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Title: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Giesuz on September 11, 2009, 11:30:07 AM
i wonder if the re-lit was a success in the first week....
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: cheesefry on September 11, 2009, 12:09:12 PM
HITS & SoundScan Top Albums (August 31-September 7, 2009)

LW TW artist / album label power index
2 1 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 27,130
NUMBER ONES
-- 2 COLBIE CAILLAT UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 26,088
BREAKTHROUGH
3 3 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 22,994
TWANG
1 4 REBA MCENTIRE VALORY 19,917
KEEP ON LOVING YOU
-- 5 NOW COUNTRY 2 SONY MUSIC 18,808
VARIOUS ARTISTS
7 6 HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE WALT DISNEY 18,280
SOUNDTRACK
5 7 KINGS OF LEON RCA/RMG 15,930
ONLY BY THE NIGHT
10 8 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 15,848
FEARLESS
15 9 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 15,683
FOUNDATION
9 10 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 15,309
ESSENTIAL
19 11 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 15,186
WIDE OPEN
12 12 NOW 31 SONY MUSIC 14,536
VARIOUS ARTISTS
11 13 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA/RMG 12,624
LEAVE THIS TOWN
-- 14 LETOYA CAPITOL 12,261
LADY LOVE
13 15 MAXWELL COLUMBIA 11,323
BLACKSUMMERS'NIGHT
6 16 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 10,788
E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES)
21 17 DARIUS RUCKER CAPITOL NASHVILLE 9,726
LEARN TO LIVE
25 18 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 8,656
DARK HORSE
26 19 JUSTIN MOORE VALORY 8,236
JUSTIN MOORE
-- 20 JET REAL HORRORSHOW 8,208
SHAKA ROCK
35 21 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE 8,178
LADY ANTEBELLUM
8 22 NEIL DIAMOND COLUMBIA 7,960
HOT AUGUST NIGHT/NYC
-- 23 QUEEN LATIFAH VERVE 7,919
PERSONA
20 24 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 7,877
FAME
18 25 HANNAH MONTANA 3 WALT DISNEY 7,773
SOUNDTRACK
-- 26 COLLECTIVE SOUL ROADRUNNER 7,011
COLLECTIVE SOUL
-- 27 SKILLET ATLANTIC 6,902
AWAKE
16 28 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 6,654
THRILLER
30 29 SHINEDOWN ATLANTIC 6,481
SOUND OF MADNESS
36 30 KEITH URBAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 5,960
DEFYING GRAVITY
-- 31 ARCTIC MONKEYS DOMINO 5,610
HUMBUG
29 32 GLORIANA ATLANTIC 5,211
GLORIANA
41 33 KENNY CHESNEY BNA/RCA NASHVILLE 5,161
GREATEST HITS II
-- 34 LOVE & THEFT HOLLYWOOD 5,111
WORLD WIDE OPEN
49 35 BILLY CURRINGTON MERCURY NASHVILLE 5,072
LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING
38 36 BRAD PAISLEY ARISTA NASHVILLE 4,966
AMERICAN SATURDAY NIGHT
27 37 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 4,930
RELAPSE
31 38 WIZARDS OF WAVERLY PLACE WALT DISNEY 4,923
SOUNDTRACK
37 39 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 4,812
BAD
44 40 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 4,669
DANGEROUS
28 41 DEMI LOVATO HOLLYWOOD 4,616
HERE WE GO AGAIN
-- 42 DAVID GUETTA ASTRALWERKS 4,524
ONE LOVE
-- 43 K'JON UP&UP/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 4,442
I GET AROUND
-- 44 MATISYAHU EPIC 4,111
LIGHT
33 45 KIDZ BOP KIDS RAZOR & TIE 4,002
KIDZ BOP 16
46 46 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 3,837
OFF THE WALL
-- 47 THEORY OF A DEADMAN ROADRUNNER 3,823
SCARS & SOUVENIRS
17 48 LEDISI VERVE 3,599
TURN ME LOOSE
-- 49 JACK INGRAM BIG MACHINE 3,593
BIG DREAMS & HIGH HOPES
14 50 SEAN PAUL ATLANTIC 3,468
IMPERIAL BLAZE

