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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: RhyanG on July 25, 2009, 01:23:14 AM
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dats what boxden says
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thats a shame if thats true, its wanna of the best albums of the year, seem strange only selling that when death row dayz vol 1 sold 250 copies and that was from ftp...
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Goddamn that is bad.It is a good album.But 172 copies?damn
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i wonder how many of those were his own purchases...
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LOL no shit.I could release an album tommorow and sell more then that
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shitty deal if its tru.
im sure yukmouth/regime features pay him more,, :loco: :loco: :loco:
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Sorry, i just can never get over the fact he was a pac' biter in the past and for that reason alone i just cant take him serious. I just laugh when I hear his name (mainly coz i have a funny friend who is a fan of his and still being a big 2pac fan at the same time)
Does he still rap like 2Pac? word pronouncations and all?
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where on boxden does it say this , i looked and i cant find any mention of it.
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Damn Tha Realest obviously isn't well known and gets a lot of hate for swagger jacking Pac but god damn...172 copies?
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thats gotta make someone feel like killing themselves
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WITNESS MY ALBUM NUMBERS! ;D
Poor Jevon.... :'(
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LOL no shit.I could release an album tommorow and sell more then that
i'd cop it if you had a guest appearance by Crooked 8)
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That's what happens with absolutely ZERO promotion. No hate to Tha Realest, but this can't be a surprise.
When was the last time you were outside in the real world and heard someone say, "I'm picking up that Tha Realest album today"?
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100 percent false, though the results were disappointing to say the least.
438 hard copy
507 digital sales
1,278 single song downloads
This is only including major chains/Best Buy and iTunes. This is not yet including Amazon, Mom and Pop shops that put the album on special order, and website preorders. Those will all be factored in eventually, but none the less it was nothing to brag about.
The economy is in a rut right now, nobody buys cd's, this was an independent album release, and on top of that, many of the Best Buys got the album a week late. It's still not an excuse on our behalf.
We weren't expecting anything past a 1000 really for the first week, this is not something we're aiming to be a money making album, maybe just break even. Realest got involved in a real good situation going with Mike Lynn at the end of '08, but the RBC deal was already signed. This helps line us up for that second album. This is more like an album for execs and fans to introduce him musically to the industry, without a Death Row name tag attached. It was also his way of showing that he's got more to him as an artist than just someone with the "Pac stigma."
We've already got bigger situations in line for the second album lined up. The response for the album has been overwhelmingly positive, so we're gonna ride this out and try to have as many fans hear the project, whether they buy it or download it (hopefully they purchase it of course). We're hoping that the music will speak for itself.
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100 percent false, though the results were disappointing to say the least.
438 hard copy
507 digital sales
1,278 single song downloads
Damn, that sucks. Even though I hate your guts, that's bad on both ends for you guys. At least Realest puts content into his music unlike some other rappers. With the single song downloads put together as a 17 track album and divided it rounds to 75 album sales. The total is 1,020 CD sales is what it is equivalent too including digital sales and hard copy. Damn, that blows.
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Cant wait for the second album.......but im sure ill be bumpin Witness Tha Realest till that drops
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only 438 cd's? that really sucks...
the boxden info was posted last week.... 172 cds sold in the 1st week it said, its been out nearly 3 weeks and it sold 438? He has to retire.
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only 438 cd's? that really sucks...
the boxden info was posted last week.... 172 cds sold in the 1st week it said, its been out nearly 3 weeks and it sold 438? He has to retire.
retire? why? tha realest has a tight crib , is and always has pushed nice whips , and has traveled many a place and made good money . . all off of rap . he has done these things AND survived in the rap game [unlike a TON of some of you other guys' favorite rappers] for 10 PLUS YEARS WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL ALBUM . a GREAT album in the can and on store shelves and a NEW business relationship with mike lynn , and his 1st tours in the PUBLIC EYE [like his 1st coming next month with yukmouth , young buck , and bun b in florida] lead me to believe the future is as bright as its ever been for tha realest . look at the big picture people .
