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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: dameons on May 13, 2009, 09:14:30 PM
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The latest trend of cloning your own beat ( thanks Drumma boy) has even hit Dr Dre's lazy ass.
the "My Mom" instrumental is a slowed- down clone of "Gunz Come out" off of 50 cent's Massacre album.
my mom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbDy0Icb21c
gunz come out -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n03yT9A2MRg
the next one i noticed was Eminem's song " Bagpipes from Baghdad". This was tougher to figure out, but Dr Dre pulled a kanye and used a sped up sample; his own. its " Role Model"
Bagpipes from Baghdad -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIKfATRpUrQ
Role Model - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMWuXHno7oo
there is probably more, but i haven't heard the album fully, and i am not familiar with all of Dre's production. I sure as hell aint hyped for detox no more if he gonna be recycling s**t
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Dre used the same bassline twice on doggystyle. It's nothin new.
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if Detox is coming I wouldn't expect extremely dope beats for em.
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The Deja Vu song is basically Bishop Lamonts (another dre. produce track) with extra drums in the back, and a different guitar riff.The main drums are set up the same way everything is, only difference its modified to be slightly more Chaotic, were as Bishop's is suppose to be calming.
Also 1 of the track's sounds like a modified version of Tupac's "Until the end of the time" not the OG the one released on the album, just 1 less drum.
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the stay wide awake beat is the same beat as american psycho pt2 same melody and shit just changed the sound of the instrument
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None of these beats feature the same instrumentation as older ones. You guys just don't have a very keen ear for music. Which explains the strong taste for rap.
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Fact remains that every track sounds like he's done it before
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Dre used the same bassline twice on doggystyle. It's nothin new.
twice?
try 3 times.
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if Detox is coming I wouldn't expect extremely dope beats for em.
precisely
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Dre used the same bassline twice on doggystyle. It's nothin new.
twice?
try 3 times.
"g funk intro" and "dre day" sample the same exact song
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Dre used the same bassline twice on doggystyle. It's nothin new.
twice?
try 3 times.
"g funk intro" and "dre day" sample the same exact song
he was talking just doggystyle but yeah dre day as well
the ones on doggystyle
Gfunk into, Whats my name and Doggy dogg world
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The latest trend of cloning your own beat ( thanks Drumma boy) has even hit Dr Dre's lazy ass.
the "My Mom" instrumental is a slowed- down clone of "Gunz Come out" off of 50 cent's Massacre album.
my mom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbDy0Icb21c
gunz come out -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n03yT9A2MRg
the next one i noticed was Eminem's song " Bagpipes from Baghdad". This was tougher to figure out, but Dr Dre pulled a kanye and used a sped up sample; his own. its " Role Model"
Bagpipes from Baghdad -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIKfATRpUrQ
Role Model - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMWuXHno7oo
there is probably more, but i haven't heard the album fully, and i am not familiar with all of Dre's production. I sure as hell aint hyped for detox no more if he gonna be recycling s**t
stop lying emo: if you weren't hyped, you wouldn't be making these topics all the time :D
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He took drums from TERMO and re used them in Lookout! He used a bassline from DJ 's Burney Chronicles and used it in MOOse the Dean W REMIX! ;D
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the album is dope who cares
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Dre's admitted to re-using the same beats but he sequences them in a way that they they sound totally different, he's clearly not sequencing hard enough lately otherwise we wouldn't notice.
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Dre used the same bassline twice on doggystyle. It's nothin new.
twice?
try 3 times.
"g funk intro" and "dre day" sample the same exact song
he was talking just doggystyle but yeah dre day as well
the ones on doggystyle
Gfunk into, Whats my name and Doggy dogg world
cant c see me aswell
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The Deja Vu song is basically Bishop Lamonts (another dre. produce track) with extra drums in the back, and a different guitar riff.The main drums are set up the same way everything is, only difference its modified to be slightly more Chaotic, were as Bishop's is suppose to be calming.
Also 1 of the track's sounds like a modified version of Tupac's "Until the end of the time" not the OG the one released on the album, just 1 less drum.
What Bishop Lamont song? This beat sounds very familiar.
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Dre's admitted to re-using the same beats but he sequences them in a way that they they sound totally different, he's clearly not sequencing hard enough lately otherwise we wouldn't notice.
exactly - every producer does this
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It's been said in another topic; Deja Vu is basically the crack a bottle sample replayed. They added some notes here and there, but it's based on that sample.
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The Deja Vu song is basically Bishop Lamonts (another dre. produce track) with extra drums in the back, and a different guitar riff.The main drums are set up the same way everything is, only difference its modified to be slightly more Chaotic, were as Bishop's is suppose to be calming.
Also 1 of the track's sounds like a modified version of Tupac's "Until the end of the time" not the OG the one released on the album, just 1 less drum.
What Bishop Lamont song? This beat sounds very familiar.
"Grow Up" Bishop Lamont's (came out first) was mainly calming and suppose to have a soothing sound, Ems version is more Chaotic (to compliment the Slim Shady persona).
Also just because he sampled Atomic Dogg (during his G-Funk days) on a lot of songs, doesn't automatically make em the same, but they all do sound somewhat seemlier because of the use of same sample.Hell I think that was his favorite song to use or something, He used it some for The Chronic, a lot on Doggystyle and even used it on 1 of the 2 tracks he contributed to All Eyez On me (Can't See Me).He used it as much as Ice did on the Death Certificate album.
On the Real, a lot of these songs appear they were either first versions or upgraded versions of previous tracks he made. Hell the "Old Times sake" tracks sounds something off The Eminem show.
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Dre used the same bassline twice on doggystyle. It's nothin new.
twice?
try 3 times.
"g funk intro" and "dre day" sample the same exact song
he was talking just doggystyle but yeah dre day as well
the ones on doggystyle
Gfunk into, Whats my name and Doggy dogg world
cant c see me aswell
true say
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I don't know if someone brought it up already, but the sample in "Crack a Bottle" was also used by Wu-Tang & Aesop Rock for the song "Preservation" on "Think Differently Music : Wu-Tang meets the indie culture" (2005)...
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9rj5ehxuRQM
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did Dre ever producer "Role Model" for Eminem??? i know he produced a 2-3 tracks on that CD but not sure if that was one
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did Dre ever producer "Role Model" for Eminem??? i know he produced a 2-3 tracks on that CD but not sure if that was one
Dr. Dre & Mel-Man. Still my favourite Em track to date...I love the bass on it.
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did Dre ever producer "Role Model" for Eminem??? i know he produced a 2-3 tracks on that CD but not sure if that was one
Dr. Dre & Mel-Man. Still my favourite Em track to date...I love the bass on it.
YOU PROBABLY WANT TO GROW UP JUST LIKE ME :D
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did Dre ever producer "Role Model" for Eminem??? i know he produced a 2-3 tracks on that CD but not sure if that was one
Dr. Dre & Mel-Man. Still my favourite Em track to date...I love the bass on it.
ok so it wasn't jeff base, just checking
i love that track but i think "As the world turns" is my fav
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The latest trend of cloning your own beat ( thanks Drumma boy) has even hit Dr Dre's lazy ass.
the "My Mom" instrumental is a slowed- down clone of "Gunz Come out" off of 50 cent's Massacre album.
my mom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbDy0Icb21c
gunz come out -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n03yT9A2MRg
the next one i noticed was Eminem's song " Bagpipes from Baghdad". This was tougher to figure out, but Dr Dre pulled a kanye and used a sped up sample; his own. its " Role Model"
Bagpipes from Baghdad -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIKfATRpUrQ
Role Model - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMWuXHno7oo
there is probably more, but i haven't heard the album fully, and i am not familiar with all of Dre's production. I sure as hell aint hyped for detox no more if he gonna be recycling s**t
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i hear what you tryin to say.. but.. i dont know..somehow i feel like detox aint gonna sound like those em beats
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Man Ya'll Hatein'
How come Nobody says something about Neptunes or Primo using the same Drums all the Time???
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With all due respect and I'm not tryin to start an argument or no shit loike that, but some of y'all really need y'all ears checked. Those or not recycled beats. Some of them may have a simular sound/style to them but why wouldn't they when it's the same producer who has his own tastes and what he perfers a record to sound like. Bagpipes is not Role Model, and the only thing the same on Grow up and Deja Vu is the programing of the drums (the pattern), they are not the same drums and they are two completly different guitars on there. They just both happen to be simple a simple drum pattern with a guitar line over them. But totaly differn actual sounds. The only beat I think he used the exact same drums were for Days of Way Back on niggas4life and the intro to the Chronic. Same drums but different music behind it. He used the drums off of Gin & Juice before too but can't remember right now (high, lol).
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Gin and Juice drums used on Whats the Difference!
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"Old Times Sake" beat pretty much is a twist of that Coors Light commercial he did back in 2002
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Gin and Juice drums used on Whats the Difference!
hell nah
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Some of the dre beats on relapse definately sounded very similar to previous dre tracks, aint no denying this for me, but some of the beats on this were atleast dope, which is refreshing to hear off dre.
pz!
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"Old Times Sake" beat pretty much is a twist of that Coors Light commercial he did back in 2002
"If I Can't" was a twist of that. But Dre should twist up the other Coors Light commercial...that beat was sick 8)
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Stay Wide Awake sounds nothing like the Coors Commercial.
I can't believe what i read here sometimes.
Some of you really need 2 see a Doctor.
Yo Ears seem to be Fucked Up.
Bagpipes from Baghdad sounds like Role Model???
I'm not even take this Tread serious anymore >:(
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dre aint gonna give em an album full of musical ass complex beats becasue it takes away from the lyrics he saves more complex beats for less lyrical rappers like himself snoop and even fif.
