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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: GangstaBoogy on August 27, 2008, 03:11:39 PM
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Lmao.
Man is Dre every gonna speak on his relationship with Game?
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lol i saw dat on da album... game needs to hook up wit dre for detox.
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dre doesn't want to fuck wit game. he needs to get over it.
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dre's fucked over so many people, game aint the first lol, i would of much rather preferred to see joel ortiz with dre then game and dre again. .
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Game don't need DRE he's got Ervin EP Pope... plus DJ KHALIL makes better beats than DRE...
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Game don't need DRE he's got Ervin EP Pope... plus DJ KHALIL makes better beats than DRE...
loads of producers make better beats then dre, if your gonna work with dre, you need him to exec produce your album, or else he just gives you a shit beat he spent no time on .
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Game don't need DRE he's got Ervin EP Pope... plus DJ KHALIL makes better beats than DRE...
loads of producers make better beats then dre, if your gonna work with dre, you need him to exec produce your album, or else he just gives you a shit beat he spent no time on .
DRE shouldnt executive produce shit... He really aint that good of an Exec to begin with...
and while some other people make better beats than DRE, DJ KHALIL is the BEST out right now... He's the new DRE and AFTERMATH STAFF head producer along with HI TEK....
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Game don't need DRE he's got Ervin EP Pope... plus DJ KHALIL makes better beats than DRE...
loads of producers make better beats then dre, if your gonna work with dre, you need him to exec produce your album, or else he just gives you a shit beat he spent no time on .
DRE shouldnt executive produce shit... He really aint that good of an Exec to begin with...
LMAO at this idiot
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DRE shouldnt executive produce shit... He really aint that good of an Exec to begin with...
He executive produced a lot of classic albums.
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DRE shouldnt executive produce shit... He really aint that good of an Exec to begin with...
He executive produced a lot of classic albums.
you damn right !!!!!! albums that woulda sounded like shit had he not executive produced them.
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dre's fucked over so many people, game aint the first lol, i would of much rather preferred to see joel ortiz with dre then game and dre again. .
Dre did not fuck anybody over . Dr dre did not fuck game over . game fucked game over because Game did not do what he was told to do by Dr dre . Dr dre was the boss & game would not listen. dr dre told game to shut his mouth & stop going at 50 cent & g-unit . game did not listen to boss.game owes eveything to dr dre & 5o cent . games big headednesss fucked him over .so is al gamesl faullt & he should have followed orders by the boss Dr dre.
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dre's fucked over so many people, game aint the first lol, i would of much rather preferred to see joel ortiz with dre then game and dre again. .
Dre did not fuck anybody over . Dr dre did not fuck game over . game fucked game over because Game did not do what he was told to do by Dr dre . Dr dre was the boss & game would not listen. dr dre told game to shut his mouth & stop going at 50 cent & g-unit . game did not listen to boss.game owes eveything to dr dre & 5o cent . games big headednesss fucked him over .so is al gamesl faullt & he should have followed orders by the boss Dr dre.
are you kidding me? game is just supposed to be some puppet that dre controls? give me a break -- the game is way bigger than dre if anything. dre is a forgotten producer who hip hop has passed up. him and suge ran the 1990's with death row and a slew of other great producers like johnny j and daz, no doubt. but the fans of today don't care nor are they waiting for this album. only hardcore fans on forums and westcoast fans. do you think the south is waiting for dre beats? LOL. The Game is working with all these cats from the east to the south back to the west and they ain't waitin for no dre beats. The Game has dropped 3 platinum plus albums since 2003 and Dre only has two solo albums. DJ Khaled and Mannie Fresh and a slew of others are way bigger to modern hip hop then dre. unless you have been living under a rock, you think dre is great in post 2003 hip hop. yes, everybody "forgot about dre."
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Game don't need DRE he's got Ervin EP Pope... plus DJ KHALIL makes better beats than DRE...
loads of producers make better beats then dre, if your gonna work with dre, you need him to exec produce your album, or else he just gives you a shit beat he spent no time on .
I agree 100% Look at how he did Mack 10 with that "Hate In Yo Eyes" single and Warren G with "Lookin' At You" -- both of these were 5 minute busts for production. Look at that Jay-Z single he produced on "Kingdom Come" and that Snoop single he dropped on The Blue Carpet Treatment ("imagine"). The Knoc'Turnal songs he did were mostly garbage. Truth Hurtz and Busta Rhymes was a bust.
