Barry Zito

[J.D. Wykid, Esq.]

ok, so 3 little twinkles in a giant black hole (no pun intended). lol

[Tay]

everyone is in "the thick of the race so far"...its only may..

Well if we are so whack then why have we won the last two series against LA? Also if we are so whack then why do we have one of the 5 best records in all of baseball the last 3 weeks

do you honestly feel thats going to last??  you really think the hitters will be there all season for you guys??  the pitching will be...but the hitting?? 

like i said, if the giants want to do anything, the time is NOW..yall got 50 games to move into first and get a good lead (wont happen), because once manny comes back, and once we dump the dead weight from the pen, and get some better relief pitching, its a wrap for the NLW. 


so enjoy it while it lasts, cause beside lincecum, it might be the giants sole bright spot in the season!

I know you want to downplay your rivals' success, but I can tell you haven't watched them this year with that statement. The hitters won't last? Randy Winn, a usually slow-starter and guy who has hit at .300 the last couple years, just strung together a few great games to get his average up to .260. Rowand is hitting at .240 right now, well below his career average. Edgar Renteria is only hitting .250. The hitters, outside of Molina and Sandoval, haven't done anything so far. These guys aren't going to make this a great hitting club, but it shows how impressive this pitching staff has been. This team lost 2 of their first 3 series, and hasn't lost a series since, including taking the last 2 against the Dodgers. This isn't to say they are going to be this force of a team, but you can't be serious taking them this lightly.

By the way, Zito starts again tomorrow, get your popcorn ready!!

[J.D. Wykid, Esq.]

everyone is in "the thick of the race so far"...its only may..

Well if we are so whack then why have we won the last two series against LA? Also if we are so whack then why do we have one of the 5 best records in all of baseball the last 3 weeks

do you honestly feel thats going to last??  you really think the hitters will be there all season for you guys??  the pitching will be...but the hitting?? 

like i said, if the giants want to do anything, the time is NOW..yall got 50 games to move into first and get a good lead (wont happen), because once manny comes back, and once we dump the dead weight from the pen, and get some better relief pitching, its a wrap for the NLW. 


so enjoy it while it lasts, cause beside lincecum, it might be the giants sole bright spot in the season!

I know you want to downplay your rivals' success, but I can tell you haven't watched them this year with that statement. The hitters won't last? Randy Winn, a usually slow-starter and guy who has hit at .300 the last couple years, just strung together a few great games to get his average up to .260. Rowand is hitting at .240 right now, well below his career average. Edgar Renteria is only hitting .250. The hitters, outside of Molina and Sandoval, haven't done anything so far. These guys aren't going to make this a great hitting club, but it shows how impressive this pitching staff has been. This team lost 2 of their first 3 series, and hasn't lost a series since, including taking the last 2 against the Dodgers. This isn't to say they are going to be this force of a team, but you can't be serious taking them this lightly.

By the way, Zito starts again tomorrow, get your popcorn ready!!

why not??  you just basically said you hitters are shit except for a couple batters.  you really think pitching and 2 hitters will take ya to the NLDS?  you would have to have a shit load of luck for that to be the case.   

[Tay]

Great pitching almost always prevails, and if these 3 veterans get back to their normal numbers, they will pair up with Molina (who will be an All-Star this year) and Sandoval to form a productive middle of the order. That's a lineup that will produce more runs per game than they have so far, and they've still been winning. I'd be upset that my "superior" team just lost at home to our bitter rivals too, so I understand.

By the way, that article saying the Padres have an excuse for playing in a pitcher's park didn't pay attention, the Giants play in a park known as a pitcher's park as well.

[OG Hack Wilson]

piucked him up on my fantsay team

[J.D. Wykid, Esq.]

Great pitching almost always prevails, and if these 3 veterans get back to their normal numbers, they will pair up with Molina (who will be an All-Star this year) and Sandoval to form a productive middle of the order. That's a lineup that will produce more runs per game than they have so far, and they've still been winning. I'd be upset that my "superior" team just lost at home to our bitter rivals too, so I understand.

