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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Halu Sination on July 20, 2009, 06:28:41 PM
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He's thrown minor shots at the sport of mixed martial arts before, but he later took those statements back and apologized.
This time around, he's going a lot further, saying mixed martial arts is for "beer drinkers" and that they fight like animals (the criticism we've all heard before). But to top it all off, he's now throwing in the race card.
"In boxing, we know who's dominating. Black fighters and Hispanic fighers is dominating in this sport. And this is not a racial statement but there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating, so they had to go to something else and start something new."
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Mayweather-Whites-needed-a-fight-sport-so-they;_ylt=AsLqDFe1W_TSZIcdcuSeIn89Eo14?urn=mma,177541
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LOL, this guy could make the most egotistical person look quiet & soft spoken
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^ Haha forreal
I'm a huge fan of both sports and I've even defended Floyd in the past but I gotta say... it's pretty cleary that Mayweather is bitter here, and it goes without saying that he's well-aware that the sport in which he dominates is dying out big time.
Probably the only thing he said that's true is that he makes a bigger revenue per fight than the top MMA guys, but that doesn't even have anything to do with his argument.
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"In boxing, we know who's dominating. Black fighters and Hispanic fighers is dominating in this sport. And this is not a racial statement but there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating, so they had to go to something else and start something new."
eye read that and nothing but the truth registers. its a true statement
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LMAO what a joke.....MMA is far more skilled and technical sport than boxing is....I'd love to see pretty boy step in the octogon with GSP or Penn, and get his ass handed to him!
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Wasn't he considering doing MMA shortly before he "retired" ?
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floyds the man
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I find mma too boring.For every 5 seconds of excitment its 30 minutes of dudes awkwardly spooning
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"In boxing, we know who's dominating. Black fighters and Hispanic fighers is dominating in this sport. And this is not a racial statement but there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating, so they had to go to something else and start something new."
eye read that and nothing but the truth registers. its a true statement
haha that is tru
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Jake Lamotta >>> Money. 8)
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I find mma too boring.For every 5 seconds of excitment its 30 minutes of dudes awkwardly spooning
and for every 5 seconds of exciting in the boxing ring, more "dancing" and "Hugging" each other
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Klitschko would destroy any black and hispanic boxer right now... if a white guy would make a statement like this he probably would be banned from the sport all career long.
Is he and some morons in this thread really so uninformed that he doesn't know about Klitschko dominating the heavy weight class?
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LMAO what a joke.....MMA is far more skilled and technical sport than boxing is....I'd love to see pretty boy step in the octogon with GSP or Penn, and get his ass handed to him!
No shit, it's mixed martial arts.........but
For every 5 seconds of excitment its 30 minutes of dudes awkwardly spooning
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I bet Michael Phelps could out swim Tiger Woods aswell... ::)
Different sport's.
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I bet Michael Phelps could out swim Tiger Woods aswell... ::)
Different sport's.
Not really, because Phelps has no chance against Woods in Golf and Woods has no chance against Phelps in swimming. You can put Brock Lesnar vs Wladimir Klitschko in either the UFC or the IBF, WBO, or IBO and both fighters in each case regardless of the rules will stand a puncher's chance. Wladimir has shown a weak chin in the past and a lucky shot from Brock could drop him, and just as easily in the UFC Wladimir can hit a strong combo with his reach and drop Brock. In both cases however the clear cut favorite would be the one fighting in their element.
If Boxing was smart right now they'd find a who can box but is also well versed in wrestling and submissions (plenty of them exist) and then put him in a UFC ring as WBC Champion or whatever. If a Boxing promoter can produce a guy like this, and especially a guy that can win by outboxing the guy and KOing the UFC fighter it would instantly cast doubt in the minds of the common fans and have them start accepting boxing as the best fighter sport out there.
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I bet Michael Phelps could out swim Tiger Woods aswell... ::)
Different sport's.
Not really, because Phelps has no chance against Woods in Golf and Woods has no chance against Phelps in swimming. You can put Brock Lesnar vs Wladimir Klitschko in either the UFC or the IBF, WBO, or IBO and both fighters in each case regardless of the rules will stand a puncher's chance. Wladimir has shown a weak chin in the past and a lucky shot from Brock could drop him, and just as easily in the UFC Wladimir can hit a strong combo with his reach and drop Brock. In both cases however the clear cut favorite would be the one fighting in their element.