I like some of Dre's work on his solo albums but his 1990's work was better overall even though he had some huge hits in early 2000 with eminem and 50 ("in da club"). but he always has ghost producers like mel man and rumors always swirl about other people assisting him like scott storch and in-house death row producers on "the chronic." he's done some great works but Pac is 100% right he takes way too long to drop a beat. look at the way the top producers put hits out left and right and dre just won't do that. he needs to live about 300 years to do as many beats a a pharrell, lil jon, or scott storch. dre is still trying to produce early 2000's style when the rap game has moved in a complete different direction and more toward hard southern, techno, and khaled/akon/t-pain hits. if he's really the best, then create an album that would swing the mainstream back to the west like the g-funk era was running it in the 1990's after chronic dropped.
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are you kidding me? game is just supposed to be some puppet that dre controls? give me a break -- the game is way bigger than dre if anything. dre is a forgotten producer who hip hop has passed up. him and suge ran the 1990's with death row and a slew of other great producers like johnny j and daz, no doubt. but the fans of today don't care nor are they waiting for this album. only hardcore fans on forums and westcoast fans. do you think the south is waiting for dre beats? LOL. The Game is working with all these cats from the east to the south back to the west and they ain't waitin for no dre beats. The Game has dropped 3 platinum plus albums since 2003 and Dre only has two solo albums. DJ Khaled and Mannie Fresh and a slew of others are way bigger to modern hip hop then dre. unless you have been living under a rock, you think dre is great in post 2003 hip hop. yes, everybody "forgot about dre."
Is Game supposed to be a puppet? No. Is Game supposed to keep a promise to his boss/mentor if he makes it? Sounds fair to me. If you're on the team, you follow the chain of command. Talking about how Suge ran things. You think Suge had artists disobeying him? Fuck no. He'd slap artists up for using his phone. I'm not saying it's how a label should be run but that's how it went down. You go against what your boss says, you're gonna be gone.
People don't care about Detox or Dre? What are you basing this on? It seems like anytime they interview anyone associated with Dre from 50 to Snoop to Game, the question of Detox comes up. You are right about one thing though.
unless you have been living under a rock, you think dre is great in post 2003 hip hop.
True spit. People who don't think that have been living under a rock. I am curious about the 3 plantinum plus albums since 2003 that Game has dropped though. I count one multi-platinum album since '05. I've seen no record of Doctor's Advocate getting platinum certified and LAX definetly hasn't gotten there yet. Are we gonna compare classic albums or record sales? If it's classics, Dre wins. If it's record sales, they both get beat by 50 Cent. And I don't hear nobody talking about Khaled and Mannie Fresh like they do about Dre so where is that talk coming from?
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What's DJ Khaleed's big hit songs anyway? What makes him "bigger"? I'm just wondering.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/QK7juZHLqLM
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On Games new dvd After tHe Math i think he explains what happened with Dre a lil bit
In Dres interview like 6 months ago or so maybe less anyway he said he didnt get involved in the feud and it was between Game & 50 and he told both em to call him when they talk again and make some money he said something like that
I think its politics and business, plus 50 has a bigger following and is a better song writer than Game, and I hate 50 but Game is just a rapper who tears people apart but cant tell a story as well as others
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On Games new dvd After tHe Math i think he explains what happened with Dre a lil bit
In Dres interview like 6 months ago or so maybe less anyway he said he didnt get involved in the feud and it was between Game & 50 and he told both em to call him when they talk again and make some money he said something like that
I think its politics and business, plus 50 has a bigger following and is a better song writer than Game, and I hate 50 but Game is just a rapper who tears people apart but cant tell a story as well as others
but Dre still produced for 50 on Curtis
Dre is 50's bitch
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On Games new dvd After tHe Math i think he explains what happened with Dre a lil bit
In Dres interview like 6 months ago or so maybe less anyway he said he didnt get involved in the feud and it was between Game & 50 and he told both em to call him when they talk again and make some money he said something like that
I think its politics and business, plus 50 has a bigger following and is a better song writer than Game, and I hate 50 but Game is just a rapper who tears people apart but cant tell a story as well as others
cant tell a story as well as others? lmao
i agree 50 as a songwriter >>> game
but for you to say game "cant tell a story as well as others" is hilarious.
song writing doesnt mean = tell a story.
but you are right 50 is a way better songwriter than Game.
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perhaps you have a point maybe i worded it wrong
I'm down with Game i copped all his cds straight away and think LAX is alot better than some are giving credit for.
to the clowns who say he name drops or imitates others flow at times, well thats the point. His THE GAME, he talks about the Game raps about the Game he raps about events in hip hop others refuse to touch on, he refers to the Game thus the point of his name dropping. People dont understand that concept.