lol daz was right.  it didn't even move 3,000 copies.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: G-Funk on September 11, 2009, 12:27:52 PM
well, goddamn.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: MarshColin on September 11, 2009, 12:38:01 PM
This is one of those releases that will bring in consistent sales, unlike if an artist drops an album and they do super good the first month or so and then sales fall big time. If I were an average joe and a year from now I saw this on the shelf for the first time and I also saw Daz's So So Gangsta on the shelf it would be way more likely for me to pick up Re-Lit because it's a timeless release with added material while an album from 2-3 years ago has lost its appeal. I'm just using So So Gangsta as an example, not a diss to it.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on September 11, 2009, 12:39:35 PM
dayumn not even 3k...lara levy is gonna file for bankrupcy
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: acgrundy on September 11, 2009, 12:45:20 PM
I stated before that I think she and people on this forum had way too high of expectations.  Besides the internet rap sites, this album has ZERO promotion.  What do you expect.  And everybody on these internet sites already own a copy of the chronic.  and its a very bad recession.  I expected more than 3000, but still I knew it wouldn't do well.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: SoilSavy707 on September 11, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
I too would have thought more than 3k, but I also dont think this release will have huge success as time goes on. Sure, it is a classic rap album, but how many people give a shit about that? Obviously, not many. The flame from re-lit blew out . If it were a straight release with just unreleased material, I could see it doing better, which might be the case for the Snoop Dogg cd coming out soon.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: cheesefry on September 11, 2009, 01:19:45 PM
I too would have thought more than 3k, but I also dont think this release will have huge success as time goes on. Sure, it is a classic rap album, but how many people give a shit about that? Obviously, not many. The flame from re-lit blew out . If it were a straight release with just unreleased material, I could see it doing better, which might be the case for the Snoop Dogg cd coming out soon.
if the bonus material had anything to do with the chronic we'd be talking different numbers.  this shit just seemed like such a random after thought.  maybe instead of just her web design she should have found people who knew the history and could have helped make a better product!  shit, little things like adding 187 after lil ghetto boy as it was originally sequenced, add the single versions on a bonus disc, etc.  even with the whole no dre vocals thing she could have put chronic-related music on there instead of random stuff from 5 years later.

if lara took out a $10 million loan to acquire this material (i'm being generous here too) then she needs a few hit records and not just sleepers that will net her $5,000 a month.  then again am7 already took most of her heat away by releasing albums of material before she even came onto the scene.  so where we are at is that she needs the snoop project to fly off the shelves but the mostly crappy tracklisting, horrible cover, and the fact that snoop is still rapping all shaopes up to hurt her success. 

and she thought she'd buy death row and become rich overnight lol.  those cock riders on the internet make up like 0.00000000000000000000000000000001% of the global market.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: jory on September 11, 2009, 01:21:39 PM
what was the promotion like in the US? adds on tv or radio? or in magazines? or was it internet only?
hopefully the will advertise the snoop cd alot better.
does soundscann include internet sales (itunes, amazon etc?)
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: MediumL on September 11, 2009, 01:33:23 PM
if sales continue like this we could see some remix albums  :P But on the real. None of the new tracks had Dre vocals (which was a downer) and a lot of the artists hold no weight to most fans (come on, how many have heard of CPO?). I wasn't up for paying £17 for a couple videos and songs by artists who I don't check.

The Snoop Dogg lost sessions are another question though  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: hobomotel on September 11, 2009, 01:35:38 PM
if sales continue like this we could see some remix albums  :P But on the real. None of the new tracks had Dre vocals (which was a downer) and a lot of the artists hold no weight to most fans (come on, how many have heard of CPO?). I wasn't up for paying £17 for a couple videos and songs by artists who I don't check.

The Snoop Dogg lost sessions are another question though  ;)

I paid £9
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: woof on September 11, 2009, 01:39:13 PM
what was the promotion like in the US? adds on tv or radio? or in magazines? or was it internet only?
hopefully the will advertise the snoop cd alot better.
does soundscann include internet sales (itunes, amazon etc?)

its koch what do u think. there is NO promotion only on websites and blogs.

