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Title: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: Elano on October 18, 2010, 10:36:29 PM
It’s not like Ice Cube has anything to prove at this point in his illustrious career, but the L.A. rap vet is still putting in work. In May, Cube celebrated the 20-year anniversary of his solo debut album AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted and this past September he released his ninth studio LP, I Am the West.

This latest project is much different from 2008’s Raw Footage. For starters, the gangsta rap pioneer reconnected with producer Sir Jinx, whose work was integral to Cube’s early works. While the Don Mega is going back to his roots, he still has some new tricks up his sleeve, as well as showcasing his sons OMG and Doughboy (who also appeared on Raw Footage) on the album. XXLMag.com got up with Cube to discuss his return to rap, past beef with Common and thoughts on the new West rookies.

XXLMag.com: What was your approach coming into this album?

Ice Cube: I just kind of took it back to doing what I feel and not reaching and it’s just a good West Coast record.

Do you feel that artist have been running away from the West Coast sound?

Well, you know, I ain’t gonna say running away, that might be the wrong words to use, but just saying kinda getting away from what we do best. Like, just tryna follow the industry. The industry got us out here on an island; we out here and we don’t get no light or very little [light]. So artists have been tryna figure out what we need to do to get that light.  And I feel like with this record, we don’t need to do nothin’, we do what we do, have fun with it. Do a record that fans would enjoy and kinda leave it at that and let the chips fall where they may.

Is that part of the reason you linked up with Sir Jinx on this album? You haven’t worked with him in a while.

That ain’t really why, I mean, every producer that I work with is always welcome to be on [my] records, it’s just if what they doin’ fit with what I’m doin’. I get a lot of dope beats, but if they don’t fit what I’m doin’ then I don’t use them. I’m an artist that goes off of feelin’.

How did you feel about your sons OMG and Doughboy getting into rap?

Well, they had always done it for fun, and as they got older they started going to the studio and so I started letting them go to the studio and they would go in there by themselves and come out with mixtapes. It just got better and better and better to the point where I think they’re hot. They ain’t just good, they’re hot. So, I put them on this record. And the record, the one [that] I got them on don’t even really show they’re skills, so I’m putting together a mixtape for them so people can see that they got flow.

When do you expect that mixtape to come out?

I don’t know. I’m not gonna put no date on it. We gonna put it out when it’s right. That’s what’s cool about being independent, you don’t have to lock yourself in or nothing.

What’s your writing process like for music?

[Long pause]. You know, by now it varies, you know by now I got different styles to write but I let the music… if I like the music, I don’t force my lyrics on top of it, I got to let the lyrics come. It’s just a more comfortable way to work. When you’re independent you’re not spending any of people’s money so you don’t have their pressure or their expectations on top of you. All you got is your expectations of yourself and it’s funner. [I’m] having more fun doing records than I did pretty much all through the ’90’s.

It seems your music is getting more political again, do you think that it’s because you’re totally independent you can say more and you don’t have pressures from labels to make a certain kind of record?

It varies now because I did my most political records on labels. But you know Raw Footage was a political record because it was a political year. Nobody knew what the outcome of the presidential election [would be] when I did that record, so it was a lot of tension in the air. But with this record, to me, it’s just a fun record, it ain’t really highly political. It’s just some West Coast gangsta shit.

Right, but “Drink the Kool-Aid” has such strong social messages.

Yeah, I mean, that’s the ones that [are] they own… When I do hit it, I hit it hard so it’s kinda like it’s whatever your flavor is, whatever you lean towards that’s what you will pick out of my records. If you’re a person that really likes a lot of street knowledge and a lot of game in the records then you’ll lean towards the records. In all [my] records there’s a little game in all of them, I think. It really matters what your flavor is, but [I was] making a whole album [and] I wasn’t leaning towards a whole political feel like some of my records are. This record to me is just a little more fun.

Earlier in the year you had a little controversy about people being mad ’cause you weren’t working with the young cats and certain people were feeling like, you need to put more younger cats on. How do you feel about that?

