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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Fatdodger on February 18, 2010, 09:50:38 PM
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Today i was listening to my ipod and alot of good snoop songs came on mostly songs with Kurupt songs from Space Boogie And Tha Streets Is A Muthafucka. And a couple more songs from murder was the case doggystyle and tha doggfather and i came to the conclusion that snoop is really scarred of making gangsta shit like if it hurts him or something and I'm really thinking and hoping that detox or something comes that could break snoop outta this little gay funk that he's in.
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its bout making money and to the mass public that sound dont make money. if u listen 2 his new album he still tries to keep the lyrics g, but the beats are more pop. it is what it is, its an industry and thats unfortunately what it takes to make money until someone breaks the trend and it works
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Snoop should just be the Snoop everybody loves that's not all about dancin' & making love to his wife and mistresses. Snoop used to be about puttin out trill shit whether if he was on DeathRow or DoggHouse. I mean it's real to his life more than our life, it ain't about walkin to the corner store to get a box of blunts and tryna pick up a slut if u c 1 anymore. If the nigga get back on those gangsta ass old Eastsidaz & ghettosoul beats and drop some real shit like Nigga Shut The Fuck Up And Listen then Snoop will be ight. The Wacka Flacka way is the only way to go nowadays as far as puttin out albums and mixtapes, know what they want, put it out as mixtapes and make the album built upon demand and requests & the right bit of mass appeal. That wouldn't be Ego Trippin' foreal.
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Snoop still makes g-shit it just never is on his albums.. countless bootlegs, advances, and guest appearances wheres it at.
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Snoop still makes g-shit it just never is on his albums.. countless bootlegs, advances, and guest appearances wheres it at.
i know right. like that new Lynch trak
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Well,blue carpet treatment went platinum and was critically acclaimed and loved by fans,since then hes gone the pop route and failed to even go gold and have been generally hated by fans and critics.Id say the fans have spoken.
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Well,blue carpet treatment went platinum and was critically acclaimed and loved by fans,since then hes gone the pop route and failed to even go gold and have been generally hated by fans and critics.Id say the fans have spoken.
Totally agree...
Rap world is a big place with different brands,If i want to hear R&B rap,i'll go get Nelly ,Ja rule,Fabulous and them...i like them for what they do,that's them!!
Snoop dogg should do him!Keep dropping a Snoop dogg album not a T-pain shit,Lil john thing or R&B songs...Snoop Dogg is a brand!!
I'll still pickup doggytlyle,Last meal,Top Dogg & Blue carpet treatment in 10 years if i lost the ones i have,that's what it's about, timeless Albums!!
Wake up Snoop,The albums you released being yourself were not flops,don't try too hard to do songs to the young ones,Make the young ones come to you!
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Well,blue carpet treatment went platinum and was critically acclaimed and loved by fans,since then hes gone the pop route and failed to even go gold and have been generally hated by fans and critics.Id say the fans have spoken.
Snoop,The albums you released being yourself were not flops,don't try too hard to do songs to the young ones,Make the young ones come to you!
u had that right. that's why he should drop those mixtapes to try 2 find out what works for Snoop and drop an album based upon what's more recepted as far as listeners ears go.
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snoop cares about selling records gangsta shit dont sell
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snoop cares about selling records gangsta shit dont sell
So why is it blue carpet treatment his last gangsts rap album,went platinum,and since hes gone completely pop both his albums have failed to go gold?
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show me a snoop dogg gangsta album
kuz he has never made a gangsta album in my opinion
all of snoops albums nobody died.. or he caught slugs..like say a mc eiht, spice 1 or a lynch..
snoop always been the cheech n chong of the west coast
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lol so doggystyle isnt gangsta rap?
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lol so doggystyle isnt gangsta rap?
naw not really. it was always more of a ima funky ass bad muthafucka album.
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Please dont speak,you are a retard.
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its bout making money and to the mass public that sound dont make money. if u listen 2 his new album he still tries to keep the lyrics g, but the beats are more pop. it is what it is, its an industry and thats unfortunately what it takes to make money until someone breaks the trend and it works
last time i checked, the album didn't go diamond
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I hate it when people justify the shitty music artists puts out by saying "it's a industry, it is what it is..."
Well, people like Snoop have so much money they can't even spend it all in their lifetime, and in 2010 there is NO POINT for people like Snoop to not release the music he wants to make. And the most ridicioulus thing is that going the commercial route hasn't worked for him since R&G. I am 100% shure that he would ATLEAST sell as good as Malice in... with a pure gangsta album.
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Its funny to hear people call snoop innovative,or a leader or a king when his whole career all hes done is follow trends and proven he needs someone to guide him.
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I said it for the past 5 years.. Snoop Dogg needs good guidance, good marketing, and smart people behind him.
Malice N Wonderland is a proof.
