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Title: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Lunatic on February 19, 2009, 06:03:19 PM
They easily currently have the best set of producers doing so many tracks

Shawty Redd, Justice League, Midnite Black, Drumma Boy, Cool & Dre, The Runners, Nard & B, Don Cannon, etc.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: herpes on February 19, 2009, 06:20:12 PM
No region is on top anymore b/c majority of these mainstream cats drop absolute garbage.  And the south is on top b/c majority of people are absolute sheep.  So the will do whatever the media tells them to.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Lunatic on February 19, 2009, 06:35:18 PM
No region is on top anymore b/c majority of these mainstream cats drop absolute garbage.  And the south is on top b/c majority of people are absolute sheep.  So the will do whatever the media tells them to.
there is a region on top and that goes by the same criteria its always gone by; record sales and strength of popularity
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: DTG Entertainment on February 19, 2009, 06:46:58 PM
No region is on top anymore b/c majority of these mainstream cats drop absolute garbage.  And the south is on top b/c majority of people are absolute sheep.  So the will do whatever the media tells them to.
there is a region on top and that goes by the same criteria its always gone by; record sales and strength of popularity

Indeed, because 95 and 96, the West and East was competing for that top spot. After that, the East Coast took over for a little while and the West slacked off a bit while still being some what consistent. In the 2,000's shit was still on the East tip rap wise then around 03 - 04, the south really made it in a big way. So, yeah - the south is on top for a lot of trash, some decent dudes, catchy hooks, and in Bishop's words "Little Ass Kids". Lol.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Invincible on February 19, 2009, 06:58:47 PM
No region is on top anymore b/c majority of these mainstream cats drop absolute garbage.  And the south is on top b/c majority of people are absolute sheep.  So the will do whatever the media tells them to.

So true because virtually no-one has a mind of their own anymore. If a song is big, they jump all over it cos its the in track right now. Sometimes they can be actually pretty good, but more often than not, the songs are pretty shit.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 19, 2009, 06:59:48 PM
I completely agree.the south has an amazing Musical landscape.its true that lyrically they aren't the greatest but their are some that hold it down.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: herpes on February 19, 2009, 07:32:45 PM
No region is on top anymore b/c majority of these mainstream cats drop absolute garbage.  And the south is on top b/c majority of people are absolute sheep.  So the will do whatever the media tells them to.
there is a region on top and that goes by the same criteria its always gone by; record sales and strength of popularity

First of all records used to sell because it was truly good music, and that goes for every genre of music.  Not because the media tells us what to buy.  And the fact you put so much emphasis on sales shows me you are a new hip hop b/c back int he day sales didn't dictate who was hot or not.  Nas was called the next Rakim and was all over NY after illmatic.  Yet the album didn't even go gold in the first year and it recently went platinum 3-4 years ago.  But it is regarded as one of the best rap albums of all time.  It shows you how pathetic rap is now, back in the day skills put you on top, not sales.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 19, 2009, 07:44:29 PM
How many artists have come out of the east recently?not many and the ones that have are garbage.when maino is one of your best your in trouble.the west has the biggest core of quality new artists right now but none are getting the push they need
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Lunatic on February 19, 2009, 07:52:11 PM
No region is on top anymore b/c majority of these mainstream cats drop absolute garbage.  And the south is on top b/c majority of people are absolute sheep.  So the will do whatever the media tells them to.
there is a region on top and that goes by the same criteria its always gone by; record sales and strength of popularity

