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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: slickrik2002 on February 27, 2009, 05:06:27 PM
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i see most of their music as soundin the same. i respect all of them but Crook could do a lot better if he just reached out to some other artists on his coast
i'd much rather see a westcoast supergroup of hmmm Crooked I, Eastwood, Roscoe and somebody else like Shade or Tri-Star(i'd say kurupt but he's supposedly workin on about 10 projects already). this would be a hella better album and sell more too as long as they can put out at least one video and not just on the internet
if any of you ever run into them let em know so they can get this shit started ha
but for real there's no way this group could fail
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NAH THIS IS THE PROBLEM
crooked is one of the best rappers there is and he shits on all rappers you mentioned
matter fact hes better than
joey
joel
royce
but its better to have a supergroup coast to coast so you can get a mindset of whats goin on coast 2 coast unless it was some crazy shit like
crooked
sly boogy
ras kass
jay o felony
or something wit them involved
but crooked>>>>>roscoe, tristar,joe budden, eastwood (current), and many more
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NAH THIS IS THE PROBLEM
crooked is one of the best rappers there is and he shits on all rappers you mentioned
matter fact hes better than
joey
joel
royce
but its better to have a supergroup coast to coast so you can get a mindset of whats goin on coast 2 coast unless it was some crazy shit like
crooked
sly boogy
ras kass
jay o felony
or something wit them involved
but crooked>>>>>roscoe, tristar,joe budden, eastwood (current), and many more
there's no "fact", it's all opinions. my opinion is that royce is the best out of the group.
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merging all fan bases together will be the best for crooked, people that listen to budden/royce/joell never heard of him before, good exposure for him
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yeah royce is dope, but
NAH THIS IS THE PROBLEM
crooked is one of the best rappers there is and he shits on all rappers you mentioned
matter fact hes better than
joey
joel
royce
but its better to have a supergroup coast to coast so you can get a mindset of whats goin on coast 2 coast unless it was some crazy shit like
crooked
sly boogy
ras kass
jay o felony
or something wit them involved
but crooked>>>>>roscoe, tristar,joe budden, eastwood (current), and many more
there's no "fact", it's all opinions. my opinion is that royce is the best out of the group.
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NAH THIS IS THE PROBLEM
crooked is one of the best rappers there is and he shits on all rappers you mentioned
matter fact hes better than
joey
joel
royce
but its better to have a supergroup coast to coast so you can get a mindset of whats goin on coast 2 coast unless it was some crazy shit like
crooked
sly boogy
ras kass
jay o felony
or something wit them involved
but crooked>>>>>roscoe, tristar,joe budden, eastwood (current), and many more
i'll give you that crook shits on them lyrically and a better overall rapper but thats the thing, the best songs don't have to be all superb lyrics. if he's with roscoe and eastwood then yeah he can stand out as the mc but it doesn't mean the other two won't show up strong on a song with him
and i can understand that with having ortiz, royce and budden they bring all their fanbases together which is a good thing but ultimately the best music will win the most fans in the end. and in my opinion which might as well just be the facts is that they would make a much better album than slaughterhouse. any westcoast production they would have would bump harder than what slaughterhouse has brought to the table thus far
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but what theyve brought so far as been dope, much better than what roscoe and crooked could bring
roscoe dont spit the same anymore
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NAH THIS IS THE PROBLEM
crooked is one of the best rappers there is and he shits on all rappers you mentioned
matter fact hes better than
joey
joel
royce
but its better to have a supergroup coast to coast so you can get a mindset of whats goin on coast 2 coast unless it was some crazy shit like
crooked
sly boogy
ras kass
jay o felony
or something wit them involved
but crooked>>>>>roscoe, tristar,joe budden, eastwood (current), and many more
i'll give you that crook shits on them lyrically and a better overall rapper but thats the thing, the best songs don't have to be all superb lyrics. if he's with roscoe and eastwood then yeah he can stand out as the mc but it doesn't mean the other two won't show up strong on a song with him
and i can understand that with having ortiz, royce and budden they bring all their fanbases together which is a good thing but ultimately the best music will win the most fans in the end. and in my opinion which might as well just be the facts is that they would make a much better album than slaughterhouse. any westcoast production they would have would bump harder than what slaughterhouse has brought to the table thus far
Well for the FANS (they must have good music if they have alot of those, right?) of the three artists u don't like in the group, I Would say their music is more about substance and providing a message, instead of just making songs that will bump in your car and make u feel like a gangsta...
So that is what it is.....
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"damn it feels good to be a gangsta"
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Whatever get's Crook a major label anything that actually work's I'm down.
