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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: OG Hack Wilson on July 08, 2010, 10:35:33 PM
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http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/08/kobe-bryant-talks-about-lebron-james-miami-heat/
says as long as Lebron has happy wherever he goes then it's the right choice.
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Kobe is so upset.
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yea hes upset because he was wrong about james, imo kobe probaly thinks of him of what micheal thought of himself. now this guys a bonafide scrub
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^the real reason kobe is upset is because he will be swept by lebron for the rest of his career if he gets to the finals.
can't blame him.
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Kobe is so upset.
What about that made him seem upset lol? He shoulda come to the Lakers if we wanted a ring.
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Kobe is so upset.
What about that made him seem upset lol? He shoulda come to the Lakers if we wanted a ring.
Kobe couldnt have handled being the Robin again :-X
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Kobe is so upset.
What about that made him seem upset lol? He shoulda come to the Lakers if we wanted a ring.
Kobe couldnt have handled being the Robin again :-X
That's very debatable man. For one, everyone knows LA will be Kobe's team till he retires. Second, Kobe has shown that (at least at this point in his career) that he's all about rings. But LeBron's on the heat so this conversation really serves no purpose lol
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lol at the lebron dicc succers on here again, lebron left his squad to go play in WADE COUNTY! yet y'all call kobe robin hahahahahahahahahaha, kobe never played robin it was superman and batman, lebron is a talented bitch with bitch ways it's that simple,alot of you on here can relate yell
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Any team Lebron would have gone to it would have caused some negative feedback.
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lol at the lebron dicc succers on here again, lebron left his squad to go play in WADE COUNTY! yet y'all call kobe robin hahahahahahahahahaha, kobe never played robin it was superman and batman, lebron is a talented bitch with bitch ways it's that simple,alot of you on here can relate yell
If you understand the game of Basketball, Kobe was without a doubt Robin on the three peat Lakers. Shaq was the "most dominant" player in the game according to most, and EVERY Laker fan back then. There is no way you can have the "most dominant" player in the game as your bigman, and have him NOT be the focal point of your team. Shaq was the one drawing double and triple teams...not Kobe. Thats not the way an offense works. The ball goes to Shaq, he either scores quickly...or allows the double team to come, opening up the floor for outside shooters...or Kobe slashing to the hoop. Kobe was the benificiary of Shaq. Of course having Kobe, helped Shaq too. But the only people who really seem to question Kobe being the #2 on those teams, are current Laker fans who changed their tune about Shaq the minute he wasnt a Laker lol.
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lol at the lebron dicc succers on here again, lebron left his squad to go play in WADE COUNTY! yet y'all call kobe robin hahahahahahahahahaha, kobe never played robin it was superman and batman, lebron is a talented bitch with bitch ways it's that simple,alot of you on here can relate yell
If you understand the game of Basketball, Kobe was without a doubt Robin on the three peat Lakers. Shaq was the "most dominant" player in the game according to most, and EVERY Laker fan back then. There is no way you can have the "most dominant" player in the game as your bigman, and have him NOT be the focal point of your team. Shaq was the one drawing double and triple teams...not Kobe. Thats not the way an offense works. The ball goes to Shaq, he either scores quickly...or allows the double team to come, opening up the floor for outside shooters...or Kobe slashing to the hoop. Kobe was the benificiary of Shaq. Of course having Kobe, helped Shaq too. But the only people who really seem to question Kobe being the #2 on those teams, are current Laker fans who changed their tune about Shaq the minute he wasnt a Laker lol.
If you read the comics you'll know that Robin becomes Nightwing and recently takes over as Batman as BRuce Wayne is lost somewhere. But Batman never gets to be as big and as strong as Superman.
My point is Robin is closer to Batman than Batman is to Superman.
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lol at the lebron dicc succers on here again, lebron left his squad to go play in WADE COUNTY! yet y'all call kobe robin hahahahahahahahahaha, kobe never played robin it was superman and batman, lebron is a talented bitch with bitch ways it's that simple,alot of you on here can relate yell
If you understand the game of Basketball, Kobe was without a doubt Robin on the three peat Lakers. Shaq was the "most dominant" player in the game according to most, and EVERY Laker fan back then. There is no way you can have the "most dominant" player in the game as your bigman, and have him NOT be the focal point of your team. Shaq was the one drawing double and triple teams...not Kobe. Thats not the way an offense works. The ball goes to Shaq, he either scores quickly...or allows the double team to come, opening up the floor for outside shooters...or Kobe slashing to the hoop. Kobe was the benificiary of Shaq. Of course having Kobe, helped Shaq too. But the only people who really seem to question Kobe being the #2 on those teams, are current Laker fans who changed their tune about Shaq the minute he wasnt a Laker lol.