First of all records used to sell because it was truly good music, and that goes for every genre of music.  Not because the media tells us what to buy.  And the fact you put so much emphasis on sales shows me you are a new hip hop b/c back int he day sales didn't dictate who was hot or not.  Nas was called the next Rakim and was all over NY after illmatic.  Yet the album didn't even go gold in the first year and it recently went platinum 3-4 years ago.  But it is regarded as one of the best rap albums of all time.  It shows you how pathetic rap is now, back in the day skills put you on top, not sales.
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but whats good music is strictly opinion. we can't dictate that for everyone. that doesnt make me a "new" fan it just means i fully realize that. im a young cat but have a diversified taste; i like a lot of the new shit but my favs are nas, ice cube and scarface so clearly im more of an old school head. But when regions were most popular it was always the 1s that sold the most; when LA was on top u had Dre, Snoop, Cube, Pac etc all making good music yes, but it sold millions of records. thats just what the south is doing right now and its why on they're on top. and as dude said, its not like the east is putting a plethora of good material; all the good guys cant get albums out. when mims is the last "new" ny rapper that had a big hit, i'll gladly take my southern shit.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: westsiderider323 on February 19, 2009, 08:06:22 PM
i dont give a fuck im from LA and i bump houston shit i bump Screw and all that houston rap is just bangin i bet if i ask people around if they know who Z-Ro, ESG, Lil O etc. is they wont have any idea theres of course southern shit thats impossible to listen to but houston/new orleans shit (exludin "new lil wayne") is mainly tolerable
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on February 19, 2009, 10:33:20 PM
the west was on top when you went platinum in week and the music was considered classic, and still is 15 years later.....the south is on top during the worst possible time in the history of the culture, when its been proclaimed dead, and nobody buys albums any more, thus nobody goes platinum anymore.....so you tell me whats better: to be on top during what is considered the best era of music, or to be on top when its on its way out, on its last legs....
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 19, 2009, 10:36:52 PM
damn that was some of the realest shit said
if they cant read between the lines of what you said, then damn!!!
and ill take the first choice of havin a crown for when rap muzik meant something not on its last fall 
and ti's muzik will never come close to what scarface has done
face might be from the south (eventho some claim texas is southwest) regardless he made some of the dopest muzik that will live on forever.
t.i. is a newcomer (years in the game)
dont throw face in the pile of south artists. he dont count cuz hes makin dope muzik and has been (decades in the game)



the west was on top when you went platinum in week and the music was considered classic, and still is 15 years later.....the south is on top during the worst possible time in the history of the culture, when its been proclaimed dead, and nobody buys albums any more, thus nobody goes platinum anymore.....so you tell me whats better: to be on top during what is considered the best era of music, or to be on top when its on its way out, on its last legs....
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Kool Beenz on February 19, 2009, 10:41:39 PM
Pimp C said it bets

[Intro: Pimp C]
Uh! It's really goin down in the South bitch!
Yeah nigga! We know hip-hop and rap and all that shit started in the
muthafuckin East
Knalmsayin? Then it went to the West coast and they did it a little bit better
Knalmsayin? But now it's our time to shine down here NIGGA!
Knalmsayin? So since y'all niggaz keep sayin we ain't real hip-hop down here
We don't wanna be down with you bitch ass niggaz!
So y'all stay up there with that BULLshit!
This country rap tunes down here nigga!
Young Pimp! Young Bun! Underground Kingz!
All the O.G.'s that's recognizing the real, I got love for y'all
But all you bitch ass niggaz talkin down in ya records, you can eat a DICK!
Hold up!
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 19, 2009, 10:43:38 PM
another artist
pimp-c shits on t.i.'s career
two different artists even tho t.i. wants the crown
he can have the crown, but pimp-c would rap circles round him while hes locked up in PC
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Hey Ma on February 20, 2009, 12:23:53 AM
Good beats are one thing, but I don't like how most of the south raps like some fuckin disco club promoters. It's the same tired ass rhymes about sex, money, and nightclubs. Pimp C dissed Atlanta for a reason it's a shame that even though everybody mourned him they didn't heed what he was saying. Atlanta music is gay as hell for the most part and that's whats dominating the charts.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 20, 2009, 12:29:30 AM
jus cuz its winnin in the charts dont mean shit
scarface dont sell records, but hes one of the best if not possibly the best rapper there is
hes from the south, but he raps how he wants. he is his own boss unike jeezy, t.i, etc.. there muzik is for teenagers and clubs and complain that they had no freedom in the process of makin that album
fuck tha industry




