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Title: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: titoveli on August 25, 2010, 04:29:38 PM
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Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: papa-smurf on August 25, 2010, 05:57:44 PM
lmao.i swear 2 god,when kith murry first said that.i said fatal gonna get at this nigga,because fatal is on enigga that really smash 4 pac and fatal a real street nigga.fatal not about 2 let nobody say shit about pac.thats why fatal my nigga.he really smash 4 pac
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: NewYork Pope on August 25, 2010, 06:26:37 PM
Keith Murray never said he beat up Pac. He simply said she “fought Pac”. The internet saying he beat up Pac, but he didn’t say that.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 25, 2010, 07:07:04 PM
Keith Murray never said he beat up Pac. He simply said she “fought Pac”. The internet saying he beat up Pac, but he didn’t say that.

keith murray got a sex change??
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 25, 2010, 08:32:28 PM
Murray put it on his moms tho...lol
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: papa-smurf on August 25, 2010, 09:34:56 PM
he put it on his moms that he hit dame dash.he just said he squared off with pac.but the way he was saying it was like he was on some gangsta shit aginst pac,thats how i knew fatal was gonna get at him 4 that,i dont know baout themother outlawz.but i know fatal a smash anybody that disrespect pac in any kind of way.fatal a real streat dude 4 real.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 25, 2010, 10:11:56 PM
fatal is on enigga that really smash 4 pac and fatal a real street nigga.fatal not about 2 let nobody say shit about pac.thats why fatal my nigga.he really smash 4 pac

Very true. Hussein was the best Outlaw and he's the only one who seems to ride for Pac.

As far as what Keith Murry said...dude did look like a crackhead in the video. But I don't think they actually fought. I remember Fredo Starr did one of his "Tales Of the Industry" videos a while back and spoke on that night at the House of Blues. He' said they ALMOST got into a fought but Redman broke it up and after that they all got faded together and that was that.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: LONDON!! on August 25, 2010, 11:55:43 PM
if you watch the video, keith said they squared up to each other, they didn't scuff(fight) or nuthin, they squared up to each other

this just confirmed what was heard at the time, during that east/west stuff that pac and death row approached death squad at a show in la, i thought it was just rumours

but fredro broke it down too, he said the same thing, that pac approached them and keith and him squared up but it got squashed and they blazed that peace pipe together on the same night if you get what i'm saying

big up pac and keith murray and the outlawz and its all about this money, rip to pac and big
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: V2DHeart on August 26, 2010, 01:19:24 AM
Fatal always stands up for 2Pac, and would have probably helped out a great deal more in Sept 7th Las Vegas, unlike those other weaker Outlawz. I can remember them making peace with Mobb Deep despite them disrespecting 2Pac after his death, plus other things which is why K9 dissed them by saying "Makaveli riders scared to ride" on the Too Gangsta 4 Radio compilation
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: J$crILLa on August 26, 2010, 01:41:36 AM
crazy shit
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: YoungCrookedI on August 26, 2010, 05:20:14 AM
i saw this video from this crackhead murray and im glad to see that fatal wanna bust his fuckin head, FATAL IS THE REAL AND THE BEST NIGGA FROM THE OUTLAWZ IN MY PERSOANAL OPION.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 26, 2010, 05:45:54 AM
If fatal was always "tha realest" outta the outlawz how come pac didnt say no different bout other members?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: YoungCrookedI on August 26, 2010, 06:02:19 AM
If fatal was always "tha realest" outta the outlawz how come pac didnt say no different bout other members?