If Boxing was smart right now they'd find a who can box but is also well versed in wrestling and submissions (plenty of them exist) and then put him in a UFC ring as WBC Champion or whatever. If a Boxing promoter can produce a guy like this, and especially a guy that can win by outboxing the guy and KOing the UFC fighter it would instantly cast doubt in the minds of the common fans and have them start accepting boxing as the best fighter sport out there.
If they stand-up only Klit Knock's Brock's head off within 3min's guaranteed.
If they have to have to lube up & take it to the ground, Klit will get pounded like raw fish.
Different dynamic's, Different sport's.
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I bet Michael Phelps could out swim Tiger Woods aswell... ::)
Different sport's.
Not really, because Phelps has no chance against Woods in Golf and Woods has no chance against Phelps in swimming. You can put Brock Lesnar vs Wladimir Klitschko in either the UFC or the IBF, WBO, or IBO and both fighters in each case regardless of the rules will stand a puncher's chance. Wladimir has shown a weak chin in the past and a lucky shot from Brock could drop him, and just as easily in the UFC Wladimir can hit a strong combo with his reach and drop Brock. In both cases however the clear cut favorite would be the one fighting in their element.
If Boxing was smart right now they'd find a who can box but is also well versed in wrestling and submissions (plenty of them exist) and then put him in a UFC ring as WBC Champion or whatever. If a Boxing promoter can produce a guy like this, and especially a guy that can win by outboxing the guy and KOing the UFC fighter it would instantly cast doubt in the minds of the common fans and have them start accepting boxing as the best fighter sport out there.
If they stand-up only Klit Knock's Brock's head off within 3min's guaranteed.
If they have to have to lube up & take it to the ground, Klit will get pounded like raw fish.
Different dynamic's, Different sport's.
My point is that Brock can be taught to fight close and hold a lot and could easily go the full 12. He has a great chin. He also has a heavy hand that can shake someone's brain. And Wlad could easily hit a lucky series of shots that could drop anyone in the UFC. The point is it's not impossible. It's impossible for Tiger to out-swim Phelps, or Jordan to outskate Gretzky, or Dan Marino to out pitch Clemens. It's not impossible for a UFC fighter to KO a boxer or a boxer to KO a wrestler.
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"In boxing, we know who's dominating. Black fighters and Hispanic fighers is dominating in this sport. And this is not a racial statement but there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating, so they had to go to something else and start something new."
eye read that and nothing but the truth registers. its a true statement
haha that is tru
got some truth to it yeah
If Boxing was smart right now they'd find a who can box but is also well versed in wrestling and submissions (plenty of them exist) and then put him in a UFC ring as WBC Champion or whatever. If a Boxing promoter can produce a guy like this, and especially a guy that can win by outboxing the guy and KOing the UFC fighter it would instantly cast doubt in the minds of the common fans and have them start accepting boxing as the best fighter sport out there.
maybe
Jake Lamotta >>> Money. 8)
fuck yeah ;D
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Calzaghe defeated two legends in a year and Jeff Lacy.
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step ya game up....you know, i keeps me a private jet
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LMAO what a joke.....MMA is far more skilled and technical sport than boxing is...!
Both are about the same though in the skilled and technical department. In MMA you can have a ground fighter vs a stand up fighter, and it will be interesting to see who controls what. In Boxing, you get to see an inside fighter vs an outside fighter. I haven't watched that many MMA fights, but I'm sure there has been cases where the ground expert loses in the ground to the stand up fighter.
On the personal level, part of why I enjoy boxing more is that ability of the comeback. You can get knocked down and have time to recover. While in MMA, odds are you are done for if you get caught because they jump on you. Boxing also has more of chance to give you an epic long fight.
And about Floyd, people take him too seriously. Anyways, odds are he was talking about white americans not the Europeans lol
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Calzaghe defeated two legends in a year and Jeff Lacy.
joe was great
LMAO what a joke.....MMA is far more skilled and technical sport than boxing is...!
