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Title: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: NewYork Pope on February 01, 2009, 07:53:54 PM
but all those producers never sound the same or produced those same kind ill beats when they go on their own.

Daz was sick on Death Row. Where's that dopeness now?
Mel MAn did all Dre beats, His beats sound nothing like those with Dre my himself, tho dope. Ain't did nothing major since 2001
_________ in the black of who Dre jack or used to rely on. You name them

It's funny how many people discredit his actual skills, non of those people sound as good as Dre on their own.

I just keep seeing threads thats always discredit him,  says how much he sucks etc..

Cool, if you think so and so is better. It's alll subjective, but the dude been consistent with his sound and dopeness for one who only relyies on others, while most not around anymore.

He relies on music just as a really produce does. Is the mentality yall would have in the genre of rock where there's a bass player, keys, drum etc... with 1 producer?
I don't get it.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: D-Nice on February 01, 2009, 08:02:41 PM
No diss homie but I am having a hard time following your post. Are you saying that Dre makes these producers better or that he needs a co producer to be dope or both?
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: NewYork Pope on February 01, 2009, 08:16:20 PM
No diss homie but I am having a hard time following your post. Are you saying that Dre makes these producers better or that he needs a co producer to be dope or both?
Nah, stating that he accused of jacking other producers thus he's not dope because of that (as if). Granted he probably did jack some joint. Doesn't take his skills away

The other is how all these co-producer is really the better producer Dre relied on to sound dope, but they don't sound as dope on their own, apart from Dre.

I think i relayed the same thing in the og post.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: D-Nice on February 01, 2009, 08:18:09 PM
No diss homie but I am having a hard time following your post. Are you saying that Dre makes these producers better or that he needs a co producer to be dope or both?
Nah, stating that he accused of jacking other producers thus he's not dope because of that (as if). Granted he probably did jack some joint. Doesn't take his skills away

The other is how all these co-producer is really the better producer Dre relied on to sound dope, but they don't sound as dope on their own, apart from Dre.

I think i relayed the same thing in the og post.

Ok I got ya. Yeah there might be some truth to that.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: brickboy on February 01, 2009, 09:57:14 PM
That is some straight ignorrant Bs , do you even know why its called a producer ? Dre is not a beatmaker he is a producer , who likes to use real people instead just keyboards , your words dont make any sense , a producer make records from top 2 bottom like from the beat making to the final mix and that is what dre is so skilled at , a beat maker is just a little paart of being a producer and its obvius to me that you dont any clue of this , yeah so what if he dont play all things himself , its just a way capturing the creative energi og the great indviduals around him , your thread is like going out and hating Quincy jones for not playing all his instruments in his productions . Brickboy
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on February 01, 2009, 10:27:03 PM
Dre fell the fuck off as a beat maker and probably did jack some beats. But even to this day he is probably the best mixer, sound engineer, and overall director of the instrumental aspect of producing. It's still lame how it takes him at least 5 years to get anything done.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: Hey Ma on February 01, 2009, 10:30:09 PM
Dre fell the fuck off as a beat maker and probably did jack some beats. But even to this day he is probably the best mixer, sound engineer, and overall director of the instrumental aspect of producing. It's still lame how it takes him at least 5 years to get anything done.

Trent Reznor might have something to say about that.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 01, 2009, 10:30:33 PM
Thats because Dre doesn't really make beats. His co-star make them and he mixes and tweaks them. Similar to P.Diddy but without all the lame sampling.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: Dre-Day on February 02, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
but all those producers never sound the same or produced those same kind ill beats when they go on their own.

Daz was sick on Death Row. Where's that dopeness now?
Mel MAn did all Dre beats, His beats sound nothing like those with Dre my himself, tho dope. Ain't did nothing major since 2001
_________ in the black of who Dre jack or used to rely on. You name them

It's funny how many people discredit his actual skills, non of those people sound as good as Dre on their own.

I just keep seeing threads thats always discredit him,  says how much he sucks etc..