Yeh Dre produced on Curtis because 50's on Aftermath, and The Game isn't. I think 50 was the main catlyst behind Game being kicked off Aftermath. and 50 has in past sold more than Game, throw in the fact he has some artists who can sell near gold and it boils down to more records sold than Game brings to the table, which for Irvine and somewhat with Dre, means more money, thats what it boils down too.
I still think Dre got some love for Game but politically he cant fuck with him coz of 50 and probably coz Game causes trouble at times
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perhaps you have a point maybe i worded it wrong
I'm down with Game i copped all his cds straight away and think LAX is alot better than some are giving credit for.
to the clowns who say he name drops or imitates others flow at times, well thats the point. His THE GAME, he talks about the Game raps about the Game he raps about events in hip hop others refuse to touch on, he refers to the Game thus the point of his name dropping. People dont understand that concept.
Yeh Dre produced on Curtis because 50's on Aftermath, and The Game isn't. I think 50 was the main catlyst behind Game being kicked off Aftermath. and 50 has in past sold more than Game, throw in the fact he has some artists who can sell near gold and it boils down to more records sold than Game brings to the table, which for Irvine and somewhat with Dre, means more money, thats what it boils down too.
I still think Dre got some love for Game but politically he cant fuck with him coz of 50 and probably coz Game causes trouble at times
real talk
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Game don't need DRE he's got Ervin EP Pope... plus DJ KHALIL makes better beats than DRE...
loads of producers make better beats then dre, if your gonna work with dre, you need him to exec produce your album, or else he just gives you a shit beat he spent no time on .
DRE shouldnt executive produce shit... He really aint that good of an Exec to begin with...
and while some other people make better beats than DRE, DJ KHALIL is the BEST out right now... He's the new DRE and AFTERMATH STAFF head producer along with HI TEK....
I thought back in deathrow dayz suge was a better exec producer.
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perhaps you have a point maybe i worded it wrong
I'm down with Game i copped all his cds straight away and think LAX is alot better than some are giving credit for.
to the clowns who say he name drops or imitates others flow at times, well thats the point. His THE GAME, he talks about the Game raps about the Game he raps about events in hip hop others refuse to touch on, he refers to the Game thus the point of his name dropping. People dont understand that concept.
Yeh Dre produced on Curtis because 50's on Aftermath, and The Game isn't. I think 50 was the main catlyst behind Game being kicked off Aftermath. and 50 has in past sold more than Game, throw in the fact he has some artists who can sell near gold and it boils down to more records sold than Game brings to the table, which for Irvine and somewhat with Dre, means more money, thats what it boils down too.
I still think Dre got some love for Game but politically he cant fuck with him coz of 50 and probably coz Game causes trouble at times
yeah homie i agree
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Mannie Fresh is the most consistent producer in rap. He has been producing mainstream hit records since 1997 and pumps out beats at a solid rate over a long time span. Even westcoast cats like Mack 10, Glasses Malone, Tha Dogg Pound, and TQ run to him for beats. Mannie and Baby are the only label to stay relevant over a 10 year period when labels like Death Row, Bad Boy, and No Limit were all the biggest in the game at one time and had great runs but all came to an end.
All our best producers were in the 1990s -- cats like Dr. Dre, Daz (produced a lot of All Eyez On Me), Johnny J, Blaqtovin, Warren G, Kurt "Cobain", Soopafly, DJ Quik, etc. -- the West doesn't have any major known producers anymore except for Felli Fel, he's the only one that's dropped anything relevant ("The Finer Things" and "Bucc In Here")
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Mannie Fresh is the most consistent producer in rap. He has been producing mainstream hit records since 1997 and pumps out beats at a solid rate over a long time span. Even westcoast cats like Mack 10, Glasses Malone, Tha Dogg Pound, and TQ run to him for beats. Mannie and Baby are the only label to stay relevant over a 10 year period when labels like Death Row, Bad Boy, and No Limit were all the biggest in the game at one time and had great runs but all came to an end.
All our best producers were in the 1990s -- cats like Dr. Dre, Daz (produced a lot of All Eyez On Me), Johnny J, Blaqtovin, Warren G, Kurt "Cobain", Soopafly, DJ Quik, etc. -- the West doesn't have any major known producers anymore except for Felli Fel, he's the only one that's dropped anything relevant ("The Finer Things" and "Bucc In Here")
smh at mannie fresh being the most consistent whens the last time he had a hit? 2006? and before that? maybe 2001 or something.
that nigga dope but aint consistant lie that.