Both are about the same though in the skilled and technical department. In MMA you can have a ground fighter vs a stand up fighter, and it will be interesting to see who controls what. In Boxing, you get to see an inside fighter vs an outside fighter. I haven't watched that many MMA fights, but I'm sure there has been cases where the ground expert loses in the ground to the stand up fighter.
On the personal level, part of why I enjoy boxing more is that ability of the comeback. You can get knocked down and have time to recover. While in MMA, odds are you are done for if you get caught because they jump on you. Boxing also has more of chance to give you an epic long fight.
And about Floyd, people take him too seriously. Anyways, odds are he was talking about white americans not the Europeans lol
true that. I still prefer boxing though, but I also appreciate MMA. and yeah, he must be talkin about white americans, and I can admit that even being white from america, blacks and hispanics dominate the sport right now along with european boxers. and it's a shame for me being white and from america with italian and irish heritage not to see some more white american fighters today. nevertheless floyd's a great fucking boxer and those statements got some truth to it even thought we shouldn't be takin him too serious
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Klitschko would destroy any black and hispanic boxer right now... if a white guy would make a statement like this he probably would be banned from the sport all career long.
Is he and some morons in this thread really so uninformed that he doesn't know about Klitschko dominating the heavy weight class?
just your bitching up. whites hung Blacks if they felt that they looked at them wrong and NOTHING COULD OR WOULD BE DONE ABOUT. but your complaining because there is no outcry by the public about it? deal with it honkey. Double standard ? Yes it is oh well. when Blacks get to hang whites for no reason and no repercussions are dealt. then start complaining
One person doesn't qualify as dominating. are you that stupid you dont know what dominating means?
third Heavyweight boxing is boring and whack now
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Klitschko would destroy any black and hispanic boxer right now... if a white guy would make a statement like this he probably would be banned from the sport all career long.
Is he and some morons in this thread really so uninformed that he doesn't know about Klitschko dominating the heavy weight class?
just your bitching up. whites hung Blacks if they felt that they looked at them wrong and NOTHING COULD OR WOULD BE DONE ABOUT. but your complaining because there is no outcry by the public about it? deal with it honkey. Double standard ? Yes it is oh well. when Blacks get to hang whites for no reason and no repercussions are dealt. then start complaining
One person doesn't qualify as dominating. are you that stupid you dont know what dominating means?
third Heavyweight boxing is boring and whack now
Dumb motherfucker, his exact words were "there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating" - which is an outright LIE.
Heavyweight boxing is boring because the white guy is too good. I bet my life on it: If there's a crazy black dude dominating heavyweight boxing, you wouldn't say that.
How can you say whites can't compete in boxing when a white guy would beat ANY black or hispanic boxer in the world?
How can you say there is no white boxer dominating when there clearly is?
Plus, you are complaining about the current situation of blacks and the current racism of whites. So don't give me that lynching from back in the day talk.
You got served.
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i think one day someone is gonna die or get crippled from MMA and they wont let it be a sport anymore
i like boxing better cus more action and id rather see two people stand and punch and take punches then 2 people hump on the floor and try to kick eachother
but i do respect how MMA is able to control their opponent on the floor and on foot
boxing has been here for centuries though and its not going no where even though judges are corrupt and so are some promoters
but one day MMA will get like that also because everyone that cant hack it in the ring goes and jumps in the octagon so its a growing sport and are gonna have alot of other championships just like boxing has WBO,IBF,WBC, and WBA
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A more accurate statement would be 'the reason why the heavyweight boxing is boring is because ONE person is dominating the division'. Nothing to do with being 'white'. I wouldn't even call him white too, I'd say he's european.
Anyway, the only reason he's dominating is because there aren't many quality heavyweights..................black, white, yellow, green...........
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all the athletes that had potential to be great heavyweights are playing football, or basketball
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all the athletes that had potential to be great heavyweights are playing football, or basketball
very true
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lol it might sound fucked up, but its the truth. Ive never been that big of a fan of MMA. The shit is pretty fuckin boring. As far as Floyd not standing a chance in the octogon. Probably so, its not his style. You wouldnt as a boxer to fight a kick boxer either, he would be at a disadvantage. But if you put it in reverese, put any MMA guy in Floyds weight class in the ring and fight under boxing rules, he'd get humiliated.