#!*@ it, If it's Slaughterhouse so be it...
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NAH THIS IS THE PROBLEM
crooked is one of the best rappers there is and he shits on all rappers you mentioned
matter fact hes better than
joey
joel
royce
but its better to have a supergroup coast to coast so you can get a mindset of whats goin on coast 2 coast unless it was some crazy shit like
crooked
sly boogy
ras kass
jay o felony
or something wit them involved
but crooked>>>>>roscoe, tristar,joe budden, eastwood (current), and many more
i'll give you that crook shits on them lyrically and a better overall rapper but thats the thing, the best songs don't have to be all superb lyrics. if he's with roscoe and eastwood then yeah he can stand out as the mc but it doesn't mean the other two won't show up strong on a song with him
and i can understand that with having ortiz, royce and budden they bring all their fanbases together which is a good thing but ultimately the best music will win the most fans in the end. and in my opinion which might as well just be the facts is that they would make a much better album than slaughterhouse. any westcoast production they would have would bump harder than what slaughterhouse has brought to the table thus far
Well for the FANS (they must have good music if they have alot of those, right?) of the three artists u don't like in the group, I Would say their music is more about substance and providing a message, instead of just making songs that will bump in your car and make u feel like a gangsta...
So that is what it is.....
so are you speaking for the fans or are you saying that their music is better because it's all substance and having a message? i agree they have substance but are you sayin roscoe and eastwood don't? i think my point is that a better album would have BOTH substance and some gangsta shit! this can't be done with slaughterhouse but can be done with a westcoast supergroup
why settle for only one type of rap when you can get the best of both worlds?
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Ah there's no doubt about it that I'd rather see Crook in a supergroup with West Coast artists, but look how hard it is for the West right now. I think that he's hoping that since each emcee is from a different state that they are able to generate more fans.
BTW: The music IS insane, but Crook clearly outshines the other guys. Royce is my runner up though.
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I love all 4 artist even before the group started but crook has shined the brightest for me with Ortiz being runner up for me.and crooked is already in a west coast group no country for old men!
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I love all 4 artist even before the group started but crook has shined the brightest for me with Ortiz being runner up for me.and crooked is already in a west coast group no country for old men!
Yeah but is that No Country For Old Men ever dropping?
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want it too but doubt it and they gon look dumb for sayin they will drop it and it never droppin
I love all 4 artist even before the group started but crook has shined the brightest for me with Ortiz being runner up for me.and crooked is already in a west coast group no country for old men!
Yeah but is that No Country For Old Men ever dropping?
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crooked i
sly boogy
bishop lamount
That a make the best westcoast supergroup.Them the only rappers on the coast thats lyrical enough to hang with each other in the booth.of course crooked i is way better then them but all 3 of them is monsters.
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crooked i
sly boogy
bishop lamount
That a make the best westcoast supergroup.Them the only rappers on the coast thats lyrical enough to hang with each other in the booth.of course crooked i is way better then them but all 3 of them is monsters.
*bumps the Sly Boogy, Crooked and Kam "Keep On" *
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haha im listenin to rep da westcoast right now
damn shit is fuckin dope
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no hate but Royce def is in the same level wit crook.
I cant think of any other new west's than crook that is on Royce's level
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no hate but Royce def is in the same level wit crook.
I cant think of any other new west's than crook that is on Royce's level
It's all personal opinion when it comes down to it, but you right Royce IS an ill emcee, surely ain't no amature.
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yeah if royce goes in on muffuccaz
not sure if anyone on this coast can get him
cept for crooked
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NAH THIS IS THE PROBLEM
crooked is one of the best rappers there is and he shits on all rappers you mentioned
matter fact hes better than
joey
joel
royce
but its better to have a supergroup coast to coast so you can get a mindset of whats goin on coast 2 coast unless it was some crazy shit like
crooked
sly boogy
ras kass
jay o felony
or something wit them involved
but crooked>>>>>roscoe, tristar,joe budden, eastwood (current), and many more
i'll give you that crook shits on them lyrically and a better overall rapper but thats the thing, the best songs don't have to be all superb lyrics. if he's with roscoe and eastwood then yeah he can stand out as the mc but it doesn't mean the other two won't show up strong on a song with him
and i can understand that with having ortiz, royce and budden they bring all their fanbases together which is a good thing but ultimately the best music will win the most fans in the end. and in my opinion which might as well just be the facts is that they would make a much better album than slaughterhouse. any westcoast production they would have would bump harder than what slaughterhouse has brought to the table thus far
Well for the FANS (they must have good music if they have alot of those, right?) of the three artists u don't like in the group, I Would say their music is more about substance and providing a message, instead of just making songs that will bump in your car and make u feel like a gangsta...