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iīd rather hear a "bad dre beat" than this gay-southern-club shit.
but yeah..dre kinda fell off deez days.
why?because the sound is dead.if dre gets back 2 west coast shit, yall cant fuck with him and yall know that.
they all need to fuck wit people like dr.dre, johnny j, qd III, doug rasheed,dj quik, daz,etc.
why the fuck is hi-tek, khalil,etc. on west coast albums?i aint hatin but cīmon man...
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dre's fucked over so many people, game aint the first lol, i would of much rather preferred to see joel ortiz with dre then game and dre again. .
Dre did not fuck anybody over . Dr dre did not fuck game over . game fucked game over because Game did not do what he was told to do by Dr dre . Dr dre was the boss & game would not listen. dr dre told game to shut his mouth & stop going at 50 cent & g-unit . game did not listen to boss.game owes eveything to dr dre & 5o cent . games big headednesss fucked him over .so is al gamesl faullt & he should have followed orders by the boss Dr dre.
are you kidding me? game is just supposed to be some puppet that dre controls? give me a break -- the game is way bigger than dre if anything. dre is a forgotten producer who hip hop has passed up. him and suge ran the 1990's with death row and a slew of other great producers like johnny j and daz, no doubt. but the fans of today don't care nor are they waiting for this album. only hardcore fans on forums and westcoast fans. do you think the south is waiting for dre beats? LOL. The Game is working with all these cats from the east to the south back to the west and they ain't waitin for no dre beats. The Game has dropped 3 platinum plus albums since 2003 and Dre only has two solo albums. DJ Khaled and Mannie Fresh and a slew of others are way bigger to modern hip hop then dre. unless you have been living under a rock, you think dre is great in post 2003 hip hop. yes, everybody "forgot about dre."
without DR. DRE there would no game,idiot.so gmae owes his whole live to dr dre because game would have never made it or been shit without dre & 50 cent . that is fact because game would have nevered ben signed & never as big without DR dre & 50 cnet . g-unit was at top of the game when the put game on g-unit records & because of that & how big of name dr dre was .they made game famous & people listen
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On Games new dvd After tHe Math i think he explains what happened with Dre a lil bit
In Dres interview like 6 months ago or so maybe less anyway he said he didnt get involved in the feud and it was between Game & 50 and he told both em to call him when they talk again and make some money he said something like that
I think its politics and business, plus 50 has a bigger following and is a better song writer than Game, and I hate 50 but Game is just a rapper who tears people apart but cant tell a story as well as others
but Dre still produced for 50 on Curtis
Dre is 50's bitch
because 50 cent listenes to dre dre & did more for dr dre
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dre's fucked over so many people, game aint the first lol, i would of much rather preferred to see joel ortiz with dre then game and dre again. .
Dre did not fuck anybody over . Dr dre did not fuck game over . game fucked game over because Game did not do what he was told to do by Dr dre . Dr dre was the boss & game would not listen. dr dre told game to shut his mouth & stop going at 50 cent & g-unit . game did not listen to boss.game owes eveything to dr dre & 5o cent . games big headednesss fucked him over .so is al gamesl faullt & he should have followed orders by the boss Dr dre.
are you kidding me? game is just supposed to be some puppet that dre controls? give me a break -- the game is way bigger than dre if anything. dre is a forgotten producer who hip hop has passed up. him and suge ran the 1990's with death row and a slew of other great producers like johnny j and daz, no doubt. but the fans of today don't care nor are they waiting for this album. only hardcore fans on forums and westcoast fans. do you think the south is waiting for dre beats? LOL. The Game is working with all these cats from the east to the south back to the west and they ain't waitin for no dre beats. The Game has dropped 3 platinum plus albums since 2003 and Dre only has two solo albums. DJ Khaled and Mannie Fresh and a slew of others are way bigger to modern hip hop then dre. unless you have been living under a rock, you think dre is great in post 2003 hip hop. yes, everybody "forgot about dre."
without DR. DRE there would no game,idiot.so gmae owes his whole live to dr dre because game would have never made it or been shit without dre & 50 cent . that is fact because game would have nevered ben signed & never as big without DR dre & 50 cnet . g-unit was at top of the game when the put game on g-unit records & because of that & how big of name dr dre was .they made game famous & people listen
Give me a break. First off, a little history lesson -- there were tons of labels looking to sign The Game. The Game has this little thing called TALENT. If he wouldn't have blown up with Aftermath, he would have blown up with Bad Boy -- Puffy was all about signing him. Def Jam was looking at him and Death Row didn't act on his mixtape. He did a track with The New Edition titled "Hot 2 Nite Remix" where he's saying "Bad Boy" on the track. Diddy loves The Game and he almost damn near was on Bad Boy Entertainment. If he wouldn't have blown up on Aftermath he would have on Bad Boy or another top label. So check your facts next time before you ride Doctor Dre's nutsack.