Daz is right they fucked up. how can u press only 35 000 units for snoop album and don't promote it?? allhiphop.com is not promotion

i guess international sales will be better when distribution deal will be settled
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 11, 2009, 01:45:51 PM
how are making any money of this shit selling less then 3g
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: cheesefry on September 11, 2009, 01:49:06 PM
how are making any money of this shit selling less then 3g
assassin's bullshit mixtapes run laps around this release lol
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Dre-Day on September 11, 2009, 01:52:06 PM
what was the promotion like in the US? adds on tv or radio? or in magazines? or was it internet only?
hopefully the will advertise the snoop cd alot better.
does soundscann include internet sales (itunes, amazon etc?)

its koch what do u think. there is NO promotion only on websites and blogs.

Daz is right they fucked up. how can u press only 35 000 units for snoop album and don't promote it?? allhiphop.com is not promotion

i guess international sales will be better when distribution deal will be settled
the fact that there was no worldwide distribution at the time of the release definitely didn't help
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Suga Foot on September 11, 2009, 02:03:14 PM
imo it was a horrible idea to start off with Death Row's flagship release.  They should have just left it alone, started off with something else.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Blasphemy on September 11, 2009, 02:42:12 PM
Why are people surprised? The album had no promotion, they didn't even put the videos back on the air to help it sell. None of the artist endorsed it, Everyone has The Chronic already and no one is going to rebuy a entire album just for 7 tracks which mind you already leaked and a DVD of videos ALREADY AVAILABLE ON THE NET. They fucked it up even worse with The Clean version. Inlcluding such a Bomb track "smoke on" on a shitty clean. God damn, would of been much better on the Uncensored.

That's also were they went wrong....even pressing a censored. No one buys 1, What moron would buy a clean version of a album called "The Chronic" Obviously it fucks up a lot tracks into a unbearable shit fest.


IMO not surprised, but I think The next release is going to sell way better cause None of the tracks on the snoop album have leaked. lol well except Doggystyle (LOL I swear, he picked the right time xD)
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 11, 2009, 03:38:59 PM
Do we have official sales numbers or are we just basing it off the fact that it didn't make a certain list? Would a re-issued album even go there anyway?

shit, little things like adding 187 after lil ghetto boy as it was originally sequenced.
  No. No need to change the track listing.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: ironmike on September 11, 2009, 03:48:59 PM
the chronic has been re-released so many times and been on the market for 17 years.
everybody who wanted the album wouldve bought it by now, so i dont think there's much interest in people buying albums that we already have.

wideawake will make their money from putting out albums of only unreleased tracks from snoop, and releasing 2pac albums with only the unreleased original tracks.
unreleased music also from the dogg pound & lbc crew can have good sales for independant standards, by both selling over 100k.
for the lbc crew album, they should put "snoop doggy dogg presents" on it, to help it sell more.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: JohnnyL on September 11, 2009, 03:52:02 PM
 Well...I'm sorry to hear it sold poorly, but here's a few reasons why, imo...

1. No unreleased Dr. Dre tracks - I know this one isn't Wideawake's fault, but I think it really killed a lot of interest in this release.

2. Not enough promotion -  I think this also wasn't completely Wideawake's fault.  Their internet campaign for it was pretty good.  But without really having Dre to help promote it, this was bound to happen.  Most of the people I told about this release weren't even aware of it's existence before I said something to them about it.

3. Odd Track Selections For Bonus Content - Don't get me wrong, some of the bonus tracks on here were fantastic, but some of them seemed out of place for being bonus content for The Chronic.  Also, the track "Smoke On" which was one of the best bonus tracks was only available on the Wal-Mart version.  I think this was a miscalculation on Wideawake's part.
 
4. Poor Remastering of the Bonus Content - I personally don't have an opinion on this, but a lot of people have said the remastering of the bonus material was not good, to say the least.