So that is what it is.....
so are you speaking for the fans or are you saying that their music is better because it's all substance and having a message? i agree they have substance but are you sayin roscoe and eastwood don't? i think my point is that a better album would have BOTH substance and some gangsta shit! this can't be done with slaughterhouse but can be done with a westcoast supergroup
why settle for only one type of rap when you can get the best of both worlds?
I'm not saying they don't, I'm just saying the majority of those songs would be in the Gangsta category than the Conscious one... And if I had to choose one category it would be conscious.. That's why a more East Coast supergroup appeals to me more than a West Coast based one.. But Slaugherhouse is the best of both worlds like you say, cuz it's all regions and styles.... So what's your beef with them again?
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haha tha-leak was like back to the lecture at hand
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but damn im listenin to dungeon family right now and that super-group is fuckin crazy
imagine a westcoast super group like that?
on some 12 members typa shit?
not 4, not 8, fuckin 12?
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Whatever happened to cool breeze?I still bump his album every once in a while
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posed to be have been workin on muzik
im jus sayin tho, see the damn talent and crazy work ethic they had on that album
that album is crazy
that single was crazy
and they had unknown members in the group but they came thru wit heat
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i see most of their music as soundin the same. i respect all of them but Crook could do a lot better if he just reached out to some other artists on his coast
i'd much rather see a westcoast supergroup of hmmm Crooked I, Eastwood, Roscoe and somebody else like Shade or Tri-Star(i'd say kurupt but he's supposedly workin on about 10 projects already). this would be a hella better album and sell more too as long as they can put out at least one video and not just on the internet
if any of you ever run into them let em know so they can get this shit started ha
but for real there's no way this group could fail
I'm a huge West Coast fan but...what the fuck for? All of those dudes fell off big time. Everyone in Slaughterhouse is better than them as of right now. If Crooked I was going to do a West Coast Super-Group it should be with some cats like Game, Xzibit, and maybe Yukmouth or Techniec.
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yeah the westcoast version of dungeo family for me would have to be
Crooked I (death row flow)
Sly Boogy
Jay O Felony
Young Maylay
Eastwood (on his death row flow)
and some more
I mean that super song wit
e-white
snoop dogg
bad azz
kokane
warren g
daz
is bangin, so that would be a dope group too wit lil half dead & soopafly wit em
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This is part of the problem with West Coast die hard fans. The whole "coastal mentality". Example: Dre needs to quit working with artists outside the West Coast and focus on the West more.
I've never heard this said about DJ Premier, Timbo, Just Blaze, or any other producer for that matter. They're all out there networking with each other regardless of regional affiliation.
Truth is, Crooked I reps the W all day every day, even as a member of SlaughterHouse. It shows in the pictures and videos that are scattered across the internet. So it ain't like he's abandoning the coast. He's finally playing it smart and linking up with other niggas (dare I say, smarter business men than him) who actually have experience in releasing albums and networking with BIG NAME people from producers, other artists and industry people in general. Crooked I is benefitting the most in this group as far as potential business contacts and expanding his fanbase goes.
What does Crooked bring to the SlaughterHouse table on the business side of things? He doesn't have BIG NAME people on the West Coast for them to network with. Example: Royce has DJ Premier, Black Milk, Diddy and numerous other niggas who are considered somebody in the industry. Joe Budden is tight with a lot of radio personalities, like Shade 45 DJ's, Hot97 DJ's. Joell Ortiz is like the East Coast Bun B. Everybody loves him. He's worked with everyone from legends to up-and-comers Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, KRS-One, Fat Joe, The Lox, Saigon and the list goes on and on. So what does Crooked bring? Dre, NO. Snoop, NO. Cube, NO. Power106, NO. KDAY, NO. Contacts with other underground artists on the West, YES. The only thing Crooked really brings to SlaughterHouse is his skill as an MC and maybe a handful of fans from the West who might actually support them.
Last but not least Budden, Ortiz & Royce have all released retail albums.
So who is benefitting the most in the group?
It's one thing to not like the group for whatever reason. That's your choice. But it's another to dismiss the potential that the group has when you really look at it from a holistic perspective being that they are multi-regional and each member does have a cult following. And you can't deny that they're buzzing like crazy on the underground circuit. Like Joey told Miss Info after the SOB's show, "this ain't about what Hip Hop needs, the fans out there tonight let us know that this is what Hip Hop wants."
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i see most of their music as soundin the same. i respect all of them but Crook could do a lot better if he just reached out to some other artists on his coast
i'd much rather see a westcoast supergroup of hmmm Crooked I, Eastwood, Roscoe and somebody else like Shade or Tri-Star(i'd say kurupt but he's supposedly workin on about 10 projects already). this would be a hella better album and sell more too as long as they can put out at least one video and not just on the internet
if any of you ever run into them let em know so they can get this shit started ha
but for real there's no way this group could fail
in what world are you living?
on what planet would a "Crooked, eastwood, roscoe, and whoever else album" be better or sell better than a "crooked, joell, and buddens (roycs succs) album"?????
youre dreamin my nig
that other shit would definitely fail
joell is dope as fucc... niggaz gotta stop sleepin... him with crooked is ugly!!!!!
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People always need to bitch about something, don't they? :-\
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i see most of their music as soundin the same. i respect all of them but Crook could do a lot better if he just reached out to some other artists on his coast
i'd much rather see a westcoast supergroup of hmmm Crooked I, Eastwood, Roscoe and somebody else like Shade or Tri-Star(i'd say kurupt but he's supposedly workin on about 10 projects already). this would be a hella better album and sell more too as long as they can put out at least one video and not just on the internet
if any of you ever run into them let em know so they can get this shit started ha
but for real there's no way this group could fail
in what world are you living?
on what planet would a "Crooked, eastwood, roscoe, and whoever else album" be better or sell better than a "crooked, joell, and buddens (roycs succs) album"?????
youre dreamin my nig
that other shit would definitely fail
joell is dope as fucc... niggaz gotta stop sleepin... him with crooked is ugly!!!!!
Hell yeah, I'm feeling Ortiz most from the group too! So sick with it! For me Budden is the weak link but he can hold up pretty well.
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Budden comes off the weakest just because he doesn't have the vocal presence as the other three.but when you listen to his solo shit he is a beast.not to mention one of the deepest rappers ever.no wonder he can't be on a major.each album and mixtape is his soul in audio form.
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croock is killllllaaaaaaaaaaa 8)
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i see most of their music as soundin the same.
your judging it off of two songs? plus they aint even been together that long. give it time is my opinion. also muh fuckas need to stop sleepin on joey(especially west coast cats). if you aint up on dude cop that Padded Room,or Half-Way house and the mood muzik series is a given.
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i think ull should be thankful that theres a west coast rapper in the group. they coulda easily had another ny rapper in there and left the west coast unrepresented like the south
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This is part of the problem with West Coast die hard fans. The whole "coastal mentality". Example: Dre needs to quit working with artists outside the West Coast and focus on the West more.
I've never heard this said about DJ Premier, Timbo, Just Blaze, or any other producer for that matter. They're all out there networking with each other regardless of regional affiliation.
Truth is, Crooked I reps the W all day every day, even as a member of SlaughterHouse. It shows in the pictures and videos that are scattered across the internet. So it ain't like he's abandoning the coast. He's finally playing it smart and linking up with other niggas (dare I say, smarter business men than him) who actually have experience in releasing albums and networking with BIG NAME people from producers, other artists and industry people in general. Crooked I is benefitting the most in this group as far as potential business contacts and expanding his fanbase goes.
What does Crooked bring to the SlaughterHouse table on the business side of things? He doesn't have BIG NAME people on the West Coast for them to network with. Example: Royce has DJ Premier, Black Milk, Diddy and numerous other niggas who are considered somebody in the industry. Joe Budden is tight with a lot of radio personalities, like Shade 45 DJ's, Hot97 DJ's. Joell Ortiz is like the East Coast Bun B. Everybody loves him. He's worked with everyone from legends to up-and-comers Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, KRS-One, Fat Joe, The Lox, Saigon and the list goes on and on. So what does Crooked bring? Dre, NO. Snoop, NO. Cube, NO. Power106, NO. KDAY, NO. Contacts with other underground artists on the West, YES. The only thing Crooked really brings to SlaughterHouse is his skill as an MC and maybe a handful of fans from the West who might actually support them.
Last but not least Budden, Ortiz & Royce have all released retail albums.
So who is benefitting the most in the group?
It's one thing to not like the group for whatever reason. That's your choice. But it's another to dismiss the potential that the group has when you really look at it from a holistic perspective being that they are multi-regional and each member does have a cult following. And you can't deny that they're buzzing like crazy on the underground circuit. Like Joey told Miss Info after the SOB's show, "this ain't about what Hip Hop needs, the fans out there tonight let us know that this is what Hip Hop wants."
that's word.