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Title: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Kool Beenz on May 02, 2009, 01:17:52 AM
just cus he raps like Pac?

dude is from Dallas, Texas and reps Texas on most of his songs
ive never heard dude rep the West

Jevon Jones was born in Dallas, Texas. His father worked as a preacher.[1] As an Oak Cliff native, Jones started rapping in the early 1980s at the age of 10 and competed in rap battles on the local circuit. In the early 1990s, Jones and former Dallas Cowboys player, Kevin Smith, formed their first record label.[2]

http://www.youtube.com/v/C86SBPWtyKE&hl=en&fs=1

he says in this song he from texas...
he aint West Coast...


explain...?
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Mietek23 on May 02, 2009, 01:30:13 AM
Yea, Tha Realest was born in Dallas, Texas but lives in California for many years now. He reps the West Coast in most of his songs and it ain't about his voice dude. Just check out some of his songs like "2 Live & Die 4 Tha Westside", "West Coast" etc - he's rappin' about the West in almost every song.

Say what you say but Tha Realest has been representing the West Coast to the fullest since his Death Row dayz... that's why people label him "West Coast".
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Kool Beenz on May 02, 2009, 01:36:43 AM
im not hating or nothing dude...
i havent listened to many Realest tracks
but kinda sucks how he reps texas and the west...
but tx and Cali has always had a great bond and collabs together

thanks for educating me
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Mietek23 on May 02, 2009, 01:43:58 AM
im not hating or nothing dude...
i havent listened to many Realest tracks
but kinda sucks how he reps texas and the west...
but tx and Cali has always had a great bond and collabs together

thanks for educating me

I ain't calling you a hater bro - it's all good :)

I think Tha Realest just stay true to his birthplace and where he lives now by reppin' both - the west and the south..
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Cali Climate on May 02, 2009, 01:53:26 AM
I didnt think many people listened to him.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: wardy on May 02, 2009, 01:59:23 AM
A lot of rappers that rep the westcoast are actually from other places but moved to the west when they were younger and have repped it since a few well known ones are Kurupt, Xzibit and off course 2Pac
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Mietek23 on May 02, 2009, 01:59:51 AM
I didnt think many people listened to him.

Well, if you can ignore the bullshit talk about the dude, you can actually discover a good artist with a lot of great songs :)
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Kool Beenz on May 02, 2009, 02:02:37 AM
yall dont get me wrong i aint hatin dude...
i just got confused...

but yeah some of the best west coast rappers aint from the dub... such as Kurupt and pac

but like Devin has to be one of the best artist to ever come out of texas but he really is from Florida...

i get it now...
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 02, 2009, 03:56:30 AM
I didnt think many people listened to him.

Well, if you can ignore the bullshit talk about the dude, you can actually discover a good artist with a lot of great songs :)

yep.he got some real good stuff.
but "erry now and then" is his WACKEST song.

@ threadstarter: if you lissten to realest´s songs u will know he reps the west (too).
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 02, 2009, 04:47:23 AM
Exactly and when you think of the sound of new York you think DJ premiere.but premo is from Texas.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 02, 2009, 05:32:12 AM
I didnt think many people listened to him.

Well, if you can ignore the bullshit talk about the dude, you can actually discover a good artist with a lot of great songs :)

yep.he got some real good stuff.
but "erry now and then" is his WACKEST song.

@ threadstarter: if you lissten to realest´s songs u will know he reps the west (too).

I don't know about that - I liked Eurry Now Then.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: davidr on May 02, 2009, 05:34:19 AM
wasn't it Tha Realest who leaked all the free 2pac material or sold to dante and litt?
They have free 2pac titled as Tha Realest leak?
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 02, 2009, 05:35:38 AM
Yeah I liked eurry now and then as well that shit bangs
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 02, 2009, 05:36:52 AM
Yeah I liked eurry now and then as well that shit bangs

+ 1
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Gamestarr on May 02, 2009, 06:59:36 AM
Anybody got some links to some shit with him? Never heard of dude.. and this joint is pretty dope..
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Michael on May 02, 2009, 11:22:20 AM
The DOC is Texas and hes considered Westcoast. Just cause of his association i guess
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: scarface2oh4 on May 02, 2009, 11:41:31 AM
A lot of rappers that rep the westcoast are actually from other places but moved to the west when they were younger and have repped it since a few well known ones are Kurupt, Xzibit and off course 2Pac
i was jsut about to mention dem dudes.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Enigma on May 02, 2009, 01:26:32 PM
Check out www.tharealest.com or www.myspace.com/tharealest there's plenty of tracks to listen to/download/purchase at those spots.