That being said, there were also a lot of good things about this set.  Wideawake/Death Row is for all intents and purposes, a new company and they're still trying to work all of the bugs out of the system.  I fully expect them to make some mistakes starting out.  I still believe though that they're trying to deliver what the fans want.  And while this release may not have sold well initially, it's still The Chronic so I fully expect to continue to sell as people who are looking to replace their old copies will most likely buy this version, now.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 11, 2009, 03:56:34 PM
It still seems odd that they wouldn't crack 3K. They were featured in all the new release ads and end caps for the week and there was a little bit of promotion. We'll see what happens though.
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Post by: 3331 on September 11, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
people on here are acting like the general public looked into the release and saw that it wasn't satisfactory but if it were done better people would care. only a niche of g-funk nerds are going to give two shits about a reremastered album and some completely random bonus tracks. this was a release destined to fail. i really don't think anything they're going to release is going to do that well. the general public like snoop but they want his new single not some ancient ass album.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Blasphemy on September 11, 2009, 04:39:42 PM
people on here are acting like the general public looked into the release and saw that it wasn't satisfactory but if it were done better people would care. only a niche of g-funk nerds are going to give two shits about a reremastered album and some completely random bonus tracks. this was a release destined to fail. i really don't think anything they're going to release is going to do that well. the general public like snoop but they want his new single not some ancient ass album.

This also, Unless you're a Hardcore fan, You won't be rebuying a album you have. I own The Chronic Remastered, but I don't have any plans to rebuy it. I mean I already got the music videos, Idc what Quincy Jones has 2 say about dre (besides it was already posted).I refuse 2 pay for all that content when all I really give a shit about is the tracks. well I got em (Itunes ftw), plus I got the Bonus off The clean. Honestly I doubt the album its self will be sellin well on a hardcopy. I think most of hte sells will be via Itunes, and I only think the 7 tracks will be purchased and the clean track Smoke On, will probably be illegally DLed by Everyone cause no one is going to buy a clean version for 1 track.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: love33 on September 11, 2009, 07:41:14 PM
I like Wideawake and what they're doing coming to the table and trying to get us hardcore fans the music. However, I said when Tha Realest album "Witness Tha Realest," was a good album and only moved 130 copies for a West Coast artist that's sad, but even moreso, I would be worried about my investment if I was WideAwake.  This is why this is significant for WideAwake.

1 - Dead Man Walkin sold 230,000 copies and the Snoop Vault album is a similar effort. DMW was released in 2001, before downloading was huge, and the economy wasn't in a deep recession and downloading was not at an alltime high.  Also the record took some sales off the hype of Snoop's "The Last Meal" which generated some sales.

2 - Nobody hardly even knows about this release. They need to get some commercials on VH1 and promos out.

3 - Snoop was a bigger force in Hip Hop in 2001 than he was now, and new fans aren't looking for him at all these days.  He's now more of just a regional west coast artist.

4 - The market is oversaturated with music, specifically "Snoop Dogg" music. When fans aren't spending their time listening to the thousands of Hip Hop records out today, if they do choose to spend some energy on Snoop there's already enough material there to give someone their fix.

5 - If Tha Realest sells 130 copies, then who is going to buy old OFTB, Crooked I, Tha Realest, Mac Shawn, CPO, Hammer,  Daz, Lady of Rage, etc. albums? I know all of us want them on the net here but the people in general have little interest or education as to why the tracks are so timely and precious (many people don't realize how long hardcore fans waited for these and they don't care)

My prediction: 20,000 copies
If this release busts, why would this company continue to release albums and take a loss?  They aren't even making enough money to pay back the printing machines on Chronic Re-Lit.  They should just put the whole catalog online for digital 99 cent downloads if this release flops.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: JohnnyL on September 11, 2009, 07:47:42 PM
people on here are acting like the general public looked into the release and saw that it wasn't satisfactory but if it were done better people would care. only a niche of g-funk nerds are going to give two shits about a reremastered album and some completely random bonus tracks. this was a release destined to fail. i really don't think anything they're going to release is going to do that well. the general public like snoop but they want his new single not some ancient ass album.

Quality of the product will always affect sales to some degree.  But I agree with your general statement that none of these releases will probably do big numbers.  I don't think the general public didn't buy it because they found it unsatisfactory.  I think that overall, the general public didn't even know this release existed (and probably still doesn't).
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: ttpac on September 11, 2009, 08:01:37 PM
people on here are acting like the general public looked into the release and saw that it wasn't satisfactory but if it were done better people would care. only a niche of g-funk nerds are going to give two shits about a reremastered album and some completely random bonus tracks. this was a release destined to fail. i really don't think anything they're going to release is going to do that well. the general public like snoop but they want his new single not some ancient ass album.

Quality of the product will always affect sales to some degree.  But I agree with your general statement that none of these releases will probably do big numbers.  I don't think the general public didn't buy it because they found it unsatisfactory.  I think that overall, the general public didn't even know this release existed (and probably still doesn't).

