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Title: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Rick McCrank on December 10, 2008, 04:34:44 PM
I don't really have any feelings about whether or not it's a mistake, I'm just curious what people think

this thread is inspired by the fact that it seems when he comes in the game it's a disaster

he gets the inbound and shoots off like a loose cannon, fucking up any kind of offensive strategy

he seems to immediately get trapped in the corner (also on defense he plays way too close to the guy with the ball, always gets burned)

every time he makes a pass I cringe, he makes the worst passes I've ever seen sometimes

throwing it like a girl when someone's licking their chops locked in on the ball

this guy is responsible for turning the ball over every other possession he gets a touch

also Phil Jackson says he's trying to score too much and taking crappy shots, needs to think team first basketball
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 10, 2008, 04:39:37 PM
It was only a 3 year deal, so I don't think the contract was too bad, but Vujacic needs to step it up. But he is not the main reason for the Lakers subpar play.
Fuckin' contract year. >:(
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Rick McCrank on December 10, 2008, 04:42:17 PM
But he is not the main reason for the Lakers subpar play

I know, it's just that his mistakes stand out so much when he makes them

when I watch the games it's unbelievable when he fucks up, he definitely makes the most bonehead plays
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: 7even on December 10, 2008, 04:48:35 PM
Yes
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 10, 2008, 04:51:40 PM
Too soon to say. Ariza is taking a lot of his minutes plus he started the season with an ankle injury.

Either way atleast we didn't give him a Luke Walton type contract.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: 7even on December 10, 2008, 04:56:01 PM
Lakers have been fucked over by contract year niggas

Maybe that's why Phil Jackson shits on Odom so Mitch won't give him a 6-year, 80 million extension  :laugh:
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 10, 2008, 06:09:37 PM
Mistake? How? We gave him a bitchmade contract and he wanted DOUBLE what he got...it's way too early into the season to judge the situation and he's only averaging 14 minutes per game as of now...PeACe
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Antonio on December 10, 2008, 07:16:23 PM
There are a few reasons why Sasha is playing less minutes than his career average this year, mostly during garbage time or in special situations only. The main one is that he's the kind of player who takes a shot at his very first possession of the ball, expecially after a screen or a backdoor. He's aggressive, maybe too much, but sometimes (expecially this year) Lakers needs/want to control the tempo of the game and to play 24 seconds (Playoff style) instead of having those quick shots who puts the game in a "who scores more win" situation. So Phil is using him just when he wants the Lakers to increase the tempo of the game and he needs them quick shots. If you check stats, Sasha is the player who takes more shots per minute in the Lakers other than mr. Bryant himself. So it's impossible for Jackson to use him more than 14-15 minutes per game (and to use him when our offensive weapons are already on the floor at that moment). The other reason is that Radmanovic is probably the most improved player in the team imho (he stepped up defensively), Ariza is finally playing up to his potential, and Farmar is also confirming his progress. There's no room for Sasha other than playing in particular situations. And when you have to force things and to play under this pressure, going always to the max shooting after 10-12 seconds of possession and at the same time you have a big contract with his shadow that follows you, you are not relaxed and you don't play like you did in the past. I think last year he felt he was important for the team. This year he's not. Talking about the contract, we gave him the contract he probably deserved at the moment he signed it. I mean last year he was our 3rd offensive weapon in most of the games, and he won by himself a couple of them, shooting .437 from the long range. I'm not a fan of him (even tho' he improved dramatically since his rookie year), but you gotta respect his jumpshot.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 10, 2008, 07:28:34 PM
everyone hated on me for saying this but he's TRASH

would NEVER want him on my team
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: wcsoldier on December 10, 2008, 10:51:25 PM
^^^^ lol Sasha >>>> Eddie House , Scalabrini and the rest of your trash Celtics towels guy
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 11, 2008, 01:22:13 AM
Thanks for makin this thread...


Sasha tonight:
15 points (4/5 FG, 3/4 3FG), 1 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, 1 block

still got it... 8)
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Antonio on December 11, 2008, 04:12:02 AM
Thanks for makin this thread...

LOL Bynum is averaging 18/10 since Hack made that thread. Let's hope Sasha can step it up too. ;D
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: tempo2 on December 11, 2008, 04:56:51 AM
i think every team in the league would like sasha being there 9th guy off the bench, no team in the nba has a team like there lakers wehere sasha is the 9th guy in the rotation.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 11, 2008, 05:10:29 AM
^^^^ lol Sasha >>>> Eddie House , Scalabrini and the rest of your trash Celtics towels guy
ok Homer Simpson


Scalibrini is like the last god damn player on the bench, you are funny.

