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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: GangstaBoogy on November 21, 2008, 01:52:57 PM
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The Clippers have acquired forward Zach Randolph and guard Mardy Collins from the New York Knicks for shooting guard Cuttino Mobley and forward Tim Thomas.
http://realgm.com/
The Knicks are on fire. If they really land Lebron I guess all the drama was worth it.
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Well, if they have enough cap room to sign LeBron, what's in for him if the roster flat out sucks? He'd rather stay in Cleveland then. Fuck that Nike bullshit.
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what's in for him if the roster flat out sucks?
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Because going to New York = more money, more publicity, and you can hate me for saying this - but thats really all he wants. Lebron said his goal is to become the first billionaire athlete, not to win a ring.
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^If he was smart, he'd realize that winning a championship would get him there faster.
Honestly, I like this trade for the Clippers...They have enough swingmen style chuckers on the squad and Mobley was eating their minutes... although Randolph is soft for a big, the Clippers needed some improved scoring around the post:
PG Baron Davis...Eric Gordon/Jason Hart
SG Ricky Davis...Mardy Collins/Mike Taylor
SF Al Thornton...Steve Novak
PF Zack Randolph...Brian Skinner/Paul Davis
C Chris Kaman...Marcus Camby/Deandre Jordan
Dunleavy can do some damage with this line-up, if he can work it right.
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Clippers are tanking for Blake Griffin already? Z-Bo is a clear path to the lottery.
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Because going to New York = more money, more publicity, and you can hate me for saying this - but thats really all he wants. Lebron said his goal is to become the first billionaire athlete, not to win a ring.
That's almost like saying he's not a real human being. I understand he might be fiending for his fame more than others (or show it off more than others), but playing with a bunch of scrubs in NY, just for the sake of it being NY, instead of going for any rings? Never going for a Finals MVP in your career? Come on now, nobody would do that.
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^If he was smart, he'd realize that winning a championship would get him there faster.
Honestly, I like this trade for the Clippers...They have enough swingmen style chuckers on the squad and Mobley was eating their minutes... although Randolph is soft for a big, the Clippers needed some improved scoring around the post:
PG Baron Davis...Eric Gordon/Jason Hart
SG Ricky Davis...Mardy Collins/Mike Taylor
SF Al Thornton...Steve Novak
PF Zack Randolph...Brian Skinner/Paul Davis
C Chris Kaman...Marcus Camby/Deandre Jordan
Dunleavy can do some damage with this line-up, if he can work it right.
Yeah that is a decent squad right there.
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i really hope the clipps can get it together, that's too good of a line up to be bottom feeding.
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^If he was smart, he'd realize that winning a championship would get him there faster.
Honestly, I like this trade for the Clippers...They have enough swingmen style chuckers on the squad and Mobley was eating their minutes... although Randolph is soft for a big, the Clippers needed some improved scoring around the post:
PG Baron Davis...Eric Gordon/Jason Hart
SG Ricky Davis...Mardy Collins/Mike Taylor
SF Al Thornton...Steve Novak
PF Zack Randolph...Brian Skinner/Paul Davis
C Chris Kaman...Marcus Camby/Deandre Jordan
Dunleavy can do some damage with this line-up, if he can work it right.
Yeah that is a decent squad right there.
Decent is not enough in the west. Lottery, here we come. It's too bad they made that trade, without it they would have been able to go for a nice pick.
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I heard the Clips might be lookin to move one of the 3 bigs...they could get a nice package for Kaman.
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I heard the Clips might be lookin to move one of the 3 bigs...they could get a nice package for Kaman.
Why move Kaman though? He's probably the best big on the roster and he's like 676 years younger than Camby.
edit: oh wait, they're the clippers, thats why.
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I heard the Clips might be lookin to move one of the 3 bigs...they could get a nice package for Kaman.
Why move Kaman though? He's probably the best big on the roster and he's like 676 years younger than Camby.
edit: oh wait, they're the clippers, thats why.
They wont really get much for Camby or Randolph in return...if they can get someone along the lines of a Kevin Martin or Rudy Gay for Kaman, it might not be that bad of an idea to pull the trigger...imagine a line-up of BD, Kev-Martin, Thornton, Randolph, and Camby...not too bad, right? If the Clippers wanna win and be in the playoffs now, that's the way 2 go.
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I heard the Clips might be lookin to move one of the 3 bigs...they could get a nice package for Kaman.
Why move Kaman though? He's probably the best big on the roster and he's like 676 years younger than Camby.
edit: oh wait, they're the clippers, thats why.
They wont really get much for Camby or Randolph in return...if they can get someone along the lines of a Kevin Martin or Rudy Gay for Kaman, it might not be that bad of an idea to pull the trigger...imagine a line-up of BD, Kev-Martin, Thornton, Randolph, and Camby...not too bad, right? If the Clippers wanna win and be in the playoffs now, that's the way 2 go.
They have absolutely no chance of acquiring Kevin Martin or Rudy Gay though. Not only are those guys more valuable to their respective teams than Kaman would be, but both teams already have some pretty solid up and coming centers, especially Memphis.