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for real, wait over a decade to drop and then you drop for real
the companies that invested in him, owe more than he made back lol
thats gotta make someone feel like killing themselves
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only 438 cd's? that really sucks...
the boxden info was posted last week.... 172 cds sold in the 1st week it said, its been out nearly 3 weeks and it sold 438? He has to retire.
Okay, all that info you just laid out is wrong. The CD just came out LAST week, as in July 14th. It's been out 11 days. How is that nearly 3 weeks? It's less than 2 weeks.
The numbers I gave you were copied and pasted directly from the SoundScan that was issued MONDAY, July 20th. So yes, those are his first week numbers, but like I said not everything was accounted for in that first week yet.
Nice try, hater.
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i mean im not surprised at all
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if thats tru thats fuckd up thats one of the best drop from this year
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This is bullshit, i dont believe it, 1000 albums sold lmao? Wtf?
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i wonder how many of those were his own purchases...
The first 100.
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sales is ass yea but shits bangin, that counts.
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Like effex said the promotion was ass.Not a single website mentioned the album coming out
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IMO but he didnt have it easy goin in anyway
some muffuccaz jus hate him cuz he acts/sounds pac
he lost sales there
i mean imagine a venue or concert by him, does it sell lol?
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The funniest part is I bet all 172 people who bought it are members of this board
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The funniest part is I bet all 172 people who bought it are members of this board
yep and mostly europeans at that
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100 percent false, though the results were disappointing to say the least.
438 hard copy
507 digital sales
1,278 single song downloads
Damn, that sucks. Even though I hate your guts, that's bad on both ends for you guys. At least Realest puts content into his music unlike some other rappers. With the single song downloads put together as a 17 track album and divided it rounds to 75 album sales. The total is 1,020 CD sales is what it is equivalent too including digital sales and hard copy. Damn, that blows.
While I'm a fan of Realest, I dont think he's ever going to escape the whole "2pac/Deathrow" stigma that comes up when you mention his name. His music has definitely evolved since then and you hear more mature content but even I, as a fan, can't let that go sometimes. It sucks cause he's definitely come a long way since then but you are always going to have people who will always say "fuck him" for biting Pac.
Also, imo, the promotion was horrible. I visit a few hiphop blogs every few days (NahRight, Hype Beast, 2dopeboyz) and I never saw Realest mentioned - and these are sites that usually post up new music/album info on the daily. Also aside from the internet, I didnt see any mentions of it anywhere. THENNNNNN the day of the release, the local Best Buy didnt recieve their shipment - and when they did, they only got in 3 copies. For Realest's sake, I hope Enigma is right in saying that this is just an album to introduce him to the record executives and fans that will lead to a second album.
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aite without sendin any hate but if this were true and other labels were to base their decisions off his "track record" would they sign him? lol
100 percent false, though the results were disappointing to say the least.
438 hard copy
507 digital sales
1,278 single song downloads
Damn, that sucks. Even though I hate your guts, that's bad on both ends for you guys. At least Realest puts content into his music unlike some other rappers. With the single song downloads put together as a 17 track album and divided it rounds to 75 album sales. The total is 1,020 CD sales is what it is equivalent too including digital sales and hard copy. Damn, that blows.
While I'm a fan of Realest, I dont think he's ever going to escape the whole "2pac/Deathrow" stigma that comes up when you mention his name. His music has definitely evolved since then and you hear more mature content but even I, as a fan, can't let that go sometimes. It sucks cause he's definitely come a long way since then but you are always going to have people who will always say "fuck him" for biting Pac.
Also, imo, the promotion was horrible. I visit a few hiphop blogs every few days (NahRight, Hype Beast, 2dopeboyz) and I never saw Realest mentioned - and these are sites that usually post up new music/album info on the daily. Also aside from the internet, I didnt see any mentions of it anywhere. THENNNNNN the day of the release, the local Best Buy didnt recieve their shipment - and when they did, they only got in 3 copies. For Realest's sake, I hope Enigma is right in saying that this is just an album to introduce him to the record executives and fans that will lead to a second album.