You're right as lack of promotion is a recipe for poor sales!
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 11, 2009, 08:07:07 PM
My prediction: 20,000 copies
If this release busts, why would this company continue to release albums and take a loss?  They aren't even making enough money to pay back the printing machines on Chronic Re-Lit.  They should just put the whole catalog online for digital 99 cent downloads if this release flops.
But how is 20,000 copies a bust? I doubt they're spending millions of dollars to master and press these things. This isn't like an active record label where they have to recoup artist expenses, music videos, concerts, and promotional appearances. As I said previously, they'd probably be losing more money by not captalizing on their inventory. They're gonna be perfectly alright regardless. They own the entire Death Row catalog! That means that any time that music from The Chronic, Doggystyle, All Eyez On Me, etc. is played on the radio, used in a movie, sampled by an artist, they will get paid. Even if the entire CD-buying community dissapears, the music itself will still be valuable. Look at it like this. The offices of Ruthless Records are still open and when was the last time they put out anything but Eazy or Bone Thugs vault material or repackaged catalog music?
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Post by: BIGWORM on September 11, 2009, 11:17:43 PM
if it was a dual disc i would have copped it but fuck they didn't offer enough to get my hard earned money.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: love33 on September 12, 2009, 12:45:18 AM
My prediction: 20,000 copies
If this release busts, why would this company continue to release albums and take a loss?  They aren't even making enough money to pay back the printing machines on Chronic Re-Lit.  They should just put the whole catalog online for digital 99 cent downloads if this release flops.
But how is 20,000 copies a bust? I doubt they're spending millions of dollars to master and press these things. This isn't like an active record label where they have to recoup artist expenses, music videos, concerts, and promotional appearances. As I said previously, they'd probably be losing more money by not captalizing on their inventory. They're gonna be perfectly alright regardless. They own the entire Death Row catalog! That means that any time that music from The Chronic, Doggystyle, All Eyez On Me, etc. is played on the radio, used in a movie, sampled by an artist, they will get paid. Even if the entire CD-buying community dissapears, the music itself will still be valuable. Look at it like this. The offices of Ruthless Records are still open and when was the last time they put out anything but Eazy or Bone Thugs vault material or repackaged catalog music?

First off, they don't get paid by the radio stations to play old Death Row singles, when the radio plays the single, it benefits the record label so they send them singles and hope the radio will play it.  Next, they paid $18 million for this catalog.  So if they sell 20,000 of one of the top releases, the upcoming Snoop Vault album, that would mean 20k x 5 is $100,000.  Okay, now she said she is gonna pay artists.  Okay, so lets say Snoop gets $1 out of the $5 they make.  So she is left with 80k.  Now, is she going to pay guest artists too?  How about producers credited for the tracks?  If she decides she wants to play good politics and pay all them, then take more out of that 80k.  Lets just give her the benefit of the doubt and say she gets $80k profit off this release.  She is in debt $18 million for buying the catalog.  That 80k doesn’t even put a dent into what she paid to buy this catalog.

Now, Chronic Re-Lit and Snoop Vault if they both flop, you are left with a lot of material, but nothing that is going to grab people and sell.  Do you think a K9 album, Ray J, OFTB, old Crooked I, old Tha Realest albums, old Dogg Pound, Chocolate Bandit, Danny Boy, Mac Shawn, Top Dogg, Hammer, The Relativez, etc. is really going to do any better than Chronic or Snoop releases?  By the sales numbers, new fans do not care about “The Chronic” (I hate to say it) and old Death Row material.  At that profit pace, it’s going to take 225 releases to break even on the $18 million, and that’s ONLY if they all do 20,000 sales (Chronic Re-Lit did only 3000 units).  Now we see why she’s gotta reach out to these artist like Crooked I to promote their albums so it gives it more selling power in a market that has no demand for west coast rap.