If you read the comics you'll know that Robin becomes Nightwing and recently takes over as Batman as BRuce Wayne is lost somewhere. But Batman never gets to be as big and as strong as Superman.
My point is Robin is closer to Batman than Batman is to Superman.
I gotcha. So Kobe can finally be Batman under those conditions. But he WAS a sidekick...and Batman wasnt a sidekick. Maybe Shaq = Lone Ranger, Kobe = Tonto?
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I think I like the Shaq=Batman, and Kobe=Robin/Nightwing metaphor.
Although during the three peat years, Shaq did dominate over the game, Kobe was truly coming into his own. We forget Kobe was 21-23 during those years, those are the years most players develop. In 1999-2000, Shaq was the team, if you really want you can say Kobe's first ring was not truly his doing, Shaq was by far in his prime. It was Shaq's best year in every way possible, and Kobe was along for the ride. Kobe only had 22.5ppg, but showed some signs.
In 2000-2001 Kobe finally was coming into his own, Shaq was still dominate and the Lakers were at the best during the 3 peat era. They went a legendary 15-1 during the playoffs, and it was the perfect storm. Shaq, not as good as 2000, was still the most dominate player in the game, and Kobe, not as great as he'll be, was the best wing player in the game at that time. During the season, Shaq had 28.7ppg, Kobe had 28.5ppg, and in the playoffs, Shaq, had 30.7ppg and Kobe had 29.4ppg. Kobe also had 5.0apg during the season, and 6.1apg during the playoffs, showing that he was becoming the team player needed to be with Shaq.
In 2001-2002, both their production dropped, as Robert Horry, Rick Fox and Derek Fisher actually picked up a lot of slack. Shaq was starting to show signs of getting out of shape, and Kobe was showing more late game take overs. Friction began, as Kobe began to complain out loud about Shaq's shape, and since it was Shaq's team, players began to shun Kobe.
2002-2003, the dynasty is over, the 3 peat ends, and the guard changes in LA. At 24 years old, Kobe takes over the team and team chemistry goes crazy. Kobe has a then career year, 30.0ppg, 6.9rpg, and 5.9apg. Shaq improves on the year before with 27.5ppg, and 11.1rpg, and in the playoffs Kobe takes charge, 32.1ppg, 40% 3 point shootting, and Shaq plays Robin with 27ppg, and 14.8rpg.
Of course we don't need to remember the 2003-2004 "Super" Lakers, that eventually lost to a team with true chemistry, and of course the break up and rebuilding of the Lakers. But Kobe during the 3 peat years was not the Scottie Pippen of the duo by any stretch of the imagination. Kobe was the balance Shaq needed to win, and Shaq was the dominate force in the middle that Kobe needed to win. In Chicago MJ would have years scoring 30 points or more during their dynasty years. Pippen's season's high was 22.0ppg, and that was the year MJ left. So you have an average of 10 points difference between MJ and Pippen. Shaq and Kobe was more like 1 most seasons.
Well I know you'll find a way to discredit Kobe, oh well. His still got 6 more rings to go before I'm truly happy, and that's when a Laker finally catches Bill Russell. Forget Jordan, all I want is a Lakers to get 12 rings and then we can over take that spot.
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kobe without Gasol or Shaq = Allen iverson with better defense
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kobe without Gasol or Shaq = Allen iverson with better defense
yeah yeah... except you'd never hear this from Kobe
http://www.youtube.com/v/eGDBR2L5kzI&hl=en_US&fs=1
AI with Shaq=titles, yeah yeah, Kobe with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker equals 8th seeds and 1st round exits. I mean, it is what it is. Teams win titles, not players, but star players carry the teams.
This is for the LeBron fans who are excited now and can't wait to see the Heat "win it all" over the Lakers... :tosser: You guys will actually like this. I may hate the Lebron move, but I think the videos are funny. Fitting because the Bash at the Beach in 1996 was in Florida, and Hulk Hogan lives in Miami now, so this is truly fitting.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Qoxi37vvviQ&hl=en_US&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/SLA1TPoCDmI&hl=en_US&fs=1
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Kobe is so upset.
y would kobe be upset, hes went to the finals 7 times in his 14 seasons in the NBA thats basically lebrons whole career and he only went once.