Cool, if you think so and so is better. It's alll subjective, but the dude been consistent with his sound and dopeness for one who only relyies on others, while most not around anymore.

He relies on music just as a really produce does. Is the mentality yall would have in the genre of rock where there's a bass player, keys, drum etc... with 1 producer?
I don't get it.

true, props   :)

well you know how it goes, a lot of people speak on things they have no clue of  ;)
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: Jimmy H. on February 02, 2009, 01:05:23 AM
Thats because Dre doesn't really make beats. His co-star make them and he mixes and tweaks them. Similar to P.Diddy but without all the lame sampling.
I think Diddy is more of a concept producer though. I always got the feeling he'd come up with an idea and have another producer put it together where Dre was a lot more hands-on in terms of crafting the sound.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: MediumL on February 02, 2009, 01:07:18 AM
its funny how other producers use co producers but never get the hassle dre does. Nobody says anything about quik and robert bacon.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 02, 2009, 01:21:39 AM
its funny how other producers use co producers but never get the hassle dre does. Nobody says anything about quik and robert bacon.

When is the last time someone accused Quik of stealing their beat?
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: penenstamp on February 02, 2009, 01:40:23 AM
its funny how other producers use co producers but never get the hassle dre does. Nobody says anything about quik and robert bacon.

When is the last time someone accused Quik of stealing their beat?

2002







but all those producers never sound the same or produced those same kind ill beats when they go on their own.

Daz was sick on Death Row. Where's that dopeness now?
Mel MAn did all Dre beats, His beats sound nothing like those with Dre my himself, tho dope. Ain't did nothing major since 2001
_________ in the black of who Dre jack or used to rely on. You name them

It's funny how many people discredit his actual skills, non of those people sound as good as Dre on their own.

I just keep seeing threads thats always discredit him,  says how much he sucks etc..

Cool, if you think so and so is better. It's alll subjective, but the dude been consistent with his sound and dopeness for one who only relyies on others, while most not around anymore.

He relies on music just as a really produce does. Is the mentality yall would have in the genre of rock where there's a bass player, keys, drum etc... with 1 producer?
I don't get it.

You're right... but I don't think it's ever been denied that Dre is like an overseeing producer. It's what Dre does and what he's had success with. Unfortunetely he did fall.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: Mietek23 on February 02, 2009, 02:33:31 AM
I'll say it like this - if Dre still have Sam Sneed, J. Flexx, Daz, Soopafly, Sean Barney Thomas, Brian Big Bass Gardner, Mel-Man, Stu-B-Doo, Budda, Chris The Glove Taylor or Scott Storch, his beats would be the SHIT. But those people left - all he got now is Focus and that ain't enough..
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: brickboy on February 02, 2009, 06:16:26 AM
I'll say it like this - if Dre still have Sam Sneed, J. Flexx, Daz, Soopafly, Sean Barney Thomas, Brian Big Bass Gardner, Mel-Man, Stu-B-Doo, Budda, Chris The Glove Taylor or Scott Storch, his beats would be the SHIT. But those people left - all he got now is Focus and that ain't enough..

Brian big bass gardner masters music you fucking dummy , you are not and those people did not left they created a carreer b cuz of dre and all did their thing , i wanna punch your face in for your dum talking
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: Mietek23 on February 02, 2009, 06:43:00 AM
I'll say it like this - if Dre still have Sam Sneed, J. Flexx, Daz, Soopafly, Sean Barney Thomas, Brian Big Bass Gardner, Mel-Man, Stu-B-Doo, Budda, Chris The Glove Taylor or Scott Storch, his beats would be the SHIT. But those people left - all he got now is Focus and that ain't enough..

Brian big bass gardner masters music you fucking dummy , you are not and those people did not left they created a carreer b cuz of dre and all did their thing , i wanna punch your face in for your dum talking

shut the fuck up internet gangster and stop talking shit.
Title: Re: Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,
Post by: Jome on February 02, 2009, 06:54:15 AM
You're late to the (bash-)party youngin, this has been done 187 times before, and it always ends up in a sausage-party.  :grumpy: