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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Don Jacob on November 22, 2008, 11:56:19 PM
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.....he's still one of the best centers in this league.
1 on 1 he's gotten the best of
1. Duncan
2. Bynum
3. Oden
4. Bogot
5. Ming
i'm not saying he's really doing phoenix any service, because i think terry porter is an idiot and shaq's style doesn't mesh with the suns' style. But individually shaq is still an elite center this late into his career.
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17 and almost 10 boards a night is pretty decent. It actually helps Amare's game more but it gives them a presence inside they were definitely lacking before.
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why didnt u just post this in the best center thread..no need for another one.
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i agree with you but yet another shaq thread?
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He really stepped his game up this season. He owned Oden hard. Taught the overhyped fella a lesson. It's cool to see a nigga this old and this big still throwing it down this hard.
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its true
shaq's the best center in the NBA
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Shaq did a great job on Oden last night. Veteran vs rookie and it showed.
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^hell yeah, 19 & 17 last night. he's such a monster!
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How did he get the best of Bynum? LMAO...I'm still waiting for your reasoning behind that...Lakers won and Bynum had the better line. Try making sense of what you're claiming.
That said, Shaq is lookin better than he has the past couple years...definitely not "elite", but he's playing his part...the question is, can he keep it up for a whole season? well have to wait and see.
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you know he was the most hated player in the league while on the Lakers ;D
if I had a dollar every time I heard someone say he had no skill and just filled up the lane with his size
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The fact is that he's still phisically a monster. He is so huge it's embarassing. And when he wants to play he's still unstoppable.
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if he, nash and stoudimire are healthy they'll still be a playoff team
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How did he get the best of Bynum? LMAO...I'm still waiting for your reasoning behind that...Lakers won and Bynum had the better line. Try making sense of what you're claiming.
That said, Shaq is lookin better than he has the past couple years...definitely not "elite", but he's playing his part...the question is, can he keep it up for a whole season? well have to wait and see.
1. yes the lakers won, the lakers are a better team
2. Bynum didn't have a better line than shaq. Shaq had 15 to bynum's 10. Shaq had 9 rebs to bynums 7. shaq had bynum in foul trouble. Phil benched Bynym. bynum wasn't even a factor when shaq was on the floor, most of those stats came while shaq was on the bench, watch the game again, bynum couldn't do anything against shaq.
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How did he get the best of Bynum? LMAO...I'm still waiting for your reasoning behind that...Lakers won and Bynum had the better line. Try making sense of what you're claiming.
That said, Shaq is lookin better than he has the past couple years...definitely not "elite", but he's playing his part...the question is, can he keep it up for a whole season? well have to wait and see.
1. yes the lakers won, the lakers are a better team
2. Bynum didn't have a better line than shaq. Shaq to bynum's 10. Shaq had 9 rebs to bynums 7. shaq had bynum in foul trouble. Phil benched Bynym. bynum wasn't even a factor when shaq was on the floor, most of those stats came while shaq was on the bench, watch the game again, bynum couldn't do anything against shaq.
Bynum made 5 field goals on 8 attempts in 20 minutes. Shaq had made 6 field goals on 12 attempts in 27 minutes with 4 turnovers. learn what a better line is. go read antonios break-down of the head-to-head match-up.
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NIK = Full of Shit
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the question is, can he keep it up for a whole season? well have to wait and see.
exactly...its not just whether he can last physically..i expect an emotional/attitude breakdown before a physical one.
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^The Suns medical stuff has got to be a collection of geniuses... They had so many players who suffered from serious chronical ill-beings, and all them niggas got better for good when they went to Phoenix. Nash and his back, Shaq and his conditioning + extras, Hill and his ankles + everything else, Amare fully recovered from the type of surgery that can end a career, and probably more stuff that isn't on my mind right now. If I was an NBA player who has physical problems all the time, I'd pay the Suns to fix me. And I'd pay good money.
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NIK = Full of Shit
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=201587.0
idiot
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^The Suns medical stuff has got to be a collection of geniuses... They had so many players who suffered from serious chronical ill-beings, and all them niggas got better for good when they went to Phoenix. Nash and his back, Shaq and his conditioning + extras, Hill and his ankles + everything else, Amare fully recovered from the type of surgery that can end a career, and probably more stuff that isn't on my mind right now. If I was an NBA player who has physical problems all the time, I'd pay the Suns to fix me. And I'd pay good money.
LOL...didn't work for Penny Hardaway, Jalen Rose, or Antonio Mcdyess.
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How did he get the best of Bynum? LMAO...I'm still waiting for your reasoning behind that...Lakers won and Bynum had the better line. Try making sense of what you're claiming.