see that´s the point why you pop up pac´s name in here okay this thread is about pac but fatal is still against mobb depp,badboy etc. not like the other members!
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: V2DHeart on August 26, 2010, 07:24:38 AM
Have to agree. Fatal is the only one who hasn't used 2Pac to an excess like the other Outlawz. Not only do/did the other Outlawz use 2Pac/Makaveli in every single song they ever done, but they re-cycled verses of his, images, tour titles under his alias, and all sorts. It goes beyond "dedication" and "riding". It's simply called "milking"
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 26, 2010, 07:49:58 AM
This what i never got bout the whole outlawz thing....then y were they supported 4 so many years? I mean didnt pac co sign em...all of a sudden they are pacs enemies cuz they ride his name? And if murray is tellin the truth, y should fatal b mad if all thats bein told is the truth?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: YoungCrookedI on August 26, 2010, 07:58:54 AM
This what i never got bout the whole outlawz thing....then y were they supported 4 so many years? I mean didnt pac co sign em...all of a sudden they are pacs enemies cuz they ride his name? And if murray is tellin the truth, y should fatal b mad if all thats bein told is the truth?

dude your a funny did you know that? comon man, if keith would fight with pac did the whole crowd,Deathrow records artists,bodyguards etc. would jump on that crackhead? so how can he tell the truth??? watch this video and look at his face, he´s a crackhead.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 26, 2010, 08:51:08 AM
Not sayin pac right or murray right...but if redman was there...would redman lie 2 go agaisnt pac?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: m-b on August 26, 2010, 09:17:40 AM
Didn't Fatal take 2Pac's All Eyez On Me Chain and sell it?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: Blood$ on August 26, 2010, 09:47:38 AM
i saw this video from this crackhead murray and im glad to see that fatal wanna bust his fuckin head, FATAL IS THE REAL AND THE BEST NIGGA FROM THE OUTLAWZ IN MY PERSOANAL OPION.

don't say "nigga", you're a cracker saltine
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on August 26, 2010, 10:31:07 AM
i saw this video from this crackhead murray and im glad to see that fatal wanna bust his fuckin head, FATAL IS THE REAL AND THE BEST NIGGA FROM THE OUTLAWZ IN MY PERSOANAL OPION.

keith murray aint got shit on pac, dude is just babblin some shit. I always liked Fatal, Everyday was such a great song...

you ferhat homie, im not frontin but you misspelled PERSONAL, its not "PERSO-ANAL" ;D
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on August 26, 2010, 10:55:50 AM
if you watch the video, keith said they squared up to each other, they didn't scuff(fight) or nuthin, they squared up to each other

this just confirmed what was heard at the time, during that east/west stuff that pac and death row approached death squad at a show in la, i thought it was just rumours

but fredro broke it down too, he said the same thing, that pac approached them and keith and him squared up but it got squashed and they blazed that peace pipe together on the same night if you get what i'm saying

big up pac and keith murray and the outlawz and its all about this money, rip to pac and big
It's DEF SQUAD, not "death squad."

Fatal always stands up for 2Pac, and would have probably helped out a great deal more in Sept 7th Las Vegas, unlike those other weaker Outlawz. I can remember them making peace with Mobb Deep despite them disrespecting 2Pac after his death, plus other things which is why K9 dissed them by saying "Makaveli riders scared to ride" on the Too Gangsta 4 Radio compilation
Obviously it's easier said than done, but Fatal has gone on record that had he been in Vegas, things would've been much different.  He would've known that it should have been someone else to have run up on Orlando Anderson (rather than pac himself), and even if it had still happened the way it did, he would've at least been in the car with Pac or at least shot back at the Cadillac.  I don't doubt that Fatal would've reacted, especially since he was notorious for always carrying guns no matter where they went.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: 2dog on August 26, 2010, 12:10:15 PM
Murray a real Dude.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 26, 2010, 12:24:02 PM
Where was fatal "that night" and how come he wasnt there wit pac?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: Stashh on August 26, 2010, 12:54:22 PM
Murray worked with Pac didn't he?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: LONDON!! on August 26, 2010, 01:43:26 PM
if you watch the video, keith said they squared up to each other, they didn't scuff(fight) or nuthin, they squared up to each other

this just confirmed what was heard at the time, during that east/west stuff that pac and death row approached death squad at a show in la, i thought it was just rumours

but fredro broke it down too, he said the same thing, that pac approached them and keith and him squared up but it got squashed and they blazed that peace pipe together on the same night if you get what i'm saying

big up pac and keith murray and the outlawz and its all about this money, rip to pac and big
It's DEF SQUAD, not "death squad."