I mean, it’s my record, I’ma do how I feel it. If I start just letting people tell me how to do music then I might as well get the music from them. [Laughs]. I just think when an artist sits down to do what he do, he can’t take too many opinions. You should at some point know what you want to do and do it and believe in whatever outcome. People don’t like the record, I could live with that, but I couldn’t live with me not liking the record.

Are there any young West Coast artists that you’re feeling out there that you listen to personally?

I ain’t been listening to nobody only because I been working on the record for a year. I don’t want to listen to nobody when I’m working on a record ’cause then your music start to sound like the people you listening to. I just kind of take myself off of music while I’m working on music, but to me ain’t nobody hotter than OMG [and] Doughboy.

The other day I was reading a story where Common was talking about how y’all squashed your beef…

That was a long time ago. Somebody asked me about it a while ago so he might be commenting on what I said, but you know it was a big misunderstanding it wasn’t even really no beef. I just misinterpreted one of his records, I spoke on it, he spoke back, [we] squashed it. So I didn’t need to say nothin’ else and that was just the end of it and we been cool ever since. You know it ain’t no beefs going on [now that] people wanna talk about [Laughs]. At the end of the day people wanna talk about shit.

So, what’s next for Cube?

You know, I’m gonna keep it moving start on my next record, it don’t stop. I ain’t got nothing to say either they are going to love it or like it or hate it. [Laughs]. There’s only three ways to go. —Brooklyne Gipson
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: awol22222 on October 18, 2010, 10:49:44 PM
His 90s records are better than his new ones  :(
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: MrJas on October 18, 2010, 10:52:51 PM
His 90s records are better than his new ones  :(
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: doggfather on October 18, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
2010 ain't poltical year?! WTF?!

Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: papa-smurf on October 19, 2010, 12:58:43 AM
Its funny becuz i was just listening 2 cube old records today and i was thinking like damn.cube use 2 be more agressive.and on the westside connection album he was killing it.but hey,cube been around since the 80's and still sounds good.what other rapper cant say that.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: J$crILLa on October 19, 2010, 01:35:03 AM
he still doin it big! nice read.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: Dre-Day on October 19, 2010, 03:05:50 AM
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I don’t want to listen to nobody when I’m working on a record ’cause then your music start to sound like the people you listening to.
and that's exactly what happened with this album
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: darqawa on October 19, 2010, 08:08:28 AM
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I don’t want to listen to nobody when I’m working on a record ’cause then your music start to sound like the people you listening to.
and that's exactly what happened with this album

TRUTH!  And the only westcoast cats that are hot are OMG and DOUGHBOY????  :o :o :o  I know they are his sons but DAMN, lets keep it some what believable.  They hot, hot garbage.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: Action! on October 19, 2010, 08:12:57 AM
my biggest issue is him claiming keep it west coast when he's got plenty of tracks that are southern
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: darqawa on October 19, 2010, 08:17:57 AM
my biggest issue is him claiming keep it west coast when he's got plenty of tracks that are southern

Right, I wanna hear all them other "dope" beats he got and didn't use. 
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: D-Nice on October 19, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
2010 ain't poltical year?! WTF?!



He is talking about the year Raw Footage came out.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: doggfather on October 19, 2010, 09:21:56 AM
okay, I understand it.

But not just that year IMO 2010 is a political year too.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: D-Nice on October 19, 2010, 09:36:42 AM
okay, I understand it.

But not just that year IMO 2010 is a political year too.

Well to be honest, a artist should not need a election year to have motivation to be political. The Predator was very socially and politically charged on its own. That was the genius of Cube, Death Certificate was almost prophesy to the riots before Predator even came out. He knew the pulse of his evironment and still does, just a shame he does not revisit it more often.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: Dre-Day on October 19, 2010, 09:39:18 AM
okay, I understand it.

But not just that year IMO 2010 is a political year too.

Well to be honest, a artist should not need a election year to have motivation to be political. The Predator was very socially and politically charged on its own. That was the genius of Cube, Death Certificate was almost prophesy to the riots before Predator even came out. He knew the pulse of his evironment and still does, just a shame he does not revisit it more often.
well, Paris is working on a new album
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: D-Nice on October 19, 2010, 09:44:50 AM
okay, I understand it.

