West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on November 16, 2008, 01:09:44 AM
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Us fans look more for the production credits of an album then the features or what the artists has done on the album.
I see way too many times and I do it myself sometimes where I'll check out an album solely on the fact that my favorite producer made a track on it. I may end up liking the album in the long run but only because I checked it out first for a Dae One beat or a JRK beat etc..
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It's natural to do that. I do it alot if it is a collabo between 2 artists that I never knew worked with each other before. But as far as letting it affect me or influence me from listening to the whole album, nah.
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So your saying that you've never heard say a new Snoop album is coming out and you or someone else is like.. hey who's producing.. or is Quik on that?
I seem to see or hear more people interested in the producers now days then features. Do they have a Dre track, Storch track etc..
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So your saying that you've never heard say a new Snoop album is coming out and you or someone else is like.. hey who's producing.. or is Quik on that?
I seem to see or hear more people interested in the producers now days then features. Do they have a Dre track, Storch track etc..
Nah when you put it like that, I say ok cool Snoop is dropping a album. Once I get it, then I would look to see who he worked with and even then I still give the music a chance and listen to it before formulating a opinion.
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why is it sad??? producers r part of hip hop too and if they dope and r gonna be on a...example snoop album, i'll check for producers first..the only reason i bought that snoop paid the cost to be the boss was because i heard primo was gonna make some beats for it...and he did, the best track on there...to me......so yea i find my self sayin that alot...but then again i'm a producer myself..lol...
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Producers were underrated at the time, people didn't care, they wanted dope beat and they weren't interested no more. I'm glad to see a lot of people cares about the production credits, it's alright!
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Producers were underrated at the time, people didn't care, they wanted dope beat and they weren't interested no more. I'm glad to see a lot of people cares about the production credits, it's alright!
Producers aren't what they used to be anymore though. A real producer works with the artist in the studio. These days J.R. e-mails a beat to 50 Cent and then 50 and the engineer record the track in the studio.
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Producers aren't what they used to be anymore though. A real producer works with the artist in the studio. These days J.R. e-mails a beat to 50 Cent and then 50 and the engineer record the track in the studio.
Yeah, this is weak, you're right. It ain't got right energy. But the music which I listen to: Madvillain (MF Doom & Madlib), Blaqkout project (I hope I will), Atmosphere (Slug & Ant) and a lot of more, I think they aren't into some email shit. I know that both Doom & Madlib were locked up in the studio, when they were makin' that album. I see some photos from their session.
But you're right that a lot of folks are lazy as fuck and do this email shit, which is worse than the case 1 of course.
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I actually don't give a shit who does the production, I just care that the production is good. I hate features, I think an artist should know how to pull his own weight and stop thinkins music will be special because he puts Lil Wayne, Akon or T-Pain on it because it just makes their songs sound like everyone elses.
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Us fans look more for the production credits of an album then the features or what the artists has done on the album.
I see way too many times and I do it myself sometimes where I'll check out an album solely on the fact that my favorite producer made a track on it. I may end up liking the album in the long run but only because I checked it out first for a Dae One beat or a JRK beat etc..
Bless you... I do the same thing. Especially with newer artists I tend to look for production value before I purchase or download (mixtapes)....
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we have been conditioned to do so, but i love to find music i can appreciate without being familiar with the artist or producers, that makes for a great listening experience to me, there is nothing like being shocked into liking something, i mean like having to say that's tight who is that? and when you hear the name it still doesnt ring a bell
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The producers are half the album... therefore they should be given half the attention.
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the producers may be more than half the album just like producers of tv shows but credit isnt alway divided up in that manner when you have a collective group with different tasks working toward a common goal, artist are intended to shine and the producers work is there to help them do so, producers are or should be more concearned about the fair pay than the credit, although i understand everyone wanting to be noticed for their input
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I actually don't give a shit who does the production, I just care that the production is good. I hate features, I think an artist should know how to pull his own weight and stop thinkins music will be special because he puts Lil Wayne, Akon or T-Pain on it because it just makes their songs sound like everyone elses.
co sign...like ppl have so many feat on the album it aint look like a solo album
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The producers are half the album... therefore they should be given half the attention.
co sign
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I really don't care if Snoop has a Quik beat etc. etc. As long as it's dope, I like it.
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it's not sad
I can think of tons of albums by good rappers that had weak production
therefore the cd sucked because it's boring
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Okay maybe I stated myself wrong... no it's not sad that we are looking for the producers.. cause yes producers deserve alot more credit then they get. But my point is.. to me it seems like people look at a cd more for the production credits then for the artists ability. For one.. just look at the club scene.. it's not always the artist that make a hit.. it's the freaking beat. You can ask some average girl and she may not know the name of the artist or the producer but she likes the beat.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is beats and producers are carrying projects more than they used to. Back in the day it was the artists lyrics, storytelling etc.. not so much the beat.
So now days.. instead of always checking for the artists, more people are looking for who produced on that.
I've seen people be like.. man I don't like that feature.. I don't like the tracklisting... but hey.. there's a primo beat.. I'll check that one out.
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Okay maybe I stated myself wrong... no it's not sad that we are looking for the producers.. cause yes producers deserve alot more credit then they get. But my point is.. to me it seems like people look at a cd more for the production credits then for the artists ability. For one.. just look at the club scene.. it's not always the artist that make a hit.. it's the freaking beat. You can ask some average girl and she may not know the name of the artist or the producer but she likes the beat.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is beats and producers are carrying projects more than they used to. Back in the day it was the artists lyrics, storytelling etc.. not so much the beat.
So now days.. instead of always checking for the artists, more people are looking for who produced on that.
I've seen people be like.. man I don't like that feature.. I don't like the tracklisting... but hey.. there's a primo beat.. I'll check that one out.
Beats are carrying albums more so because the mcs rapping on it can't rock the beat right. There are a gang of weak mcs that got deep pockets to get some dope producers.
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I actually don't give a shit who does the production, I just care that the production is good. I hate features, I think an artist should know how to pull his own weight and stop thinkins music will be special because he puts Lil Wayne, Akon or T-Pain on it because it just makes their songs sound like everyone elses.
yea for real... i remember section 8 hat like 2 feats... cube and techniec.. and eiht dident have they names all over the front... and its one of the best west albums i ever herd... when a album has a feat o nevery track... u know its to bring more peopel to buy the album.. games new album was litered and not one decent feat... bullshit
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I don't get it. I mean we check out artist cuz we're familiar with them...why not do it with producers? I know guys like JR and Quik producers bangers so its natural for me to check them out. Where as I know Darren Vegas fuckin sucks so if I see his name I'm more likely to skip it for now and check it later.
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Okay maybe I stated myself wrong... no it's not sad that we are looking for the producers.. cause yes producers deserve alot more credit then they get. But my point is.. to me it seems like people look at a cd more for the production credits then for the artists ability. For one.. just look at the club scene.. it's not always the artist that make a hit.. it's the freaking beat. You can ask some average girl and she may not know the name of the artist or the producer but she likes the beat.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is beats and producers are carrying projects more than they used to. Back in the day it was the artists lyrics, storytelling etc.. not so much the beat.
So now days.. instead of always checking for the artists, more people are looking for who produced on that.
I've seen people be like.. man I don't like that feature.. I don't like the tracklisting... but hey.. there's a primo beat.. I'll check that one out.
True
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It's natural to do that. I do it alot if it is a collabo between 2 artists that I never knew worked with each other before. But as far as letting it affect me or influence me from listening to the whole album, nah.
yeah it's not necessarily sad.
unless prejudgements lead to sleeping on certain tracks/albums/artists