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aite without sendin any hate but if this were true and other labels were to base their decisions off his "track record" would they sign him? lol
I dont understand your question
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i mean im not surprised at all
yea..same here...faka ass 2pac
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aite so you said tha realest has a another album comin......?
if thats the case
im sayin what label will be willin to put it out if this album of his didnt do that well?
muffuccaz werent expectin it to sell millions, not even 1,000's but if it did do less than that, what label will sign him?
unless it was his current label he was signed to?
and was that deal solid if he were to sell copies off his first album?
aite without sendin any hate but if this were true and other labels were to base their decisions off his "track record" would they sign him? lol
I dont understand your question
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aite so you said tha realest has a another album comin......?
if thats the case
im sayin what label will be willin to put it out if this album of his didnt do that well?
muffuccaz werent expectin it to sell millions, not even 1,000's but if it did do less than that, what label will sign him?
unless it was his current label he was signed to?
and was that deal solid if he were to sell copies off his first album?
I'm not sure what his deal is with Team Dime/RBC but I think Enigma mentioned in an earlier post that he had another album coming out - I'm just going off what he said. If I'm wrong then my bad.
I see your point tho - low sales definitely would mean the chance of a second album coming would be almost non-existent but like I said, I dont know what his deal is.
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Damn. That's a shame if it's true. He deserved to do better than that. I feel a little better about not downloading his album now. I haven't purchased it yet, but I still plan on getting it soon.
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i downloaded the album just to check it out.. was surprised and this release will see my money next week!!
peace
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record labels would go by the quality of the album before anything else . tha realest is a very good artist with a GREAT album [the best ive heard from the westcoast in YEARS] , there are 50 reasons why the album hasnt sold well and none of them are because he isnt a dope rapper as a lot of haters on here would have you all believe . with this being a WESTCOAST rap forum i am more than surprised that SO MANY people on here hate on a artist for not selling all that well , i thought that not selling well was common for 99 percent of westcoast rappers . tha realest reps the west AND pac to the fullest , hating on your own is the reason the west is at the bottom of the totem pole as it is . i would understand a little better if he and his album were wack BUT ITS NOT , tha realest is dope and his album is AWESOME , but all i hear is that same ol shit about the pac stuff thats been BEATEN INTO THE GROUND by some of you guys FOREVER . we've all heard your complaints about this for a LIFETIME , OK WE GET IT . . . now GET OVER IT AND LET THE MUSIC SPEAK FOR ITSELF .
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100 percent false, though the results were disappointing to say the least.
438 hard copy
507 digital sales
1,278 single song downloads
This is only including major chains/Best Buy and iTunes. This is not yet including Amazon, Mom and Pop shops that put the album on special order, and website preorders. Those will all be factored in eventually, but none the less it was nothing to brag about.
The economy is in a rut right now, nobody buys cd's, this was an independent album release, and on top of that, many of the Best Buys got the album a week late. It's still not an excuse on our behalf.
We weren't expecting anything past a 1000 really for the first week, this is not something we're aiming to be a money making album, maybe just break even. Realest got involved in a real good situation going with Mike Lynn at the end of '08, but the RBC deal was already signed. This helps line us up for that second album. This is more like an album for execs and fans to introduce him musically to the industry, without a Death Row name tag attached. It was also his way of showing that he's got more to him as an artist than just someone with the "Pac stigma."
We've already got bigger situations in line for the second album lined up. The response for the album has been overwhelmingly positive, so we're gonna ride this out and try to have as many fans hear the project, whether they buy it or download it (hopefully they purchase it of course). We're hoping that the music will speak for itself.
You also got to remember, The entire 2pac biting controversy, it has infected the realest carrier from day 1. I'm not actually surprised. He had no hype, he pretty much fell off the face of the earth to a lot of fans after Death Row's Second Dynasty failed.Being a West Coast Artist already presents a problem, cause our music is being blacklisted do to our past controversy, the fact rarely any new signees are putting out albums. I'll be amazed of Witness The Realest goes gold.
Also the whole "Beat into hte ground 2pac thing" well, are we wrong? lol I mean its just been a huge part of his carrier, its literally what got people to notice him. If he doesn't sell enough he'd probably get dropped. well if I remember he is on his own label, so really if he doesn't sell he'll probably just develop a huge problem of find a new distributed label.
