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The West is starting to roll and go the right direction
« on: August 17, 2008, 04:00:10 PM »
I just wanna give big props to Warren G for finally coming through on his new hit record that features Ray J titled "Crush."  Warren really put it down on this track and put in some major work and Ray J smashed it with the hook.  This is the type of music the West Coast needs to make to put it back on top and we're really finally starting to go the right direction.  And when I say finally, take a look at the type of music that the West has been making and the results.  Warren G's last single was a song about the president and the gas prices -- nobody wants to hear that shit in the club.  This new joint he has is on point and will move some major units.  Take a look at E-40 how he puts out a tight party track with Akon "Wake It Up."  This is the type of music that will sell.  Besides E-40, Snoop Dogg, The Game, and Too Short, the rest of the West needs to learn how to make a hit record in 2008.

Look at that garbage track by Crooked I "Dream Big."  First off, Game already made a track called "Dreams" so that concept has already been used.  And then he wasted an Akon hook on it and wonders why his music can't move units.  I really don't feel the new West except for a small handful of artists because they try to hard to be like the 1993 West Coast music and they can't get any radio spins or move units for the most part except for Game.  Crooked I needs to learn how to flow and make a track like Warren G "Crush" or E-40 "Wake It Up."  Too Short has been scoring hits left and right like "Shake That Monkey," "Blow The Whistle", "That Baby Don't Look Like Me," and "Life Of Da Party" with Snoop Dogg.  Snoop puts out hit records like "Sexual Seduction," "Beautiful," etc.  These "new West" cats are a joke.  Felli Fel will outsell Crooked I because he understands the formula -- "Bucc In Here" and "The Finer Things" was a huge smash.  The Game sells records.  People want to hear about the finer things, not some song about gas prices.

Ice Cube needs to get back on track and put Akon or T-Pain on one of his singles otherwise this album will flop like his last one.  He's the one OG artist who is disapointing because he should know how to make adjustments -- you see E-40 make the adjustment, Warren G make the adjustment, cmon Cube, you've been in this game for 20, you should know how to make the move and sell some units and put the West in the limelight like he did with "Until We Rich" and "We Be Clubbin."

I think the West is starting to point itself in the right direction finally with hit records like E-40 coming through again ("U and Dat" was huge for him too not to long ago), Too Short, Snoop Dogg, and The Game.

The Game came through on his East Coast tribute track "Game's Pain" and the remix was solid.  These artists are doing it.  And people don't wanna hear this garbage that flops all the time like Sly Boogy, Crooked I, Bishop Lamont, etc.

That Bishop Lamont track "Grow Up" will flop for sure if that's his single. Nobody wants to hear that.  Make a song with T-Pain, Rick Ross, Akon, DJ Khaled, or Ray J that people wanna hear.  I'm tired of these rappers that cry all the time but don't make the proper adjustment.  You know that a certain type of song isn't going to sell so why try to do it and then cry when it flops.  These "New West" rappers for the most part need to take some notes from the season vets and follow in their footsteps.

I love the website but I think they should do more to promote the modern movement like put "Wake It Up" and "Crush" on the main page so people can download it.

I give Tha Realest props for doing a song with Ray J too.  It's a pretty good track but probably won't get the huge exposure, but again, he's making a push in the right direction and following the hitmaking formula.

E-40 made the adjustment and now he's selling lots of records again, and now I just wanna give a big up to Warren G for dropping that useless song about the gas prices and the president and coming through with a hit record that people can bump and will move units.  But if these guys keep making these dumb singles like "Dream Big," "Grow Up," etc. they are just gonna be tracks that end up in a few cats recycle bins.  Big props and I think if they follow in the footsteps of the hitmakers, we can have the West shine once again.

 

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Re: The West is starting to roll and go the right direction
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2008, 04:05:15 PM »
Ba ba ba ba ba baaaaaammmmmm! Good post buddy. Sad but true, no one likes rap anymore...only that cribs on audio shit.
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Re: The West is starting to roll and go the right direction
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2008, 04:57:39 PM »
Jeezy, Ross, Wayne, and Game all move units and they are making raw hip-hop, but they understand the formula for hit records.  Jezzy goes out and puts R. Kelly on a single, Rick Ross puts R Kelly on a single and T-Pain on his second single, Game puts Keisha Cole, and Wayne puts Static Major and Babyface.  Certain rappers out there just have no clue.  I hate to say it, but Ice Cube is one of them. Here's a guy who dropped classics that sell like "We Be Clubbin" "U Know How We Do It," "Until We Rich," etc. and now he's gonna do the same thing Sly Boogy, Jayo Felony, XL Middleton, Glasses Malone, Problem, and Crooked I are doing -- putting out records with a losing formula that don't move units.

You can't dance to "Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It" -- it don't take a genius to say that record is gonna flop.  I like the idea of putting tracks on the album like the one with Game and WC and the "Do Ya Thang" is a good filler track. But, the album needs at least three formula standoff tracks and Cube is going to straight flop without it.

