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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Chamillitary Click on October 21, 2009, 11:26:52 AM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4581839
my mans Mark Cuban is one of my favorite NBA personalities, never ceases to make me a bigger fan of him day in & day out lol.
“We do performance-enhancing things all the time, just not steroids. .... If you administer them properly and fairly and set the rules strictly, as long as in doing so we recognize there are no negative long-term health-impact issues.”
-- Mark Cuban
i can understand where he is coming from & can in principal agree with him, but it's never good to have drugs around & it fucks up records.
then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.
& before you know it, kids at young ages will be taking them if they are allowed, so imagine what kids coming up in 10 years will look like if they juice up at the age of 12-13; fucking monsters. :o
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hes a dumbass for real
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http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4581839
my mans Mark Cuban is one of my favorite NBA personalities, never ceases to make me a bigger fan of him day in & day out lol.
“We do performance-enhancing things all the time, just not steroids. .... If you administer them properly and fairly and set the rules strictly, as long as in doing so we recognize there are no negative long-term health-impact issues.”
-- Mark Cuban
i can understand where he is coming from & can in principal agree with him, but it's never good to have drugs around & it fucks up records.
then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.
& before you know it, kids at young ages will be taking them if they are allowed, so imagine what kids coming up in 10 years will look like if they juice up at the age of 12-13; fucking monsters. :o
if they started at 12 they'd probably never make it to begin with. Just working out at that age fucks you up. Imagine working out with steroids.
It's a bullshit argument. Making something legal and it becoming an epidemic are two different things. People said once the pill and condoms became readily available everyone would become a sex crazed lunatic. Didn't happen. And neither will a bunch of 13 year olds juicing up. But once they get older and start getting fatigued and inured, then they'll start taking them, like they already do. The difference is people today think they aren't until they get caught. Have fun in the dream world. I live in reality.
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Well since today any asshole is taking them and you can't do shit about it you might as well make em legal so good and honest people with morals have not yet another disadvantage over assholes.
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Well since today any asshole is taking them and you can't do shit about it you might as well make em legal so good and honest people with morals have not yet another disadvantage over assholes.
What makes it immoral? You are simply providing your body with the energy to maintain peak physical condition. I don't take them, but I don't have to. If I was a pro-athlete and the big game was up and I was sore and beaten up the week before the game I would take them no problem if it meant I would be in game shape, rather than not take them and have the other team win only because I couldn't compete at the level I was supposed to be able to.
When a pro gets injured on the field today, they take him to the back and fill him up with all kids of legal drugs to take down the swelling and such, and those drugs have long term health effects on the athlete. Why is that ok, but steroids is not?
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then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.
Players back in the day didn't have access to Tommy John Surgery neither.
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then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.
Players back in the day didn't have access to Tommy John Surgery neither.
Exactly. Give any modern day athlete the sports medicine, training schedules, personal training, of the old days and see how well they do compared to how well they do with them. There is no argument between the eras, and no point of one. We can only live in the now. And now we have steroids (as far back as the 60s actually) and they should be used by anyone that wants to use them. If Paul Pierce refused whatever meds they gave his knee a couple years back because he felt it was unnatural and cheating, and the old players didn't have access to this, and Boston lost because of that, everyone and their mother would have called him an idiot. Steroids are the same thing.
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then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.
Players back in the day didn't have access to Tommy John Surgery neither.
but that just brings you back, sometimes.
surgery brings you back from injury & steriods enhance your overall play, to me those are just two different things.
& Shallow, the average age of losing your virginity just keeps getting younger & younger.
i mean it could just be kids lying saying they got laid when they were 13, but it's a statistic.
if you made it legal, 90% of MLB players would use them, like 95% of Minor Leaguers, most college kids, esspecially ones who have hopes to get drafted or just on the cusp & SO many high school students who all feel like they could make a career out of sports.
plus, it's cheating your natural talent and ablities; make it legal and the competition to become a middle linebacker would be insane, anybody with a decent height to them has a chance to make it to the NFL.
not to even get into the side effects of steriods, if you want a world with more roided up, irritable kids & more kids dying from it, smart to support.
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Well since today any asshole is taking them and you can't do shit about it you might as well make em legal so good and honest people with morals have not yet another disadvantage over assholes.
What makes it immoral? You are simply providing your body with the energy to maintain peak physical condition. I don't take them, but I don't have to. If I was a pro-athlete and the big game was up and I was sore and beaten up the week before the game I would take them no problem if it meant I would be in game shape, rather than not take them and have the other team win only because I couldn't compete at the level I was supposed to be able to.
When a pro gets injured on the field today, they take him to the back and fill him up with all kids of legal drugs to take down the swelling and such, and those drugs have long term health effects on the athlete. Why is that ok, but steroids is not?
If you constantly take that stuff you have far less off-games and you are able to put more energy into the games. Thus having a huge advantage over people who are just as good or better than you, yet you perform on a more consistant level just because you take stuff that doesn't require skill or talent to take. At a certain point, especially in sports that don't require much creativity like that Armstrong bike niggas, it becomes more of a sport of competing doctors than a sport of competing athletes.
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it becomes more of a sport of competing doctors than a sport of competing athletes.
so true, great line.
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leave the steroids to the fucking horses.
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steroids are GREAT.....for cancer patients or people who are in need to a boost
not for 300 pound fat lineman who can run a 4'4 lol
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fuck steriods
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Well since today any asshole is taking them and you can't do shit about it you might as well make em legal so good and honest people with morals have not yet another disadvantage over assholes.