Sasha = garbage
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Kool Beenz on December 11, 2008, 09:46:24 AM
sorry but i gotta agree with Hack on this one
im not a fan of Sasha or Luke
i think they cost the lakers the playoffs last season
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: thisoneguy360 on December 11, 2008, 11:15:54 AM
Sashas got game..maybe a little shot happy at times but I like dude
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 11, 2008, 05:31:06 PM
sorry but i gotta agree with Hack on this one
im not a fan of Sasha or Luke
i think they cost the lakers the playoffs last season

Whatyatalkinbout? Sasha single-handedly won some games for us in the playoffs last season.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 11, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
sorry but i gotta agree with Hack on this one
im not a fan of Sasha or Luke
i think they cost the lakers the playoffs last season

Whatyatalkinbout? Sasha single-handedly won some games for us in the playoffs last season.
He fucked up in the finals, though.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 11, 2008, 05:43:29 PM
sorry but i gotta agree with Hack on this one
im not a fan of Sasha or Luke
i think they cost the lakers the playoffs last season

Whatyatalkinbout? Sasha single-handedly won some games for us in the playoffs last season.
He fucked up in the finals, though.


our whole team was discombobulated...can't pin it on one guy. the triangle is a crazy system. one guy falters, the whole team falters.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 11, 2008, 09:06:58 PM
lol or more like the team that plays better defense wins against the team w/ eurosoftee's

instead of pampered euro players, we got americans from the hoods

the truth = inglewood

leon powe = oakland

brian scalibrine = compton

etc.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 11, 2008, 09:53:04 PM
lol or more like the team that plays better defense wins against the team w/ eurosoftee's

instead of pampered euro players, we got americans from the hoods

the truth = inglewood

leon powe = oakland

brian scalibrine = compton

etc.
Californians repping the Celtics hard?!?! What is this world coming to?
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: 'EclipZe on December 11, 2008, 10:04:24 PM
I think he's overrated. The guy got a good shot but for the rest he doesn't impress me except for a few nice moves now and then.  lol @ the guy comparing sasha with Scalabrini
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 11, 2008, 10:24:48 PM
lol or more like the team that plays better defense wins against the team w/ eurosoftee's

instead of pampered euro players, we got americans from the hoods

the truth = inglewood

leon powe = oakland

brian scalibrine = compton

etc.
But the Lakers are reppin' the world.
We got Vujacic, Gasol, and Vlad from Europe
Sun Yue from Asia
Mbenga from Africa
A whole bunch of players from North America

Just need to find a Brazilian that can ball and we'll be the United Nations of the league.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: M Dogg™ on December 11, 2008, 10:34:50 PM
I think Sasha is a great member of the Lakers, and I think homie will pay off in the playoffs. Hack keeps dissing them, then they do their thing, keep it up young homie.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Kool Beenz on December 12, 2008, 12:01:53 AM
Nik you got a point... i know Lamar was kinda fucking up too
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 12, 2008, 07:28:00 AM
I think Sasha is a great member of the Lakers, and I think homie will pay off in the playoffs. Hack keeps dissing them, then they do their thing, keep it up young homie.

sasha = him, not "them"

2nd, sasha was a choker last playoff, i cant wait toii see him this year
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: M Dogg™ on December 12, 2008, 07:41:37 AM
I think Sasha is a great member of the Lakers, and I think homie will pay off in the playoffs. Hack keeps dissing them, then they do their thing, keep it up young homie.

sasha = him, not "them"

I was talking the Lakers in general, you diss Bynum, you talking about Sasha, keep dissing the Lakers Hack, it's a good thing for us.

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2nd, sasha was a choker last playoff, i cant wait toii see him this year

Sasha had a great playoff, maybe a poor finals, but that's all good. So did everyone not named Kobe. We have to rebuild and let the team mature from that experience.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 12, 2008, 07:49:03 AM
I think Sasha is a great member of the Lakers, and I think homie will pay off in the playoffs. Hack keeps dissing them, then they do their thing, keep it up young homie.

sasha = him, not "them"

I was talking the Lakers in general, you diss Bynum, you talking about Sasha, keep dissing the Lakers Hack, it's a good thing for us.

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2nd, sasha was a choker last playoff, i cant wait toii see him this year

Sasha had a great playoff, maybe a poor finals, but that's all good. So did everyone not named Kobe. We have to rebuild and let the team mature from that experience.

was that great last year when Hack was talkn smack? LOL

i posted an article on Bynum, i did not write it lol.


back to the finals, how didn't Kobe do poor?  he got owned on both ends of the court by The Truth and disapeared in the 4th quarters.



Lakers are too soft to win a finals
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: thisoneguy360 on December 12, 2008, 12:42:10 PM
I think Sasha is a great member of the Lakers, and I think homie will pay off in the playoffs. Hack keeps dissing them, then they do their thing, keep it up young homie.

sasha = him, not "them"

I was talking the Lakers in general, you diss Bynum, you talking about Sasha, keep dissing the Lakers Hack, it's a good thing for us.

