, Fat Joe, Nas, and some real R&B singers like Ray J, Jagged Edge, Usher, and Bobby Valentino. Cube and Ray J would be a tight westcoast collaboration just like Warren G and Ray J.
As far as the budget goes for this lineup, Game has been working with most of these artists and he has no problem with his budget -- in fact, he recorded over 200 tracks for L.A.X. and a lot of tracks with guest artists didn't even make the album because he had to squeeze it down to 18 cuts.
Also, Nelly and Game will sell way more records than Cube not necessarily because they are better but because they are smarter and collab with way better artists than Butch Cassidy. Nelly is going to be huge again with that Rick Ross single in rotation, and that Ashanti / Akon single, plus Fergie and Usher singles. Nelly and Game are the big dogs in hip hop and Cube is allowing himself to slip to minor league status.
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Im juss happy Wayne sold a milli and showed Hip-hop is still alive and well. Nas, Game and Cube will all sell too. But the West does look like its getting much better. Alot of South artists been showin respect to Cali and alot of West artists are dropping this year. Alot of solid albums dropping this year (Jeezy, T.I., Game....).
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This month has been one of the biggest for the west in a while. Heres the albums I have in my ride trying to here.
~187 aka Big Hutch~Fresh Out The Pen
~Ice Cube~Raw Footage
~Paris~Raw Footage
~The Game~Lax
~Daz~To the left
~Suga Free~Smell my finger
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Da threadstarter is a fuckin bitch ass Trick Eitha he been livin under a rock or hidin in his mommaz pussa cuz he makes things seem so simple. What yall don't undestand is most theeze niggas have enormous marketin budgets cuz they fuck with major record labels or corporations but they make 40 cents a fucken CD but we think they all ballin cuz we seem em on MTV on every other music video. The new west niggas gotta create they own hype ratha then doin the same old recycled bullshit we here on TV but the "industry heavies" don't support their shit and niggas like crooked, yaboy, jay rock, eastwood can't catch a fuckin break. Itz all about repetition we here Lil waynes lollipop or flowridas latest single like twice each hour on the radio and they music video probably 20 times daily. Tha more u listen to that shit, tha more people dig it.................simple marketing. Itz up to those Billionaire executives sitting up at universal, sony, etc on what shit gets played and what shit gets shelved and da Generation of kids and teens are told what type of music to like cuz everyone know 99 percent of "rap" showed on Mtv Muchmusic or whateva is pure bullshit. What attracts pop music?? catchy bubblegum beat and a catchy hook nobody give a fuck about flow lyrics etc dats why niggas like 50 cent lil wayne snoop makin da shit they do. I can't say I blame em cuz they sellin more records but dat shit ain't my cup of tea.
Kimbo OUT!!! 8)
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This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:
Ice Cube -- "My Footage"
01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound) * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs
LMAO!!
LOL Cube aint from the south lol and he'l never rap wit those guys
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collaborating with some of those artists to get hits sounds like selling out to me.
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Your post makes some sense...I agree with some of it, but not completely.
For one, it depends what the artist want to do...make an impact that will last more than just the 3 months the song is in rotation, or just make a flashpan hit that's here today and gone tomorrow. I feel that you don't have to make all club singles, but if you have a single, it has to have appeal..whether it's danceable, or somethin to ride to...and if it is somethin deeper or more lyrical, it has to try even harder to have that appeal in the way tracks like "One mic" and "Keep ya head up" did.
I feel that tracks like "Wake it up" and "U and dat" were more flashpan hits that had the elements the modern crowd likes, but these songs would not make a true E-40 fan's greatest hits album in the way that "Player's ball" and "Captain save a ho" would. It's like "ok, I wanna make a hit...let's go to T-Paikon and get a hot beat for radio and it'll help sell"....and truth is, most of these kinds of singles NEVER sell albums, and they damn sure aren't seen as classics in most cases, because it sounds forced and as if anybody coulda made a hit because the beat and hook is 80% of the song anyway.
That tracklist you listed is not an Ice Cube album, but a "layout for anybody who wants to sell hella records." Most classic albums aren't built off guest appearances unless it's producer driven like Dre's...and if it does have features, they are family-based features that keep the cohesive flow to the album. That album you listed, that has a feature on every track, could easily be Nelly, or T.I., or Luda, or Jim Jones' album, and it would damn near sound the same because the features and production would make the album, and not the artist.
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WOWWW brooo u are a grade A faggot.....now i know u didnt say crooked i needs to learn how to flow????????????????
ur post lost all its validity in my eyes crooked has the best flow in the fuckin world let alone the west lol.....so u want crooked to make some sell out shit? its not all about the radio....crooked is putting out quality music and people like u who think u gotta sell records to be hot are starting to fuckin piss me off. the radio is fuckin GARBAGE all u hear is gay ass soulja boy/hurricane chris type shit and real niggas aint tryin to hear that shit.....shit's not REAL hip hop ....its straight hip pop
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anotha thing nigga u talk bout Rick ross doin dis and doin dat but he got Def Jam and Jay Z backin his fat ass. He had promotion day in and day out on BET and guest appearances like Jigga. Wit dat type of marketing budget, tha corporate heavies were expectin dat nigga to go platinum but he didn't not even close so I would consider him a failure in a money makin standpoint but dumasses like u see him on MTV and BET and say "oh dis nigga be ballin he on TV now i gotta suck his dick." Nothin against Rick Ross he doin his thang and he out there in MIAMI where Kimbo's hood done be ya feel me? 8)