That said, Shaq is lookin better than he has the past couple years...definitely not "elite", but he's playing his part...the question is, can he keep it up for a whole season? well have to wait and see.
1. yes the lakers won, the lakers are a better team
2. Bynum didn't have a better line than shaq. Shaq had 15 to bynum's 10. Shaq had 9 rebs to bynums 7. shaq had bynum in foul trouble. Phil benched Bynym. bynum wasn't even a factor when shaq was on the floor, most of those stats came while shaq was on the bench, watch the game again, bynum couldn't do anything against shaq.
I did. And you're wrong.
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Jake=more of a Shaq fan than a Laker fan.
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How did he get the best of Bynum? LMAO...I'm still waiting for your reasoning behind that...Lakers won and Bynum had the better line. Try making sense of what you're claiming.
That said, Shaq is lookin better than he has the past couple years...definitely not "elite", but he's playing his part...the question is, can he keep it up for a whole season? well have to wait and see.
1. yes the lakers won, the lakers are a better team
2. Bynum didn't have a better line than shaq. Shaq had 15 to bynum's 10. Shaq had 9 rebs to bynums 7. shaq had bynum in foul trouble. Phil benched Bynym. bynum wasn't even a factor when shaq was on the floor, most of those stats came while shaq was on the bench, watch the game again, bynum couldn't do anything against shaq.
I did. And you're wrong.
Bynum wasn't doing anything on shaq, he had one shot on him, the rest were on Amare's soft ass. Also defensively all Bynum could do was foul Shaq. So to say Bynum had the best of Shaq is absurd. good defense doesn't equal hack-a-shaq, good defense equals stopping shaq from penetrating the paint, which bynum did not do. He let shaq penetrate the middle and got himself in foul trouble trying to stop him.
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Jake=more of a Shaq fan than a Laker fan.
no. but shaq>bynum right now though.
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Jake=more of a Shaq fan than a Laker fan.
no. but shaq>bynum right now though.
LMAO
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How did he get the best of Bynum? LMAO...I'm still waiting for your reasoning behind that...Lakers won and Bynum had the better line. Try making sense of what you're claiming.
That said, Shaq is lookin better than he has the past couple years...definitely not "elite", but he's playing his part...the question is, can he keep it up for a whole season? well have to wait and see.
1. yes the lakers won, the lakers are a better team
2. Bynum didn't have a better line than shaq. Shaq had 15 to bynum's 10. Shaq had 9 rebs to bynums 7. shaq had bynum in foul trouble. Phil benched Bynym. bynum wasn't even a factor when shaq was on the floor, most of those stats came while shaq was on the bench, watch the game again, bynum couldn't do anything against shaq.
I did. And you're wrong.
Bynum wasn't doing anything on shaq, he had one shot on him, the rest were on Amare's soft ass. Also defensively all Bynum could do was foul Shaq. So to say Bynum had the best of Shaq is absurd. good defense doesn't equal hack-a-shaq, good defense equals stopping shaq from penetrating the paint, which bynum did not do. He let shaq penetrate the middle and got himself in foul trouble trying to stop him.
WTF are you talking about? Antonio broke it down play-by-play...go read the thread I linked and get your Shaq loving ass out of here with that "Laker fan" BS, homie.
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Jake=more of a Shaq fan than a Laker fan.
no. but shaq>bynum right now though.
real talk
NIK = more of a Kobe fan than a real Laker fan
NIK = loves Kobe more than his own mom
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^What are you talking about?...If Kobe demanded an unreasonable salary from the Lakers and then asked for a trade when he didn't get it, I'd hate his ass... This ain't no Raptor basketball, the Laker legacy is bigger than any individual player. I have a thing called Laker pride, unlike Jake, who still slobbers over Shaq after he shitted all over our franchise...
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Jacob let's say you still have Duncan, Oden, Bogot and Ming for your topic. :)
Check my topic with the play-by-play review tho. We can discuss there, if you want.
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i had a long ass , thought out response...then the board woiuldn't let me post it....but watching and even REWATCHING that game. I still stand by the notion that shaq won that match up with out a doubt. Bynum was minimalized out there and got into foul trouble....something that has more weight than 1 or -1 points, while shaq just simply did his thang.
Shaq at any age> Bynum to this point.
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im gunna bring this up at the end of the season and everyones gunna laugh.
Bynum is CLEARLY better out there...he's more agile, can run the floor, still rotates on defense, rebounds and defends. The current Shaq has NOTHING on Bynum, and the 5-8 & 1 TO vs. 6-12 & 4 TOs shows that.
