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“We do performance-enhancing things all the time, just not steroids. .... If you administer them properly and fairly and set the rules strictly, as long as in doing so we recognize there are no negative long-term health-impact issues.” -- Mark Cuban
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4581839my mans Mark Cuban is one of my favorite NBA personalities, never ceases to make me a bigger fan of him day in & day out lol.Quote“We do performance-enhancing things all the time, just not steroids. .... If you administer them properly and fairly and set the rules strictly, as long as in doing so we recognize there are no negative long-term health-impact issues.” -- Mark Cubani can understand where he is coming from & can in principal agree with him, but it's never good to have drugs around & it fucks up records.then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.& before you know it, kids at young ages will be taking them if they are allowed, so imagine what kids coming up in 10 years will look like if they juice up at the age of 12-13; fucking monsters.
Well since today any asshole is taking them and you can't do shit about it you might as well make em legal so good and honest people with morals have not yet another disadvantage over assholes.
then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 21, 2009, 11:26:52 AMthen all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.Players back in the day didn't have access to Tommy John Surgery neither.
Quote from: 7even on October 21, 2009, 12:39:46 PMWell since today any asshole is taking them and you can't do shit about it you might as well make em legal so good and honest people with morals have not yet another disadvantage over assholes.What makes it immoral? You are simply providing your body with the energy to maintain peak physical condition. I don't take them, but I don't have to. If I was a pro-athlete and the big game was up and I was sore and beaten up the week before the game I would take them no problem if it meant I would be in game shape, rather than not take them and have the other team win only because I couldn't compete at the level I was supposed to be able to.When a pro gets injured on the field today, they take him to the back and fill him up with all kids of legal drugs to take down the swelling and such, and those drugs have long term health effects on the athlete. Why is that ok, but steroids is not?
it becomes more of a sport of competing doctors than a sport of competing athletes.
'Oh I can't see him, I can't see God', YA'LL CAN'T SEE FUCKIN' AIR NEITHER!
Prove to me the wind. Show me the wind man. I want proof of that shit. Cuz I don't see it.
Quote from: Shallow on October 21, 2009, 01:09:27 PMQuote from: 7even on October 21, 2009, 12:39:46 PMWell since today any asshole is taking them and you can't do shit about it you might as well make em legal so good and honest people with morals have not yet another disadvantage over assholes.What makes it immoral? You are simply providing your body with the energy to maintain peak physical condition. I don't take them, but I don't have to. If I was a pro-athlete and the big game was up and I was sore and beaten up the week before the game I would take them no problem if it meant I would be in game shape, rather than not take them and have the other team win only because I couldn't compete at the level I was supposed to be able to.When a pro gets injured on the field today, they take him to the back and fill him up with all kids of legal drugs to take down the swelling and such, and those drugs have long term health effects on the athlete. Why is that ok, but steroids is not?If you constantly take that stuff you have far less off-games and you are able to put more energy into the games. Thus having a huge advantage over people who are just as good or better than you, yet you perform on a more consistant level just because you take stuff that doesn't require skill or talent to take. At a certain point, especially in sports that don't require much creativity like that Armstrong bike niggas, it becomes more of a sport of competing doctors than a sport of competing athletes.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 21, 2009, 11:26:52 AMhttp://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4581839my mans Mark Cuban is one of my favorite NBA personalities, never ceases to make me a bigger fan of him day in & day out lol.Quote“We do performance-enhancing things all the time, just not steroids. .... If you administer them properly and fairly and set the rules strictly, as long as in doing so we recognize there are no negative long-term health-impact issues.” -- Mark Cubani can understand where he is coming from & can in principal agree with him, but it's never good to have drugs around & it fucks up records.then all the "*" come out & the "if's" & "but's", where "if" he didn't do steriods, he couldn't of done this & how players back in the day didn't have access to them so how is it fair that these guys get the advantage.& before you know it, kids at young ages will be taking them if they are allowed, so imagine what kids coming up in 10 years will look like if they juice up at the age of 12-13; fucking monsters. if they started at 12 they'd probably never make it to begin with. Just working out at that age fucks you up. Imagine working out with steroids.