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Snoop just wants his shit to sound fresh (who can blame him). My opinion is get the BEST new producers from The West & The MidWest and maybe a Canadian nigga and a beat or two from Daz, Dre, Soopa, Quik, and BellyFlopp and the nigga will be str8, even tho he could use more MALICE (the word) in his lyrics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7NYMJTaz4A
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Its funny to hear people call snoop innovative,or a leader or a king when his whole career all hes done is follow trends and proven he needs someone to guide him.
i know, i said that when ego trippin dropped, but i got criticised for that :laugh:
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Its funny to hear people call snoop innovative,or a leader or a king when his whole career all hes done is follow trends and proven he needs someone to guide him.
i know, i said that when ego trippin dropped, but i got criticised for that :laugh:
there's nothing wrong with following trends, as long as it comes out original. besides Snoop set tha trend for being a fly ass nigga. b4 Snoop, everybody was political, partyin', and shootin' pumps with they fist up. Tha DPG/Snoop came in and broaded the horizon for the mainstream and show'd muthafuckaz how to be cool. MIW probably might be one of the worst Snoop records but I'm not 12 anymore, I'm not "new" to Hip Hop anymore... and even still there's alotta young listeners out here that know about ALL of the old shit and who's to say they don't like his older shit like we do or if they ginuwinly prefer the newer shit more, y'all NY niggaz hated on that Cali shit when it first came out, and all of that wasn't just competition.
Snoop doesn't have to work with so and so anymore (it's clear) all Snoop should do is just put whatever sounds good on the album, not something that only caters to so and so, if it don't sound tight why bother.
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these idiot rappers should set trends instead of following them.
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Snoop is in a position that he doesnt need to cater to anyone,he needs to make the music that he should be making.Do you hear the rolling stones jumping from trend to trend?Do you see bruce springsteen using auto tune?All snoop is doing is alienating his audience,hence why with each album he sells less and less.His whole career hes done it,he went from death row to no limit who was big at the time,then he worked with lil jon,neptunes,timbaland,auto tune,hyphy,now jerkin and soulja boy.Its pathetic.Hes like the major labels bitch doing whatever they want instead of doing what he does best,laid back westcoast gangsta rap.He needs someone to give him direction.He claims to be a king,but kings dont follow other people they set their own rules.All I see is a confused old man trying desperately to hop to whatever trend is hottest.
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Scared? More like too old, wealthy, and media savvy..
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I cant really hate on dude for makin his music less gangsta these days. Im only gonna have a real issue with dude if he sells out the Westcoast on some money makin shit. Then he's a strait up bitch. But real shit, people needa realize that Snoop aint the same man he was 15 yrs ago. If he was...he'd be a fuckin idiot. Havin kids changes u...and if it dont, then u seriously need to get yo shit together. If you asked people in the early 90's whether Ice Cube would be making kids movies 15 yrs later...theyd think you was on crack. Lookin at it now...probably a smart business decision, and he's a different man. My only beef with Snoop is...I wanna see him REALLY fuckin with these Westcoast cats. He's already made his legacy as a rapper...he can make his legacy grow to another level if he helps bring back the West (as much as I hate that phrase..."bring back the west" lol)
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Dont think this niggaz kids aint asking him how come he always drop shit about bangin and pimpin! Shit parents have the most impact on their kids. they are for the most part with them 16 of the 24 hours, so what they see or hear is what they get and become. snoop aint wit that shit. Any real nigga would keep them from that type shit and he wants them to understand that there is another side to him. The side that snoop want for his kids. Its not like he has totally switched shit up. he still drops gangsta shit just not nearly as much as he used to. you niggaz that want just straight gangsta shit better enjoy some of these young cats because when they settle down and have a family they gon switch that shit up too!
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Dont think this niggaz kids aint asking him how come he always drop shit about bangin and pimpin! Shit parents have the most impact on their kids. they are for the most part with them 16 of the 24 hours, so what they see or hear is what they get and become. snoop aint wit that shit. Any real nigga would keep them from that type shit and he wants them to understand that there is another side to him. The side that snoop want for his kids. Its not like he has totally switched shit up. he still drops gangsta shit just not nearly as much as he used to. you niggaz that want just straight gangsta shit better enjoy some of these young cats because when they settle down and have a family they gon switch that shit up too!
and truthfully that's what it iz...
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I hate it when people justify the shitty music artists puts out by saying "it's a industry, it is what it is..."
Well, people like Snoop have so much money they can't even spend it all in their lifetime, and in 2010 there is NO POINT for people like Snoop to not release the music he wants to make. And the most ridicioulus thing is that going the commercial route hasn't worked for him since R&G. I am 100% shure that he would ATLEAST sell as good as Malice in... with a pure gangsta album.
exactly how well was 2001 received that is the formula that is gonna work forever. commercial but gangsta
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Snoop was best on Tha eastsidaz , murder was the case and doggystyle to me . thats the real snoop
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snoop cares about selling records gangsta shit dont sell
So why is it blue carpet treatment his last gangsts rap album,went platinum,and since hes gone completely pop both his albums have failed to go gold?
you call blue carpet treatment a gangsta album :D snoop was only selling because of his status in the game, he's been fucking garbage for years now but you dick riding niggaz keep hoping he'll do another doggy style album...this sellout nigga is talking about cutting records with miley cyrus he ain't doing no g shit, this nigga bow down to slouja boy after dissing him because he saw theres money to be made fucking with soulja, snoop don't give a fuck about his fans because his fans been asking for g shit for years and he's been giving hot garbage garbage, cutting tracks with red neck country singers anything to make money.... that nigga is one of the biggest sellouts in rap history, he already loaded he should be doing this shit for the love and give his fans what they want.