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And when was the last time Diddy made some one a star, excluding those gay boy and girl bands ? As far as the other labels, even Game says so himself that they passed him: I was gassed up, Murder Inc., Roc-A-Fella passed up or And took my demo to Suge and he ain't sign me...
And I'm not even defending Dre; Dre signs artist to his label all the time but it's very rare that they actually get released. Everybody can sign to a label, untill your album is on the shelf, you haven't done shit. That's why Game should be thanking 50 all the time and not Dre. His 2nd album should actually be called "50's Advocate". It would've made more sense.
And don't get me wrong: Game is producing much better music than 50 since 07'.
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And don't get me wrong: Game is producing much better music than 50 since 07'.
since 07? hahahahaha
you always on 50's dick
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Whatever dude, either reply with something normal or don't bother. Speaking on who's on who's dick, you've clearly shown your face with your monthly "fuck Dre" threads, not to mention that some of your comments about Game are laughable. But let's not get into all of that.
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Whatever dude, either reply with something normal or don't bother. Speaking on who's on who's dick, you've clearly shown your face with your monthly "fuck Dre" threads, not to mention that some of your comments about Game are laughable. But let's not get into all of that.
let's get into it, you pulling the "game stan" card every time you got nothing say
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a couple of thoughts on this thread:
game and dre should make amends, and work on something together. it would be humongous...
even more humongous if game and 50 got together, squashed shit and did a track or two
on a dre beat. for real. that'd be beast satus.
i don't speak much on industry politics because i don't know these men personally and could really care less,
but i think i really do wanna hear game over dre beats again. his vocal performance was a lot stronger
with dr. dre guiding him too, his lyrics have gotten way iller since then too.
also, for people saying dre isn't relevant, yall are bugging. the mere fact that half the threads
on this messageboard are about dre is proof enough. plus i read recently that he made over 15 million
last year doing jack shit, how? his back catalog. im not sure if it was in 06 or 07, but 2001 re entered
the british charts and was selling out there again. come on dawg, an album that came out in 99 selling
enough to be on the charts in 07? what hip hop producer/artist can claim that?
i aint never heard a mannie fresh beat that wasn't on point.
and kalil and hi-tek, knotts...these dudes are all better beat makers then dre.
but listen close all these foos are dr. dre's sons. all their beats scream of
dr. dre's old style.
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you guys talking about game fucking with him on detox, lol like that ever comes...
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Give me a break. First off, a little history lesson -- there were tons of labels looking to sign The Game. The Game has this little thing called TALENT. If he wouldn't have blown up with Aftermath, he would have blown up with Bad Boy -- Puffy was all about signing him. Def Jam was looking at him and Death Row didn't act on his mixtape. He did a track with The New Edition titled "Hot 2 Nite Remix" where he's saying "Bad Boy" on the track. Diddy loves The Game and he almost damn near was on Bad Boy Entertainment. If he wouldn't have blown up on Aftermath he would have on Bad Boy or another top label. So check your facts next time before you ride Doctor Dre's nutsack.
Talent doesn't break an artist these days. Let's be real. There's a gang of talented artists who can't get a deal like that. I really don't want to turn this into hate on Game thing but the guy caught the opportunity of a lifetime. You think people just checked for him because he was a new West Coast artist on a major label? Nothing to do with the fact that he was Dr. Dre's new protege from Compton? Nothing to do with the fact that he was fucking with G-Unit when they were the hottest selling label out? Yes, talent has something to do with it but the way an artist is packaged has even more.
Like homie before said, who has Puffy put out for solo acts in the last seven years?
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Words for Game: Can a nigga learn how to spell blood!!!!!
Seriously, the whole thank you portion of LAX made my head hurt. I wonder how people like this can even get a deal.
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they all need to fuck wit people like dr.dre, johnny j, qd III, doug rasheed,dj quik, daz,etc.
why the fuck is hi-tek, khalil,etc. on west coast albums?i aint hatin but cīmon man...
Khalil and Hi-Tek has produced much better songs than these "west people" in few years...and Daz has fallen the fuck off, nobody can argue with that. Stop living those death row years, maybe if it was +10 years ago.
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Whatever dude, either reply with something normal or don't bother. Speaking on who's on who's dick, you've clearly shown your face with your monthly "fuck Dre" threads, not to mention that some of your comments about Game are laughable. But let's not get into all of that.
let's get into it, you pulling the "game stan" card every time you got nothing say
I do ? It was you that called me that I was on 50's dick out of nowhere.