ha ha, yeah i'm buzzing, i meant def squad
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: YoungCrookedI on August 26, 2010, 01:46:13 PM
i saw this video from this crackhead murray and im glad to see that fatal wanna bust his fuckin head, FATAL IS THE REAL AND THE BEST NIGGA FROM THE OUTLAWZ IN MY PERSOANAL OPION.

keith murray aint got shit on pac, dude is just babblin some shit. I always liked Fatal, Everyday was such a great song...

you ferhat homie, im not frontin but you misspelled PERSONAL, its not "PERSO-ANAL" ;D


hahahaha homie this is my slang, cause opion´s like asshole´s...ya dig?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: V2DHeart on August 26, 2010, 01:50:42 PM
Murray worked with Pac didn't he?

Fatal took crashed one of his vehicles and p*ssed off 2Pac, so he sent him home for a bit for 2Pac to cool down, it was either that or Death Row affiliated 2Pac d!ck riders jumping him once they heard about it, so I guess 2Pac sent him home for both reasons
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: kuruptDPG on August 26, 2010, 02:04:51 PM
Murray worked with Pac didn't he?

yep on Representin For Ron G 94, great track...love the beat..i liked murrays verse on there
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on August 26, 2010, 03:08:33 PM
Where was fatal "that night" and how come he wasnt there wit pac?
Are you talking about when Pac got shot in Vegas?  Fatal had a court date in New Jersey, but he had stated before that if he had known that they were going to Vegas for the Tyson fight, he would've just skipped his court hearing.

Murray worked with Pac didn't he?
Fatal took crashed one of his vehicles and p*ssed off 2Pac, so he sent him home for a bit for 2Pac to cool down, it was either that or Death Row affiliated 2Pac d!ck riders jumping him once they heard about it, so I guess 2Pac sent him home for both reasons
Not exactly.  Fatal wanted to use Pac's Landcruiser, and Pac said no, but Fatal took it anyway and crashed it that night.  The story (first perpetuated by Frank Alexander) was that Pac sent Fatal back to New Jersey, but Fatal later clarified in an interview that that wasn't the case and that he himself left because he wasn't sure what would happen to him, saying that Pac would've had some people from his crew jump him to discipline him for not following directions (and crashing his car as a result, which cost Pac somewhere around $9,000 in repairs from what I remember).  He refuted Frank's recollection, saying how it was "some clown man shit" if all Pac did to punish Fatal was to send him home for the damage he had done.  Supposedly Pac was going to just let him stay, but Suge (being the head of the mob-type environment that they were all a part of) told Pac to fly Fatal back to California so they could discipline him.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 26, 2010, 04:21:45 PM
Damn sounds like fatal was pacs bitch and he still ridin 4 him? Has fatal spoke on other outlaw members ever?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on August 26, 2010, 04:59:58 PM
Damn sounds like fatal was pacs bitch and he still ridin 4 him? Has fatal spoke on other outlaw members ever?
Fatal wasn't Pac's bitch, Pac was just the leader of the crew.  Fatal had made it very clear in interviews that their job as the Outlawz was to back Pac up in any circumstance, whether a physical confrontation or on wax.  He has a very clear understanding of the street mentality and accepted the role, and getting disciplined if you mess up comes with the territory, but it doesn't make you a bitch.  Think of how when you played in team sports back in the day, you were going to either run laps or something that wasn't going to be fun if you screwed up during practice.