The album drops July 15 on Mike Bibby's Team Dime!
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 02, 2009, 01:31:58 PM
yeah cuz he reps west in his traxx and his affiliation wit yuk, c-bo etc... i guess and he lives in southern kali i think
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Enigma on May 02, 2009, 03:08:32 PM
Yeah, he's a full fledged member of The Regime, and has been living out in LA since '96 when he first got signed to Death Row.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 02, 2009, 04:15:50 PM
he shouts-out compton, M.O.B, Cali, Westside,etc.
yall could say it´s influence of pac  but he reps himself cali too at the same time he gives it up for texas too.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 02, 2009, 04:19:20 PM
All that "Westside" shit is him trying to act like Pac. Nothin more, nothin less. Yung Berg lives in California too but I' m not gonna consider him a West Coast artist.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Blasphemy on May 02, 2009, 05:09:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBl-ftBZpjM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qefwgReJEHI&feature=related

Suge knight had signed a bunch of copy cats for the second dynasty.

He had Daz (OG) on production - Replacing Dr. dre

Snoop Dogg - Top dogg
Lady of Rage - Some bitch (Valerie or something)
Makaveli - The Realest

and a couple of others. Realest is just a biter, I know people are going to say "but he reps the west to the fullest" yeah, he is doing that just like Tupac, except tupac had a reason. New York artist feuded with him (Check out, we don't fuck with 2pac fuck you part 2 mixtape.Those same artist today will rip a pac verse, say he was down with em or some other bullshit, but when Tupac was alive he wasn't fucking with em and he wouldn't fuck with The Realest.


The realest former rap name was Tenkamenin. When Tupac died, he changed his name to "The Realest" because 2pac, was considered by many to be the realest rapper.That and tupac called himself The Realest on some songs. Suge Knight had planned on using Top Dogg, The realest and Vali to capitalize off the fans of the originals (1st dynasty). The fans were pissed, because The Realest bite tupac to the extreme. Talking in interviews like tupac (mannerisms, word play), and rapping style.

Do I consider him West Coast??? fuck no, he isn't original, he is a carbon copy of another artist and if I wanted to hear Tupac's style, I'd listen to Tupac. He has to be the worst. Blac Haze is second worse. He sounds less like tupac on his Second album "So Much Drama" but he still making money off Tupac's work. Just like all the faggots who make money off Tupac's work by selling his OGs for money, or cutting and pasting their vocals into em and selling em. Like that 1 guy on YouTube Crystal the faggot. but hey to each his own I suppose.

Also Tenkamenin is a  1th century African Emperor of the Ghana Empire.

Tupac's alternate name was Makaveli which was derived from  Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli (3 May 1469 – 21 June 1527) who was an Italian philosopher, writer, and politician and is considered one of the main founders of modern political science. As a Renaissance Man, he was a diplomat, political philosopher, musician, poet and playwright, but, foremost, he was a Civil Servant of the Florentine Republic.

So he also based his name off someone with great influence


Also he has tried multiple times to collaborate with Outlawz/Thug life members.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: hellrazor86 on May 03, 2009, 02:47:07 AM
Also he has tried multiple times to collaborate with Outlawz/Thug life members.

tried?

he did songs wit napoleon.. plus he made a song wit edi..

all that 2pac bitter shit is the past.. let the man get his money.. why do we even care if he have identity problems.. as long as he can provide us with good music..!

and to call blac haze an imitater is even worse.. dude doesnt sound like pac.. aint flowin like pac.. got another accent.. etc etc..

let them get their money mann..!
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 03, 2009, 09:59:48 AM
damn thats crazy tho if he changed his name after pac died to "tha realest" haha i mean if that aint sayin something
(it could have also been a coincidence that he thought of it at the same time but damn)
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 04, 2009, 02:21:30 AM
Well I think suge told him to change because tenkamenin isn't a name you can sell.just like suge changed dat nigga daz to daz dillinger
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Mietek23 on May 04, 2009, 02:40:29 AM
Yep, it was Suge's idea cause nobody could pronounce his name correctly. Like I said, if you can past that "Pac shit" with Tha Realest, you can def discover a good artist with some really nice material..

Anybody got some links to some shit with him? Never heard of dude.. and this joint is pretty dope..

Check out his "Witness Tha Realest Mixtape" - there are some dope songs plus features from Crooked I, WC, C-Bo, Jewell, Kurupt, Roscoe, Dru Down, Gonzoe, Devin The Dude and others. It def got some heat bro
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Blasphemy on August 20, 2009, 05:23:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfo6K_e9e9g - uh wtf? lol
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: IF NOT ME THEN WHO on August 20, 2009, 11:36:34 AM
why do you act like kurupt, 2 pac,d.o.c,snoop doggy dogg,daz, and xhibit are west?  none of those cats were born in california either
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: IF NOT ME THEN WHO on August 20, 2009, 11:43:36 AM
 
Well I think suge told him to change because tenkamenin isn't a name you can sell.just like suge changed dat nigga daz to daz dillinger

suge changed snoop from snooper dooper to snoop doggy dog and made him claim crip too. he was hollering out longbeach so much and gangsta shit but wasnt from anywhere and suge told him he had to pick a hood. just wasnt no bloods is long beach
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: West Coast Veteran on August 20, 2009, 12:01:04 PM
The Realest ain't West Coast... thats like Common claiming NY because he live there now... Realest aint spent no time of his childhood in L.A., he moved there after he signed to Death Row...

Kurupt - moved to L.A. before he became a famous rapper, so he can be considered West Coast, repped the West Coast from the first album he was ever on.

2Pac - moved to Marin City when he was 16, represented Oakland since 2Pacolypse Now, NEVER mentioned New York roots once until his third album. If you were actually listening to Pac in '91-'93 you would think he was born and raised in Oakland cause thats all he talked about in his music.

Xzibit - lived in L.A. for many years before dropping

Snoop Doggy Dogg - Born in California for the morons that believe these internet rumors that he was from Mississippi, his family is from Miss. you fuckin' idiots, but he was born and raised in Long Beach.

The D.O.C. - NEVER claimed West Coast, always claimed Dallas in interviews and in his music. He is West Coast by affiliation with NWA, Death Row, etc.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: West Coast Veteran on August 20, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
Well I think suge told him to change because tenkamenin isn't a name you can sell.just like suge changed dat nigga daz to daz dillinger

suge changed snoop from snooper dooper to snoop doggy dog and made him claim crip too. he was hollering out longbeach so much and gangsta shit but wasnt from anywhere and suge told him he had to pick a hood. just wasnt no bloods is long beach

yeh suge paid rollin 20 crip to jump snoop in  ::)
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: IF NOT ME THEN WHO on August 20, 2009, 12:14:38 PM
they didnt jump snoop in and he wasnt born in california homie
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: IF NOT ME THEN WHO on August 20, 2009, 12:18:56 PM
well lert me just say if he was born in cali ive heard him say different. and it doesnt matter how long some one is in another place other than where they are from, it doesnt make u from the new place. u still are a immagrant or someone that migrated from their origin to elsewhere, u r still from where u r from ot niggas was just on la nuts so bad back then that they didnt have enough fiber to live amongst and dwell with la folks without claiming the fame. la niggas been turning niggas out, thats how you got crips and bloods all over the world, cause niggas wanna be like la niggas. its so bad they tryi to act like them adopting the gang bang culture is something native of their homes now, in order to deny being on west coast nuts  smh lol at these weirdoz
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Jay Rome on August 20, 2009, 01:24:13 PM
Well I think suge told him to change because tenkamenin isn't a name you can sell.just like suge changed dat nigga daz to daz dillinger

suge changed snoop from snooper dooper to snoop doggy dog and made him claim crip too. he was hollering out longbeach so much and gangsta shit but wasnt from anywhere and suge told him he had to pick a hood. just wasnt no bloods is long beach

yeh suge paid rollin 20 crip to jump snoop in  ::)


Snoop ain't even from 20's like that never been.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: IF NOT ME THEN WHO on August 20, 2009, 01:38:50 PM
you know what up jay rome and he used to claim insane lol
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Jay Rome on August 20, 2009, 01:49:23 PM
you know what up jay rome and he used to claim insane lol

Yep just like his cousin Daz he claimed every hood in Long Beach lol
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 20, 2009, 01:55:36 PM
you know what up jay rome and he used to claim insane lol

Yep just like his cousin Daz he claimed every hood in Long Beach lol

Suge also spoke on this.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Escrooge on August 20, 2009, 02:46:34 PM
well lert me just say if he was born in cali ive heard him say different. and it doesnt matter how long some one is in another place other than where they are from, it doesnt make u from the new place. u still are a immagrant or someone that migrated from their origin to elsewhere, u r still from where u r from ot niggas was just on la nuts so bad back then that they didnt have enough fiber to live amongst and dwell with la folks without claiming the fame. la niggas been turning niggas out, thats how you got crips and bloods all over the world, cause niggas wanna be like la niggas. its so bad they tryi to act like them adopting the gang bang culture is something native of their homes now, in order to deny being on west coast nuts  smh lol at these weirdoz

I love LA, but my city Chi-city are the trendsetters of this gang bang shit, if you think Im lyin come out here!
Show me some Crips and Bloods in Chi-town...it will never happen! The Crips and Bloods have infitrated every state except mines. Hell we brung the stones to LA!
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Escrooge on August 20, 2009, 02:51:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBl-ftBZpjM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qefwgReJEHI&feature=related

Suge knight had signed a bunch of copy cats for the second dynasty.

He had Daz (OG) on production - Replacing Dr. dre

Snoop Dogg - Top dogg
Lady of Rage - Some bitch (Valerie or something)
Makaveli - The Realest

and a couple of others. Realest is just a biter, I know people are going to say "but he reps the west to the fullest" yeah, he is doing that just like Tupac, except tupac had a reason. New York artist feuded with him (Check out, we don't fuck with 2pac fuck you part 2 mixtape.Those same artist today will rip a pac verse, say he was down with em or some other bullshit, but when Tupac was alive he wasn't fucking with em and he wouldn't fuck with The Realest.


The realest former rap name was Tenkamenin. When Tupac died, he changed his name to "The Realest" because 2pac, was considered by many to be the realest rapper.That and tupac called himself The Realest on some songs. Suge Knight had planned on using Top Dogg, The realest and Vali to capitalize off the fans of the originals (1st dynasty). The fans were pissed, because The Realest bite tupac to the extreme. Talking in interviews like tupac (mannerisms, word play), and rapping style.

Do I consider him West Coast??? fuck no, he isn't original, he is a carbon copy of another artist and if I wanted to hear Tupac's style, I'd listen to Tupac. He has to be the worst. Blac Haze is second worse. He sounds less like tupac on his Second album "So Much Drama" but he still making money off Tupac's work. Just like all the faggots who make money off Tupac's work by selling his OGs for money, or cutting and pasting their vocals into em and selling em. Like that 1 guy on YouTube Crystal the faggot. but hey to each his own I suppose.

Also Tenkamenin is a  1th century African Emperor of the Ghana Empire.

Tupac's alternate name was Makaveli which was derived from  Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli (3 May 1469 – 21 June 1527) who was an Italian philosopher, writer, and politician and is considered one of the main founders of modern political science. As a Renaissance Man, he was a diplomat, political philosopher, musician, poet and playwright, but, foremost, he was a Civil Servant of the Florentine Republic.

So he also based his name off someone with great influence


Also he has tried multiple times to collaborate with Outlawz/Thug life members.

Up that Pac diss mixtape if you got it, cause the way Pac was getting at them dudes they pissed him off ugly!
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: LodiDodi on August 20, 2009, 03:17:34 PM
I think the D.O.C. was from Texas too, and I always considered him a west coast artist.  Don't get it twisted though, doesn't mean I consider The Realest a west coast artist, just presenting a similar situation.  The Realest belongs on whatever coast has the most shark-infested waters, cause he's just a straight biter!
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 20, 2009, 03:24:25 PM
I think the D.O.C. was from Texas too, and I always considered him a west coast artist.  Don't get it twisted though, doesn't mean I consider The Realest a west coast artist, just presenting a similar situation.  The Realest belongs on whatever coast has the most shark-infested waters, cause he's just a straight biter!

Haha, yeah The D.O.C. is from Texas.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Blasphemy on August 20, 2009, 04:07:30 PM
I think the D.O.C. was from Texas too, and I always considered him a west coast artist.  Don't get it twisted though, doesn't mean I consider The Realest a west coast artist, just presenting a similar situation.  The Realest belongs on whatever coast has the most shark-infested waters, cause he's just a straight biter!

Haha, yeah The D.O.C. is from Texas.

Yeah...but the D.O.C. Never EVER claimed West Coast. Fans only considered him West Coast cause of his relation to N.W.A and him being on Death Row. He never claimed west. Realest moved out to the west after being signed.

Also on the Mixtape deal: I'll have to dig into my stuff, but I'll post it proper :D
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: 2euce 7even on August 20, 2009, 10:59:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKlnJZnxSx4

DOPE ASS SONG!!! ONE OF MY FAV´s EVER.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Elano on August 20, 2009, 11:24:00 PM
texas or cali,dude is boring as hell
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: 174Proof on August 21, 2009, 10:00:46 AM
well lert me just say if he was born in cali ive heard him say different. and it doesnt matter how long some one is in another place other than where they are from, it doesnt make u from the new place. u still are a immagrant or someone that migrated from their origin to elsewhere, u r still from where u r from ot niggas was just on la nuts so bad back then that they didnt have enough fiber to live amongst and dwell with la folks without claiming the fame. la niggas been turning niggas out, thats how you got crips and bloods all over the world, cause niggas wanna be like la niggas. its so bad they tryi to act like them adopting the gang bang culture is something native of their homes now, in order to deny being on west coast nuts  smh lol at these weirdoz

I love LA, but my city Chi-city are the trendsetters of this gang bang shit, if you think Im lyin come out here!
Show me some Crips and Bloods in Chi-town...it will never happen! The Crips and Bloods have infitrated every state except mines. Hell we brung the stones to LA!

If u dont knock it off. Gang bangin started way before America was even established it just wasn't crips, bloods, vice lord, GD, etc but ppl were gang bangin'.
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: 174Proof on August 21, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
texas or cali,dude is boring as hell

lol for real
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: Escrooge on August 21, 2009, 04:08:38 PM
well lert me just say if he was born in cali ive heard him say different. and it doesnt matter how long some one is in another place other than where they are from, it doesnt make u from the new place. u still are a immagrant or someone that migrated from their origin to elsewhere, u r still from where u r from ot niggas was just on la nuts so bad back then that they didnt have enough fiber to live amongst and dwell with la folks without claiming the fame. la niggas been turning niggas out, thats how you got crips and bloods all over the world, cause niggas wanna be like la niggas. its so bad they tryi to act like them adopting the gang bang culture is something native of their homes now, in order to deny being on west coast nuts  smh lol at these weirdoz

I love LA, but my city Chi-city are the trendsetters of this gang bang shit, if you think Im lyin come out here!
Show me some Crips and Bloods in Chi-town...it will never happen! The Crips and Bloods have infitrated every state except mines. Hell we brung the stones to LA!

If u dont knock it off. Gang bangin started way before America was even established it just wasn't crips, bloods, vice lord, GD, etc but ppl were gang bangin'.

True, but banging was a Chi-town thang first!
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 21, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Well I think suge told him to change because tenkamenin isn't a name you can sell.just like suge changed dat nigga daz to daz dillinger

i thought Dat Nigga Daz was his name until he left death row   (a la Snoop Doggy Dogg became Snoop Dogg)



what was "retaliation" released under, dat nigga daz or dillinger?  too lazy to go research lmao
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: D-Nice on August 21, 2009, 04:19:35 PM
Well I think suge told him to change because tenkamenin isn't a name you can sell.just like suge changed dat nigga daz to daz dillinger

i thought Dat Nigga Daz was his name until he left death row   (a la Snoop Doggy Dogg became Snoop Dogg)



what was "retaliation" released under, dat nigga daz or dillinger?  too lazy to go research lmao

Daz Dillinger
Title: Re: Why do you act like the Realest is West Coast?
Post by: DJ-AGE™ on August 21, 2009, 10:38:23 PM
I support the homie i like his shit plain and simple...but as far as the westcoast thing yall forget he fuck real heavy wit Yuk...and back when Yuk was wit J he use to give love to the south...so same type a shit....get his new album man it has it clear in the book "Texas gave me game, california paid paid me mane"