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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: R-Tistic on June 03, 2009, 10:01:08 AM
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It's almost been ten years since 2001 dropped (please, no Detox comments here LOL)...and the main thing everybody was talkin about at the time was Hittman...everyone said that he was to that album, what Snoop was on the Chronic.
It seems like a lot of us were mad that nothing ever happened with him after that, and aside from the clip at the end of the "Forgot about Dre" video, he was never heard from again commercially. A few of his songs leaked, and that street album he had leaked, but that was it.
Lookin back now, 10 years after the hype and all died....do you really think he would have made a major impact? When I listen to this album, I think he was a GREAT role player, and helped the album out a lot...but to say that he was anything near what Snoop was to Chronic is borderline clinically insane. I don't think anything about him really stood out in a major way, and he wouldn't have become a legend or even a major factor for the West...and this could be why Dre focused attention on 50 and other cats. Wait, yeah I said it...50 was much better at what he did, and Hittman would have never been half of that.
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yeah Hitt just really didn't have 'it'. He never really stood out to me, I was looking forward to him dropping album just cause anything dre puts out is hot IMO but he really wouldnt be anything without dres backing.
The same thing goes for Game, I mean the dude is no more talented than anyone coming out the west. The only thing that seperates him from everyone else is the Dr. Dre stamp of approval. Same thing with Bishop too, like I sade don't get it twisted I like what Game does and I like what Bishop does but its really all about the Dr.
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As far as I'm concerned he didn't have a major impact. The fact that he couldn't even capitalize off of being featured heavily on a Dre album shows this. I think any other rapper who had that opportunity would've ran with it, even after being dropped from Aftermath. At the very least he could've been doing the independent thing and keeping some of the buzz alive. Instead he disappeared off the face of the earth and dropped one album 6 years later without doing any kind of promotion. Rapping just isn't in the guy otherwise he would've been releasing new material in the 10 years since 2001.
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He didn't have that "it" quality in terms of Snoop but I'm sure during that time period 1999-2000 if he dropped an album the shit woulda been classic based on the track record Aftermath had during that time.
Hitt's Big Score and Not These Niggaz Again, albums I wish that were made. Instead Dre decided to release Truth Hurts ::)
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How many Los Angeles MC's really have made an impact?
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major impact?I dunno know hmm but i sure know that he was/is a great MC.He could easily blow up with Dres backing back in the days.
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Who can say for certain. It's all about opportunity. Honestly, if you remove hindsight from the equation, I doubt anyone would have believed that Game would have done as well as he did. Hittman was heavily featured on 2001 but he definitely wasn't as prominently featured as Snoop on The Chronic. When Chronic dropped, Snoop was already introduced through "Deep Cover". He was being pushed as Dre's protege. He's on the intro. He's on the first two singles. He's all over it.
When 2001 came out, it was a much bigger project and there was more going on. People were interested in Dre and Snoop being back together. Eminem was clearly on his way as Dre's next big protege. You had the Up In Smoke Tour and the N.W.A. reunion was making headlines. Hittman wasn't on any of the 2001 singles/videos, outside of the end of "Forgot About Dre". He wasn't much involved with the tour. He kind of got lost in the mix. As far as the 50 Cent thing, that's neither here or there. By the time, 50 was thrown into the mix, it was late 2002 and had almost been three years since the album dropped. The momentum was gone at that point.
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yeah Hitt just really didn't have 'it'. He never really stood out to me, I was looking forward to him dropping album just cause anything dre puts out is hot IMO but he really wouldnt be anything without dres backing.
The same thing goes for Game, I mean the dude is no more talented than anyone coming out the west. The only thing that seperates him from everyone else is the Dr. Dre stamp of approval. Same thing with Bishop too, like I sade don't get it twisted I like what Game does and I like what Bishop does but its really all about the Dr.
i beg to differ: hittman is definitely above average to me; same goes for bishop.
Dre can make artists better though.
hittman might not have become a major star, but we'll never know.
not to mention that i'm more interested in good music, than the next big thing.
Who can say for certain. It's all about opportunity. Honestly, if you remove hindsight from the equation, I doubt anyone would have believed that Game would have done as well as he did. Hittman was heavily featured on 2001 but he definitely wasn't as prominently featured as Snoop on The Chronic. When Chronic dropped, Snoop was already introduced through "Deep Cover". He was being pushed as Dre's protege. He's on the intro. He's on the first two singles. He's all over it.