Regarding the other members, Fatal is on good terms with them, but there were a few times, particularly when he was locked up, when he didn't have the best things to say about them.  While he did back them up because they were part of the same crew, he expressed A LOT of dissatisfaction with how the Outlawz handled the Vegas situation, stating that they weren't around Pac when he had stepped to Orlando, and how they weren't really trying to protect him after the squabble and also how they didn't even chase the car that shot at Suge and Pac.  Obviously the Outlawz weren't happy about Fatal saying that (even though it was true), and of course they put out that song "Loyalty" (on their Novakane album), but they later patched things up once Fatal got released.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on August 26, 2010, 05:06:24 PM
he put it on his moms that he hit dame dash.he just said he squared off with pac.but the way he was saying it was like he was on some gangsta shit aginst pac,thats how i knew fatal was gonna get at him 4 that,i dont know baout themother outlawz.but i know fatal a smash anybody that disrespect pac in any kind of way.fatal a real streat dude 4 real.
^^^^^^^stannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, keith known to put hands on equals,but since he don't present himself as a gangsta PEOPLE ON HERE DON'T THINK HE'LL GET DOWN lol yell
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 26, 2010, 08:51:13 PM
both of you need to learn english quick
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 27, 2010, 06:28:48 AM
Lol but nah good lookin 4 goin nto detail on that....now that u brought it up...whats ur theory as 2 y orlando got at pac? Or if u dont mind give ur input on how everythin started and ended? Include biggie if need be...haha
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on August 27, 2010, 08:12:18 AM
Lol but nah good lookin 4 goin nto detail on that....now that u brought it up...whats ur theory as 2 y orlando got at pac? Or if u dont mind give ur input on how everythin started and ended? Include biggie if need be...haha
It's not really complicated.  You already know why.  Pac snuffed him at the MGM, and Orlando (and his crew) could do nothing else BUT retaliate with a vengeance.  While Pac was indeed a celebrity, one who rolled with a lot of known Compton Pirus, he wasn't untouchable on a street level, while Orlando himself wasn't untouchable either but he was a ranking gang member who had pull, even at 22.  Yes, it was ballsy for him to step to Orlando (which definitely earned him some points with Suge's entourage), but it wasn't smart.  In an interview before, Fatal made it clear that that was why Pac got killed, and he understood why, once saying that if it were him who got stomped out like Orlando, he would've done the exact same thing, even if it were "Bill Gates," as he said.

But the reason why Pac stepped to him wasn't solely some Piru-related beef for him snatching Travon's chain at the Lakewood Mall a few months prior.  It was still partially Death Row-related in the sense that the rumors circulating were that Puffy (who was known to hire South Side Compton Crips to provide security for Bad Boy when in California) was the one behind the $10,000 bounty on Death Row chains, which was supposedly the main reason why Orlando snatched the chain in the first place (aside from not being happy with all of the Death Row-affiliated Compton Pirus paid by Suge flaunting their toys).
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on August 28, 2010, 12:57:44 AM
This what i never got bout the whole outlawz thing....then y were they supported 4 so many years? I mean didnt pac co sign em...all of a sudden they are pacs enemies cuz they ride his name? And if murray is tellin the truth, y should fatal b mad if all thats bein told is the truth?

dude your a funny did you know that? comon man, if keith would fight with pac did the whole crowd,Deathrow records artists,bodyguards etc. would jump on that crackhead? so how can he tell the truth??? watch this video and look at his face, he´s a crackhead.

your views are so biased its unreal lol

why do people continue to speculate about a fight that may or may not have happened 15 years ago or whatever...move on people!!
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: Blood$ on August 28, 2010, 09:57:08 AM
This what i never got bout the whole outlawz thing....then y were they supported 4 so many years? I mean didnt pac co sign em...all of a sudden they are pacs enemies cuz they ride his name? And if murray is tellin the truth, y should fatal b mad if all thats bein told is the truth?

dude your a funny did you know that? comon man, if keith would fight with pac did the whole crowd,Deathrow records artists,bodyguards etc. would jump on that crackhead? so how can he tell the truth??? watch this video and look at his face, he´s a crackhead.

your views are so biased its unreal lol

why do people continue to speculate about a fight that may or may not have happened 15 years ago or whatever...move on people!!

and he's the one calling Keith Murray a crackhead... I think he needs to look in the mirror and understand the true definition of that that is exactly
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: BiggSadot on September 03, 2010, 09:14:55 AM
That nigga Fatal is from Montclair. He aint no street dude. Montclair is the suburbs.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal Going At Keith Murray For Saying He Beat Up 2pac
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on September 03, 2010, 09:18:15 AM
He claims otherwise