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Clippers> Lakers
j/k
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LeBron James might ultimately choose New York, but that just may make his pizza better, not him.
The two biggest NBA myths around are that LeBron James needs to be in New York and that the league needs the Knicks to be good.
Anyone who still believes you can make it only in Manhattan probably still calls remote controls "clickers." This isn't the Walter Cronkite era, when we got our news from men sitting at desks in New York. These aren't the old Don Draper days, when everything we thought we knew and needed was generated by the ad shops on Madison Avenue.
LeBron, playing in little old Cleveland, stands to make more in endorsement money this year than New York Yankees superstars Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter will combined. And they play for the Yankees. LeBron could win eight championships with the Knicks and they still wouldn't rule that city the way the Yankees do. Oh, and you could add Peyton Manning's $13 million to Jeter and A-Rod's $14 million and it still won't match LeBron's $28 million in off-court money this year.
(If we didn't have bigger racial breakthroughs this year, we might ruminate on sociological implications of an African-American basketball player making more than twice as much endorsement money as a white NFL quarterback. Let's just say LeBron should be thankful for Julius Erving, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and even O.J. Simpson for making it possible for him to be the highest-paid team athlete in American sports this year.)
The only two people ahead of LeBron on Sports Illustrated's 2008 "Fortunate 50" list are golfers Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson. They can live anywhere they want, but they don't feel the need to be in New York. They'll pass on the outrageous price-per-square-footage costs for dwellings that don't have a single blade of grass. They'd rather be in Florida and Arizona, where they can be warm and (in Tiger's case) avoid paying state income taxes.
Now if James wants New York's vibrancy and thin-crust pizza, that's one thing. Maybe he just wants to play 41 games a year in Madison Square Garden. From the savvy fans to the booming sound system, it's still the NBA's best arena when it's at full blast.
But let's dispense with the notion that he has to go there, that it's the next step in his career and any other location between there and Los Angeles is a waste of his time. Patrick Ewing got to New York a year after MJ went to the Midwest … and you don't see people wearing Ewing's silhouette on their shoes.
LeBron made the cover of Sports Illustrated and played games on ESPN when he was a high schooler in Akron. In Cleveland, he's been on the cover of Fortune, Time and Vogue (maybe he should have rethought that last one). He has hosted "Saturday Night Live."
You don't need to go to the media anymore. The media come to you, even if it means parking a satellite truck at your curb. Just ask Joe the Plumber. In the world of YouTube, Flickr and Facebook, anyone with a digital camera and a high-speed Internet connection is the media. In fact, LeBron's best work can be found on the Web, in that sublime scene where Smooth LeBron romances Nicole Scherzinger with a pair of high-tops.
If LeBron goes to New York, he won't get any famouser. I'm forced to use a made-up word because the Knicks are a made-up mythology, somehow considered to be among the elite franchises even though the Rockets have won just as many championships in 21 fewer years of existence. The Warriors, Trail Blazers and Heat have won more recently than the Knicks. The Bullets and Sonics have won more recently, too, only they're not the Bullets and Sonics anymore.
When it comes to the league's health, the Knicks are like tonsils. It's nice to have them, but you can live without them. At the NBA's zenith in the 1980s, the stars of the program were in L.A. and Boston. The Knicks were the sideshow, giving us the occasional Bernard King scoring outbursts or the Ewing lottery. The best they could be in the early 1990s was an interesting villain to be vanquished, Sgt. Slaughter to Jordan's Hulk Hogan.
What happened the first two times Jordan retired and allowed the Knicks to get their time in the spotlight? Viewers left in droves. The biggest NBA Finals ratings drop-offs were from a 17.9 for Jordan in 1993 to a 12.4 for the Knicks and Rockets in 1994 and an 18.7 for Jordan in 1998 to an 11.3 for the Knicks and Spurs in 1999.
It doesn't matter that the Knicks reside in the nation's largest television market. New York only matters to New Yorkers. The rest of the country doesn't care.
Maybe LeBron buys into the New York hype because it seems as if he has spent his whole life surrounded by hype. The difference is, LeBron lives up to it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=lebronbigapple-081126
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^NY will never win shit as long as D'Antoni's coach...he's better off going to Brooklyn.
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nice trade
d'antoni and LBJ are friends i hear
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Randolph tore shit up for the Clippers last night... if he started playing some defense he could actually be as good as his numbers.
On a side note, the Clippers looked better without Kaman in the line-up...I know he's their future and their main prospect (along with Thronton), but now is the time to trade him if they wanna win. His value could get them something nice in return and it'll fix their current frontcourt glut.
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Randolph tore shit up for the Clippers last night... if he started playing some defense he could actually be as good as his numbers.
On a side note, the Clippers looked better without Kaman in the line-up...I know he's their future and their main prospect (along with Thronton), but now is the time to trade him if they wanna win. His value could get them something nice in return and it'll fix their current frontcourt glut.
good luck with that...
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With Marcus Camby in the paint, Randolph's D isn't really necessary. They compliment eachother really well in the front court.