But not just that year IMO 2010 is a political year too.

Well to be honest, a artist should not need a election year to have motivation to be political. The Predator was very socially and politically charged on its own. That was the genius of Cube, Death Certificate was almost prophesy to the riots before Predator even came out. He knew the pulse of his evironment and still does, just a shame he does not revisit it more often.
well, Paris is working on a new album

That is a perfect example. Paris does not "wait" on moments or dates to do political records. Especially in 2010, there are plenty opportunies and topics out there to tackle and it seems like less and less artists want to do it. Oh well.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: SAINTX111 on October 19, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
Too bad we're not having as much fun listening to his records as he is in making them.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: darqawa on October 19, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
okay, I understand it.

But not just that year IMO 2010 is a political year too.

Well to be honest, a artist should not need a election year to have motivation to be political. The Predator was very socially and politically charged on its own. That was the genius of Cube, Death Certificate was almost prophesy to the riots before Predator even came out. He knew the pulse of his evironment and still does, just a shame he does not revisit it more often.
well, Paris is working on a new album

Acid Reflex is the only album I have not heard.  Was it good?  I am looking for Guerrilla Funk Paris or Sonic Jihad at least.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: Dre-Day on October 19, 2010, 10:11:04 AM
okay, I understand it.

But not just that year IMO 2010 is a political year too.

Well to be honest, a artist should not need a election year to have motivation to be political. The Predator was very socially and politically charged on its own. That was the genius of Cube, Death Certificate was almost prophesy to the riots before Predator even came out. He knew the pulse of his evironment and still does, just a shame he does not revisit it more often.
well, Paris is working on a new album

That is a perfect example. Paris does not "wait" on moments or dates to do political records. Especially in 2010, there are plenty opportunies and topics out there to tackle and it seems like less and less artists want to do it. Oh well.
yeah there's enough to talk about.

okay, I understand it.

But not just that year IMO 2010 is a political year too.

Well to be honest, a artist should not need a election year to have motivation to be political. The Predator was very socially and politically charged on its own. That was the genius of Cube, Death Certificate was almost prophesy to the riots before Predator even came out. He knew the pulse of his evironment and still does, just a shame he does not revisit it more often.
well, Paris is working on a new album

Acid Reflex is the only album I have not heard.  Was it good?  I am looking for Guerrilla Funk Paris or Sonic Jihad at least.
yeah i think it's a good album. if you enjoyed the two albums you listed, then you probably won't be disappointed
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: Knett on October 19, 2010, 02:30:20 PM
this is exactly why Dre won't pick up the phone on these rappers no more. All that rappers wanna do is have fun.
Dre understand that you got to WORK to make some hot ass tracks. Rappers need to learn that.

Now I don't blame cube of shit, because he has earned his way to have a little fun.
But all I wanna say, is that the BET 2010 Cypher of Ice Cube was his hottest shit in 3 years. THAT was fun.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on October 19, 2010, 02:32:43 PM
Cube's music was also a lot better when he wasn't having as much fun
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on October 19, 2010, 02:52:43 PM
Cube's music was also a lot better when he wasn't having as much fun
Someone kidnap Cube, start treating him like it was slavery all over again & then let him record music.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: The Predator on October 19, 2010, 06:43:21 PM
Can Ice Cube recover from this fiasco of an album?

He wrote this album like it was one of his recent clumsy comedy movies.

As for the beats, talk about cheap.

Making embarassing movies and now embarrassing albums, his audience in humilation has left him in droves.

Next we hear from him in music will proabaly be rapping those recent terrible hooks of his on WC's Barricuda album.

The thing is, him, his ego and his yes-men dont understand how wack his skills on the mic-tip and ear for beats has become.

His rapping sons? He may as well let his wife, uncles and aunties all get on the mic.

He promised a return to incredible classic west coast hip-hop shit for our speakers with this record, but gave us a frisbee instead.