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Kobe is so upset.
y would kobe be upset, hes went to the finals 7 times in his 14 seasons in the NBA thats basically lebrons whole career and he only went once.
By 25, Kobe won 3 NBA titles, and as you can see by the numbers and stats I threw up, he was just as important as Shaq for 2 of them, and he was the leading scorer when the Lakers lost in 2004. LeBron never had Shaq in his prime, so I wouldn't fault LeBron, but I can say if Kobe was to have a career ending injury tomorrow he can walk away a true Hall of Famer at 31 years old, and have 5 rings. There was another who walked away with 5 rings at the age of 31, not winning Finals MVP in every single Finals himself, but he was forced out by HIV at 31 and his still in the Hall of Fame. You ask any player at the beginning of their career, hey by age 31, you'd match Magic Johnson in titles, and leadership, I guarantee you they'd take it every time. So why would Kobe be mad, he only works harder.
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kobe>lebron
even MJ said it himself. i would post the video but damn chinese government blocks youtube.
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kobe>lebron
even MJ said it himself. i would post the video but damn chinese government blocks youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/v/4r_XQrmGlgE&hl=en_US&fs=1
For good measure
http://www.youtube.com/v/-sTlxfIEx2I&hl=en_US&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/Q31I6DTEcf4&hl=en_US&fs=1
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All this happened while Kobe always either had great teammates or .500 seasons. Now LeBron finally will have great teammates and will stomp on the Lakers and Kobe.
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All this happened while Kobe always either had great teammates or .500 seasons. Now LeBron finally will have great teammates and will stomp on the Lakers and Kobe.
if lebron, bosh, and wade played kobe 3 on 1, kobe would still blow them out 12-0
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I think I like the Shaq=Batman, and Kobe=Robin/Nightwing metaphor.
Although during the three peat years, Shaq did dominate over the game, Kobe was truly coming into his own. We forget Kobe was 21-23 during those years, those are the years most players develop. In 1999-2000, Shaq was the team, if you really want you can say Kobe's first ring was not truly his doing, Shaq was by far in his prime. It was Shaq's best year in every way possible, and Kobe was along for the ride. Kobe only had 22.5ppg, but showed some signs.
Thats fine, he might have been developing. I dont disagree. My point is only that, Shaq was the man for those titles. Kobe's last two titles I give him far more credit for than I do for ALL of the threepeat titles combined.
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I think I like the Shaq=Batman, and Kobe=Robin/Nightwing metaphor.
Although during the three peat years, Shaq did dominate over the game, Kobe was truly coming into his own. We forget Kobe was 21-23 during those years, those are the years most players develop. In 1999-2000, Shaq was the team, if you really want you can say Kobe's first ring was not truly his doing, Shaq was by far in his prime. It was Shaq's best year in every way possible, and Kobe was along for the ride. Kobe only had 22.5ppg, but showed some signs.
Thats fine, he might have been developing. I dont disagree. My point is only that, Shaq was the man for those titles. Kobe's last two titles I give him far more credit for than I do for ALL of the threepeat titles combined.
Didn't comment on the rest... lol.. it's all good. That year you focused on is truly an example of how far Kobe has came.
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All this happened while Kobe always either had great teammates or .500 seasons. Now LeBron finally will have great teammates and will stomp on the Lakers and Kobe.
if lebron, bosh, and wade played kobe 3 on 1, kobe would still blow them out 12-0
That's the ridiculous crazy talk I've been referring to. Everybody knows it's plain wrong, but you are still saying it because you hate reality.
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All this happened while Kobe always either had great teammates or .500 seasons. Now LeBron finally will have great teammates and will stomp on the Lakers and Kobe.
if lebron, bosh, and wade played kobe 3 on 1, kobe would still blow them out 12-0
That's the ridiculous crazy talk I've been referring to. Everybody knows it's plain wrong, but you are still saying it because you hate reality.
Reality is this my friend...