"It takes a nation," "Stand Tall," "Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It," and "Tommorrow," all need to come off the tracklist.  He needs to put someone that can blow on the hook on the first single.  Ray J and Keisha Cole are west coasters that he could go get that are right in his backyard.  Bobby Valentino would be a good choice to throw on a couple tracks.  He needs to pull Butch Cassidy off (he can't make modern-rap hooks) and Musiq Soulchild isn't a quality choice.  He should consider doing a track with Jagged Edge, Usher, or Ginuwine.  He could also put R. Kelly or Usher on a single.  I like the Young Jeezy guest appearance but where's DJ Khaled? He's hot right now throw him on there.  And how about a Cube and Akon and Cube and T-Pain collabo.  This would give his album a shot in the arm.  Even another track with Bone on the hook would be nice.  I just can't understand why he would release something that we know is going to flop hard.  Nobody wants to hear these political songs and come on Cube your 50 years old and you've been filthy rich for more than half your life, you're not out in the streets thugging, you're in the clubs poppin bottles of mo-mo and goose, making movies, and getting brain on the plane drinkin' champagne.  On the real, how are you going to listen to this guy tell you about the street life and how tough his life is having to spend all that money?

If you look at Roscoe, Kurupt's brother, he has the right idea.  He put Valentino on his hook "Buccle Up" and did another track with him called "This Is How We Do It."  If Roscoe got the right push, he could have a hit record.

But it's sad because Cube has got the push and he's just wasting more talent on an album that is going to straight flop when the dude has the talent to make something huge happen if he was to collab with T-Pain and make the adjustment.
 

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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2008, 05:16:09 PM »
How the fuck did cubes last album flop, going gold on indie is not a flop it was a huge fuckin success
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Re: The West is starting to roll and go the right direction
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2008, 05:20:44 PM »
Cube & T-Pain collabo? I personally wouldn't listen to that shit.
 

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 05:27:13 PM »
This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:

Ice Cube -- "My Footage"

01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound)  * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs
 

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Re: The West is starting to roll and go the right direction
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 05:42:37 PM »
This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:

Ice Cube -- "My Footage"

01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound)  * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs


LOL WHAT KIND OF BUDGET ARE U WORKIN ON?!! I MEAN IT WOULD BE DOPE BUT LETS BE SERIOUS HERE
 

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Re: The West is starting to roll and go the right direction
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 06:02:35 PM »
This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:

Ice Cube -- "My Footage"

01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound)  * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs

that track 14 sounds like a dope idea for cube and kanye but i think the rest of your list has WAY to many party tracks (five of them) i think 2 or 3 would be cool for cube
 

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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2008, 06:31:28 PM »
wat type ov nigga sit there and write all them songs and say how thy should be lol nigga u fuckin stoopid lol ice cube feat kanye lol shut tha fuck up u  a loser mann write all tht bullshit who cares west a be iight music is juss down period and tha west to b real we really aint got too many tht can spit like come on now niggaz like hot dollar gets deals tpain rappin azz nigga  get outta here tha west iz wack and we need to face it let sum ov these new younger cats in the game cuz we all make tha same type oov music on the westcoast and its played out now so b real wit yo self mann
 

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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2008, 07:01:13 PM »
album looks like an r&b album with all those r&b singers u got there
 

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Re: The West is starting to roll and go the right direction
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2008, 07:05:13 PM »
I just wanna give big props to Warren G for finally coming through on his new hit record that features Ray J titled "Crush."  Warren really put it down on this track and put in some major work and Ray J smashed it with the hook.  This is the type of music the West Coast needs to make to put it back on top and we're really finally starting to go the right direction.  And when I say finally, take a look at the type of music that the West has been making and the results.  Warren G's last single was a song about the president and the gas prices -- nobody wants to hear that shit in the club.  This new joint he has is on point and will move some major units.  Take a look at E-40 how he puts out a tight party track with Akon "Wake It Up."  This is the type of music that will sell.  Besides E-40, Snoop Dogg, The Game, and Too Short, the rest of the West needs to learn how to make a hit record in 2008.

Look at that garbage track by Crooked I "Dream Big."  First off, Game already made a track called "Dreams" so that concept has already been used.  And then he wasted an Akon hook on it and wonders why his music can't move units.  I really don't feel the new West except for a small handful of artists because they try to hard to be like the 1993 West Coast music and they can't get any radio spins or move units for the most part except for Game.  Crooked I needs to learn how to flow and make a track like Warren G "Crush" or E-40 "Wake It Up."  Too Short has been scoring hits left and right like "Shake That Monkey," "Blow The Whistle", "That Baby Don't Look Like Me," and "Life Of Da Party" with Snoop Dogg.  Snoop puts out hit records like "Sexual Seduction," "Beautiful," etc.  These "new West" cats are a joke.  Felli Fel will outsell Crooked I because he understands the formula -- "Bucc In Here" and "The Finer Things" was a huge smash.  The Game sells records.  People want to hear about the finer things, not some song about gas prices.

Ice Cube needs to get back on track and put Akon or T-Pain on one of his singles otherwise this album will flop like his last one.  He's the one OG artist who is disapointing because he should know how to make adjustments -- you see E-40 make the adjustment, Warren G make the adjustment, cmon Cube, you've been in this game for 20, you should know how to make the move and sell some units and put the West in the limelight like he did with "Until We Rich" and "We Be Clubbin."