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goes gold?
wait a minute isnt gold movin 500,000 units?
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goes gold?
wait a minute isnt gold movin 500,000 units?
Yup. LOL.
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goes gold?
wait a minute isnt gold movin 500,000 units?
yeah
it seems like he sold maybe 2,233
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no hate but by the looks of it he isnt good 2 break wood in this lifetime of ours
and whats sad is that he might not be the best rapper alive, but damn you tellin me he sold roughly less than 14% of what k-fed sold?
goes gold?
wait a minute isnt gold movin 500,000 units?
Yup. LOL.
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no hate but by the looks of it he isnt good 2 break wood in this lifetime of ours
and whats sad is that he might not be the best rapper alive, but damn you tellin me he sold roughly less than 14% of what k-fed sold?
goes gold?
wait a minute isnt gold movin 500,000 units?
Yup. LOL.
pretty much. K-Fed had hype though. He promoted his album with TV gigs and shit. Realest, well he did a commercial thats on youtube... lol
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still tho, thats sad what tha realest has been workin on the last decade should have amped his sales and got muffuccaz buyin his album, seems like that didnt work
cuz these numbers are SAD
he needs to stay home lock tha door and never come out again lol
no hate but by the looks of it he isnt good 2 break wood in this lifetime of ours
and whats sad is that he might not be the best rapper alive, but damn you tellin me he sold roughly less than 14% of what k-fed sold?
goes gold?
wait a minute isnt gold movin 500,000 units?
Yup. LOL.
pretty much. K-Fed had hype though. He promoted his album with TV gigs and shit. Realest, well he did a commercial thats on youtube... lol
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At least the album is out though, he broke the "First Album Curse", now he can use this project to push his music.
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yeah but when you move or dont move numbers like this i mean isnt it better to not have dropped a album no matter how long the wait, this is really sad
hes been featured on many albums
At least the album is out though, he broke the "First Album Curse", now he can use this project to push his music.
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At least the album is out though, he broke the "First Album Curse", now he can use this project to push his music.
Yeah there are alot of rappers that are hyped right now that have NO albums out.
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to blasphemy :
no my friend im not saying you're wrong or right , all im saying is that we've heard that knock on tha realest OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN . we heard it then and we hear it now , NOW with that being said do we ever move on to THE MUSIC ? the album is DOPE , as fans of dope WESTCOAST music shouldnt that be the story for us at this point . lets let the needless hating go , the west needs all the love it can get and this album IS LOVELY .
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yeah but when you move or dont move numbers like this i mean isnt it better to not have dropped a album no matter how long the wait, this is really sad
hes been featured on many albums
At least the album is out though, he broke the "First Album Curse", now he can use this project to push his music.
In Tha Realest defense, alot of these songs are mad dated, so from that standpoint, if he feels they are still popping, put them out on a album and get it out there? I am sure if Crooked I could get his hands on his old Death Row album and find a distributor, he would drop it too along with many other rappers. Now that he has this one out the way, it will be interesting to see how long before he drops some fresh, new material.
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Crooked is releasing his death row albums through wideawake the company that bought death row
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Crooked is releasing his death row albums through wideawake the company that bought death row
Oh ok that is good to hear. Did not know if he was able to get his masters back or not.
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Well he didn't get them back but their going to work with him to release the album
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Appreciative of the positive feedback on this project.
I've got some rebuttals to people: this album was promoted on the internet. It was featured on over 100 websites, it just may have not been on every site. But if you want, I can pull up plenty and plenty of sites that picked up the story of his album release. Granted a lot of these websites were small sites, but even big sites like HipHopDX, WorldWideConnected, DJ Clue's site, and others picked up on the story of the release, and had "Get It N" featured on their sites.
The answer is: this is a small independent label that leaves the funding up to the artist. Thousands of dollars were poured into this project over the years, and with different situations in the past that he had it coulda blown up more. He even had a $250,000 video filmed for this in 2007.
But due to bad luck, terrible circumstances, he was left with an album recorded, guest and producer fees to pay all on his own. He couldn't just sit on the project, it had to come out. Therefore, promotion budget was very minimal, and the promotion we did get was all out of love.