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With all due respect and I'm not tryin to start an argument or no shit loike that, but some of y'all really need y'all ears checked. Those or not recycled beats. Some of them may have a simular sound/style to them but why wouldn't they when it's the same producer who has his own tastes and what he perfers a record to sound like. Bagpipes is not Role Model, and the only thing the same on Grow up and Deja Vu is the programing of the drums (the pattern), they are not the same drums and they are two completly different guitars on there. They just both happen to be simple a simple drum pattern with a guitar line over them. But totaly differn actual sounds. The only beat I think he used the exact same drums were for Days of Way Back on niggas4life and the intro to the Chronic. Same drums but different music behind it. He used the drums off of Gin & Juice before too but can't remember right now (high, lol).
That's what I said
They both have the same set up, with the drums and they both have guitar riff.
Differences are
Grow Up: Is more calm, has less back beats, and a softer more soothing guitar riff
Deja Vu:Its more Chaotic and dark (To fit with the album), the guitar riff is different to help coincide with album's dark sound.It has extra back beats/production to help make it more chaotic.
Relapse is just Dr. Dre modifying his beats to sound different.Its all good though 8) 8) 8)
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there are only so many drum patterns and instruments in the world guys...and only a couple drum patterns sound "TIGHT" to Dre fans....you know which ones they are, as do i.
That bangin shit,
thow an instrument or 2 over it with the bass and thats it.
i still think dre's best 2001 or later beat is "outta control (remix)"
off em's album i think these beats are the dopest:
my mom
bagpipes
medicine ball (actually em just raps his ass off on here, his 2nd verse is my fav on the album)
deja vu (though i dont think its exactly crack a bottle, it does have a similar pattern *read above. The difference is the vibe and Eminem is actually rapping As HIMSELF on deja vu which is rare on the album
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dre needs to use that clap snare a little less...it sounds real dope on deja vu though.
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Bag Pipes is a sicc ass track, probly my Fav.......this album has some SICC-ASS KICKS and DRUMS. The Clearity Is Amazing, Cant Wait For The Actual CD to Drop Im Gonna Bump It Then.
as for the thread started, i dont see the recycle u claim, stop bashing and just enjoy the music if u dont like it then dont listen to it.
THESE DAYS TO HATE IS MORE THEN AN HOBBY, PEOPLE LIVE IT !!!
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Man Ya'll Hatein'
How come Nobody says something about Neptunes or Primo using the same Drums all the Time???
Touché
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Gin and Juice drums used on Whats the Difference!
hell nah
Real Talk, listen to the drum pattern. Both tracks I estimate is like 90-95 BPM's
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I also thought bagpipes from Baghdad sounded like role model as well. It is very similar just with bagpipes lol
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did Dre ever producer "Role Model" for Eminem??? i know he produced a 2-3 tracks on that CD but not sure if that was one
Dr. Dre & Mel-Man. Still my favourite Em track to date...I love the bass on it.
YOU PROBABLY WANT TO GROW UP JUST LIKE ME :D
YOU PROBABLY WANT TO GROW TO BE UP JUST LIKE ME :P
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Bag Pipes is a sicc ass track, probly my Fav.......this album has some SICC-ASS KICKS and DRUMS. The Clearity Is Amazing, Cant Wait For The Actual CD to Drop Im Gonna Bump It Then.
as for the thread started, i dont see the recycle u claim, stop bashing and just enjoy the music if u dont like it then dont listen to it.
THESE DAYS TO HATE IS MORE THEN AN HOBBY, PEOPLE LIVE IT !!!
Its not about hating, and no one saying we think the shit sucks ass, just because a mother fucker recycles doesn't mean its automatically shit nor does it automatically good. Its the same producer, he just redoing old ground. COnsidering Ems style of production was consistent on all the albums, I wouldn't expect anything different. Dr. Dre did his G-Funk thing since N.W.A then with Slim Shady LP he finally developed his new style and has been using his second 1 ever since. So its possible he modifies a previous one because he think he can build on it or something.
Or his ass cheaping out cause he's busting a nut over some Detox stuff. LOlz or he knows the 4 things em loves (Homosexuals,Drug Abuse,Shock Lyrics, his mom) and figures his ass will go out sell anyways because White people love him. XD Its entirely possible he is influenced by previous productions or he didn't notice. 8) 8) 8)
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Hey, couldn't be any worse then timbaland when he did ugly and get ur freak on, pretty much the same beat around the same time period.
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did Dre ever producer "Role Model" for Eminem??? i know he produced a 2-3 tracks on that CD but not sure if that was one
Dr. Dre & Mel-Man. Still my favourite Em track to date...I love the bass on it.
YOU PROBABLY WANT TO GROW UP JUST LIKE ME :D
YOU PROBABLY WANT TO GROW TO BE UP JUST LIKE ME :P
my bad :laugh:
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There is always something you can bitch about.