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Klitschko would destroy any black and hispanic boxer right now... if a white guy would make a statement like this he probably would be banned from the sport all career long.
Is he and some morons in this thread really so uninformed that he doesn't know about Klitschko dominating the heavy weight class?
just your bitching up. whites hung Blacks if they felt that they looked at them wrong and NOTHING COULD OR WOULD BE DONE ABOUT. but your complaining because there is no outcry by the public about it? deal with it honkey. Double standard ? Yes it is oh well. when Blacks get to hang whites for no reason and no repercussions are dealt. then start complaining
One person doesn't qualify as dominating. are you that stupid you dont know what dominating means?
third Heavyweight boxing is boring and whack now
Dumb motherfucker, his exact words were "there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating" - which is an outright LIE.
Heavyweight boxing is boring because the white guy is too good. I bet my life on it: If there's a crazy black dude dominating heavyweight boxing, you wouldn't say that.
How can you say whites can't compete in boxing when a white guy would beat ANY black or hispanic boxer in the world?
How can you say there is no white boxer dominating when there clearly is?
Plus, you are complaining about the current situation of blacks and the current racism of whites. So don't give me that lynching from back in the day talk.
You got served.
It's not because they're white, it's because they aren't American. If Heavyweight Boxing was being dominated by an American white guy it'd be huge in the states, like it is in Eastern Europe right now. A real like Rocky Balboa would be ten times as big as Ali, and Tyson in their prime combined. Shit, the fake Rocky Balboa even has his own staue in Philly.
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Thats bull, you got all these black dudes like Rashad & Rampage that have been or are champions & I'm only talking about the UFC. Theres lots of promotions in & out the US that concentrate on MMA. MMA is mixed martial arts, that means boxing is also a part of it. Some of these guys actually come from boxing backgrounds & have real knockout power so to say Floyd would run circles around them in boxing - get real ::) Oh & if someone doesn't know their jiu-jitsu or wrestling, of course they're gonna be bored watching someone doing takedowns on the next man & MMA isn't only about that, you got a whole bunch of matches were noone goes to the ground & is all stand up.
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Thats bull, you got all these black dudes like Rashad & Rampage that have been or are champions & I'm only talking about the UFC. Theres lots of promotions in & out the US that concentrate on MMA. MMA is mixed martial arts, that means boxing is also a part of it. Some of these guys actually come from boxing backgrounds & have real knockout power so to say Floyd would run circles around them in boxing - get real ::) Oh & if someone doesn't know their jiu-jitsu or wrestling, of course they're gonna be bored watching someone doing takedowns on the next man & MMA isn't only about that, you got a whole bunch of matches were noone goes to the ground & is all stand up.
Naw, thats not it. Its just boring lol. I mean, at first I got into it a little. But its nothing compared to a good boxing match to me. And yes, some of these guys come from boxing backgrounds...but its completely ridiculous to think any of these guys would stand a chance in a boxing ring with a world class boxer fighting under boxing rules. Just the same, like I said, a boxer wouldnt be able to compete in a MMA ring under MMA rules. Either fighter will always have a "punchers" chance. But its two completely different styles of fighting. Boxers spend their entire life training to box with their hands. Nothing else is used. You can imagine how skilled they become, particulary an elite fighter. MMA fighters, even if FROM a boxing background are probably not elite boxers...or they would have kept boxing. They work on a lot of aspects of MMA, not necessarily focusing on just ONE particular aspect. Meaning, they are skilled overall....but the boxer who only trains his hands...will have more skill in his hands. Fighting under his rules gives him the advantage. I couldnt even imagine what would happen to an MMA fighter in the ring with a boxer the Caliber of say a Shane Mosley. With his power and hand speed, any MMA fighter would be lucky to land a punch...or last more then a couple rounds (in a boxing ring under boxing rules).
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yeah Shane would fuck Rashard up in a boxing match but im sure in wrestling or jui jitsu Rashard would show him a couple of things
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yeah Shane would fuck Rashard up in a boxing match but im sure in wrestling or jui jitsu Rashard would show him a couple of things
exactly. Its like comparing a pitcher to a quarterback. They both throw a ball, but a quarterback would not necessarily be a great pitcher, and a pitcher would not necessarily be a great quarterback.