I can confirm Realest did numerous interviews over the weekend, so you should be seeing some more shit over the next few days.
And if you haven't, go pick up the album, I promise it's got somethin everyone will like.
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i do remember some big name sites such as hiphopdx had the press release info fo this album a month ago... what would also help out is to get some of these songs on hiphopdx or allhiphop's audio sections so fans n haters can hear it and judge it. songs with fat joe(yes him..) and especially crooked i should be in those audio sections to help get attention since they have big names... and this thing about the "mysterious producer" who produced "y i keep my burna on me" that type of controversey would get more ppll curious to check the album out...... and myb buy or dl the album.... this album shouldnt be slept on and should sell wayyy more than that..... and yes, i was a big realest hater back in the days also, but i moved on and learn to accept good music these days...
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I'm a big fan of Tha Realest and I will be picking up the album next week to support him (if I can't find it at Best Buy, I'll get it from amazon). Had this come out on Death Row in 2000, I think it would have done 400,000 maybe even gold over time. But I just want to say to all the people who are laughing at him we're really just laughing at ourselves, our music, and our movement. Even though Tha Realest has the "pac biter" attached to his persona, I really feel that these sales numbers show that Westcoast rap may be on life support. If I was WideAwake and I just bought that Death Row catalog for over $20 mill, I would be scared right now. The numbers may not be this low, but they could be in the same ballpark if they are planning on releasing old Crooked I, Dogg Pound, and even remakes of Dre and Snoop who possibly lost their appeal due to low recognition and an aging fanbase. The real A&R's watch everything on the Hip Hop market, and this is a bad temperature for westcoast rap and gangsta rap in general. Couple these numbers with artists who are legends like Quik and Kurupt putting up around 12,000 (this is not far from Realest's numbers with way more established artists and better promotion). This is why Detox keeps getting pushed back. Our whole movement could be nearly dead and the only response people are giving is laughing at a person who put his heart into his effort and flopped.
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^^^trill talk homie... this is the best 15 bucks i've spent on a cd so far this summer. i might buy a couple more and hand it out to friends for the helluvit.... comons team dime/realest etc... u gotta step ur internet promo game up. im sure yall could've sold more like around 4-8k first week with decent internet promos....interviews...music audio....youtube videos... keep it low budget and use this indie game to your advantage in this internet age.... if it werent for the forums on dubcnn i wouldve never known this album wouldve dropped....
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but how are "we" to blame jus cuz we speakin on the issue at hand?
or why should we be mad or scared, or worried etc...
him not doin good numbers is jus as much as a problem as wayne puttin out too much wack muzik
its the rap game as a whole, and btw mack 10 co-signs what wayne is doin
its muzik as a whole, and not everyone is sayin what realest released was wack
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but how are "we" to blame jus cuz we speakin on the issue at hand?
or why should we be mad or scared, or worried etc...
him not doin good numbers is jus as much as a problem as wayne puttin out too much wack muzik
its the rap game as a whole, and btw mack 10 co-signs what wayne is doin
its muzik as a whole, and not everyone is sayin what realest released was wack
It's closing doors for the West Coast. When record company executives see our artists putting up numbers like that they will be scared to take a chance on any up-and-coming artist. The fact that the content was legit even makes it a a worse situation because we can't dismiss it as wack music. Now, look to Quik & Kurupt putting up 12k. Even these OGs who are house names can't put up numbers anymore. Snoop's last album was his worse in sales. The numbers are drying up by the month and I think now it's fair to say we've crossed the point where it doesn't matter how much you put behind your video, your promotion, etc., it's difficult for any artist repping West Coast rap to go gold which in turn means record companies would rather take a chance on a non-westcoast act to put up higher numbers. This means that it's going to get even more difficult for a Jay Rock, Nipsy Hustle, Bishop Lamont, Eastwood, Mykestro, etc. to get a legit look If you were an executive,would you take a chance on Westcoast act if guys like Quik & Kurupt were puttin up numbers like 12k and acts like Roscoe and Tha Realest flop?? And if you just bought that Death Row catalog, would you be alittle scared after seeing those numbers and thinking about dropping old Death Row material (which a lot has been leaked to the net btw)? If our artists can't get albums out in the future have we lost our voice and our ability to express our viewpoints and knowledge through our music on what we know as West Coast Rap?
