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Title: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: woof on July 14, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
Uncut Snoop Dogg Approved USDA Remastered edition

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Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: JohnnyL on July 14, 2010, 11:40:45 AM
 If there was unreleased material on this, I would consider buying it as it was one of his better albums.  But I don't really need another copy of the exact same album.  Wonder if "No Limit Top Dogg" will be getting a similar re-release.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: EFFeX on July 14, 2010, 11:40:56 AM
He should remaster No Limit Top Dogg
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Matty on July 14, 2010, 12:35:54 PM
the original is mastered fine, this sounded worse (just overly boosted) to me.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Stan on July 14, 2010, 12:36:30 PM
Uncut Snoop Dogg Approved USDA Remastered edition

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How much different does this actually sound though?  Remastering is a sonic thing, this is probably unnecessary and just marketing hoopla.  Does it have unreleased tracks?  
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: StevenQBosell on July 14, 2010, 12:44:28 PM
the original is mastered fine, this sounded worse (just overly boosted) to me.

that's exactly what I was thinking...
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Sir Petey on July 14, 2010, 09:26:28 PM
this is one of the only digitally remastered rap albums ive ever heard and could actually notice the difference.

the basslines hits harder the drums are more elaborate sounding.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 14, 2010, 10:17:23 PM
the original is mastered fine, this sounded worse (just overly boosted) to me.

As is the case for most "digitally remastered" albums.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on July 14, 2010, 10:36:35 PM
Its not worth it if it doesnt have that ``source lab keep it pimpin tho`` track, i wouldve brought it 4 that alone.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: J$crILLa on July 14, 2010, 10:43:05 PM
i dont buy re-mastered albums, nothin wrong wit tha original
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: doggfather on July 14, 2010, 11:11:50 PM
i dont buy re-mastered albums, nothin wrong wit tha original

+1

If somebody a collecta allwasy want to buy the first press.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on July 14, 2010, 11:52:24 PM
can someone host one of the mp3's on zshare, this was one of my fav Snoop Albums. I could listen to everything except for that "I cant swim" song
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Smackdog on July 15, 2010, 11:46:13 PM
This has got to be the big doggs best album......this is great news that he is going to give more people a chance to listen to it and improved the sound quality.........Cheers to the big dogg and Hopefully this will get promoted proper and more people will recognize the real......straight up g funk golden era mastery from the Big Dogg mr. doggy dogg himself


wesst west yall.......
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Gamestarr on July 16, 2010, 05:31:58 PM
can someone host one of the mp3's on zshare, this was one of my fav Snoop Albums. I could listen to everything except for that "I cant swim" song

yup.. album is fuckin amazing.. and then all of a sudden I Cant Swim comes on... the fuck?
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on July 16, 2010, 09:51:52 PM
can someone host one of the mp3's on zshare, this was one of my fav Snoop Albums. I could listen to everything except for that "I cant swim" song

yup.. album is fuckin amazing.. and then all of a sudden I Cant Swim comes on... the fuck?
lol i checked this, its the exact same as my 320kbps rip
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: shoo on July 17, 2010, 02:28:42 AM
the original is mastered fine, this sounded worse (just overly boosted) to me.

no wonder. mastering this days is fucked up. i can hear it on almost every single song. It's all due to the loudness war. They're making tracks as loud as possible then they're using compressors to avoid distortions. what we hear as a final product is pumping bassdrums and basslines with some highs. I'm not afraid to say that people who are mastering songs nowadays deprive us of at least 50% of sound of the original unmastered song. For people who have no music taste or at least ear to the music this situation seems ok...they can bump this shit in their car and feel delighted hearing it and thinking how fucking monstrous the bassdrum is... but music is not all about the fucking bassline. it's also about dynamic range and subtlety which we're missing due to the whack mastering and loudness war
 
here's an example of the differncies between early 90s mastering and early 2000 mastering. this is the same song ... now think how it would look if it was mastered in 2010, the sound would be flat as fuck.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/GiveItAwayLoudnessComparison.png/380px-GiveItAwayLoudnessComparison.png)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war



so if you have a real ear to the music AVOID REMASTERED ALBUMS.
 (Of course there are exceptions... f.e. originaly recorded in 70s album should sound better if remastered in 90s)
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: bullet_wrongkind on July 17, 2010, 03:46:25 AM
the original is mastered fine, this sounded worse (just overly boosted) to me.