I think the West is starting to point itself in the right direction finally with hit records like E-40 coming through again ("U and Dat" was huge for him too not to long ago), Too Short, Snoop Dogg, and The Game.

The Game came through on his East Coast tribute track "Game's Pain" and the remix was solid.  These artists are doing it.  And people don't wanna hear this garbage that flops all the time like Sly Boogy, Crooked I, Bishop Lamont, etc.

That Bishop Lamont track "Grow Up" will flop for sure if that's his single. Nobody wants to hear that.  Make a song with T-Pain, Rick Ross, Akon, DJ Khaled, or Ray J that people wanna hear.  I'm tired of these rappers that cry all the time but don't make the proper adjustment.  You know that a certain type of song isn't going to sell so why try to do it and then cry when it flops.  These "New West" rappers for the most part need to take some notes from the season vets and follow in their footsteps.

I love the website but I think they should do more to promote the modern movement like put "Wake It Up" and "Crush" on the main page so people can download it.

I give Tha Realest props for doing a song with Ray J too.  It's a pretty good track but probably won't get the huge exposure, but again, he's making a push in the right direction and following the hitmaking formula.

E-40 made the adjustment and now he's selling lots of records again, and now I just wanna give a big up to Warren G for dropping that useless song about the gas prices and the president and coming through with a hit record that people can bump and will move units.  But if these guys keep making these dumb singles like "Dream Big," "Grow Up," etc. they are just gonna be tracks that end up in a few cats recycle bins.  Big props and I think if they follow in the footsteps of the hitmakers, we can have the West shine once again.



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Re: The West is starting to roll and go the right direction
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2008, 08:02:51 PM »
This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:

Ice Cube -- "My Footage"

01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound)  * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs

Looks like a new age Peace Disc.  ;D Cube would lose all his hardcore fans if he put some shit out like that.
 

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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2008, 08:27:10 PM »
"Stand Tall" shouldnt be on the album? lol that tracks one of the dopest on there. You acting like you the one whos gonna be making money from his album if he puts all that bullshit on there, Ice Cube and T Pain would be complete shit, that would go against everything Cubes music stands for, you an idiot go back and listen to your top 40, that album looks like some rnb hip pop trash...
 

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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2008, 10:01:27 PM »
"Stand Tall" shouldnt be on the album? lol that tracks one of the dopest on there. You acting like you the one whos gonna be making money from his album if he puts all that bullshit on there, Ice Cube and T Pain would be complete shit, that would go against everything Cubes music stands for, you an idiot go back and listen to your top 40, that album looks like some rnb hip pop trash...

are you kidding me? e-40 is collabing with t-pain and he scored a hit ("U and Dat") and now he's collabing with akon and he's got another huge hit ("Wake it Up").  Warren G is gonna do good with that "Crush" track with Ray J.  Plies collabed with both t-pain and akon and now he's a household name.  It's time for Ice Cube to step it up and move some units.  We need him back in the clubs.  He's so capable of making a huge album but he ain't gonna move no Lil Wayne units when he collabs with Butch Cassidy.  Cmon man, where is your brain? T-Pain and Ice Cube has smash hit record written all over it.  Ice Cube hasn't been in the clubs since he dropped "We be clubbin."  Mike Jones didn't sell shit with that "64" track he did with Lil Eazy and Snoop, now he puts T-Pain on his record and bam -- "Cutty Buddy" is a smash hit.  Makin a hit record is against what Cube stands for? What is that supposed to mean?  The object of this game is to move units, make money, and keep your face out there -- he isn't making these records for the memories.
 

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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2008, 10:08:46 PM »
"Stand Tall" shouldnt be on the album? lol that tracks one of the dopest on there. You acting like you the one whos gonna be making money from his album if he puts all that bullshit on there, Ice Cube and T Pain would be complete shit, that would go against everything Cubes music stands for, you an idiot go back and listen to your top 40, that album looks like some rnb hip pop trash...

are you kidding me? e-40 is collabing with t-pain and he scored a hit ("U and Dat") and now he's collabing with akon and he's got another huge hit ("Wake it Up").  Warren G is gonna do good with that "Crush" track with Ray J.  Plies collabed with both t-pain and akon and now he's a household name.  It's time for Ice Cube to step it up and move some units.  We need him back in the clubs.  He's so capable of making a huge album but he ain't gonna move no Lil Wayne units when he collabs with Butch Cassidy.  Cmon man, where is your brain? T-Pain and Ice Cube has smash hit record written all over it.  Ice Cube hasn't been in the clubs since he dropped "We be clubbin."  Mike Jones didn't sell shit with that "64" track he did with Lil Eazy and Snoop, now he puts T-Pain on his record and bam -- "Cutty Buddy" is a smash hit.  Makin a hit record is against what Cube stands for? What is that supposed to mean?  The object of this game is to move units, make money, and keep your face out there -- he isn't making these records for the memories.

Cube has moved units, made money and stayed current doing pretty much the opposite of what you are talking about.