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snoop cares about selling records gangsta shit dont sell
So why is it blue carpet treatment his last gangsts rap album,went platinum,and since hes gone completely pop both his albums have failed to go gold?
this sellout nigga is talking about cutting records with miley cyrus he ain't doing no g shit, this nigga bow down to slouja boy after dissing him because he saw theres money to be made fucking with soulja, snoop don't give a fuck about his fans because his fans been asking for g shit for years and he's been giving hot garbage garbage, cutting tracks with red neck country singers anything to make money.... that nigga is one of the biggest sellouts in rap history
he's just makin' the game a lil mo gangsta. even sb might not do too bad of a verse if he made a track wit b.g. that sounded like "Where dey at".
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maybe he's just growing up.
snoop is probably close to being 40 years old.
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I bet over half of you guys that are all pissy at Snoop for not putting gangsta shit on his albums would sit there and call him a fake gangsta if he did put that shit out on his albums these days. West coast rappers can do no good in th eyes of DubCC. This board is so hypocritical it's absurd.
Plus if Snoop's music was for the most part gangsta rap, I don't think it would be that great. It would sound forced, because he's not that hungry MC anymore that was living that street life like he was when he first came out.
Overall Malice wasn't his best effort by any means, but 2 of its singles (I Wanna Rock and Gangsta Luv) are 2 of the biggest hits in hip-hop over the last year or two. And IMO they're both dope as fuck.
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he might be scared but he still does
shut you down
pro tocol
world of a gangsta
and the new shit hes droppin..not malice shit
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I bet over half of you guys that are all pissy at Snoop for not putting gangsta shit on his albums would sit there and call him a fake gangsta if he did put that shit out on his albums these days. West coast rappers can do no good in th eyes of DubCC. This board is so hypocritical it's absurd.
Plus if Snoop's music was for the most part gangsta rap, I don't think it would be that great. It would sound forced, because he's not that hungry MC anymore that was living that street life like he was when he first came out.
Overall Malice wasn't his best effort by any means, but 2 of its singles (I Wanna Rock and Gangsta Luv) are 2 of the biggest hits in hip-hop over the last year or two. And IMO they're both dope as fuck.
u know u'r right. except i would never chastize tha doggfather of gangsta rap 4 making "raw musicc". but at tha same time we're right too. what's wrong with Snoop ACTUALLY catering to his base 4 once and stop trying to reach out to everybody else that didn't already fuck with Snoop from tha jump. i agree that there's 1 two meny hypocrites and assmouthedshittalkers on here but YOU can't deny that Snoop doesn't exactly use his head when he's making albums and mixtapes. getting niggaz like Soulja Boy on a track isn't gonna broaden his base, anybody that's already heard a Soulja Boy rap or ever heard a rap song for that matter already knows who tha fuck Snoop Dogg is and making a track with them two on it must be outta fun and 4 tha love of hip hop and not some numbers shit. what audience is Snoop appealing to that Soulja Boy has and he doesn't? You can't say the kids, shit, Snoop Dogg is synonymous with 2Pac and Martin Luther King Jr. lol. And 4 tha record "gangsta luv" was a shitty excuse 4 an rnb track and "i wanna rock" was definitely Snoop's 2010 "drop it like it's hot". if Snoop really wants to plz everybody he'll pay more close to his production and his song approaches rather than just features and top of the market producers. i mean he's Snoop D-O-double G, how hard does he have to try 2 plz ppl...
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I bet over half of you guys that are all pissy at Snoop for not putting gangsta shit on his albums would sit there and call him a fake gangsta if he did put that shit out on his albums these days. West coast rappers can do no good in th eyes of DubCC. This board is so hypocritical it's absurd.
Plus if Snoop's music was for the most part gangsta rap, I don't think it would be that great. It would sound forced, because he's not that hungry MC anymore that was living that street life like he was when he first came out.
Overall Malice wasn't his best effort by any means, but 2 of its singles (I Wanna Rock and Gangsta Luv) are 2 of the biggest hits in hip-hop over the last year or two. And IMO they're both dope as fuck.
If Snoop tried to make the shit that he was making in tha last meal/eastsidaz era i would not hate i would really back snoop.
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I bet over half of you guys that are all pissy at Snoop for not putting gangsta shit on his albums would sit there and call him a fake gangsta if he did put that shit out on his albums these days. West coast rappers can do no good in th eyes of DubCC. This board is so hypocritical it's absurd.
Plus if Snoop's music was for the most part gangsta rap, I don't think it would be that great. It would sound forced, because he's not that hungry MC anymore that was living that street life like he was when he first came out.
Overall Malice wasn't his best effort by any means, but 2 of its singles (I Wanna Rock and Gangsta Luv) are 2 of the biggest hits in hip-hop over the last year or two. And IMO they're both dope as fuck.
Quoted for truth
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