no wonder. mastering this days is fucked up. i can hear it on almost every single song. It's all due to the loudness war. They're making tracks as loud as possible then they're using compressors to avoid distortions. what we hear as a final product is pumping bassdrums and basslines with some highs. I'm not afraid to say that people who are mastering songs nowadays deprive us of at least 50% of sound of the original unmastered song. For people who have no music taste or at least ear to the music this situation seems ok...they can bump this shit in their car and feel delighted hearing it and thinking how fucking monstrous the bassdrum is... but music is not all about the fucking bassline. it's also about dynamic range and subtlety which we're missing due to the whack mastering and loudness war
 
here's an example of the differncies between early 90s mastering and early 2000 mastering. this is the same song ... now think how it would look if it was mastered in 2010, the sound would be flat as fuck.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/GiveItAwayLoudnessComparison.png/380px-GiveItAwayLoudnessComparison.png)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war



so if you have a real ear to the music AVOID REMASTERED ALBUMS.
 (Of course there are exceptions... f.e. originaly recorded in 70s album should sound better if remastered in 90s)

yup. can hear it clearly in my headphones.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: yates on July 17, 2010, 04:16:25 AM
Yup, digital remastering in many cases just means they compressed and limited it to fuck resulting in it sounding artificially louder. Just turn up the volume on the original.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: shoo on July 17, 2010, 05:26:29 AM
Yup, digital remastering in many cases just means they compressed and limited it to fuck resulting in it sounding artificially louder. Just turn up the volume on the original.

that's right. Loundess War is a joke in view of the fact that every audio player has its volume controller. In my opinion it's the biggest absurd in the history of the whole pop music industry.

 btw. i wonder how "I Rep That West" would sound if it wasn't so heavily compressed. I like that song but this compression is driving me crazy.

Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: JohnnyL on July 17, 2010, 09:50:02 AM
 Anyone else think it's kind of funny that Snoop is approving his own album?  Kinda goes without saying, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Sir Petey on July 17, 2010, 09:05:51 PM
not when wide awake is dropping snoop albums and shit its really not.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 17, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
i dont buy re-mastered albums, nothin wrong wit tha original

only reason i buy a remaster is if it comes with a bonus DVD  8)
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on July 18, 2010, 07:18:58 AM
Rerelease it wit the leftovers/unreleased traxx
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Matty on July 18, 2010, 07:48:31 AM
some remasters are good or worthwhile (the illmatic one for example), but it isn't like this is an old album with an out of date sounding master or anything. the original is perfect. the drums sound louder/clearer on this one, but so is everything. to me it sounds too loud to the extent of the sound being unbalanced.

edit - done a close comparison of the waveforms...there is hardly any difference in the actual volume but this release is ever so slightly louder. sounds like the higher frequencies were boosted more than the rest and compressed again to make the drums sound more present. so, while the original was already LOUD, this is even louder and has been fiddled with somewhat. entirely unnecessary.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: YSH on July 18, 2010, 08:02:06 AM
WHY THE FUCK U NEED THIS REMASTERED???? REMASTER COOLIO;S FIRST 3 ALBUM
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Sir Petey on July 18, 2010, 06:50:08 PM
lmfao

can o corn was my shit.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 18, 2010, 07:02:33 PM
Yup, digital remastering in many cases just means they compressed and limited it to fuck resulting in it sounding artificially louder. Just turn up the volume on the original.