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eye give it sometime and Blacks are dominating MMA mark by words
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eye give it sometime and Blacks are dominating MMA mark by words
yeah just like they dominate the prison system, crime, gang violence, pregnancy, un paid child support, and many other things
::)
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Thats bull, you got all these black dudes like Rashad & Rampage that have been or are champions & I'm only talking about the UFC. Theres lots of promotions in & out the US that concentrate on MMA. MMA is mixed martial arts, that means boxing is also a part of it. Some of these guys actually come from boxing backgrounds & have real knockout power so to say Floyd would run circles around them in boxing - get real ::) Oh & if someone doesn't know their jiu-jitsu or wrestling, of course they're gonna be bored watching someone doing takedowns on the next man & MMA isn't only about that, you got a whole bunch of matches were noone goes to the ground & is all stand up.
Naw, thats not it. Its just boring lol. I mean, at first I got into it a little. But its nothing compared to a good boxing match to me. And yes, some of these guys come from boxing backgrounds...but its completely ridiculous to think any of these guys would stand a chance in a boxing ring with a world class boxer fighting under boxing rules. Just the same, like I said, a boxer wouldnt be able to compete in a MMA ring under MMA rules. Either fighter will always have a "punchers" chance. But its two completely different styles of fighting. Boxers spend their entire life training to box with their hands. Nothing else is used. You can imagine how skilled they become, particulary an elite fighter. MMA fighters, even if FROM a boxing background are probably not elite boxers...or they would have kept boxing. They work on a lot of aspects of MMA, not necessarily focusing on just ONE particular aspect. Meaning, they are skilled overall....but the boxer who only trains his hands...will have more skill in his hands. Fighting under his rules gives him the advantage. I couldnt even imagine what would happen to an MMA fighter in the ring with a boxer the Caliber of say a Shane Mosley. With his power and hand speed, any MMA fighter would be lucky to land a punch...or last more then a couple rounds (in a boxing ring under boxing rules).
I know what you're saying. I trained a little jiu-jitsu so I might find it a lot more interesting than other people. Anyways the way I've seen how hard some MMA fighters train their conditioning & overall fighting sklills & tactics I do think a MMA fighter with good hands could KO a proffesional boxer. Also these guys may train various fighting styles but they usually choose a style that fits them best. I've seen alot of MMA fights & Shane Mosely isn't the only guy with power & speed 8)
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Thats bull, you got all these black dudes like Rashad & Rampage that have been or are champions & I'm only talking about the UFC. Theres lots of promotions in & out the US that concentrate on MMA. MMA is mixed martial arts, that means boxing is also a part of it. Some of these guys actually come from boxing backgrounds & have real knockout power so to say Floyd would run circles around them in boxing - get real ::) Oh & if someone doesn't know their jiu-jitsu or wrestling, of course they're gonna be bored watching someone doing takedowns on the next man & MMA isn't only about that, you got a whole bunch of matches were noone goes to the ground & is all stand up.
Naw, thats not it. Its just boring lol. I mean, at first I got into it a little. But its nothing compared to a good boxing match to me. And yes, some of these guys come from boxing backgrounds...but its completely ridiculous to think any of these guys would stand a chance in a boxing ring with a world class boxer fighting under boxing rules. Just the same, like I said, a boxer wouldnt be able to compete in a MMA ring under MMA rules. Either fighter will always have a "punchers" chance. But its two completely different styles of fighting. Boxers spend their entire life training to box with their hands. Nothing else is used. You can imagine how skilled they become, particulary an elite fighter. MMA fighters, even if FROM a boxing background are probably not elite boxers...or they would have kept boxing. They work on a lot of aspects of MMA, not necessarily focusing on just ONE particular aspect. Meaning, they are skilled overall....but the boxer who only trains his hands...will have more skill in his hands. Fighting under his rules gives him the advantage. I couldnt even imagine what would happen to an MMA fighter in the ring with a boxer the Caliber of say a Shane Mosley. With his power and hand speed, any MMA fighter would be lucky to land a punch...or last more then a couple rounds (in a boxing ring under boxing rules).