When 2001 came out, it was a much bigger project and there was more going on. People were interested in Dre and Snoop being back together. Eminem was clearly on his way as Dre's next big protege. You had the Up In Smoke Tour and the N.W.A. reunion was making headlines. Hittman wasn't on any of the 2001 singles/videos, outside of the end of "Forgot About Dre". He wasn't much involved with the tour. He kind of got lost in the mix. As far as the 50 Cent thing, that's neither here or there. By the time, 50 was thrown into the mix, it was late 2002 and had almost been three years since the album dropped. The momentum was gone at that point.
hittman didn't join the tour, did he?
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Who can say for certain. It's all about opportunity. Honestly, if you remove hindsight from the equation, I doubt anyone would have believed that Game would have done as well as he did. Hittman was heavily featured on 2001 but he definitely wasn't as prominently featured as Snoop on The Chronic. When Chronic dropped, Snoop was already introduced through "Deep Cover". He was being pushed as Dre's protege. He's on the intro. He's on the first two singles. He's all over it.
When 2001 came out, it was a much bigger project and there was more going on. People were interested in Dre and Snoop being back together. Eminem was clearly on his way as Dre's next big protege. You had the Up In Smoke Tour and the N.W.A. reunion was making headlines. Hittman wasn't on any of the 2001 singles/videos, outside of the end of "Forgot About Dre". He wasn't much involved with the tour. He kind of got lost in the mix. As far as the 50 Cent thing, that's neither here or there. By the time, 50 was thrown into the mix, it was late 2002 and had almost been three years since the album dropped. The momentum was gone at that point.
hittman didn't join the tour, did he?
He was on the tour, just not featured on the DVD.
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Who can say for certain. It's all about opportunity. Honestly, if you remove hindsight from the equation, I doubt anyone would have believed that Game would have done as well as he did. Hittman was heavily featured on 2001 but he definitely wasn't as prominently featured as Snoop on The Chronic. When Chronic dropped, Snoop was already introduced through "Deep Cover". He was being pushed as Dre's protege. He's on the intro. He's on the first two singles. He's all over it.
When 2001 came out, it was a much bigger project and there was more going on. People were interested in Dre and Snoop being back together. Eminem was clearly on his way as Dre's next big protege. You had the Up In Smoke Tour and the N.W.A. reunion was making headlines. Hittman wasn't on any of the 2001 singles/videos, outside of the end of "Forgot About Dre". He wasn't much involved with the tour. He kind of got lost in the mix. As far as the 50 Cent thing, that's neither here or there. By the time, 50 was thrown into the mix, it was late 2002 and had almost been three years since the album dropped. The momentum was gone at that point.
hittman didn't join the tour, did he?
He was on the tour, just not featured on the DVD.
ah, that explains it.
do you know whether he performed anything, or was he just in the background?
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I'm sure he performed; I remember people at the time talking about it.
There were a load of other artists who performed that weren't featured on the DVD, like Tha Eastsidaz.
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I'm sure he performed; I remember people at the time talking about it.
There were a load of other artists who performed that weren't featured on the DVD, like Tha Eastsidaz.
i see, thanks for the answer ;)
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judging by the tracks we heard that were supposed to be on his aftermath album, it would've been a commercial flop. the album is cool and all but would not have done any numbers. i can see why it didn't get released. on the other hand, i'm still confused about why dre didn't drop the king t album.
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How can you consider Hittman a great rapper when he hasn't done jack since leaving Aftermath? At least Bishop has been releasing mixtapes and doing things this whole time. And I'm sure if he is dropped from Aftermath he will still be doing his thing. If rap was truly in Hittman's blood you would think he would have been putting out music since then. But how much have we heard from him?
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yeah he wouldnt have that snoop impact as many will never have that same impact, but he would have done some westcoast damage and hes a dope rapper
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I'm sure he performed; I remember people at the time talking about it.
There were a load of other artists who performed that weren't featured on the DVD, like Tha Eastsidaz.