This.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 18, 2010, 07:03:56 PM
some remasters are good or worthwhile (the illmatic one for example), but it isn't like this is an old album with an out of date sounding master or anything. the original is perfect. the drums sound louder/clearer on this one, but so is everything. to me it sounds too loud to the extent of the sound being unbalanced.

edit - done a close comparison of the waveforms...there is hardly any difference in the actual volume but this release is ever so slightly louder. sounds like the higher frequencies were boosted more than the rest and compressed again to make the drums sound more present. so, while the original was already LOUD, this is even louder and has been fiddled with somewhat. entirely unnecessary.

I think I liked the Ready to Die Remastered version too..
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: RedMagic213 on July 19, 2010, 12:59:45 AM
i dont buy re-mastered albums, nothin wrong wit tha original

+1

If somebody a collecta allwasy want to buy the first press.

+1

Sometime the original is better...they sometimes fuckup the remastering
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Dre-Day on July 25, 2010, 11:06:52 AM
some remasters are good or worthwhile (the illmatic one for example), but it isn't like this is an old album with an out of date sounding master or anything. the original is perfect. the drums sound louder/clearer on this one, but so is everything. to me it sounds too loud to the extent of the sound being unbalanced.

edit - done a close comparison of the waveforms...there is hardly any difference in the actual volume but this release is ever so slightly louder. sounds like the higher frequencies were boosted more than the rest and compressed again to make the drums sound more present. so, while the original was already LOUD, this is even louder and has been fiddled with somewhat. entirely unnecessary.
yeah but you also have a soundcard with the x-fi crystalizer function
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Sir Petey on July 25, 2010, 11:25:37 AM
quality whores.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Matty on July 25, 2010, 11:33:53 AM
some remasters are good or worthwhile (the illmatic one for example), but it isn't like this is an old album with an out of date sounding master or anything. the original is perfect. the drums sound louder/clearer on this one, but so is everything. to me it sounds too loud to the extent of the sound being unbalanced.

edit - done a close comparison of the waveforms...there is hardly any difference in the actual volume but this release is ever so slightly louder. sounds like the higher frequencies were boosted more than the rest and compressed again to make the drums sound more present. so, while the original was already LOUD, this is even louder and has been fiddled with somewhat. entirely unnecessary.
yeah but you also have a soundcard with the x-fi crystalizer function

i have all that shit turned off. plus, if i'm listening to music i'll use audio creation mode and 'bit-matched playback' which disables all EQ and stops resampling (PC soundcards without a mode like this always resample to 48khz). makes a significant difference to sound quality. foobar2000 with ASIO output :banana:
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: MarshColin on July 25, 2010, 06:30:39 PM
WHY THE FUCK U NEED THIS REMASTERED???? REMASTER COOLIO;S FIRST 3 ALBUM

Lol funny you say this and I def agree. Fantastic Voyage (the song) sounds like complete ass. I can't even spin the song because when you are playing it next to other songs with proper mastering and mixing it just sounds bad and is very noticeable in a club situation. It's too bad because that's one of my all time favorite songs.
Title: Re: Snoop approves Tha Last Meal Remastered
Post by: Dre-Day on July 26, 2010, 02:32:08 AM
some remasters are good or worthwhile (the illmatic one for example), but it isn't like this is an old album with an out of date sounding master or anything. the original is perfect. the drums sound louder/clearer on this one, but so is everything. to me it sounds too loud to the extent of the sound being unbalanced.

edit - done a close comparison of the waveforms...there is hardly any difference in the actual volume but this release is ever so slightly louder. sounds like the higher frequencies were boosted more than the rest and compressed again to make the drums sound more present. so, while the original was already LOUD, this is even louder and has been fiddled with somewhat. entirely unnecessary.
yeah but you also have a soundcard with the x-fi crystalizer function

i have all that shit turned off. plus, if i'm listening to music i'll use audio creation mode and 'bit-matched playback' which disables all EQ and stops resampling (PC soundcards without a mode like this always resample to 48khz). makes a significant difference to sound quality. foobar2000 with ASIO output :banana:
hehe you're crazy