I know what you're saying. I trained a little jiu-jitsu so I might find it a lot more interesting than other people. Anyways the way I've seen how hard some MMA fighters train their conditioning & overall fighting sklills & tactics I do think a MMA fighter with good hands could KO a proffesional boxer. Also these guys may train various fighting styles but they usually choose a style that fits them best. I've seen alot of MMA fights & Shane Mosely isn't the only guy with power & speed 8)
without a doubt an MMA guy might be able to knock out a professional boxer. And without a doubt, a professional boxer might be able to step into the octogon and land a clean shot to the head and knock out an MMA fighter. Its just when I watch MMA, even so called strikers dont seem to have THAT much hand speed or even that snap that a great puncher in boxing would have in their punches. Take the hardest punching MMA heavyweight, and say Mike Tyson. Who would you rather take a punch to the jaw from? lol. I think id let the MMA fighter take off on me WAYYY before Tyson.
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^I don't know, I wouldn't want to get hit by any of these guys, period :P
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In no rules street fights I would take mma fighters over boxers
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I wouldn't even call him white too, I'd say he's european.
What kind of dumb statement is that? Europeans aren't white? Only white Americans are?
It's not because they're white, it's because they aren't American. If Heavyweight Boxing was being dominated by an American white guy it'd be huge in the states, like it is in Eastern Europe right now. A real like Rocky Balboa would be ten times as big as Ali, and Tyson in their prime combined. Shit, the fake Rocky Balboa even has his own staue in Philly.
I wasn't talking about the American public in general, but to job. If a boxer from Congo would dominate the heavyweight class, no way he would hate on heavyweight boxing.
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I wouldn't even call him white too, I'd say he's european.
What kind of dumb statement is that? Europeans aren't white? Only white Americans are?
:laugh:
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Mayweather totally avoiding the Super Middleweight division then with his comments?
A division where every world title is held by a white European. A division that untill he retired was dominated by Joe Calzaghe (Total pro recored of 46 wins 32 by KO, 0 defeats & 0 draws), untill he went to light-heavyweight and beat Bernard Hopkins (who claimed "he'd never lose to a white boy.") & Roy Jones Jr?
WBA Mikkel Kessler (Denmark)
WBC Carl Froch (United Kingdom)
WBO Károly Balzsay (Hungary)
IBF Lucian Bute (Romania)
Same for Middleweight, where again all world titles are held by white boxers
The Ring, WBO, WBC - Kelly Pavlik (American)
WBA - Felix Strum (Germany)
IBF - Arthur Abraham (Armenia/Germany)
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It's not because they're white, it's because they aren't American. If Heavyweight Boxing was being dominated by an American white guy it'd be huge in the states, like it is in Eastern Europe right now. A real like Rocky Balboa would be ten times as big as Ali, and Tyson in their prime combined. Shit, the fake Rocky Balboa even has his own staue in Philly.
I wasn't talking about the American public in general, but to job. If a boxer from Congo would dominate the heavyweight class, no way he would hate on heavyweight boxing.
My mistake. I thought you were making a general statement on the popularity of Boxing in North America. I don't know Job, but I'll take your word for it.
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Mayweather knows how popular and competitive boxing is in Europe. For fuck's sake, one of his bigger pay days came from fighting Ricky Hatton. Since Mayweather is one of those people that talks without thinking, you gotta basically see what he was trying to say. Knowing how dumb this dude is with his comments, he probably did simply mean whites from the U.S., and not every white person in the world.
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Mayweather knows how popular and competitive boxing is in Europe. For fuck's sake, one of his bigger pay days came from fighting Ricky Hatton. Since Mayweather is one of those people that talks without thinking, you gotta basically see what he was trying to say. Knowing how dumb this dude is with his comments, he probably did simply mean whites from the U.S., and not every white person in the world.
I dunno. Like it or not, Blacks and Hispanics HAVE dominated boxing for years. Just because there was a big pay day for fighting Hatton, doesnt mean Hatton was a GREAT fighter lol. He got completely mopped by Pacquiao. Im a Pac-Man fan, and even I was embarassed for Hatton lol. Larry Holmes vs Gerry Cooney was one of the biggest fights of all time, but Gerry Cooney wasnt an all time great lol He was just White, and Holmes was Black. You know damn well, even with the rise in European fighters, the US is where its at for boxing.