Good beats are one thing, but I don't like how most of the south raps like some fuckin disco club promoters. It's the same tired ass rhymes about sex, money, and nightclubs. Pimp C dissed Atlanta for a reason it's a shame that even though everybody mourned him they didn't heed what he was saying. Atlanta music is gay as hell for the most part and that's whats dominating the charts.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Hey Ma on February 20, 2009, 12:38:31 AM
jus cuz its winnin in the charts dont mean shit
scarface dont sell records, but hes one of the best if not possibly the best rapper there is
hes from the south, but he raps how he wants. he is his own boss unike jeezy, t.i, etc.. there muzik is for teenagers and clubs and complain that they had no freedom in the process of makin that album
fuck tha industry




Good beats are one thing, but I don't like how most of the south raps like some fuckin disco club promoters. It's the same tired ass rhymes about sex, money, and nightclubs. Pimp C dissed Atlanta for a reason it's a shame that even though everybody mourned him they didn't heed what he was saying. Atlanta music is gay as hell for the most part and that's whats dominating the charts.

yeah pretty much. It is mind boggling though when every now and then you see people talking like TI or Jeezy are amazing artists like Face or UGK. But hey, the world needs ditch diggers too I guess.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 20, 2009, 12:44:23 AM
its fuckin dumb
Face alone should never be put
in the same sentence as jeezy, t.i. wayne (cept for now even tho i entered it)
but scarface is possibly one of the best if not the best that ever rapped
hes up there, and whats great is that hes still rappin, i hope, truly hope he comes back. 
but t.i. come on, thats an insult to what face has done the last 2 decades. 
t.i. is fantasy muzik, talkin bout hes been thuggin, you been thuggin and look at all the fame jus to get you some short year you supposedly gon do which might be reduced.
point is i am grateful for what the greatest have done.  the greatest cant release muzik forever but at least i have their classics.  one of their albums are better than most rappers careers.  so again you can call yourself the king that dont mean shit. make some revolutionary muzik like scarface has, then youll be considered a legend, a true king.
until then your jus another crumb on the table 
THATS WHY ITS FUCK THA INDUSTRY



jus cuz its winnin in the charts dont mean shit
scarface dont sell records, but hes one of the best if not possibly the best rapper there is
hes from the south, but he raps how he wants. he is his own boss unike jeezy, t.i, etc.. there muzik is for teenagers and clubs and complain that they had no freedom in the process of makin that album
fuck tha industry




Good beats are one thing, but I don't like how most of the south raps like some fuckin disco club promoters. It's the same tired ass rhymes about sex, money, and nightclubs. Pimp C dissed Atlanta for a reason it's a shame that even though everybody mourned him they didn't heed what he was saying. Atlanta music is gay as hell for the most part and that's whats dominating the charts.

yeah pretty much. It is mind boggling though when every now and then you see people talking like TI or Jeezy are amazing artists like Face or UGK. But hey, the world needs ditch diggers too I guess.
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Meho on February 20, 2009, 02:19:23 AM
They easily currently have the best set of producers doing so many tracks

Shawty Redd, Justice League, Midnite Black, Drumma Boy, Cool & Dre, The Runners, Nard & B, Don Cannon, etc.

Shawty Redd - garbage
Justice League - very dope
Midnite Black - alright
Drummy Boy - garbage
Cool & Dre - hit or miss (miss most of the time)
The Runners (1 dope beat per 10)
Nard & B - only heard like 2 tracks from them, they're alright
Don Cannon - dope
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 20, 2009, 02:29:56 AM
You think drumma boy and shawyt red are garbage?your crazy
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 20, 2009, 09:03:59 AM
You think drumma boy and shawyt red are garbage?your crazy


