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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Boss Tweed on December 16, 2009, 07:57:52 PM
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Im too lazy to go find the link but Im sure you cats can do it yourself. But yea they're working hard for a deal
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i hope not, although; without Bay, it won't do anything.
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heres the thing
san diego is only paying dude 6 or 7 mill a year
so boston better be trading something of major value for him
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putting gonzo in any type of capable lineup and this dude has 130+ rbi every year. fucking beast that gets looked over cause of the team he plays on.
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i hope not, although; without Bay, it won't do anything.
Huh... Gozo is a much better player than Bay. And Bay is on the decline. I don't understand what Bay has to do with anything.
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heres the thing
san diego is only paying dude 6 or 7 mill a year
so boston better be trading something of major value for him
Even less... 4.75 million this season and an club option in 2011 for 5.5. And I know the Sox would be giving up Bucholz and Ellsbury.
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heres the thing
san diego is only paying dude 6 or 7 mill a year
so boston better be trading something of major value for him
Even less... 4.75 million this season and an club option in 2011 for 5.5. And I know the Sox would be giving up Bucholz and Ellsbury.
and the thing is, that ain't shit lol
bucholz = a #3 pitcher at best
ellsbury = white DExter Fowler
lol
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heres the thing
san diego is only paying dude 6 or 7 mill a year
so boston better be trading something of major value for him
Even less... 4.75 million this season and an club option in 2011 for 5.5. And I know the Sox would be giving up Bucholz and Ellsbury.
and the thing is, that ain't shit lol
bucholz = a #3 pitcher at best
ellsbury = white DExter Fowler
lol
If Bucholz can work on his concentration problems he has the stuff to be a number 1.
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i think Bucholz can do better in the NL West than the AL East - this is for sure
but I still don't see why Red Sox fans have such a hard-on for him and try to raise his value because of one no-hitter he threw as a rookie lol
and Ellsbury's 2007 was clearly an aberation...he's a .300 hitter who can't walk to save his life - but plays solid D and is a great base stealer
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i think Bucholz can do better in the NL West than the AL East - this is for sure
but I still don't see why Red Sox fans have such a hard-on for him and try to raise his value because of one no-hitter he threw as a rookie lol
and Ellsbury's 2007 was clearly an aberation...he's a .300 hitter who can't walk to save his life - but plays solid D and is a great base stealer
The only people that try and downplay Bucholz talent are Yankee fans. Which is funny because they had a plaque in Cooperstown for Joba before he even started a game.
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i think Bucholz can do better in the NL West than the AL East - this is for sure
but I still don't see why Red Sox fans have such a hard-on for him and try to raise his value because of one no-hitter he threw as a rookie lol
and Ellsbury's 2007 was clearly an aberation...he's a .300 hitter who can't walk to save his life - but plays solid D and is a great base stealer
The only people that try and downplay Bucholz talent are Yankee fans. Which is funny because they had a plaque in Cooperstown for Joba before he even started a game.
LMAO you fool - what talent? his 4.91 career ERA, his 1.495 WHIP or his losing record on one of the MLB's premier teams?
or are you talking about his amazing skill of pitching for the Portland Sea Dogs? ::)
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i hope not, although; without Bay, it won't do anything.
Huh... Gozo is a much better player than Bay. And Bay is on the decline. I don't understand what Bay has to do with anything.
obviously lol.
but that offense is weak without Bay & Gonzo.
forget Bay, he was just someone i expect to be resigned; bottom line is they need another bat besides Gonzo.
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i think Bucholz can do better in the NL West than the AL East - this is for sure
but I still don't see why Red Sox fans have such a hard-on for him and try to raise his value because of one no-hitter he threw as a rookie lol
and Ellsbury's 2007 was clearly an aberation...he's a .300 hitter who can't walk to save his life - but plays solid D and is a great base stealer
The only people that try and downplay Bucholz talent are Yankee fans. Which is funny because they had a plaque in Cooperstown for Joba before he even started a game.