What makes it immoral? You are simply providing your body with the energy to maintain peak physical condition. I don't take them, but I don't have to. If I was a pro-athlete and the big game was up and I was sore and beaten up the week before the game I would take them no problem if it meant I would be in game shape, rather than not take them and have the other team win only because I couldn't compete at the level I was supposed to be able to.
When a pro gets injured on the field today, they take him to the back and fill him up with all kids of legal drugs to take down the swelling and such, and those drugs have long term health effects on the athlete. Why is that ok, but steroids is not?
If you constantly take that stuff you have far less off-games and you are able to put more energy into the games. Thus having a huge advantage over people who are just as good or better than you, yet you perform on a more consistant level just because you take stuff that doesn't require skill or talent to take. At a certain point, especially in sports that don't require much creativity like that Armstrong bike niggas, it becomes more of a sport of competing doctors than a sport of competing athletes.
I'd argue it's already become that with sports like biking and running. Steroids may not be legal but all sorts of things are and the better the legal drugs and programs in the country the better the athlete. They already have so many supplements and things of that nature, that aren't good for you, but used to make you a better athlete, and the ones that train the best, using that stuff, do better.
Cham, the issue with teenage sex isn't that kids are liars ow, it's that they were liars then. A 14 year old slut in 1955 wouldn't easily tell a survey that she fucks. it's more accepted now and easier to disclose, but not much more common. 150 years ago, chicks were married by 14, so they were losing their virginity around then.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4581839
my mans Mark Cuban is one of my favorite NBA personalities, never ceases to make me a bigger fan of him day in & day out lol.
“We do performance-enhancing things all the time, just not steroids. .... If you administer them properly and fairly and set the rules strictly, as long as in doing so we recognize there are no negative long-term health-impact issues.”
-- Mark Cuban
i can understand where he is coming from & can in principal agree with him, but it's never good to have drugs around & it fucks up records.
then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.
& before you know it, kids at young ages will be taking them if they are allowed, so imagine what kids coming up in 10 years will look like if they juice up at the age of 12-13; fucking monsters. :o
if they started at 12 they'd probably never make it to begin with. Just working out at that age fucks you up. Imagine working out with steroids.
Not true, taking steroids at that age will definitely mess you up. But there are like 13 14 year old power lifters that live completely normal lives.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4581839
my mans Mark Cuban is one of my favorite NBA personalities, never ceases to make me a bigger fan of him day in & day out lol.
“We do performance-enhancing things all the time, just not steroids. .... If you administer them properly and fairly and set the rules strictly, as long as in doing so we recognize there are no negative long-term health-impact issues.”
-- Mark Cuban
i can understand where he is coming from & can in principal agree with him, but it's never good to have drugs around & it fucks up records.
then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.
& before you know it, kids at young ages will be taking them if they are allowed, so imagine what kids coming up in 10 years will look like if they juice up at the age of 12-13; fucking monsters. :o
if they started at 12 they'd probably never make it to begin with. Just working out at that age fucks you up. Imagine working out with steroids.
Not true, taking steroids at that age will definitely mess you up. But there are like 13 14 year old power lifters that live completely normal lives.
power lifters benefit from growth stunts. They stay shorter and their centre of gravity is lower. Everyone else would not benefit.
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false
http://stronglifts.com/weight-lifting-myths-debunked/
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false
http://stronglifts.com/weight-lifting-myths-debunked/
We were talking about power lifting, not body building. Whether it makes you shorter or not, it's still a benefit if you are short and stocky.
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We were talking about weight lifters in general. power lifters are weight lifters. did you even read myth number 6? Most kids don't use proper form when they lift, start off too heavy and may damage their growth plates this way. thats the only way. otherwise there isnt much evidence to support weightlifting stunts your growth. hell i started lifting at 13/14 and i ended up at 6'1
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We were talking about weight lifters in general. power lifters are weight lifters. did you even read myth number 6? Most kids don't use proper form when they lift, start off too heavy and may damage their growth plates this way. thats the only way. otherwise there isnt much evidence to support weightlifting stunts your growth. hell i started lifting at 13/14 and i ended up at 6'1
Power lifting is all about starting off too heavy. Either way who cares. I'm no expert on growth stunting. Someone else said it fucks you up. I just took his word for it and said even if, a power lifter should be shorter anyway. How many tall man do you see in the olympics lifting 300 lbs over their head?
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We were talking about weight lifters in general. power lifters are weight lifters. did you even read myth number 6? Most kids don't use proper form when they lift, start off too heavy and may damage their growth plates this way. thats the only way. otherwise there isnt much evidence to support weightlifting stunts your growth. hell i started lifting at 13/14 and i ended up at 6'1
Power lifting is all about starting off too heavy. Either way who cares. I'm no expert on growth stunting. Someone else said it fucks you up. I just took his word for it and said even if, a power lifter should be shorter anyway. How many tall man do you see in the olympics lifting 300 lbs over their head?
They start out too heavy without using proper form. I use to believe weightlifting stunted your growth as well, until I looked into a couple of years ago. Shorter people happen to excel at power lifting, they find their niche. Especially in the olympics where you are competing with the best of the best. It's the same reason you don't see 5'5 people playing in the NBA. I'm sure there are some shorter people who are great basketball players. But why have a 5'5 guy that can shoot 3's on your team when you can have a 6'3 guy that can do the same thing plus can defend better because of his height?