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I wouldn't even call him white too, I'd say he's european.
What kind of dumb statement is that? Europeans aren't white? Only white Americans are?
It's not because they're white, it's because they aren't American. If Heavyweight Boxing was being dominated by an American white guy it'd be huge in the states, like it is in Eastern Europe right now. A real like Rocky Balboa would be ten times as big as Ali, and Tyson in their prime combined. Shit, the fake Rocky Balboa even has his own staue in Philly.
I wasn't talking about the American public in general, but to job. If a boxer from Congo would dominate the heavyweight class, no way he would hate on heavyweight boxing.
nigga heavy weight boxing been boring you clown since tyson and hollyfield last went at it. aint nobody trying to watch some match that dont last more than a couple of rounds
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eye give it sometime and Blacks are dominating MMA mark by words
yeah just like they dominate the prison system, crime, gang violence, pregnancy, un paid child support, and many other things
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aint you mexican?
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eye give it sometime and Blacks are dominating MMA mark by words
yeah just like they dominate the prison system, crime, gang violence, pregnancy, un paid child support, and many other things
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aint you mexican?
yeah but i just felt like talking shit
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eye give it sometime and Blacks are dominating MMA mark by words
yeah just like they dominate the prison system, crime, gang violence, pregnancy, un paid child support, and many other things
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aint you mexican?
yeah but i just felt like talking shit
alright then so eye guess you already know nigga.
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Mayweather knows how popular and competitive boxing is in Europe. For fuck's sake, one of his bigger pay days came from fighting Ricky Hatton. Since Mayweather is one of those people that talks without thinking, you gotta basically see what he was trying to say. Knowing how dumb this dude is with his comments, he probably did simply mean whites from the U.S., and not every white person in the world.
I dunno. Like it or not, Blacks and Hispanics HAVE dominated boxing for years. Just because there was a big pay day for fighting Hatton, doesnt mean Hatton was a GREAT fighter lol. He got completely mopped by Pacquiao. Im a Pac-Man fan, and even I was embarassed for Hatton lol. Larry Holmes vs Gerry Cooney was one of the biggest fights of all time, but Gerry Cooney wasnt an all time great lol He was just White, and Holmes was Black. You know damn well, even with the rise in European fighters, the US is where its at for boxing.
I'm just pointing out the fact that he most likely meant white americans over white europeans. I'm pretty much in agreement with you.
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Mayweather knows how popular and competitive boxing is in Europe. For fuck's sake, one of his bigger pay days came from fighting Ricky Hatton. Since Mayweather is one of those people that talks without thinking, you gotta basically see what he was trying to say. Knowing how dumb this dude is with his comments, he probably did simply mean whites from the U.S., and not every white person in the world.
I dunno. Like it or not, Blacks and Hispanics HAVE dominated boxing for years. Just because there was a big pay day for fighting Hatton, doesnt mean Hatton was a GREAT fighter lol. He got completely mopped by Pacquiao. Im a Pac-Man fan, and even I was embarassed for Hatton lol. Larry Holmes vs Gerry Cooney was one of the biggest fights of all time, but Gerry Cooney wasnt an all time great lol He was just White, and Holmes was Black. You know damn well, even with the rise in European fighters, the US is where its at for boxing.
It's not that those white European fighters who own their divisions are so much weaker than anybody from the US, it's that Americans can't be bothered to care unless Americans are involved in something. The US is where it's at for boxing... yeah, if you want American media/people to care. Difference is simple: Europeans and Asians also care if it's Americans they're watching... Americans only care if it's their own people they're watching. Now of course this a super-generalization, and many Europeans, Asians, Americans sure aren't like that, but when talking about the general media/hype/mainstream, then it sure is true.
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can you quit trying to be Stephen Smith already?
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If you quit trying to be Pancho Villa, Keak da Sneak and BTNH, I promise I will give it a shot.
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Mayweather knows how popular and competitive boxing is in Europe. For fuck's sake, one of his bigger pay days came from fighting Ricky Hatton. Since Mayweather is one of those people that talks without thinking, you gotta basically see what he was trying to say. Knowing how dumb this dude is with his comments, he probably did simply mean whites from the U.S., and not every white person in the world.