I'm happy she's trying to package and release this stuff the right way, but this is a HUGE risk on her part and she could end up losing millions the way this thing is looking in the early stages -- especially if she is blocked by Dre releasing his material, Amaru takes half the profit on the Tupac material or they have creative differences and nothing gets released, and she wants to play nice and pay all these artists and producers money when she legally doesnt have to since she owns it outright.  This  is going to be a tough uphill climb in this digital era with all these music options for consumers and with this recession trying to push old death row tapes from the 90's.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: ruthless95rip on September 12, 2009, 12:48:42 AM
Dr Dre need's to die so he can top MJ
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: RugeSeven on September 12, 2009, 12:51:53 AM
Dr Dre need's to die so he can top MJ

On point lol!

Anyways, it would be interesting to compare Re-Lit's sales vs say.. "2Pac: Nu Mixx Klassics" which got bashed heavily.
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Post by: Dre-Day on September 12, 2009, 12:55:42 AM
imo it was a horrible idea to start off with Death Row's flagship release.  They should have just left it alone, started off with something else.
but there isn't much left.
they have Snoop Dogg & 2pac, but it's not like they'll go diamond with it
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: RugeSeven on September 12, 2009, 01:07:11 AM
imo it was a horrible idea to start off with Death Row's flagship release.  They should have just left it alone, started off with something else.
but there isn't much left.
they have Snoop Dogg & 2pac, but it's not like they'll go diamond with it

Yeah its a tough situation, especially if you got no artists or videos to backup your releases. I mean, how are the general public gonna get into Death Row 1999-2004 releases if they have no idea who the artists really are (I mean, the non-diehardss who still buy hip hop records). This project was kinda fail to begin with... as mentioned earlier, what would compel someone to buy a re-released version of the Chronic if most fans own it. I believe new fans would rather purchase the OG version (if possible) or even the Death Row UK remastered versions with the OG graphics.

Even while owning material that could sell (Snoop leftovers, and the whole Death Row camp in the 90s), you deserve to fail if you can't market such hot material right.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: love33 on September 12, 2009, 01:20:32 AM
imo it was a horrible idea to start off with Death Row's flagship release.  They should have just left it alone, started off with something else.
but there isn't much left.
they have Snoop Dogg & 2pac, but it's not like they'll go diamond with it

I agree, also add N.I.N.A. to that but the longer they don't release the material the more it loses value.  Looking back, Suge didn't do such a bad job when he sold 300k with Dogg Pound "2002" and 200k with Too Gangsta For Radio.  This is why Dre didn't buy the material when he could have.  Dre knows his legacy is cemented with that album whether or not he goes to the grave with the publishing rights.  He also knows it already ran its course and no magic touch is gonna make 'The Chronic' sell another million albums, especially when most can just download "Nuthin But a G Thang" and "Dre Day."
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Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on September 12, 2009, 02:14:55 AM
Hahaha that's what you get when getting involved in something you shouldn't Lara!
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Post by: MIC on September 12, 2009, 02:33:08 AM
Hahaha that's what you get when getting involved in something you shouldn't Lara!

You go bankrupt like Suge?
 :D
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Post by: Dre-Day on September 12, 2009, 03:57:15 AM
Hahaha that's what you get when getting involved in something you shouldn't Lara!
lol, if you believe in karma, then you shouldn't be kissing Suge's ass :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Davizz on September 12, 2009, 05:21:10 AM
How many people did you expect to buy a product like this? It's 2009 nobody buys CD's anymore (they're vintage, lol). It's only for the true fans and being die hard fans they already have a copy of "The Chronic". So this re-re-release it's only for people who can understand and appreciate the quality of a re-remastered version.
Snoop Dogg will do better number but nothin' more than 10K first week.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Klue on September 12, 2009, 08:39:37 AM
aint ont the list :