LMAO you fool - what talent? his 4.91 career ERA, his 1.495 WHIP or his losing record on one of the MLB's premier teams?
or are you talking about his amazing skill of pitching for the Portland Sea Dogs? ::)
He's still a kid and basically every big trade that has the Sox named involved, his name is at the center of what the other team wants. And outside a rough August the kid pitched pretty well last season. If he can get over his concentration problems he'll be at least a number 2. The kid has ace like stuff. The only people that don't think this kid has the talent to be a front line pitcher are Yankee fans.
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the giants don't trade tim linceum
the yankees don't trade phil hughes
the dodgers don't trade clayton kershaw
clay bucholz? he's touchable in deals.
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yeah...i dont see the hype around buchholz. sure he could live up to the hype but so far he aint showed us shit besides his one amazing outing.
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the giants don't trade tim linceum
the yankees don't trade phil hughes
the dodgers don't trade clayton kershaw
clay bucholz? he's touchable in deals.
I don't understand your point. The Sox have made it very clear they don't want to move Buchholz unless they get wowed with a deal. So thay would make him untouchable. And besides this year Phil Hughes was straight ass cheeks. And his nice season was out of the bullpen, not starting. While Buchholz showed stretches this season where he proved what the hype is about. I really don't understand your point. Would it be too much trouble to ask you do a better job of conveying it more effectively ?
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You know who didn't have a good season until they were 25 ?
Tom Glavine and I would say he went to have a half way decent career.
Chris Carpenter also says hello. He didn't tap into his potential until he was 29 :o
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BTW when did a 4.75 ERA, 1.544 WHIP, and several miles off your fast ball become whats hot in the streets ?
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if you want to sit there and wait on the "prospects" to develope, go ahead
the yankees got it right - you go after what you need in FA to win NOW, not 5 years from now
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if you want to sit there and wait on the "prospects" to develope, go ahead
the yankees got it right - you go after what you need in FA to win NOW, not 5 years from now
Buchholz showed signs this season. And the Sox signed Lackey and are going hard for Gonzo right now. I would call that going for what you need to win. And the Yanks can get whatever player they want in free agency because they can outspend every other team in Baseball by a large margin in a broken economic structure. And I don't see what any of this has to do with what the Sox and other teams see in Clay Buchholz.
Really Hack you are doing a horrible job of conveying whatever message you're trying to get across. Are you trying to say the Sox should just buy it year in and year out like the Yanks do ? When it's proven no other team can. Every team in Baseball can't afford to gut the farm system for a season or two rental like the Yanks can because the Yanks have endless resources and Seligs blessing to do whatever they want. Are you trying to say Buchholz has no talent even though the Sox and many other teams in Baseball feel he will be a star considering every big trade that is talked about involving the Sox, Buchholz name is the center piece of the trade. The initial argument was Buchholz has no talent, which has been proven false by his demand in every trade talk the Sox are involved with.
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i guess we can agree to disagree
i say Gonzalez > bucholz + ellsbury
any day of the week
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i guess we can agree to disagree
i say Gonzalez > bucholz + ellsbury
any day of the week
Without a doubt... I would say Gonzo >>> Pretty much any two prospect combo in Baseball. Can you imagine the numbers he could put up in a decent hitters park with a decent line up around him ?
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if you had a lineup of Pedroia/Youk/Gonzo/Vic-Martinez?
that'd be a great top 4
(granted not nearly as good as Jeter/Granderson/Arod/Tex
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i think Bucholz can do better in the NL West than the AL East - this is for sure
but I still don't see why Red Sox fans have such a hard-on for him and try to raise his value because of one no-hitter he threw as a rookie lol
and Ellsbury's 2007 was clearly an aberation...he's a .300 hitter who can't walk to save his life - but plays solid D and is a great base stealer
Quite the opposite last year. By the numbers he was the worst defensive center fielder in baseball with a UZR of -18.6.
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right now gonzo is the main reason people go to padres games. and not many people at that....so i cant wait to see san diegos attendance if/when they deal gonzo.
peavy - gone
gonzo - pretty much gone (sooner or later)
fans - gone since 2000 lmao