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2nd, sasha was a choker last playoff, i cant wait toii see him this year

Sasha had a great playoff, maybe a poor finals, but that's all good. So did everyone not named Kobe. We have to rebuild and let the team mature from that experience.

was that great last year when Hack was talkn smack? LOL

i posted an article on Bynum, i did not write it lol.


back to the finals, how didn't Kobe do poor?  he got owned on both ends of the court by The Truth and disapeared in the 4th quarters.



Lakers are too soft to win a finals


Ariza and Bynum are pretty soft too huh  ;). We'll see what happens this year  ;D
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Rick McCrank on December 12, 2008, 02:32:00 PM
Hack is absolutely right, the Lakers are too soft to win The Finals

until they ACTUALLY fucking win I'm going to keep repeating myself

because they sure as hell don't ever look hungry enough

I know it's early in the season and things happen and can turn around

but as far as the last 10 games or so, they're a joke as far as contenders are concerned

and by contenders I mean Boston, the Lakers will run through everyone else BUT them, because they're scared

they're so lame on defense they'll probably let weak ass Rondo win the MVP this year

the way they let fat Paul Pierce use an oxygen tank to get to the basket was ridiculous

the fact no one could keep up with his is laughable, they made him look like Michael Jordan

I know it's a new year and Bynum makes a difference, but it's the same damn team, don't kid yourself Laker fans
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 12, 2008, 05:21:40 PM
Hack is absolutely right, the Lakers are too soft to win The Finals

until they ACTUALLY fucking win I'm going to keep repeating myself

because they sure as hell don't ever look hungry enough

I know it's early in the season and things happen and can turn around

but as far as the last 10 games or so, they're a joke as far as contenders are concerned

and by contenders I mean Boston, the Lakers will run through everyone else BUT them, because they're scared

they're so lame on defense they'll probably let weak ass Rondo win the MVP this year

the way they let fat Paul Pierce use an oxygen tank to get to the basket was ridiculous

the fact no one could keep up with his is laughable, they made him look like Michael Jordan

I know it's a new year and Bynum makes a difference, but it's the same damn team, don't kid yourself Laker fans

+1
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: wcsoldier on December 13, 2008, 04:51:34 AM
I think he's overrated. The guy got a good shot but for the rest he doesn't impress me except for a few nice moves now and then.  lol @ the guy comparing sasha with Scalabrini
lol at you thinking I'm serious .. it was just a answer to the great analysis ; Sasha = Garbage .

Back on topic the reason of Sasha struggling with his shot is pretty obvious , he did a lot of his damage last year with the 1st unit , particulary shooting off Kobe creation ... besides the latest 2 games , he has played very few minutes with the 1st unit , which is a way better passing team than the 2nd unit ....Sasha is a catch and shoot type of player , who needs offensive creation from others to be effective ... the halfcourt execution of the 2nd unit is below average therefore a lot of his shots were forced ...
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 14, 2008, 03:59:21 AM
Hack is absolutely right, the Lakers are too soft to win The Finals

until they ACTUALLY fucking win I'm going to keep repeating myself

because they sure as hell don't ever look hungry enough

I know it's early in the season and things happen and can turn around

but as far as the last 10 games or so, they're a joke as far as contenders are concerned

and by contenders I mean Boston, the Lakers will run through everyone else BUT them, because they're scared

they're so lame on defense they'll probably let weak ass Rondo win the MVP this year

the way they let fat Paul Pierce use an oxygen tank to get to the basket was ridiculous

the fact no one could keep up with his is laughable, they made him look like Michael Jordan

I know it's a new year and Bynum makes a difference, but it's the same damn team, don't kid yourself Laker fans


you're a joke


Lakers since the Gasol trade = 56-12. suck a fatty. 8)
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Rick McCrank on December 14, 2008, 02:53:41 PM
hey, I just call it how I see it

funny how every fan I've talked to that actually watches the games agrees with me
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on December 14, 2008, 04:38:30 PM
^^ you don't shit about b-ball and you kick it with a bunch of idiots.....Sasha is not our weak link, you should really pay more attention to the games, dipshit!
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 14, 2008, 05:46:27 PM
he's a bum you guys

the foriegn name guy is right.  don't be afraid to criticize your team every now and then  (ala sam cassel burn in hell)
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Rick McCrank on December 14, 2008, 06:42:02 PM
^^ you don't shit about b-ball and you kick it with a bunch of idiots.....Sasha is not our weak link, you should really pay more attention to the games, dipshit!

what I said had nothing to do with Sasha, and I never said he was our weakest link, pay attention

what's the worst thing I said?  that the Lakers look weak in the last 10 games?  that if they don't straighten up they'll get fucked up?