I dunno. Like it or not, Blacks and Hispanics HAVE dominated boxing for years. Just because there was a big pay day for fighting Hatton, doesnt mean Hatton was a GREAT fighter lol. He got completely mopped by Pacquiao. Im a Pac-Man fan, and even I was embarassed for Hatton lol. Larry Holmes vs Gerry Cooney was one of the biggest fights of all time, but Gerry Cooney wasnt an all time great lol He was just White, and Holmes was Black. You know damn well, even with the rise in European fighters, the US is where its at for boxing.
It wasn't just because he was white. He was undefeated at the time and had KOed some big names in boxing on his way up. He also had the hardest left hand in boxing history. Would it have drawn the money if he was black, or if Holmes was white? No, but it was still a deserved title shot and a valiant effort. In today's 12 round rules he would have lost a close split decision (or won if it was fixed).
And if the rules stayed the same from trhe Dempsey era of no stoppages and 30+ rounds a fight George Chuvalo would have been the greatest of all time because he would have beaten Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman and anyone else he came across.
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Mayweather knows how popular and competitive boxing is in Europe. For fuck's sake, one of his bigger pay days came from fighting Ricky Hatton. Since Mayweather is one of those people that talks without thinking, you gotta basically see what he was trying to say. Knowing how dumb this dude is with his comments, he probably did simply mean whites from the U.S., and not every white person in the world.
I dunno. Like it or not, Blacks and Hispanics HAVE dominated boxing for years. Just because there was a big pay day for fighting Hatton, doesnt mean Hatton was a GREAT fighter lol. He got completely mopped by Pacquiao. Im a Pac-Man fan, and even I was embarassed for Hatton lol. Larry Holmes vs Gerry Cooney was one of the biggest fights of all time, but Gerry Cooney wasnt an all time great lol He was just White, and Holmes was Black. You know damn well, even with the rise in European fighters, the US is where its at for boxing.
It wasn't just because he was white. He was undefeated at the time and had KOed some big names in boxing on his way up. He also had the hardest left hand in boxing history. Would it have drawn the money if he was black, or if Holmes was white? No, but it was still a deserved title shot and a valiant effort. In today's 12 round rules he would have lost a close split decision (or won if it was fixed).
lol!! It was completely a race thing. Any boxing historian would tell you the same. Whites at that time were dying for a heavyweight contender, "The Great White Hope". The sides were completely split as far as fans. Whites pulling for Cooney, Blacks pulling for Holmes.
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Mayweather knows how popular and competitive boxing is in Europe. For fuck's sake, one of his bigger pay days came from fighting Ricky Hatton. Since Mayweather is one of those people that talks without thinking, you gotta basically see what he was trying to say. Knowing how dumb this dude is with his comments, he probably did simply mean whites from the U.S., and not every white person in the world.
I dunno. Like it or not, Blacks and Hispanics HAVE dominated boxing for years. Just because there was a big pay day for fighting Hatton, doesnt mean Hatton was a GREAT fighter lol. He got completely mopped by Pacquiao. Im a Pac-Man fan, and even I was embarassed for Hatton lol. Larry Holmes vs Gerry Cooney was one of the biggest fights of all time, but Gerry Cooney wasnt an all time great lol He was just White, and Holmes was Black. You know damn well, even with the rise in European fighters, the US is where its at for boxing.
It's not that those white European fighters who own their divisions are so much weaker than anybody from the US, it's that Americans can't be bothered to care unless Americans are involved in something. The US is where it's at for boxing... yeah, if you want American media/people to care. Difference is simple: Europeans and Asians also care if it's Americans they're watching... Americans only care if it's their own people they're watching. Now of course this a super-generalization, and many Europeans, Asians, Americans sure aren't like that, but when talking about the general media/hype/mainstream, then it sure is true.
Pacquiao is the biggest draw in boxing right now. He isnt American. But if you want to keep pushing for the idea that European fighters are better then US fighters, go ahead. I wont laugh at you.
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eye give it sometime and Blacks are dominating MMA mark by words
yeah just like they dominate the prison system, crime, gang violence, pregnancy, un paid child support, and many other things
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aint you mexican?
yeah but i just felt like talking shit
alright then so eye guess you already know nigga.
LMAO