Maybe he's just not up to it no more but damn that jherri curled Cube used to be the best.







Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on October 19, 2010, 07:00:47 PM
Can Ice Cube recover from this fiasco of an album?

He wrote this album like it was one of his recent clumsy comedy movies.

As for the beats, talk about cheap.

Making embarassing movies and now embarrassing albums, his audience in humilation has left him in droves.

Next we hear from him in music will proabaly be rapping those recent terrible hooks of his on WC's Barricuda album.

The thing is, him, his ego and his yes-men dont understand how wack his skills on the mic-tip and ear for beats has become.

His rapping sons? He may as well let his wife, uncles and aunties all get on the mic.

He promised a return to incredible classic west coast hip-hop shit for our speakers with this record, but gave us a frisbee instead.

Maybe he's just not up to it no more but damn that jherri curled Cube used to be the best.








Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: BIGWORM on October 19, 2010, 07:45:08 PM
I wish he didn't have fun. This albums is a discrace to his collection...
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: 3rd Coast on October 19, 2010, 07:52:17 PM
this is exactly why Dre won't pick up the phone on these rappers no more. All that rappers wanna do is have fun.
Dre understand that you got to WORK to make some hot ass tracks. Rappers need to learn that.

Now I don't blame cube of shit, because he has earned his way to have a little fun.
But all I wanna say, is that the BET 2010 Cypher of Ice Cube was his hottest shit in 3 years. THAT was fun.

so he hits the studio wit jim jons n camron..who have more fun than any niggas in the game
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on October 19, 2010, 08:08:14 PM
I wish he didn't have fun. This albums is a discrace to his collection...
disgrace

but yes
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: The King on October 19, 2010, 10:21:34 PM
Cube's new albums are better then almost any westcoast rapper who was making music in the 90's. Kurupt, Daz, Warren G, SNOOP, etc etc etc. are putting out shit in comparison.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: Knett on October 20, 2010, 10:52:25 AM
this is exactly why crap music is tolerated. If a rapper releases a wack album which is not as wack as the rest of the wack shit out, he's considered to have released a classic.
Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: sav-man on October 21, 2010, 12:10:37 AM
I wish he didn't have fun. This albums is a discrace to his collection...

I wouldn't say it's a "disgrace" per se...the main problem w/ I Am The West is that the sub-par tracks are so below average (for Cube) that they take away from the overall enjoyment of the CD. If you listen to them individually, Life in California, Too West Coast, I Rep That West, Drink the Kool-Aide, No Country For Young Men, Hood Robbin' and Your Money or Your Life are all great cuts, IMHO. Soul on Ice and Y'All Know How I Am are both just OK, but if Cube had to have a couple of "short verse" songs on the CD, they're cool in that regard, so I don't skip them. Fat Cat would have been better if it had more verses and less chorus-chanting--Cube's fast flow on the second verse is actually pretty cool, to me anyway,and if he'd written one more verse flowing real fast like that (or made the second verse longer), the song would be more effective, even with the southern-ish beat and all. Nothin' Like LA is a little skimpy lyrically on the first verse, but the other two verses work, and the G-Funk-ish, Warren G-like vibe makes it a decent cut.
She Couldn't Make It On Her Own, Urbanian, , It Is What It Is and All Day, Everyday are the sore points for me. They're just so below-average lyrically and production-wise that if I don't skip them, I basically can't enjoy the rest of the CD. These are the songs I would have left off if I were Cube--I would have substituted Pros Vs. Joes (a fun, catchy song, IMHO), Man Vs. Machine and maybe put one or two more West Coast-ish sounding tracks in their place. Just my opinon, though, and everyone's entitled to theirs' as well.


Title: Re: Ice Cube: “Havin’ More Fun Doing Records Than I Did in the 90’s.”
Post by: darqawa on October 21, 2010, 09:44:35 AM
this is exactly why crap music is tolerated. If a rapper releases a wack album which is not as wack as the rest of the wack shit out, he's considered to have released a classic.

ONE HUNNED!  8)