By the way, that article saying the Padres have an excuse for playing in a pitcher's park didn't pay attention, the Giants play in a park known as a pitcher's park as well.

what?  who the fuck is talking about the padres? LOL...

anyways.. we can sit here ALL DAY with "ifs"..if the dodgers trade for peavy we have a GREAT 1-2 punch..if martin returns to his 07 numbers...if furcal heats up..if if if if if.

heres whats FACT..

dodgers have the best record in baseball.

dodgers have one of the most potent offenses in the NL.

dodgers have the biggest lead than any other division in baseball.


so yeah, if i were a giant fan....just threw up....id be happy as hell if we beat the best team in baseball...it might be the highlight of ya season!!! hahahahaha

[J.D. Wykid, Esq.]

in all honesty tho..its way too fucking early to tell anything.  sure im glad about the start we're off to, and im sure youre glad about the last few games your giants have played, but who have we really faced?  the NLW.  which has some great pitching, but lets be honest the hitting aint all that great when you compare the lineups of other divisions...except for the dodgers who have a very good lineup and some weak pitching. lol

we're both gonna be playing some tough clubs in the coming weeks which will tell a lot more about the quality of our clubs.  im confident the dodgers will still be in 1st place by the end of this month.

and shiiit...i want you guys to be close to us...that way, in the final week of the season, we can eliminate you and crush your playoff dreams. 

[S P I C E]

in all honesty tho..its way too fucking early to tell anything.  sure im glad about the start we're off to, and im sure youre glad about the last few games your giants have played, but who have we really faced?  the NLW.  which has some great pitching, but lets be honest the hitting aint all that great when you compare the lineups of other divisions...except for the dodgers who have a very good lineup and some weak pitching. lol

we're both gonna be playing some tough clubs in the coming weeks which will tell a lot more about the quality of our clubs.  im confident the dodgers will still be in 1st place by the end of this month.

and shiiit...i want you guys to be close to us...that way, in the final week of the season, we can eliminate you and crush your playoff dreams. 

I know its early but we have been playing great for longer than just a few games, Amazing win tonight!  Pablo is that dude

[Tay]

That was a good post Wykid, I understand where you are coming from, but there's a reason for our optimism. The rest of our division is trash, San Diego has cooled off, Arizona is a mess, and Colorado is Colorado. The teams outside of the NL West will pose a bigger challenge, but I feel good about the team, especially with Barry Zito pitching better and he's technically our #4 starter, although he is better than Randy Johnson now.

The San Diego Padres comment was relating to the article that Knuckles posted lol.

[Twentytwofifty]

Actually AT&T Park isn't a pitcher's park (according to Baseball Prospectus anyways).  It's listed at a neutral park with a park factor of 1.002 where Petco is an extreme pitcher's park with a factor of .903. 

[Rick McCrank]

to me, the Giants look like such a shitty team...

they COULD win the division, they have a better chance than COL and SD at the moment (it's early)

that being said, the Dodgers in my eyes aren't very special either

they have talent and if the pitching is on point they look good

but I think this Manny thing killed a lot of good energy going around

[Tay]

I see what you're saying, the Giants don't have many pretty wins, they normally have to grind it out. They don't have a lot of power in their lineup, and the management made some bad decisions in the past couple offseasons. Obviously, every team has a couple holes where if they were fixed, that team would be a sure contender. For the Giants, a power-hitting 1B would be a huge asset.

Zito pitched again yesterday, did pretty well but he struggled late and took the L as he got no run support or bullpen help.

[S P I C E]

I see what you're saying, the Giants don't have many pretty wins, they normally have to grind it out. They don't have a lot of power in their lineup, and the management made some bad decisions in the past couple offseasons. Obviously, every team has a couple holes where if they were fixed, that team would be a sure contender. For the Giants, a power-hitting 1B would be a huge asset.

Zito pitched again yesterday, did pretty well but he struggled late and took the L as he got no run support or bullpen help.

2 tough losses in a row, I am going to the game tomorrow night, Lincy vs Livan, we should get a win

[Tay]

Yeah tonight's was tough, Beltran was out at 3B on his steal attempt in the 9th (very close though), but Wilson still might have given up some runs, and it was his fault for not holding the runners. I hope we hammer Livan, and Lincecum's starts are always fun to go to.

I remember going to Livan's 1st start with the Giants, sitting in the bleachers when they played the Cardinals. Livan gave up a HR or 2, Giants lost, I think I realized right there he wasn't the same guy that carried the Marlins to that World Series.

[J.D. Wykid, Esq.]

you guys still think the giants are on the same level as the dodgers?  LOL