 HITS & SoundScan Top Albums (September 8-September 14, 2009)
NOW IN: 54.02%



LW TW artist / album label power index
-- 1 WHITNEY HOUSTON ARISTA/RMG 266,314
I LOOK TO YOU
2 2 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 137,248
TIMES OF OUR LIVES
-- 3 TREY SONGZ ATLANTIC 89,022
READY
4 4 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 43,437
NUMBER ONES
1 5 COLBIE CAILLAT UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 26,379
BREAKTHROUGH
10 6 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 25,311
FEARLESS
12 7 HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE WALT DISNEY 23,312
SOUNDTRACK
18 8 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 22,850
FOUNDATION
-- 9 PITBULL J RECORDS/RMG 22,820
REBELUTION
5 10 KINGS OF LEON RCA/RMG 22,099
ONLY BY THE NIGHT
8 11 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 21,891
TWANG
9 12 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 21,567
E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES)
11 13 NOW COUNTRY 2 SONY MUSIC 21,103
VARIOUS ARTISTS
16 14 NOW 31 SONY MUSIC 20,995
VARIOUS ARTISTS
7 15 REBA MCENTIRE VALORY 20,973
KEEP ON LOVING YOU
17 16 MAXWELL COLUMBIA 19,251
BLACKSUMMERS'NIGHT
-- 17 CHEVELLE EPIC 18,942
SCI-FI CRIMES
24 18 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 18,158
WIDE OPEN
14 19 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 18,023
ESSENTIAL
13 20 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA/RMG 15,281
LEAVE THIS TOWN
20 21 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 13,404
THRILLER
35 22 DARIUS RUCKER CAPITOL NASHVILLE 12,315
LEARN TO LIVE
31 23 NEIL DIAMOND COLUMBIA 11,926
HOT AUGUST NIGHT/NYC
25 24 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 11,215
FAME
45 25 SUGARLAND MERCURY NASHVILLE 10,510
LOVE ON THE INSIDE
34 26 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 10,507
DARK HORSE
27 27 HANNAH MONTANA 3 WALT DISNEY 10,449
SOUNDTRACK
-- 28 BLACK CROWES SILVER ARROW 10,217
BEFORE THE FROST... UNTIL THE F
41 29 SUGARLAND MERCURY NASHVILLE 9,926
LIVE ON THE INSIDE
44 30 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE 9,826
LADY ANTEBELLUM
43 31 WIZARDS OF WAVERLY PLACE WALT DISNEY 9,409
SOUNDTRACK
42 32 SHINEDOWN ATLANTIC 9,330
SOUND OF MADNESS
-- 33 MICHAEL JACKSON MOTOWN 9,129
DEFINITIVE COLLECTION
40 34 JUSTIN MOORE VALORY 9,113
JUSTIN MOORE
15 35 LETOYA CAPITOL 9,102
LADY LOVE
-- 36 INSANE CLOWN POSSE PSYCHOPATHIC 8,620
BANG! POW! BOOM!
-- 37 THE USED REPRISE 8,441
ARTWORK
37 38 DEMI LOVATO HOLLYWOOD 8,435
HERE WE GO AGAIN
49 39 KEITH URBAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 8,267
DEFYING GRAVITY
-- 40 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 8,190
TAYLOR SWIFT
21 41 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 7,959
BAD
-- 42 KENNY CHESNEY BNA/RCA NASHVILLE 7,702
GREATEST HITS II
32 43 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 7,680
RELAPSE
38 44 KIDZ BOP KIDS RAZOR & TIE 7,551
KIDZ BOP 16
30 45 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 7,545
DANGEROUS
-- 46 BRAD PAISLEY ARISTA NASHVILLE 7,013
AMERICAN SATURDAY NIGHT
-- 47 BEYONCE COLUMBIA 6,691
I AM... SASHA FIERCE
33 48 FABOLOUS DEF JAM/IDJ 6,550
LOSO'S WAY
-- 49 GLORIANA ATLANTIC 6,439
GLORIANA
47 50 LEDISI VERVE 6,412
TURN ME LOOSE
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: UCC on September 12, 2009, 08:48:15 AM
First off, they don't get paid by the radio stations to play old Death Row singles, when the radio plays the single, it benefits the record label so they send them singles and hope the radio will play it.  

You get paid royalties every time your song is played on the radio, regardless of whether you had to send the actual copy to them free to try to get them to play it. And you get royalties when it's used in movies, video games, tv shows, etc - they have a lot of classics in the catalog, so they'll get a reasonable amount steadily just from that
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: 3331 on September 12, 2009, 10:51:02 AM
i find it funny dre rejected michael jackson a man whos got 5 albums steady doing over 2-3x what a new version of chronic is.
Title: Re: Chronic Re-Lit sales? any info on it?
Post by: Dre-Day on September 12, 2009, 10:53:59 AM
i find it funny dre rejected michael jackson a man whos got 5 albums steady doing over 2-3x what a new version of chronic is.
i'm glad it never happened.
then again, they missed out on a controversial song about kids, featuring Eminem