(http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/files/2009/06/kobe-book-cover.jpg)
Reality is that the Lakers are defending their title, and they are going to be introduced every game as the NBA Champions. Reality is that Kobe > D.Wade, Gasol = Bosh and Artest< LeBron, Laker > anything the Heat can muster up and Phil > the kid with 2 years experience. Reality is that if the Heat play the Lakers in the NBA Finals, and the Lakers win, you are talking about the greatest player ever in Kobe Bryant, Believe that, if they meet, and the Heat lose, do not even log on to this board, do read on basketball news, because all Kobe haters will never hear the end of it. They will be eat crow for years.
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We'll see about that. It's meaningless to analyze the 2011 Finals before the Heat even have 7 guys on their roster lol. I personally am just really happy that we got a showtime team and that the Lakers have a serious rival now (cause the Celtics wouldn't bring it anymore due to aging).
If the Heat won't win the 2011 title, believe me, I will not be sad or angry or anything, I'm not a Heat fan by any means. But I'm not a Team USA fan by any means either, and I still liked watching them, as I will like watching the Heat.
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^^^^ you just want the Lakers to lose ... regardless to which team it would be
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^^^^ you just want the Lakers to lose ... regardless to which team it would be
I have to admit that this is the case. But an alley-oop pass from Wade to James for a dunk after a crunch time 3 by the Heat's Derek Fisher is extra sweet, no doubt.
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Fish ain't going to Miami .... and you should hate the Heat after the way they robbed you a title in 2006
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The league administrators/officials robbed us, not the Heat. I hate guys like Stern and Salvatore with a passion and for good reason, but I can't blame Wade for shooting more FTs than the entire Mavs team...
You have to admit there's nothing funnier than Fisher going to Miami and nailing a few 3pt daggers in the Finals against an almost PG-less Laker team.
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this nigga kobe was demandin a trade a few years ago when he was playin with some sorry ass people
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2886927
they asked kobe at the championship finals press conference if it would be a nightmare to guard D wade and Lebron if they end up on the same team? he responded with "what do you think" LOL.. he didnt want this to go down
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this nigga kobe was demandin a trade a few years ago when he was playin with some sorry ass people
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2886927
they asked kobe at the championship finals press conference if it would be a nightmare to guard D wade and Lebron if they end up on the same team? he responded with "what do you think" LOL.. he didnt want this to go down
lol your a moron, kobe didnt hand pick every teammate like lebron did with the cavs, lakers FO arnt push overs they know whats best. but the cavs FO and coaching staff are all lebronzes lil bitches.
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yes, but still doesn't change the fact- kobe wanted out of LA badly at one point. all lebron has to do is win.
All the networks are still gonna be all over his nuts, even though they hate him for pimping the media like that doing the 1 hour special.
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lol at the lebron dicc succers on here again, lebron left his squad to go play in WADE COUNTY! yet y'all call kobe robin hahahahahahahahahaha, kobe never played robin it was superman and batman, lebron is a talented bitch with bitch ways it's that simple,alot of you on here can relate yell
If you understand the game of Basketball, Kobe was without a doubt Robin on the three peat Lakers. Shaq was the "most dominant" player in the game according to most, and EVERY Laker fan back then. There is no way you can have the "most dominant" player in the game as your bigman, and have him NOT be the focal point of your team. Shaq was the one drawing double and triple teams...not Kobe. Thats not the way an offense works. The ball goes to Shaq, he either scores quickly...or allows the double team to come, opening up the floor for outside shooters...or Kobe slashing to the hoop. Kobe was the benificiary of Shaq. Of course having Kobe, helped Shaq too. But the only people who really seem to question Kobe being the #2 on those teams, are current Laker fans who changed their tune about Shaq the minute he wasnt a Laker lol.
you're either a total idiot or you simply didn't watch most of the Laker threepeat games...Kobe was just as vital to those teams as Shaq. Yes, Kobe did draw double-teams back in those days, genius, and though Shaq was demanding and refused to play if the offense didn't run through him, Kobe held his own and was never considered "Robin"...The "Superman" and "Batman" analogy by BOX5 was dead on. While Shaq was considered the most dominant player during the threepeat era, Kobe was considered the greatest individual talent in the game, he was breaking records left and right on a team where he wasn't the focal point of the offense, and was being hailed by most as Michael Jordan's clear-cut successor. I dunno what your agenda against Kobe is...maybe it's the fact that without Kobe, Spurs would've been the team of the decade...but you clearly have something against the guy, and you don't do very much to disguise it. LOL.