as a Laker fan, why is this so hard to admit?  why can nothing negative ever be said, why think of our current performances like no one could do any better?
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Rick McCrank on December 14, 2008, 07:29:13 PM
holy shit the Lakers look awful so far in the first half

I'm going to start taking my frustrations out on Sasha

as you can see he quickly had a few unproductive minutes with like 3 turnovers before being yanked out


Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 15, 2008, 01:31:52 AM
^this "awful" team is 20-3...get some help, man. you're a sever pessimist.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Rick McCrank on December 15, 2008, 01:46:02 AM
I don't care what their record is

I'm saying exactly what happened you fucking idiot,  you think they played well in the first half?

they weren't exactly handling the 4-19 Wolves, until 5 min left in the 4th they had a ball game

they even had trouble getting the ball in the paint against Minnesota!

they're just lucky the Wolves are so unbelievably shitty they couldn't even hit open shots, cause there were plenty

I thought you watched the games?  if so you'd have heard Joel, Stu, Rick Fox, Norm Nixon point out their crappy play

even Phil Jackson said they played --- "so bad"

I take it your opinion is that they have nothing to improve on?  you're the fuckin joke, get some help, you suck too much dick

when the Lakers start playing good basketball, then I'll give them some props
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 15, 2008, 02:36:07 AM
^Do you know anything about the NBA game or are you just a fucking moron who likes to comment on things he's clueless bout? if a team exerted 100% their energy for 48 minutes/82 games, they'd be dead by playoff time. The point is, if you think the Lakers couldn't have won by 20+ points today, you're a class-A idiot.

Yes, we played like shit, but that's because we don't play with the same energy in every game. Why use energy to blowout a team by 20+ when you can suck and knowingly still beat them by double-digits?...how long have you been following basketball, honestly? We played just hard enough to win every quarter, and ultimately, win the game. That's how the sport is. If you watched Boston's games, you'd see the same thing...same for any team that knows what the fuck they're doing. AGAIN, we're not the Suns or the Mavs, we're not gunna bust our asses for every game in the regular season only to realize that the playoffs is when the true teams boost it up a notch to perform at peak levels. Learn what Laker championship basketball has been (and will always be) about.

LMAO@"when the Lakers start playing good basketball"...We're talking about a 20-3 team here. :stupid:
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 15, 2008, 08:24:36 AM
^this "awful" team is 20-3...get some help, man. you're a sever pessimist.

22-2 > 20-3


east's the better conf too
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: wcsoldier on December 15, 2008, 12:33:59 PM
^this "awful" team is 20-3...get some help, man. you're a sever pessimist.
east's the better conf too


LOL West has looked less impressive because every top team has been hit by major injuries minus the Lakers ... SAS have been playing without TP AND Manu for some time , NO without Chandler for some games , No Howard for the Mavs AND The Jazz without their best two players for 70 percent of their game ...
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 15, 2008, 07:14:46 PM
^this "awful" team is 20-3...get some help, man. you're a sever pessimist.
east's the better conf too


LOL West has looked less impressive because every top team has been hit by major injuries minus the Lakers ... SAS have been playing without TP AND Manu for some time , NO without Chandler for some games , No Howard for the Mavs AND The Jazz without their best two players for 70 percent of their game ...

c's, cav's, magic, detroit, hawks, nets, heat...these are some fine teams.

yeah the west still has talent but 3 of the top 4 NBA teams are in the east



and you guys play in a division w/ the kings, warriors and clippers....thats 12 free wins a year
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 16, 2008, 01:46:18 AM
^LOL...dont act like the Bobcats, Bucks, and Wizards don't play in your conference. Sixers and Raptors have been pretty shitty this year, as well.
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 16, 2008, 02:33:28 PM
^LOL...dont act like the Bobcats, Bucks, and Wizards don't play in your conference. Sixers and Raptors have been pretty shitty this year, as well.

wiz have injuries, bucks had Redd losit for awhile, and the bobcats got a great coach
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Rick McCrank on December 16, 2008, 04:14:08 PM
^ you've been making some sense, but let's not get carried away

the Bucks with or without Redd are extremely shitty
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 16, 2008, 04:33:29 PM
^ you've been making some sense, but let's not get carried away

the Bucks with or without Redd are extremely shitty

lol well that may be the case, but he makes a lotta difference in a game
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: Man On The Moon on December 18, 2008, 08:43:19 AM
Hell fuckin yeah...I hate that fucker...if i ever seen him in the streets I'm punchin' him
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 18, 2008, 06:53:05 PM
Hell fuckin yeah...I hate that fucker...if i ever seen him in the streets I'm punchin' him
even HE hates the guy
Title: Re: was signing Vujacic a mistake?
Post by: MoodMuzik on December 18, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
Hell fuckin yeah...I hate that fucker...if i ever seen him in the streets I'm punchin' him
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO