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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Detox Iz Not Active on February 27, 2009, 03:19:45 PM
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This is NOT a thread bashing Dre in anyway, it's just that I feel Dre doesn't make westcoast sounding beats anymore, no g funk, no cali sounding shit, nothing
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if you're speaking of old school west coast, then yes
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dre cant make west coast anything
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whats up with you and all these "its safe to say" threads? U can't be mo original den that? BTW I agree with u to a degree.
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i think he just doesn't want to anymore. he is trying to re-invent himself again.
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The glory days of G funk are dead and gone. I can't believe some still haven't gotten over it.
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The glory days of G funk are dead and gone. I can't believe some still haven't gotten over it.
you can have a westcoast beat without it being g funk
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Samples are too expensive now.. ;)
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He is one of the damn founders of the "west coast" beat so of course he can. He's evolved though and you just might not like his direction. Dre has been in the game for like 20 years and he's expected to sound like his 90- 95 era for all of them? I dunno. I will always appreciate the classics, but I like to hear some changes as well.
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It's funny how some people are stuck in the past for all eternity.. or they're just constantly 10 years behind the rest of the world.
Back when 2001 dropped, you had ninjaz going "It's alright, but it certainly ain't no Chronic, where's the G-funk? Where's the soul?"
When Detox drops, they will all say stuff like "It's nothing compared to the the G-funk on the Chronic or the thumping classic Westcoast sound on 2001"
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haha^^^
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if 'grow up' isn't a westcoast beat i dunno what is.
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They should just make an official "Internet Complainers' Guy To Westcoast Beats" so Dr. Dre has a guideline of how his music SHOULD sound in order to maintain his credibility with people who post on his threads talking about how "they are OFFICIALLY done with Detox" every other week.
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if 'grow up' isn't a westcoast beat i dunno what is.
Could be from anywhere..
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2001 had nice beats, but now his beats sound like anything else out there
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Dr.Dre is prolly laughing at yall now, dude is on another level.. dude changes the sound of hiphop everytime he drops something, If I want to hear a west coast classic sound I'll go back to the archives or I will listen to some Xl Middleton
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that "i am hip hop" joint that leaked sounded "west coast".
but dre moved on. the next genre-defining sound he comes up with will be labelled "west coast" anyways. g-funk was 15 years ago.
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dre can do what he wants. he still the greatest.
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This is NOT a thread bashing Dre in anyway, it's just that I feel Dre doesn't make westcoast sounding beats anymore, no g funk, no cali sounding shit, nothing
what is a west coast beat today? because what used to be west coast beat back in the day might not be a west beat today . so dr dre might be making the be new style west coast beats not the old school style that you are used to & stuck in .
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This Is Detox was def. a west coast beat.
At least Dre is active. I haven't heard pooh and battlecat for a long damn time.
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and were not apes anymore either, it's just evolution.
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YEAH THAT SHIT IS FUCKIN DOPE
This Is Detox was def. a west coast beat.
At least Dre is active. I haven't heard pooh and battlecat for a long damn time.
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It's funny how some people are stuck in the past for all eternity.. or they're just constantly 10 years behind the rest of the world.
Back when 2001 dropped, you had ninjaz going "It's alright, but it certainly ain't no Chronic, where's the G-funk? Where's the soul?"
When Detox drops, they will all say stuff like "It's nothing compared to the the G-funk on the Chronic or the thumping classic Westcoast sound on 2001"
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They should just make an official "Internet Complainers' Guy To Westcoast Beats" so Dr. Dre has a guideline of how his music SHOULD sound in order to maintain his credibility with people who post on his threads talking about how "they are OFFICIALLY done with Detox" every other week.
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haha noone is done wit DRETOX
EVERYONE WILL BE WAITIN FOR IT
and its droppin in 2012
DRETOX WILL NOT LOSE
C.O.D. OR NUTHIN
They should just make an official "Internet Complainers' Guy To Westcoast Beats" so Dr. Dre has a guideline of how his music SHOULD sound in order to maintain his credibility with people who post on his threads talking about how "they are OFFICIALLY done with Detox" every other week.
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This is NOT a thread bashing Dre in anyway, it's just that I feel Dre doesn't make westcoast sounding beats anymore, no g funk, no cali sounding shit, nothing
what is a west coast beat today? because what used to be west coast beat back in the day might not be a west beat today . so dr dre might be making the be new style west coast beats not the old school style that you are used to & stuck in .
shit that stands out, the shit he is making now i couldn't tell the difference if it were a lil wayne track, he is a painfully average producer, but once he drops something everyone is on his nuts.
honestly kanye beats stand out more than dre beats and i hate kanye
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I'm sure he can, but "does he want to?" is the real question. I cant blame him though, no sense working with one style of sound your whole career. it would get boring.
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G FUNK IS DEAD
LET GO
dre shit is hella westcoast
maybe you aint coast enough to digg it
that "Topless" shit is hella westcoast
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It's funny how some people are stuck in the past for all eternity.. or they're just constantly 10 years behind the rest of the world.
Back when 2001 dropped, you had ninjaz going "It's alright, but it certainly ain't no Chronic, where's the G-funk? Where's the soul?"
When Detox drops, they will all say stuff like "It's nothing compared to the the G-funk on the Chronic or the thumping classic Westcoast sound on 2001"
yeah, not to mention there are still plenty of producers with an old school twist in their sound.
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Wheres the west coast sound going though? Maybe living on the west coast got yall deluded but the WEST COAST HIP HOP SCNE IS PLAYED THE FUCK OUT! The last west coast rapper to blow up was Game and although his lyrics are extremely west coast orintated his beats are hardly all replicars of the old gfunk or 2001 sound.