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i mean i feel what your sayin but it also doesnt make sense in a way that the numbers he did or they did isnt exactly bad alltogether
aite kurupt and dj quik did bad number
aite snoop did bad numbers
aite tha realest bad numbers
aite these artists did low numbers so did other artists wit dope albums, does that mean their wack not exactly
the kurupt cd some thought was wack
IMO if that album was better it would have moved triple if not more
snoop the same, snoop isnt makin bangin muzik anymore
tha realest is a exception, IMO he has jus been struck wit the issue of soundin like someone else who was better than him and by the looks of it, wont sell or move units
the units that hes moved previously....well he was on yuks album so due to him bein on yuks album he sold in-a sense thanx to yuk and that was when yuk was sellin, but the game has changed
tha realest isnt a commercial artist no matter who or which commercial rapper he gets on his album
thats why some werent feelin him gettin wack ray j on there, but then at the same time some werent feelin him at all
but how are "we" to blame jus cuz we speakin on the issue at hand?
or why should we be mad or scared, or worried etc...
him not doin good numbers is jus as much as a problem as wayne puttin out too much wack muzik
its the rap game as a whole, and btw mack 10 co-signs what wayne is doin
its muzik as a whole, and not everyone is sayin what realest released was wack
It's closing doors for the West Coast. When record company executives see our artists putting up numbers like that they will be scared to take a chance on any up-and-coming artist. The fact that the content was legit even makes it a a worse situation because we can't dismiss it as wack music. Now, look to Quik & Kurupt putting up 12k. Even these OGs who are house names can't put up numbers anymore. Snoop's last album was his worse in sales. The numbers are drying up by the month and I think now it's fair to say we've crossed the point where it doesn't matter how much you put behind your video, your promotion, etc., it's difficult for any artist repping West Coast rap to go gold which in turn means record companies would rather take a chance on a non-westcoast act to put up higher numbers. This means that it's going to get even more difficult for a Jay Rock, Nipsy Hustle, Bishop Lamont, Eastwood, Mykestro, etc. to get a legit look If you were an executive,would you take a chance on Westcoast act if guys like Quik & Kurupt were puttin up numbers like 12k and acts like Roscoe and Tha Realest flop?? And if you just bought that Death Row catalog, would you be alittle scared after seeing those numbers and thinking about dropping old Death Row material (which a lot has been leaked to the net btw)? If our artists can't get albums out in the future have we lost our voice and our ability to express our viewpoints and knowledge through our music on what we know as West Coast Rap?
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LOL no shit.I could release an album tommorow and sell more then that
i'd cop it if you had a guest appearance by Crooked 8)
he could get that crook/royce combo for $2500 spit the verse of his life and make a single out of it
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only 438 cd's? that really sucks...
the boxden info was posted last week.... 172 cds sold in the 1st week it said, its been out nearly 3 weeks and it sold 438? He has to retire.
retire? why? tha realest has a tight crib , is and always has pushed nice whips , and has traveled many a place and made good money . . all off of rap . he has done these things AND survived in the rap game [unlike a TON of some of you other guys' favorite rappers] for 10 PLUS YEARS WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL ALBUM . a GREAT album in the can and on store shelves and a NEW business relationship with mike lynn , and his 1st tours in the PUBLIC EYE [like his 1st coming next month with yukmouth , young buck , and bun b in florida] lead me to believe the future is as bright as its ever been for tha realest . look at the big picture people .
shit if that's surviving in the rap game.....fuck it I'm coming out with an album
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to blasphemy :
no my friend im not saying you're wrong or right , all im saying is that we've heard that knock on tha realest OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN . we heard it then and we hear it now , NOW with that being said do we ever move on to THE MUSIC ? the album is DOPE , as fans of dope WESTCOAST music shouldnt that be the story for us at this point . lets let the needless hating go , the west needs all the love it can get and this album IS LOVELY .