That's because different artists performed at different venues. I know Cube didn't make all the dates because he was filming "Ghosts of Mars" around that time. The DVD was filmed in Boston so any artists that didn't play that night weren't likely to be included. The only set I know that didn't show up on the DVD was Warren G's.
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I'm sure he performed; I remember people at the time talking about it.
There were a load of other artists who performed that weren't featured on the DVD,like Tha Eastsidaz
At the LA show
TQ & Eastsidaz did some sets before Em,Cube & Dre.
Hittman was AWOL. Yes,there's a couple of tracks that didn't make the cut on the DVD like:
-XXXplosive
-Deep Cover
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-Chin Check
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I'm sure he performed; I remember people at the time talking about it.
There were a load of other artists who performed that weren't featured on the DVD,like Tha Eastsidaz
At the LA show
TQ & Eastsidaz did some sets before Em,Cube & Dre.
Hittman was AWOL. Yes,there's a couple of tracks that didn't make the cut on the DVD like:
-XXXplosive
-Deep Cover
&
-Chin Check
yeah i remember an interview with him where he said he wasn't at the tour. I believe he got dropped before it kicked off.
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He didn't have that "it" quality in terms of Snoop but I'm sure during that time period 1999-2000 if he dropped an album the shit woulda been classic based on the track record Aftermath had during that time.
Hell yeah, most of the tracks that got leaked were good records, shame what happened to him.
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no he wouldnt have. he would have been another disposable rapper
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I'm sure he performed; I remember people at the time talking about it.
There were a load of other artists who performed that weren't featured on the DVD,like Tha Eastsidaz
At the LA show
TQ & Eastsidaz did some sets before Em,Cube & Dre.
Hittman was AWOL. Yes,there's a couple of tracks that didn't make the cut on the DVD like:
-XXXplosive
-Deep Cover
&
-Chin Check
They did "Bitch Please II" too, i remember it playin on this "documentary" about "Up In Smoke" on MTV years ago, i used to have it on VHS back in the day. If i'm sure Tha Eastsidaz performed "G'd Up" and "Got Beef" (there's was some footage of them on stage), Warren & Nate performed" Regulate" and i know Snoop Dogg did "Gin & Juice".
yeah i remember an interview with him where he said he wasn't at the tour. I believe he got dropped before it kicked off.
You got a link to that interview? I remember Hittman sayin it was great to see them all on stage performin "Bitch Please II" and if i remember right, he was on stage too.
ThaFormula.com - How was The Up In Smoke Tour for you?
Hittman - It was incredible. A good experience. I learned alot, I saw alot. It gave me more fuel for my album.
ThaFormula.com - How was it being on stage in front of thousands at The Up In Smoke Tour?
Hittman - Man! The first night was horrifying. I'm used to the Roxy and the House Of Blues and that kind of shit. So that shit just fucked me up for a minute. That shit was unreal. Sometimes I sit down and just zone on that shit. The energy that you get from up there I can't even describe.
http://www.thaformula.com/hittman_the_last_days_thaformula_music.html (http://www.thaformula.com/hittman_the_last_days_thaformula_music.html)
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I'm pretty sure they didnt perform "Bitch Please 2". "Gin & Juice" yes,"aint no fun" is another one missing on the dvd.
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I'm pretty sure they didnt perform "Bitch Please 2". "Gin & Juice" yes,"aint no fun" is another one missing on the dvd.
I'm 90% sure they did, when i get my computer workin again, i'll try to find that documentary.
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Yeah I saw the tour when it came to Albany NY. Hittman wasn't there but that show was sick, one of the best shows i've ever seen. Suprisingly I like Eminem but his set was by far the worst, perhaps it was all the 9 year old girls that were only there to see him screaming that ruined it.
Ice Cubes stage setup was sick with the blocks of Ice.
Then I went to the Snoop's puff puff pass tour next year, and man what a let down that was after seeing Up In Smoke. I mean I was real pumped to see Bad Azz because that was around the time Personal Business came out and that was my shit, but the quality of that show was just down. The sound was all fucked up couldn't hear shit.
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I'm pretty sure they didnt perform"Bitch Please 2"."Gin & Juice" yes,"aint no fun" is another one missing on the dvd
I'm 90% sure they did,when i get my computer workin again, i'll try to find that documentary
Then maybe they added it to Dre's set later at the tour(?)