Id be disappointed if Dre was making beats that fit in witht hte current west sound - the fact he's taking it in another direction (with varying degrees of success) is a GOOD thing. Quik or Daz or Warren G can continue dropping G Funk albums but at the end of the day whose checking for them?
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Damn...It amazes me how people still, after all these years don't understand how different Dre's way of thinking is compared to other West Coast producers and most rappers....I don't know if Dre produced Topless or not but the lyrics say it all....Dre does not limit his mind to just the west coast as far as who he works with or his style of producing music..Dude has been there and done that a long time ago... I love DJ Quik and other WC producers and he might be better than Dre at westcoast beats but outside of the west, nobody is checking for Quik cause he does not think "Topless" when it comes to producing...Still stuck in "westcoast beats" mode...Same with Premo on the eastcoast...Great producer who has always been stuck in "eastcoast beats" mode....This is what sets Dre apart cause Dre is gonna always expand his style to whatever..Even if WC fans are critical of him for experimenting...Some might prefer Quik, others Premo but it's not by accident that Dre has always outsold them units wise not to mention probably richer than both them dudes combined....Dre is the "Topless" producer.
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no he cant.
none of them can.
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Wheres the west coast sound going though? Maybe living on the west coast got yall deluded but the WEST COAST HIP HOP SCNE IS PLAYED THE FUCK OUT! The last west coast rapper to blow up was Game and although his lyrics are extremely west coast orintated his beats are hardly all replicars of the old gfunk or 2001 sound.
Id be disappointed if Dre was making beats that fit in witht hte current west sound - the fact he's taking it in another direction (with varying degrees of success) is a GOOD thing. Quik or Daz or Warren G can continue dropping G Funk albums but at the end of the day whose checking for them?
Game has the hottest styles of "WestCoast" music out there (really we should stop labeling & using this and every other sound to just only 1 coast but...). All 3 of his albums and his mixtapes have that fresh sound to it. and it has that vibe to it, I don't see what you're talking about. you have to be bullshittin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAqMW-aqZbI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeYt7gb7Viw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dynBhKLKUmw - are these not "west" enough 4 u
There's alot of eastcoast records that would sound better than the original if remix'd with a laiback westside groove
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What Dr. Dre puts out is "WEST COAST", every time he drops an album it changes what defines "westcoast" music....no matter what it sounds like, even if its not sounding like G funk of 15 years ago. When I listen to 2001 I do not hear G Funk. So if he makes a cd with polka sounding beats, that IS west coast and everyone will follow. He's the only one with that power.
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Niggaz4Life wasn't westcoast beats. It was just beats conforming to the art form, yet the album was fully recognized as a westcasost album.
Even though the west does/did had a sound I think the content, song style makes an album more "wesotcoast sounding" than anything in this age of hip hop, as well as back then, more so now though.
Dre new production is not a different, per se, than what took place on Niggaz4Life, Chronic but just doing him in his modern way. Besides, he was the west coast sound, so maybe what he's doing now IS the new west coast sound.
Oh yeah, Game does nothing "westcoast" beat wise.
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Niggaz4Life wasn't westcoast beats. It was just beats conforming to the art form, yet the album was fully recognized as a westcasost album.
Even though the west does/did had a sound I think the content, song style makes an album more "wesotcoast sounding" than anything in this age of hip hop, as well as back then, more so now though.
Dre new production is not a different, per se, than what took place on Niggaz4Life, Chronic but just doing him in his modern way. Besides, he was the west coast sound, so maybe what he's doing now IS the new west coast sound.
Oh yeah, Game does nothing "westcoast" beat wise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-rnPv1F3Y & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGSWoGqyMok&feature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTI4rpFbdE&feature=related don't have that groove to it? you don't have an ear for the music if you don't think so... fact
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Niggaz4Life wasn't westcoast beats. It was just beats conforming to the art form, yet the album was fully recognized as a westcasost album.
Even though the west does/did had a sound I think the content, song style makes an album more "wesotcoast sounding" than anything in this age of hip hop, as well as back then, more so now though.
Dre new production is not a different, per se, than what took place on Niggaz4Life, Chronic but just doing him in his modern way. Besides, he was the west coast sound, so maybe what he's doing now IS the new west coast sound.
Oh yeah, Game does nothing "westcoast" beat wise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-rnPv1F3Y & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGSWoGqyMok&feature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTI4rpFbdE&feature=related don't have that groove to it? you don't have an ear for the music if you don't think so... fact
Uh, What? I have no idea what is your point by those links or your what u said.
Nonetheless, I'm certain i have more of an ear for music than you do.
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Dr. Dre basically created the term "west coast beat." Twice. With The Chronic and 2001. Obviously he is trying to do it again. Whatever Dre comes up with will be the new west coast sound. Why would he continue to make beats that are 10-20 years old? From what I've heard so far, it seems this album's production is going to be piano intensive. IMO thats dope. Just wondering, how does his production sound like everything else out? It sounds like nothing out.
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seriously g funk is like disco.. it's dead.. get over it
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Dr. Dre basically created the term "west coast beat." Twice. With The Chronic and 2001. Obviously he is trying to do it again. Whatever Dre comes up with will be the new west coast sound. Why would he continue to make beats that are 10-20 years old? From what I've heard so far, it seems this album's production is going to be piano intensive. IMO thats dope. Just wondering, how does his production sound like everything else out? It sounds like nothing out.