They're white wat do u expect.  Even Saigon was on "The Deal" last night and he said he loved Hip Hop in it's current state.  All these tired ass whiners talkin about The South this & The South that (and can only think of TI/Wayne/SB/or some other pop star act like D4L) always bitchin'.  But really it's only just a couple of people on here.  Most of us recognize wassup.  You can't expect people who milk goats and drink green beer to understand wassup (in it's entirety).  You know wat I'm sayin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gahh02_4v78&feature=PlayList&p=E9CDCF3570CC7670&playnext=1&index=30 But you can't get mad at em anymore, this is 09'- if you ain't wit' it go listen to your old ass records and live in 94' and keep suckin on those cow utters they mama call a titty and dont pass em the blunt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5WWRiGT4w8

There's more to the South besides the usual suspects like Face, UGK, TIP, Wayne, Juve, BG, Paul Wall, Cham, and all the other "mainstream" acts.  Ya'll fools just don't look 4 it.  It's out there like stars in the midnight sky. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkRQ628Nqxs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYMIQyYYcuE&feature=related
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Þŕiņçë on February 20, 2009, 09:10:03 AM
They easily currently have the best set of producers doing so many tracks

Shawty Redd, Justice League, Midnite Black, Drumma Boy, Cool & Dre, The Runners, Nard & B, Don Cannon, etc.


Only name i recognize is Cool & Dre and they aren't even very good producers. Not a hater but i don't see any reason why the SOUTH would be "on top". I fucking hate down south music and i feel like the artists that came out of there had a lot to do with why Hip-Hop today is so commercial and sucks ass. I feel like the east, midwest, and the west all have their commercial artists and underground artists...But down south? Mother fuckers are ASS. Everyone sounds the same and their flow is so lazy and slow...Down South is WAY behind the times to be honest, but i guess thats what people want. Music they don't have to think about they can just dance to it and when the hook comes on they can say like 2 words that they remember from it while throwing their hands up. Lets face it - If it wasn't for drugs and alcohol....half of this bullshit "music" wouldn't make it to the radio/mainstream.


Oh and @ Strength and popularity..... you've got to be kidding me. Thats like saying, "Yeah im the most popular kid in highschool! -Although i am failing all my classes and won't go to college after school. Then i will probably get my GF pregnant and work the same minimum wage job for the rest of my life..but hey, at least i was cool in highschool.


^lol im a fuccing spaz that doesn't make sense at times BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IM SAYING YADADA??
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 20, 2009, 09:38:34 AM
They easily currently have the best set of producers doing so many tracks

Shawty Redd, Justice League, Midnite Black, Drumma Boy, Cool & Dre, The Runners, Nard & B, Don Cannon, etc.


Only name i recognize is Cool & Dre and they aren't even very good producers. Not a hater but i don't see any reason why the SOUTH would be "on top". I fucking hate down south music and i feel like the artists that came out of there had a lot to do with why Hip-Hop today is so commercial and sucks ass. I feel like the east, midwest, and the west all have their commercial artists and underground artists...But down south? Mother fuckers are ASS. Everyone sounds the same and their flow is so lazy and slow...Down South is WAY behind the times to be honest, but i guess thats what people want. Music they don't have to think about they can just dance to it and when the hook comes on they can say like 2 words that they remember from it while throwing their hands up. Lets face it - If it wasn't for drugs and alcohol....half of this bullshit "music" wouldn't make it to the radio/mainstream.


Oh and @ Strength and popularity..... you've got to be kidding me. Thats like saying, "Yeah im the most popular kid in highschool! -Although i am failing all my classes and won't go to college after school. Then i will probably get my GF pregnant and work the same minimum wage job for the rest of my life..but hey, at least i was cool in highschool.


^lol im a fuccing spaz that doesn't make sense at times BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IM SAYING YADADA??


...yeah your definatly White
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: Þŕiņçë on February 20, 2009, 09:45:43 AM
Wow you figured that out all by yourself?  ::)
Title: Re: The South Is On Top Because...
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 20, 2009, 10:29:29 AM
Wow you figured that out all by yourself?  ::)

Good 1  ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJQss0Flwyw