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yeah, well when you got amare guarding you , you better make those shots
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yeah, well when you got amare guarding you , you better make those shots
Amare was guarding the 4...this is how I know you didn't watch the game, or at least wasn't paying attention.
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i had a long ass , thought out response...then the board woiuldn't let me post it....but watching and even REWATCHING that game. I still stand by the notion that shaq won that match up with out a doubt. Bynum was minimalized out there and got into foul trouble....something that has more weight than 1 or -1 points, while shaq just simply did his thang.
Shaq at any age> Bynum to this point.
No doubt Shaq attacked Bynum more. Actually he went 11 times in isolation in the post against him in less than 15 minutes, some crazy shit. He was running offence for the Suns, no doubt. And no doubt he's still a big factor. He's making his career look even better this season, and i'm extremely happy for him. But he scored just 5 points in those 11 situations. And Bynum's first foul was called on him with 6 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. I think Bynum stopped him pretty well. "Pretty" well, cause when Shaq wants to play (and he was motivated enought) you can't stop some of his movements. You don't even stand a chance. But overall Bynum played well, outrebounding him, grabbing a pair of offensive rebounds on him, forcing him to make a pair of turn-overs, putting his hands on him forcing him to miss 3-4 shots. Don't understimate what he did. Then he sent him to the line 2 times fouling him, ok. But sometimes, like i said, that's the only thing you can do to block a force of nature like Shaq.
Shaq NOW > Bynum NOW is a statement i can understand (i mean i won't diss you if you write it). But i still go with Andrew.
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yeah, well when you got amare guarding you , you better make those shots
Shaq made 8 points out of 15 when Bynum wasn't even on the floor, man. And he grabbed 8 rebounds out of 9 too. C'mon now :)
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Jake=more of a Shaq fan than a Laker fan.
Elior = More of a Shaq hater than a Laker fan.
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yeah, well when you got amare guarding you , you better make those shots
Shaq made 8 points out of 15 when Bynum wasn't even on the floor, man. And he grabbed 8 rebounds out of 9 too. C'mon now :)
I don't think he watched the game.
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How did he get the best of Bynum? LMAO...I'm still waiting for your reasoning behind that...Lakers won and Bynum had the better line. Try making sense of what you're claiming.
That said, Shaq is lookin better than he has the past couple years...definitely not "elite", but he's playing his part...the question is, can he keep it up for a whole season? well have to wait and see.
1. yes the lakers won, the lakers are a better team
2. Bynum didn't have a better line than shaq. Shaq had 15 to bynum's 10. Shaq had 9 rebs to bynums 7. shaq had bynum in foul trouble. Phil benched Bynym. bynum wasn't even a factor when shaq was on the floor, most of those stats came while shaq was on the bench, watch the game again, bynum couldn't do anything against shaq.
I did. And you're wrong.
Bynum wasn't doing anything on shaq, he had one shot on him, the rest were on Amare's soft ass. Also defensively all Bynum could do was foul Shaq. So to say Bynum had the best of Shaq is absurd. good defense doesn't equal hack-a-shaq, good defense equals stopping shaq from penetrating the paint, which bynum did not do. He let shaq penetrate the middle and got himself in foul trouble trying to stop him.
Co-sign
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bynum,realistically should be in college right now. give him a FULL year at the very least before any judgments are made. just a quick question though...if you were building a team now,who would you go with Shaq or Bynum?
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bynum,realistically should be in college right now. give him a FULL year at the very least before any judgments are made. just a quick question though...if you were building a team now,who would you go with Shaq or Bynum?
if you're building, Bynum for sure, shaq's got like what 1 maybe 2 years left in him. If you're already in contention and need a big....shaq.
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Jake=more of a Shaq fan than a Laker fan.
Elior = More of a Shaq hater than a Laker fan.
yup. NIK has a very subjective conception of things which makes him lose his complete sense of reality
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Shaq had 18 points, 10 bords and 3 blocks last night fellas.... ;D The Big Deez doin it Bigg once again!! 8)
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bynum will be lucky to have 1/2 the talent Shaq had at his age
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If you're already in contention and need a big....shaq.
this is ridiculous. if Shaq was on the Lakers instead of Bynum right now, we wouldn't be 12-1.
Jake=more of a Shaq fan than a Laker fan.
Elior = More of a Shaq hater than a Laker fan.
yup. NIK has a very subjective conception of things which makes him lose his complete sense of reality
everything I say is my honest opinion...i try to be as objective as possible, so you're wrong.
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Shaq had 18 points, 10 bords and 3 blocks last night fellas.... ;D The Big Deez doin it Bigg once again!! 8)
LOL...give any big-man the night off whenever they please, and they'd do the same thing. :laugh: