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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: herpes on May 10, 2009, 12:53:06 AM
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It looks like he is finally got his shit back together. Spice since you see him more than anyone here how has he been looking ?
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Honestly, most Giants fans gave up on him by mid-season last year at the latest, so anything good he does is a pleasant surprise. He pitched better at the end of last season, so he has shown signs of it. I've read that his fastball velocity is up 1 or 2 mph, so that would help. But the biggest thing is location, obviously. He has been getting ahead in counts and it has helped his composure, he used to look like he was battling himself out there.
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Yeah what Tay said is on point. The extra 3 mph on the fastball has helped a lot but really his mental focus and ability to get ahead of hitters is what has helped him the most. The guy finally seems focused and honestly he looks pissed off now when he is pitching lol, I think 2 straight terrible years finally has him motivated and ready to prove everyone wrong who gave up on him which is basically every Giants fan alive. I am really starting to get pumped about this team, we have a legit shot at winning this division and our starting pitching can give us a chance in any series but I just wish we could find a way to add a big bat for the middle of our "lineup"
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Yeah what Tay said is on point. The extra 3 mph on the fastball has helped a lot but really his mental focus and ability to get ahead of hitters is what has helped him the most. The guy finally seems focused and honestly he looks pissed off now when he is pitching lol, I think 2 straight terrible years finally has him motivated and ready to prove everyone wrong who gave up on him which is basically every Giants fan alive. I am really starting to get pumped about this team, we have a legit shot at winning this division and our starting pitching can give us a chance in any series but I just wish we could find a way to add a big bat for the middle of our "lineup"
you really believe that, ey? hey, whatever helps you sleep better at night! 8)
in all seriousness tho...if yall pull a trade for a bat, and yall pitching holds up, then it should be close. on the other hand..if we make a trade here and there, maybe get a good SP and some RP, and we could just run away with this shit. 8) 8) 8)
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Giants are just as good as Dodgers and without Manny we can b better. U swept us early but last 2 series we have taken 2 out of 3. Don't get too excited about your fast start, the Giants are just as good.
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Giants are just as good as Dodgers and without Manny we can b better. U swept us early but last 2 series we have taken 2 out of 3. Don't get too excited about your fast start, the Giants are just as good.
just as good? LOL.
you just killed the thread. good job.
look at the records..look at our offense...look at the standings. we're better at home, better on the road than the giants.. and you say 'just as good'?? lol if it werent for our bullpen, we would be like 29-4 right now. we would be undefeated against the NLW..we're 20-8 against the NLW as it is. the gianst are 13-12 against the NLW. that aint a very good way to win the division. :bandit:
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We have won the last 2 series, one at home and one in la. The last 3 weeks the giants and dodgers have had 2 of the best 5 records in all of baseball, I repeat we are just as good. We are 4 and a half back due to the first week of the season, the last 3 weeks both clubs have pretty much been even.
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our bullpen, besides for broxton, is SHIT...yet we still manage to have the best record in baseball cause our offense is fucking stacked. if we had some relief pitching like we've had in the last couple of years, we would be leading the division by double digits.
if the giants want to do ANYTHING, RIGHT NOW is the time to do it. cause once our RP straightens out, and manny comes back, shiiiiiiiittttt......
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The Giants REALLY need get step up their offense if they want to go anywhere.
Last in Runs
26th in AVG
Last in OBP
29th in SLG
Last in HRs
Last in BB
Here's an article on the Giants offense:
The Giants offense: One bad thing about every player
Posted by Nick Kapur on Wednesday May 06th 2009, 11:01 am - filed in Diamond cuts
Lots of people were really high on the San Francisco Giants this offseason, making lots of bold predictions about how they would finish over .500 and might even make the playoffs, predictions which were predicated on the Giants making some sort of quantum leap on offense from a performance that was second worst in all of baseball last year, to only the Padres, who at least have the excuse of playing in Petco Park.
But we here at UmpBump just didn’t see it happening. Still, while the Giants offensive suckage may not be surprising, it is still stunning in just how bad they are at all phases of the offensive game. They literally do everything badly - they don’t walk, they don’t hit for power, they don’t hit for average, and they strike out a ton.
The team ISO is a piddling .119, 29th in baseball. The team K% is 23 which ranks 23nd. And the team BB% of 7.4 comes in at 29th in baseball as well. Add it all up and you have a team that has scored a mere 90 runs, last in the Major Leagues.
Running through the starting lineup, it is easily possible to come up with at least one mind-bogglingly horrendous fact for every single player, without repeating yourself. Observe:
Catcher Bengie Molina has yet to draw a single walk, meaning that his OBP is actually lower than his batting average (due to a sacrifice fly).
Travis Ishikawa has a .528 OPS. As a first baseman.
2B Manny Burress has an ISO of .025. No that is not a typo.
3B Pablo Sandoval has an unsustainably high BABIP of .360, which is bound to fall. Not a good sign since 100 percent of his value is tied up in batting average.
Light-hitting shortstop Edgar Renteria is on pace to strike out a whopping 97 times this season.
Leftfielder Fred Lewis is playing corner outfield position but has yet to hit a single homer this year, after hitting only 9 all last year.
Centerfielder Aaron Rowand has a .299 OBP.
Rightfielder Randy Winn has a .220 batting average, a real worry since his BABIP is actually not particularly low.
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^^^ over at rotoauthority.com they're even listing pitchers who are facing them this week for spot starts in fantasy baseball..since the giants are only averaging 3.63 runs/game.
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And yet we are still in the thick of the race so far.
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everyone is in "the thick of the race so far"...its only may..
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everyone is in "the thick of the race so far"...its only may..
Well if we are so whack then why have we won the last two series against LA? Also if we are so whack then why do we have one of the 5 best records in all of baseball the last 3 weeks
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everyone is in "the thick of the race so far"...its only may..
Well if we are so whack then why have we won the last two series against LA? Also if we are so whack then why do we have one of the 5 best records in all of baseball the last 3 weeks
do you honestly feel thats going to last?? you really think the hitters will be there all season for you guys?? the pitching will be...but the hitting??
like i said, if the giants want to do anything, the time is NOW..yall got 50 games to move into first and get a good lead (wont happen), because once manny comes back, and once we dump the dead weight from the pen, and get some better relief pitching, its a wrap for the NLW.
so enjoy it while it lasts, cause beside lincecum, it might be the giants sole bright spot in the season! ;D
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We will talk again in September. Yeah Matt Cain is not a brightspot or Molina either ::)
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ok, so 3 little twinkles in a giant black hole (no pun intended). lol
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everyone is in "the thick of the race so far"...its only may..
Well if we are so whack then why have we won the last two series against LA? Also if we are so whack then why do we have one of the 5 best records in all of baseball the last 3 weeks
do you honestly feel thats going to last?? you really think the hitters will be there all season for you guys?? the pitching will be...but the hitting??
like i said, if the giants want to do anything, the time is NOW..yall got 50 games to move into first and get a good lead (wont happen), because once manny comes back, and once we dump the dead weight from the pen, and get some better relief pitching, its a wrap for the NLW.
so enjoy it while it lasts, cause beside lincecum, it might be the giants sole bright spot in the season! ;D
I know you want to downplay your rivals' success, but I can tell you haven't watched them this year with that statement. The hitters won't last? Randy Winn, a usually slow-starter and guy who has hit at .300 the last couple years, just strung together a few great games to get his average up to .260. Rowand is hitting at .240 right now, well below his career average. Edgar Renteria is only hitting .250. The hitters, outside of Molina and Sandoval, haven't done anything so far. These guys aren't going to make this a great hitting club, but it shows how impressive this pitching staff has been. This team lost 2 of their first 3 series, and hasn't lost a series since, including taking the last 2 against the Dodgers. This isn't to say they are going to be this force of a team, but you can't be serious taking them this lightly.
By the way, Zito starts again tomorrow, get your popcorn ready!!
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everyone is in "the thick of the race so far"...its only may..
Well if we are so whack then why have we won the last two series against LA? Also if we are so whack then why do we have one of the 5 best records in all of baseball the last 3 weeks
do you honestly feel thats going to last?? you really think the hitters will be there all season for you guys?? the pitching will be...but the hitting??
like i said, if the giants want to do anything, the time is NOW..yall got 50 games to move into first and get a good lead (wont happen), because once manny comes back, and once we dump the dead weight from the pen, and get some better relief pitching, its a wrap for the NLW.
so enjoy it while it lasts, cause beside lincecum, it might be the giants sole bright spot in the season! ;D
I know you want to downplay your rivals' success, but I can tell you haven't watched them this year with that statement. The hitters won't last? Randy Winn, a usually slow-starter and guy who has hit at .300 the last couple years, just strung together a few great games to get his average up to .260. Rowand is hitting at .240 right now, well below his career average. Edgar Renteria is only hitting .250. The hitters, outside of Molina and Sandoval, haven't done anything so far. These guys aren't going to make this a great hitting club, but it shows how impressive this pitching staff has been. This team lost 2 of their first 3 series, and hasn't lost a series since, including taking the last 2 against the Dodgers. This isn't to say they are going to be this force of a team, but you can't be serious taking them this lightly.
By the way, Zito starts again tomorrow, get your popcorn ready!!
why not?? you just basically said you hitters are shit except for a couple batters. you really think pitching and 2 hitters will take ya to the NLDS? you would have to have a shit load of luck for that to be the case.
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Great pitching almost always prevails, and if these 3 veterans get back to their normal numbers, they will pair up with Molina (who will be an All-Star this year) and Sandoval to form a productive middle of the order. That's a lineup that will produce more runs per game than they have so far, and they've still been winning. I'd be upset that my "superior" team just lost at home to our bitter rivals too, so I understand.
By the way, that article saying the Padres have an excuse for playing in a pitcher's park didn't pay attention, the Giants play in a park known as a pitcher's park as well.
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piucked him up on my fantsay team
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Great pitching almost always prevails, and if these 3 veterans get back to their normal numbers, they will pair up with Molina (who will be an All-Star this year) and Sandoval to form a productive middle of the order. That's a lineup that will produce more runs per game than they have so far, and they've still been winning. I'd be upset that my "superior" team just lost at home to our bitter rivals too, so I understand.
By the way, that article saying the Padres have an excuse for playing in a pitcher's park didn't pay attention, the Giants play in a park known as a pitcher's park as well.
what? who the fuck is talking about the padres? LOL...
anyways.. we can sit here ALL DAY with "ifs"..if the dodgers trade for peavy we have a GREAT 1-2 punch..if martin returns to his 07 numbers...if furcal heats up..if if if if if.
heres whats FACT..
dodgers have the best record in baseball.
dodgers have one of the most potent offenses in the NL.
dodgers have the biggest lead than any other division in baseball.
so yeah, if i were a giant fan....just threw up....id be happy as hell if we beat the best team in baseball...it might be the highlight of ya season!!! hahahahaha
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in all honesty tho..its way too fucking early to tell anything. sure im glad about the start we're off to, and im sure youre glad about the last few games your giants have played, but who have we really faced? the NLW. which has some great pitching, but lets be honest the hitting aint all that great when you compare the lineups of other divisions...except for the dodgers who have a very good lineup and some weak pitching. lol
we're both gonna be playing some tough clubs in the coming weeks which will tell a lot more about the quality of our clubs. im confident the dodgers will still be in 1st place by the end of this month.
and shiiit...i want you guys to be close to us...that way, in the final week of the season, we can eliminate you and crush your playoff dreams. ;D
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in all honesty tho..its way too fucking early to tell anything. sure im glad about the start we're off to, and im sure youre glad about the last few games your giants have played, but who have we really faced? the NLW. which has some great pitching, but lets be honest the hitting aint all that great when you compare the lineups of other divisions...except for the dodgers who have a very good lineup and some weak pitching. lol
we're both gonna be playing some tough clubs in the coming weeks which will tell a lot more about the quality of our clubs. im confident the dodgers will still be in 1st place by the end of this month.
and shiiit...i want you guys to be close to us...that way, in the final week of the season, we can eliminate you and crush your playoff dreams. ;D
I know its early but we have been playing great for longer than just a few games, Amazing win tonight! Pablo is that dude
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That was a good post Wykid, I understand where you are coming from, but there's a reason for our optimism. The rest of our division is trash, San Diego has cooled off, Arizona is a mess, and Colorado is Colorado. The teams outside of the NL West will pose a bigger challenge, but I feel good about the team, especially with Barry Zito pitching better and he's technically our #4 starter, although he is better than Randy Johnson now.
The San Diego Padres comment was relating to the article that Knuckles posted lol.
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Actually AT&T Park isn't a pitcher's park (according to Baseball Prospectus anyways). It's listed at a neutral park with a park factor of 1.002 where Petco is an extreme pitcher's park with a factor of .903.
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to me, the Giants look like such a shitty team...
they COULD win the division, they have a better chance than COL and SD at the moment (it's early)
that being said, the Dodgers in my eyes aren't very special either
they have talent and if the pitching is on point they look good
but I think this Manny thing killed a lot of good energy going around
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I see what you're saying, the Giants don't have many pretty wins, they normally have to grind it out. They don't have a lot of power in their lineup, and the management made some bad decisions in the past couple offseasons. Obviously, every team has a couple holes where if they were fixed, that team would be a sure contender. For the Giants, a power-hitting 1B would be a huge asset.
Zito pitched again yesterday, did pretty well but he struggled late and took the L as he got no run support or bullpen help.
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I see what you're saying, the Giants don't have many pretty wins, they normally have to grind it out. They don't have a lot of power in their lineup, and the management made some bad decisions in the past couple offseasons. Obviously, every team has a couple holes where if they were fixed, that team would be a sure contender. For the Giants, a power-hitting 1B would be a huge asset.
Zito pitched again yesterday, did pretty well but he struggled late and took the L as he got no run support or bullpen help.
2 tough losses in a row, I am going to the game tomorrow night, Lincy vs Livan, we should get a win
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Yeah tonight's was tough, Beltran was out at 3B on his steal attempt in the 9th (very close though), but Wilson still might have given up some runs, and it was his fault for not holding the runners. I hope we hammer Livan, and Lincecum's starts are always fun to go to.
I remember going to Livan's 1st start with the Giants, sitting in the bleachers when they played the Cardinals. Livan gave up a HR or 2, Giants lost, I think I realized right there he wasn't the same guy that carried the Marlins to that World Series.
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you guys still think the giants are on the same level as the dodgers? LOL
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you guys still think the giants are on the same level as the dodgers? LOL
you guys are playing great right now, brag and rub it in when it's September, there is a long way to go. Giants are rebuilding though so I am thrilled with the 19-18 start and we have played the Dodgers evenly so far this year so yeah we arent on the same level as LA right now but there is a long way to go
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you guys still think the giants are on the same level as the dodgers? LOL
you guys are playing great right now, brag and rub it in when it's September, there is a long way to go. Giants are rebuilding though so I am thrilled with the 19-18 start and we have played the Dodgers evenly so far this year so yeah we arent on the same level as LA right now but there is a long way to go
real spit. Zito had another great outing 2 er in 7 ip but got the loss as we lost 2-1. Crazy 2 because our offense was really clikcing against the Mets...