First the above conversation then the qoute: West Coast rap has already fallen hard, but you honestly can't compare The Realest to any of them. Not hating, look at his situation, the hugest promotional he had during his 10 something years was becoming part of Death Row's Second Dynasty. Unfortunately suge, was signing people who's style is smiler to the originals.
He became known as the 2pac biter since inception. While Crooked I consistently dropped mixtape, and Audio Week and did various promotional stuff to stay notice, all the realest did was work on his album, which strangely looks like it didn't change since its Original incarnation.If The Realest had done more to keep his hype his sells would be higher.He did a TV commercial, which is on youtube. Even now he still sounds like 2pac (his style has evolved since the death row days) which is already going to invoke the average listener not to buy do 2 respect 2 2pac and hate for biters.
Detox well, I wouldn't be surprised if it flopped, with guess like Lil Wayne, T.I., and R Kelly. The entire album sounds like its going to be a huge commercialized piece.
West Rap is on the decline, look what's happening. Old artist are selling out or being hypocrites, old groups break up with nearly all the members retiring, new signees never drop a album sadly it seems at the behest of the OGs labels they signed too. In the end its basically our current older crop preventing and killing off the newer one. people don't capitalize off controversy, the hype or anything that can give them that extra push, and boom they get stuck in the underground for years (hell I'm still amazed realest got his shit released).
Ok, now for the qoute.
and your going to keep hearing it until either he changes the style or he changes his voice. Personally I see realest as a 2pac biter, but I also see him as a legitimate artist struggling cause he was only signed do 2 the 2pac similarities. I don't got hate, let the boy do his thing, but when the thing isn't original it presents a problem.
Now when people look past the biting they say he is a dope artist, but a counter for that is he only sounds dope cause he is replicating a style.Either way The Realest will always get flak for his past actions, past controversy and his 2pacish demeanor. The style, the laugh, the mannerism, the way he talks like 2pac, he takes the fall. On his voice/looks. He can't help that..
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only 438 cd's? that really sucks...
the boxden info was posted last week.... 172 cds sold in the 1st week it said, its been out nearly 3 weeks and it sold 438? He has to retire.
retire? why? tha realest has a tight crib , is and always has pushed nice whips , and has traveled many a place and made good money . . all off of rap . he has done these things AND survived in the rap game [unlike a TON of some of you other guys' favorite rappers] for 10 PLUS YEARS WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL ALBUM . a GREAT album in the can and on store shelves and a NEW business relationship with mike lynn , and his 1st tours in the PUBLIC EYE [like his 1st coming next month with yukmouth , young buck , and bun b in florida] lead me to believe the future is as bright as its ever been for tha realest . look at the big picture people .
shit if that's surviving in the rap game.....fuck it I'm coming out with an album
ummm yes , please explain to me how that isnt surviving in the rap game
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This Album Is A Classic From The First Tracc 2 The Last.. Nough Said!
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Sales don't prove SHIT these days - The album is great and I recommend everyone that likes West Coast music to buy it.
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only 438 cd's? that really sucks...
the boxden info was posted last week.... 172 cds sold in the 1st week it said, its been out nearly 3 weeks and it sold 438? He has to retire.
retire? why? tha realest has a tight crib , is and always has pushed nice whips , and has traveled many a place and made good money . . all off of rap . he has done these things AND survived in the rap game [unlike a TON of some of you other guys' favorite rappers] for 10 PLUS YEARS WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL ALBUM . a GREAT album in the can and on store shelves and a NEW business relationship with mike lynn , and his 1st tours in the PUBLIC EYE [like his 1st coming next month with yukmouth , young buck , and bun b in florida] lead me to believe the future is as bright as its ever been for tha realest . look at the big picture people .
shit if that's surviving in the rap game.....fuck it I'm coming out with an album
ummm yes , please explain to me how that isnt surviving in the rap game
Well lets see, no album his whole career, it finally comes out to almost no sales, and almost no one knows of him apart from the people on this board.
I'm not hating on the guy or his album. I'm just saying that if this is called surviving in the rap game, what the fuck does it take to not survive?